WASTREL Posted April 17 Posted April 17 8 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Yeah I was wondering that too, even if JTA did the Panamanian league, he still has less than half of the 3000 minutes. I feel sure Its that very reason Hearts Academy are getting the Youth Players building up the playing minutes to enable JTA assessment
johnking123 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 (edited) 23 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Yeah I was wondering that too, even if JTA did the Panamanian league, he still has less than half of the 3000 minutes. Probably find he has played a lot more that these sites say. Edited April 17 by johnking123
HMFC01 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 He's played 2100 minutes , 2 leagues and international matches. Is he even a rumour though or just a random name.
jamboinglasgow Posted April 17 Posted April 17 12 minutes ago, WASTREL said: I feel sure Its that very reason Hearts Academy are getting the Youth Players building up the playing minutes to enable JTA assessment Yeah, the Lowland league is not a league that JTA do stats on, so we had to get the youngsters playing in the SPFL to give them minutes to be able to assess them. 1 minute ago, johnking123 said: Probably find he has played a lot more that these sights say. Possibly, if he does come fair play. Is a big guy at 6ft 4inches and has made a big impact in Latvia. If we did sign him I suspect it would be to sign him while his cheap rather than for him to play straight away.
Ribble Posted April 17 Posted April 17 On 13/04/2026 at 19:54, johnking123 said: Hope we don't go signing to many Scottish players. It never works well! David Watson,Barney Stewart and Luke Graham would be nice on paper. But do they pass Jamestown. Think we will try the Irish markets again and add a few 18/19 year olds. Need to take a chance on some young talent. But do expect one or two real quality players. Real level above. I think we'll aim for a slightly younger age group of 17/about to turn 18 so as that regardless of nationality they would be able to qualify as club trained for European squads after 3 years.
Dick Dastardly Posted April 17 Posted April 17 1 hour ago, jamboinglasgow said: Yeah, the Lowland league is not a league that JTA do stats on, so we had to get the youngsters playing in the SPFL to give them minutes to be able to assess them. So JTA wouldn't do stats specifically for our B team?
Gorgierools Posted April 17 Posted April 17 14 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said: Motherwell midfield please. Just please
Tynecastle Valhalla Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Elijah just and mashinawese must be worth a look. might need to spend a serious wedge right enough.
Ribble Posted April 17 Posted April 17 38 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: So JTA wouldn't do stats specifically for our B team? They won't be able to do anything accurately, a key part of the base data will be using an algorithm to overlay GPS vest data over match video and at LL level neither is automatically available, we may do basic analysis of our own players using video from home games but it's then almost impossible to compare against the rest of the lowland league for example.
johnking123 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, Tynecastle Valhalla said: Elijah just and mashinawese must be worth a look. might need to spend a serious wedge right enough. Have to sell Braga to afford it.
jamboinglasgow Posted April 17 Posted April 17 4 minutes ago, Ribble said: They won't be able to do anything accurately, a key part of the base data will be using an algorithm to overlay GPS vest data over match video and at LL level neither is automatically available, we may do basic analysis of our own players using video from home games but it's then almost impossible to compare against the rest of the lowland league for example. Yup, something from what I can tell from reports that makes Jamestown above all others is how its not just about the player stats but getting a clear understanding of the league they play in from stats. And its incredibly detailed and take in data points which few think about. Which means you can get a clear picture of how a player is doing and how they would cope with a step up in a league.
boag1874 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Tynecastle Valhalla said: Elijah just and mashinawese must be worth a look. might need to spend a serious wedge right enough. Fees will be too high imo. One thing that’s absolutely definite with JTA is we won’t overpay, it goes against the whole point of it which is about value for money & if that is the profile we want then finding an Elijah Just type player who won’t break the bank Edited April 17 by boag1874
Farmer1 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 1 minute ago, boag1874 said: Fees will be too high imo. One thing that’s absolutely definite with JTA is we won’t overpay, it goes against the whole point of it which is about value for money & finding an Elijah Just type player who won’t break the bank Just is good but being honest I think it’s system/coaching that makes him. I would be worried he would become like Dhanda if he signed for us, a good technical player but not physical enough
jamboinglasgow Posted April 17 Posted April 17 1 minute ago, boag1874 said: Fees will be too high imo. One thing that’s absolutely definite with JTA is we won’t overpay, it goes against the whole point of it which is about value for money & if that is the profile we want then finding an Elijah Just type player who won’t break the bank There is also the factor that just because a player has done really well in our league doesn't mean they fit the JTA rating for what we are looking for. But as you say its about getting the most bang for our buck with signings that JTA works with.
NextGenerationJambo Posted April 17 Posted April 17 3 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said: Yeah I was wondering that too, even if JTA did the Panamanian league, he still has less than half of the 3000 minutes. I may be imagining this, but I think I remember reading that for youth players, the threshold is 1500 minutes, instead of 3000. It may have been in reference to our own youth players but maybe it extends to guys like this that have just broken through. Like I said though, that could be a complete hallucination on my part 😂
Absolute Scenes Posted April 17 Posted April 17 57 minutes ago, Tynecastle Valhalla said: Elijah just and mashinawese must be worth a look. might need to spend a serious wedge right enough. Just for sure. Maswanise has a bit of regan charles cook about him though, quite a number of his goals have been pens.
Dick Dastardly Posted April 17 Posted April 17 55 minutes ago, Ribble said: They won't be able to do anything accurately, a key part of the base data will be using an algorithm to overlay GPS vest data over match video and at LL level neither is automatically available, we may do basic analysis of our own players using video from home games but it's then almost impossible to compare against the rest of the lowland league for example. That makes a lot of sense. Cheers
OTT Posted April 17 Posted April 17 1 hour ago, boag1874 said: Fees will be too high imo. One thing that’s absolutely definite with JTA is we won’t overpay, it goes against the whole point of it which is about value for money & if that is the profile we want then finding an Elijah Just type player who won’t break the bank Yeah, its a non-starter. The whole idea of JTA is to find talent before its obvious or maybe to find talent at a lower level and be that club to take the gamble on them. Spending the sort of money that would be required to land them is outside of our price range. One thing we could do, is take Maswanise's data map, and look for similar players. Ditto Just. Sadly the horse has already bolted on both IMO. If there was one SPFL player who is clearly shining that we should be putting all of our efforts into signing, I think it should be Barney Stewart.
Ribble Posted April 17 Posted April 17 1 hour ago, NextGenerationJambo said: I may be imagining this, but I think I remember reading that for youth players, the threshold is 1500 minutes, instead of 3000. It may have been in reference to our own youth players but maybe it extends to guys like this that have just broken through. Like I said though, that could be a complete hallucination on my part 😂 It's quite possible that they do, if for no other reason that youth scouting is so unpredictable that 1500 mins is good enough to get some sort of indication on players below a certain age. I'm also sure that while the 3000 mins is generally the threshold for a recommendation as that's the point where JTA's confidence in the data is 100%, there will be instances where players we want to have a rating for have less than that but JTA will provide a rating on the available data with a caveat that they are only x% confident on the rating, for example we want a rating for a player with 2400 minutes, we'd get a rating back with 80% confidence.
Jamboross Posted April 17 Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Absolute Scenes said: Just for sure. Maswanise has a bit of regan charles cook about him though, quite a number of his goals have been pens. 3 penalties in the league this season, take them away and he's still scored the same number of league goals as Braga. And in roughly the same number of games he's scored approx double the number of goals RCC managed in his time at Ross County. I think he's certainly been helped by the way Askou has them playing but he's clearly a very decent player, whether that would translate to McInnesBall I'm not so sure. Non starter anyway as we wouldn't pay the hefty fee Motherwell would be after this summer.
Dick Dastardly Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Alfie Osborne to Marseille, maybe. I've absolutely no idea if this is a reliable news site or not https://www.getfootballnewsfrance.com/2026/marseille-interested-in-hearts-and-scotland-defender/
Norm Posted April 17 Posted April 17 On 16/04/2026 at 15:09, johnking123 said: Josué Vergara If he brings his sister Sofia to the games, that'll do me.
JamboAl Posted April 17 Posted April 17 2 hours ago, OTT said: Yeah, its a non-starter. The whole idea of JTA is to find talent before its obvious or maybe to find talent at a lower level and be that club to take the gamble on them. Spending the sort of money that would be required to land them is outside of our price range. One thing we could do, is take Maswanise's data map, and look for similar players. Ditto Just. Sadly the horse has already bolted on both IMO. If there was one SPFL player who is clearly shining that we should be putting all of our efforts into signing, I think it should be Barney Stewart. He did little to impress at the recent Tynie game and speaking to a Bairns fan after the game, he said "BS was anonymous today". To be fair that was only 1 game
BigStein Posted April 17 Posted April 17 Maswanhise will go for big money and I predict that he’ll fail miserably at his next club. The next in a long line of Motherwell strikers like Kevin Van Veen, Theo Bair, Louis Moult and Micheal Higdon
Gorgierools Posted April 17 Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Batistuta9 said: Big lad! Maybe just tight shorts?
BRY Posted April 17 Posted April 17 3 hours ago, OTT said: Yeah, its a non-starter. The whole idea of JTA is to find talent before its obvious or maybe to find talent at a lower level and be that club to take the gamble on them. Spending the sort of money that would be required to land them is outside of our price range. One thing we could do, is take Maswanise's data map, and look for similar players. Ditto Just. Sadly the horse has already bolted on both IMO. If there was one SPFL player who is clearly shining that we should be putting all of our efforts into signing, I think it should be Barney Stewart. Agreed - I see him as the next Shankland
Dick Dastardly Posted April 17 Posted April 17 1 hour ago, Batistuta9 said: Big lad! He needs to get that 5-1 sorted out though.
Threedoorsdown Posted April 17 Posted April 17 5 hours ago, Tynecastle Valhalla said: Elijah just and mashinawese must be worth a look. might need to spend a serious wedge right enough. We buy at wholesale prices. These guys are going for retails prices now.
maroonedinbriz Posted April 17 Posted April 17 2 hours ago, Norm said: If he brings his sister Sofia to the games, that'll do me. 🥰😍💘
Absolute Scenes Posted April 17 Posted April 17 3 hours ago, Jamboross said: 3 penalties in the league this season, take them away and he's still scored the same number of league goals as Braga. And in roughly the same number of games he's scored approx double the number of goals RCC managed in his time at Ross County. I think he's certainly been helped by the way Askou has them playing but he's clearly a very decent player, whether that would translate to McInnesBall I'm not so sure. Non starter anyway as we wouldn't pay the hefty fee Motherwell would be after this summer. Only the three?! I could’ve sworn he was coming up with pens every few games 😅 fair enough then
Babertonhearts Posted April 17 Posted April 17 7 hours ago, jamboinglasgow said: Yup, something from what I can tell from reports that makes Jamestown above all others is how its not just about the player stats but getting a clear understanding of the league they play in from stats. And its incredibly detailed and take in data points which few think about. Which means you can get a clear picture of how a player is doing and how they would cope with a step up in a league. Honestly just where do you read all this "all from reports". If it's all clear cut how does Mato and Chesny for example fit into our league, it's data based and loaded, for example if we want a striker, McInnes gets 40/50 names on his desk and Hearts take it from there, that's how it works I believe, but I may be wrong.....
soonbe110 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 9 hours ago, OTT said: Yeah, its a non-starter. The whole idea of JTA is to find talent before its obvious or maybe to find talent at a lower level and be that club to take the gamble on them. Spending the sort of money that would be required to land them is outside of our price range. One thing we could do, is take Maswanise's data map, and look for similar players. Ditto Just. Sadly the horse has already bolted on both IMO. If there was one SPFL player who is clearly shining that we should be putting all of our efforts into signing, I think it should be Barney Stewart. Not really tbh. In the last couple of years Brighton have bought players for £30m, even £40m, certainly not trying to find them at a lower level. All of them were well known before being signed. The JTA model is based on a mix of solid signings and well-researched ‘gambles’. Could easily see us splashing the money for one or two Well players if they score well with JTA
Pasquale for King Posted April 17 Posted April 17 10 hours ago, Farmer1 said: Just is good but being honest I think it’s system/coaching that makes him. I would be worried he would become like Dhanda if he signed for us, a good technical player but not physical enough Good point, I would imagine he obviously would’ve been someone JTA knew about.
Pasquale for King Posted April 17 Posted April 17 6 hours ago, BigStein said: Maswanhise will go for big money and I predict that he’ll fail miserably at his next club. The next in a long line of Motherwell strikers like Kevin Van Veen, Theo Bair, Louis Moult and Micheal Higdon They do a fantastic job unearthing them and different managers get the very best out of them, certainly doing something right.
jamboinglasgow Posted April 17 Posted April 17 matches up with what a poster who has given good info in the past said a few weeks, that we are in talks with a French midfielder.
Hømme Posted April 17 Posted April 17 23 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Not really tbh. In the last couple of years Brighton have bought players for £30m, even £40m, certainly not trying to find them at a lower level. All of them were well known before being signed. The JTA model is based on a mix of solid signings and well-researched ‘gambles’. Could easily see us splashing the money for one or two Well players if they score well with JTA Yeah you're correct. It's not all about unknown players. It's about buying and selling at the right time and having success along the way. There is absolutely no rules about being unable to sign more established players.
Hømme Posted April 17 Posted April 17 6 hours ago, BigStein said: Maswanhise will go for big money and I predict that he’ll fail miserably at his next club. The next in a long line of Motherwell strikers like Kevin Van Veen, Theo Bair, Louis Moult and Micheal Higdon John Sutton
Maroon Sailor Posted April 17 Posted April 17 10 minutes ago, Hømme said: John Sutton Feck knows how he couldn't hit a barn door for us when he rattled them in for St Mirren and Motherwell.
tiger Rudi Posted April 17 Posted April 17 43 minutes ago, fmjambo said: Tom Renaud Scores low just now but some stats sites say he has potential to be as high as Devlin and Leonard. Could be a typical JTA signing.
jamboinglasgow Posted April 17 Posted April 17 7 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said: Feck knows how he couldn't hit a barn door for us when he rattled them in for St Mirren and Motherwell. I think he is a classic example of why you dont just sign a player because they scored a lot of goals and not understanding why. We seemed to think because he is big that he would able to replace Kevin Kyle, thinking he could be the target man up top but that was not his game. I would say that Motherwell seem to have done well in the couple of decades of getting a striker who turns into prolific scorer, but only seems to do it at their club.
Bongo 1874 Posted April 17 Posted April 17 10 minutes ago, tiger Rudi said: Scores low just now but some stats sites say he has potential to be as high as Devlin and Leonard. Could be a typical JTA signing. His range of passing is key we don't have that in midfield currently 👍.
JamboAl Posted April 17 Posted April 17 10 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: His range of passing is key we don't have that in midfield currently 👍. Interesting - a MF who can play the ball forward.
Agentjambo Posted April 17 Posted April 17 He can pass forwards! He can run forwards! Exactly what we don’t have. Welcome Maestro 🇱🇻🇫🇷🇱🇻
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