CM Funk Posted April 7 Posted April 7 On 06/04/2026 at 18:58, Jamboross said: Won the penalty for our equaliser against Falkirk in the cup, won us three points with his goal against Falkirk in the league, pressed the Livi player into the error that created our equaliser yesterday. That's not nothing given his fairly limited game time. I'm not saying he's been brilliant, he hasn't, but he also hasn't been anywhere near as bad as folk are making out. I'm not sure why everything has to be so black or white, he's had some good and some bad and had been fairly average overall. That should improve with game time and hopefully at some point a competent footballer behind him. First time?
RustyRightPeg Posted April 7 Posted April 7 Just now, CM Funk said: Tait, McPake, permanent signing of Findlay and extension for Halkett. Hardly seems upon initial viewing that our intentions are to vastly improve our current levels next season. Tait and McPake two young Scottish players with lots of room for growth. Findlay and Halkett two leaders in the dressing room, our Lewis Dunk’s. Lots to like about it I’d say.
CM Funk Posted April 7 Posted April 7 5 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Tait and McPake two young Scottish players with lots of room for growth. Findlay and Halkett two leaders in the dressing room, our Lewis Dunk’s. Lots to like about it I’d say. Wasn’t saying they’d be bad signings. Just if we do sign Tait along with the others the immediate levels are not vastly increasing is all I’m saying. Maybe an incremental increase. But if Halkett and Findlay are our pairing next season at the back we’ll be knocked out of Euro playoffs very early I’d say. And all well and good having players with potential but we have a manager who doesn’t want to give potential room to develop.
RustyRightPeg Posted April 8 Posted April 8 9 hours ago, CM Funk said: Wasn’t saying they’d be bad signings. Just if we do sign Tait along with the others the immediate levels are not vastly increasing is all I’m saying. Maybe an incremental increase. But if Halkett and Findlay are our pairing next season at the back we’ll be knocked out of Euro playoffs very early I’d say. And all well and good having players with potential but we have a manager who doesn’t want to give potential room to develop. If you look at who they’ll be replacing they make total sense, and are upgrades. McPake for Forrest and Tait for Hoff.
Jambof3tornado Posted April 8 Posted April 8 9 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said: Tait and McPake two young Scottish players with lots of room for growth. Findlay and Halkett two leaders in the dressing room, our Lewis Dunk’s. Lots to like about it I’d say. We should be looking to improve on Halkett and Findlay. I know when defenders make mistakes its normally more costly so more focus placed on it but going into europe with the 2 CBs we have as starters is a worry. I guess we'll wait and see.
TheBigO Posted April 8 Posted April 8 On 07/04/2026 at 00:39, Hertz21 said: I reckon we need a centre half in summer. Someone that is comfortable at stepping out with the ball and I’m not suggesting they go on mazies but the amount of times at the weekend I was almost tearing my hair out the pair at the back not walking forward with the ball was extremely frustrating. Praying Ague is the answer to our midfield issues but I’d still sign another due to his inability to get fit. 100% need a CH imo,preferably a lefty
wcjambo Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 minute ago, TheBigO said: 100% need a CH imo,preferably a lefty I'm not sure how much is being quoted for him but is there any chance we could go for luke graham if we had europe to convince him. getting these young scots in is a big thing to me, as we need people who know the club and what it means, so if it requires a slight premium i think it's worth paying. if the players have their heads screwed on they know they're guarenteed more gametime here as well. graham, stewart and probably hamilton I think are all worth picking up in the summer.
RustyRightPeg Posted April 8 Posted April 8 42 minutes ago, Jambof3tornado said: We should be looking to improve on Halkett and Findlay. I know when defenders make mistakes its normally more costly so more focus placed on it but going into europe with the 2 CBs we have as starters is a worry. I guess we'll wait and see. I agree that we need centre halves, I’d say 3 at least. Steinwender evidently isn’t fancied and McCart showed on Sunday he isn’t at the level. Halkett and Findlay are good base blocks to have.
Badonde Posted April 8 Posted April 8 We’ll probably bring in about 10 players. Beni, devlin, braga and kyzi will all be away I’d imagine. Still got a lot of deadwood to sell or release.
CM Funk Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, RustyRightPeg said: If you look at who they’ll be replacing they make total sense, and are upgrades. McPake for Forrest and Tait for Hoff. Upgrades absolutely. On paper at least. A big jump in levels they are not though. As in let’s say Forrest is level 2 and is being replaced by a level 3 or 4. We’re not exactly jumping up to competing in European competition levels with these signing though is all I’m saying. Which is fine as incremental improvement is still improvement. I just think people have in their heads that this summer we’ll be soaring the levels and I just don’t think that’s the case based on who we’re signing, rumoured to be or extending contracts.
CMc Posted April 8 Posted April 8 6 minutes ago, CM Funk said: Upgrades absolutely. On paper at least. A big jump in levels they are not though. As in let’s say Forrest is level 2 and is being replaced by a level 3 or 4. We’re not exactly jumping up to competing in European competition levels with these signing though is all I’m saying. Which is fine as incremental improvement is still improvement. I just think people have in their heads that this summer we’ll be soaring the levels and I just don’t think that’s the case based on who we’re signing, rumoured to be or extending contracts. Who had we signed by early April last year?
HamishMcGonagall Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Jambof3tornado said: We should be looking to improve on Halkett and Findlay. I know when defenders make mistakes its normally more costly so more focus placed on it but going into europe with the 2 CBs we have as starters is a worry. I guess we'll wait and see. This isn't a kneejerk reaction to Sunday, I've been saying it for a while, but I think Halkett looks like he's put on some of the weight back on that he lost during the summer which will surely affect his performance levels. My daughter agrees that it looks like he has but I don't know if anyone else sees it or if it's just our minds playing tricks on us.
boag1874 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Jambof3tornado said: We should be looking to improve on Halkett and Findlay. I know when defenders make mistakes its normally more costly so more focus placed on it but going into europe with the 2 CBs we have as starters is a worry. I guess we'll wait and see. Of all the players I'd be worried about, Craig Halkett is not one. He's been an absolute rock this season & is comfortably the best CB in Scotland, one bad day doesn't change that.
Batistuta9 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 42 minutes ago, boag1874 said: Of all the players I'd be worried about, Craig Halkett is not one. He's been an absolute rock this season & is comfortably the best CB in Scotland, one bad day doesn't change that. Correct. The over-reactions from one mistake are embarrassing.
RustyRightPeg Posted April 8 Posted April 8 13 minutes ago, Batistuta9 said: Correct. The over-reactions from one mistake are embarrassing. I’ve seen other players get more of a lambasting for doing less wrong than Halkett did on Sunday to be fair.
Jambof3tornado Posted April 8 Posted April 8 57 minutes ago, boag1874 said: Of all the players I'd be worried about, Craig Halkett is not one. He's been an absolute rock this season & is comfortably the best CB in Scotland, one bad day doesn't change that. His fitness issues remain an issue hence the private treatment he's been receiving for months. Not sure if he can be fixed by an Op but we saw the other week him drop out at the final hour....love the guy but we cant afford to have key players miss games. He's not getting any younger and that's why I'd be looking for better.
Famous 1874 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 I'd be offering Braga a new contract. Would really hate to lose him. Weaknesses persist at centre back, right back and centre mid especially.
rudi must stay Posted April 8 Posted April 8 4 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said: I'd be offering Braga a new contract. Would really hate to lose him. Weaknesses persist at centre back, right back and centre mid especially. Braga will go but he'll go for £5 million +
CM Funk Posted April 8 Posted April 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, CMc said: Who had we signed by early April last year? Borchgrevink was announced April 10th and we also announced contract extensions for Wilson and Forrester in April. I’m not having a go at the transfer policy even though it might come across that way by the way (going from some of the replies). I’m just saying I’m not expecting anything major this window. I mean surely you see by extending Halkett’s contract and signing Findlay on a pre-contract it’s not leaving us much wiggle room to bring in top CB’s for example? Especially with McCart on a long term deal. Kent will leave and likely Steinwender sold I’m sure (although I still think his potential is better than our current first choice pairing’s cap) but I have my doubts that Halkett and Findlay will become the backup to any new signings. Likely we bring in young defenders with potential who will have to bide their time while adjusting to new league etc. If we don’t extend Devlin and Beni and Hoff leaves then we have a gap to fill in midfield which to me would be the strongest area we could have as with Leonard’s loan finishing we’d effectively be left with Magnusson, Ageu and McEntee so wiggle room to improve the standard. Shankland won’t be sold. Braga might and could maybe be the next one to fill. But again JTA doesn’t really sell for profit and go and buy bigger and better necessarily. They follow the same route of getting unknowns for relative peanuts that might or might not make it. I just don’t think we’ll be smashing our wage cap this summer meaning we won’t be upping the level of the squad drastically. Don’t think that’s a controversial take do you? Edited April 8 by CM Funk
RustyRightPeg Posted April 8 Posted April 8 8 minutes ago, Famous 1874 said: I'd be offering Braga a new contract. Would really hate to lose him. Weaknesses persist at centre back, right back and centre mid especially. Get used to that.
Jim Panzee Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, HamishMcGonagall said: This isn't a kneejerk reaction to Sunday, I've been saying it for a while, but I think Halkett looks like he's put on some of the weight back on that he lost during the summer which will surely affect his performance levels. My daughter agrees that it looks like he has but I don't know if anyone else sees it or if it's just our minds playing tricks on us. It's a well known (kick)FACT that any of our certain players who have a bad game or make a mistake are instantly transformed into fatty ballatties. thank the lord shanks scored on sunday otherwise he'd also be in line for a return of the fatty arbuckle observations......
CM Funk Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, HamishMcGonagall said: This isn't a kneejerk reaction to Sunday, I've been saying it for a while, but I think Halkett looks like he's put on some of the weight back on that he lost during the summer which will surely affect his performance levels. My daughter agrees that it looks like he has but I don't know if anyone else sees it or if it's just our minds playing tricks on us. Actually said this when watching the game on Sunday. I’m hoping it’s due to the injury meaning he hasn’t been able to train as well and not a drop off since winning a contract extension. Wouldn’t be the first player to have such a thing.
jambocub Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, HamishMcGonagall said: This isn't a kneejerk reaction to Sunday, I've been saying it for a while, but I think Halkett looks like he's put on some of the weight back on that he lost during the summer which will surely affect his performance levels. My daughter agrees that it looks like he has but I don't know if anyone else sees it or if it's just our minds playing tricks on us. Thought the same myself
RustyRightPeg Posted April 8 Posted April 8 24 minutes ago, CM Funk said: Borchgrevink was announced April 10th and we also announced contract extensions for Wilson and Forrester in April. I’m not having a go at the transfer policy even though it might come across that way by the way (going from some of the replies). I’m just saying I’m not expecting anything major this window. I mean surely you see by extending Halkett’s contract and signing Findlay on a pre-contract it’s not leaving us much wiggle room to bring in top CB’s for example? Especially with McCart on a long term deal. Kent will leave and likely Steinwender sold I’m sure (although I still think his potential is better than our current first choice pairing’s cap) but I have my doubts that Halkett and Findlay will become the backup to any new signings. Likely we bring in young defenders with potential who will have to bide their time while adjusting to new league etc. If we don’t extend Devlin and Beni and Hoff leaves then we have a gap to fill in midfield which to me would be the strongest area we could have as with Leonard’s loan finishing we’d effectively be left with Magnusson, Ageu and McEntee so wiggle room to improve the standard. Shankland won’t be sold. Braga might and could maybe be the next one to fill. But again JTA doesn’t really sell for profit and go and buy bigger and better necessarily. They follow the same route of getting unknowns for relative peanuts that might or might not make it. I just don’t think we’ll be smashing our wage cap this summer meaning we won’t be upping the level of the squad drastically. Don’t think that’s a controversial take do you? We have signed from the bottom of the Jamestown barrel, thus far. Selling for profit allows us to sign better players from the barrel, better graded players. Irrespective of wages, we’re still able to get players in the door for big fees, and pay them “Hearts” wages. There’s no concern about wiggle room at the club. You’re overthinking it. We still have a large amount of deadwood, on big wages (Kent, Spittal, Dhanda etc.). You can pretty much guarantee Dhanda and Spittal will be on higher salaries than the likes of Magnusson and Altena, stupidly, so again I wouldn’t worry about wiggle room when it comes to incomings.
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Halkett is struggling I think with his back, would be a risk to pin any hope on him playing as much football next season, done well to get this far the boy. Next year we have more football potentially, we will need players who can play 30+ and others who might play 20, Halkett would be in the latter with his medical history
Gorgie USM Posted April 8 Posted April 8 12 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: We have signed from the bottom of the Jamestown barrel, thus far. Selling for profit allows us to sign better players from the barrel, better graded players. Irrespective of wages, we’re still able to get players in the door for big fees, and pay them “Hearts” wages. There’s no concern about wiggle room at the club. You’re overthinking it. We still have a large amount of deadwood, on big wages (Kent, Spittal, Dhanda etc.). You can pretty much guarantee Dhanda and Spittal will be on higher salaries than the likes of Magnusson and Altena, stupidly, so again I wouldn’t worry about wiggle room when it comes to incomings. Agreed. Ageu last summer is the benchmark. With some level of European games and £ we will be aiming at that level or above. We will still make better signings than our 2 rivals
Badonde Posted April 8 Posted April 8 2 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Halkett is struggling I think with his back, would be a risk to pin any hope on him playing as much football next season, done well to get this far the boy. Next year we have more football potentially, we will need players who can play 30+ and others who might play 20, Halkett would be in the latter with his medical history Why give him a new contract then? id rather be didn’t keep injury prone players like halkett and beni etc
johnking123 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 We need better than Halkett and Findlay. Having them as our backup would be a step up. Move on McCart and possibly sell Steinwender. Bring in two CB. Starters.
Pasquale for King Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Halkett has made more than one mistake that’s cost us this season ffs. As good as he is in the air his fitness is always a worry we really need two upgrades at CH for whichever European competition we are in next season.
Pasquale for King Posted April 8 Posted April 8 3 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said: If you look at who they’ll be replacing they make total sense, and are upgrades. McPake for Forrest and Tait for Hoff. Hoff has another year, can’t see him giving that up tbh.
boag1874 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 44 minutes ago, CM Funk said: Borchgrevink was announced April 10th and we also announced contract extensions for Wilson and Forrester in April. I’m not having a go at the transfer policy even though it might come across that way by the way (going from some of the replies). I’m just saying I’m not expecting anything major this window. I mean surely you see by extending Halkett’s contract and signing Findlay on a pre-contract it’s not leaving us much wiggle room to bring in top CB’s for example? Especially with McCart on a long term deal. Kent will leave and likely Steinwender sold I’m sure (although I still think his potential is better than our current first choice pairing’s cap) but I have my doubts that Halkett and Findlay will become the backup to any new signings. Likely we bring in young defenders with potential who will have to bide their time while adjusting to new league etc. If we don’t extend Devlin and Beni and Hoff leaves then we have a gap to fill in midfield which to me would be the strongest area we could have as with Leonard’s loan finishing we’d effectively be left with Magnusson, Ageu and McEntee so wiggle room to improve the standard. Shankland won’t be sold. Braga might and could maybe be the next one to fill. But again JTA doesn’t really sell for profit and go and buy bigger and better necessarily. They follow the same route of getting unknowns for relative peanuts that might or might not make it. I just don’t think we’ll be smashing our wage cap this summer meaning we won’t be upping the level of the squad drastically. Don’t think that’s a controversial take do you? Off the mark with that one. JTA is about value for money but that doesn't just mean we'll be signing players for £500k forever - as the player sales increase so does the transfer budget. Look at USG for example - according to Transfermarkt in 20/21 they spent 300k. In 21/22 they made 7m & spent 1.16m. In 22/23 they made 12.75m & spent 7.48m. In 23/24 they made 40.29m & spent 16.37m. Last season they made less with 25.20m but still spent 19m & this season they made 70m & spent 21.55m. This is the trajectory we're now on, this is the model we're following - buy players who represent good value, sell them for profit, reinvest that profit in more expensive players who still represent good value.
JimmyCant Posted April 8 Posted April 8 5 minutes ago, johnking123 said: We need better than Halkett and Findlay. Having them as our backup would be a step up. Move on McCart and possibly sell Steinwender. Bring in two CB. Starters. This Upgrades all over the park is where we should be thinking for the next few years of JTA. Can’t all be done at once obviously but we need to start at centre back and central midfield IMO
CMc Posted April 8 Posted April 8 54 minutes ago, CM Funk said: Borchgrevink was announced April 10th and we also announced contract extensions for Wilson and Forrester in April. I’m not having a go at the transfer policy even though it might come across that way by the way (going from some of the replies). I’m just saying I’m not expecting anything major this window. I mean surely you see by extending Halkett’s contract and signing Findlay on a pre-contract it’s not leaving us much wiggle room to bring in top CB’s for example? Especially with McCart on a long term deal. Kent will leave and likely Steinwender sold I’m sure (although I still think his potential is better than our current first choice pairing’s cap) but I have my doubts that Halkett and Findlay will become the backup to any new signings. Likely we bring in young defenders with potential who will have to bide their time while adjusting to new league etc. If we don’t extend Devlin and Beni and Hoff leaves then we have a gap to fill in midfield which to me would be the strongest area we could have as with Leonard’s loan finishing we’d effectively be left with Magnusson, Ageu and McEntee so wiggle room to improve the standard. Shankland won’t be sold. Braga might and could maybe be the next one to fill. But again JTA doesn’t really sell for profit and go and buy bigger and better necessarily. They follow the same route of getting unknowns for relative peanuts that might or might not make it. I just don’t think we’ll be smashing our wage cap this summer meaning we won’t be upping the level of the squad drastically. Don’t think that’s a controversial take do you? What I disagree with is trying to draw a trend from the visible information around Findlay, Halkett and McPake to suggest that the next window will be dull. Did Wilson and Forester extending and Borg signing predictions the arrival of Kyzi, Braga, Ageu Magnusson, Chesnekov, Mato and Kabore? Nope. April was a little bit of admin before a big summer. You’ve said you think two CBs will leave. That leaves room for two CBs. You’ve mentioned three midfielders who might leave. They will need replaced. keeping the starting CBs means we can add a couple of strong ones who have a higher ceiling than the incumbents but on lower wages. We have signed Mags and Ageu who are the core of the next midfield. Again, we can sign a couple and be back up to numbers. The money we dropped on Ageu and were rumoured to be spending on Karlsbakk suggests they could be significant upgrades. Kabangu will go and be replaced. Braga and Kyzi may well go, potentially bringing in £8-10m to cover the additions. I think we will see lots of transfer fees in and out with a slight raise to the top wage and a high volume of business. Just like summer window last year. I think that is what the trend is showing.
RustyRightPeg Posted April 8 Posted April 8 6 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Hoff has another year, can’t see him giving that up tbh. Wouldn’t expect him to but for the good of his own career he needs to play whether that’s here or elsewhere.
GinRummy Posted April 8 Posted April 8 21 minutes ago, johnking123 said: We need better than Halkett and Findlay. Having them as our backup would be a step up. Move on McCart and possibly sell Steinwender. Bring in two CB. Starters. McCart won’t be going anywhere. He’s under contract until 2029 and isn’t playing for a better club than Hearts.
johnking123 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Just now, GinRummy said: McCart won’t be going anywhere. He’s under contract until 2029 and isn’t playing for a better club than Hearts. Be 5 choice CB or out on loan.
RustyRightPeg Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 minute ago, GinRummy said: McCart won’t be going anywhere. He’s under contract until 2029 and isn’t playing for a better club than Hearts. If things go as we hope…he won’t be playing at Hearts either.
HamishMcGonagall Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, Jim Panzee said: It's a well known (kick)FACT that any of our certain players who have a bad game or make a mistake are instantly transformed into fatty ballatties. thank the lord shanks scored on sunday otherwise he'd also be in line for a return of the fatty arbuckle observations...... Fatty ballatties, ha! I wasn't saying this just after his bad game on Sunday, it was in response to a poster suggesting we'd need better for next season than Halkett and Findlay. Halkett came into this season in peak condition and got plenty compliments for it and has been one of our better players because of it, but I don't think he's in as good condition now. Maybe if he has been having ongoing back issues he's not been able to train as much. Just thought I'd put it out there and see if anyone else felt the same or if my eyes were deceiving me. At least I didn't start a thread about it!
spacerjoe Posted April 8 Posted April 8 2 hours ago, CM Funk said: Upgrades absolutely. On paper at least. A big jump in levels they are not though. As in let’s say Forrest is level 2 and is being replaced by a level 3 or 4. We’re not exactly jumping up to competing in European competition levels with these signing though is all I’m saying. Which is fine as incremental improvement is still improvement. I just think people have in their heads that this summer we’ll be soaring the levels and I just don’t think that’s the case based on who we’re signing, rumoured to be or extending contracts. What level is Braga?
GinRummy Posted April 8 Posted April 8 9 minutes ago, johnking123 said: Be 5 choice CB or out on loan. 8 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: If things go as we hope…he won’t be playing at Hearts either. Agreed. Doubt he’ll feature much
CM Funk Posted April 8 Posted April 8 44 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: We have signed from the bottom of the Jamestown barrel, thus far. Selling for profit allows us to sign better players from the barrel, better graded players. Irrespective of wages, we’re still able to get players in the door for big fees, and pay them “Hearts” wages. There’s no concern about wiggle room at the club. You’re overthinking it. We still have a large amount of deadwood, on big wages (Kent, Spittal, Dhanda etc.). You can pretty much guarantee Dhanda and Spittal will be on higher salaries than the likes of Magnusson and Altena, stupidly, so again I wouldn’t worry about wiggle room when it comes to incomings. I’m not overthinking it. I just think others are possibly overestimating the rise in levels this summer will bring. We will absolutely move some ‘deadwood’ on but I’m not sure they’ll be replaced with massive improvements is all I’m saying. Improvements yes but I’m not expecting huge improvements is all. 14 minutes ago, boag1874 said: Off the mark with that one. JTA is about value for money but that doesn't just mean we'll be signing players for £500k forever - as the player sales increase so does the transfer budget. Look at USG for example - according to Transfermarkt in 20/21 they spent 300k. In 21/22 they made 7m & spent 1.16m. In 22/23 they made 12.75m & spent 7.48m. In 23/24 they made 40.29m & spent 16.37m. Last season they made less with 25.20m but still spent 19m & this season they made 70m & spent 21.55m. This is the trajectory we're now on, this is the model we're following - buy players who represent good value, sell them for profit, reinvest that profit in more expensive players who still represent good value. But I’m not talking about summer 2028 or 2030. I’m talking about this summer and all I’m saying is it’ll be incremental improvements in levels and money spent. Just like your USG template shows. They weren’t massively increasing their second summer. 6 minutes ago, CMc said: What I disagree with is trying to draw a trend from the visible information around Findlay, Halkett and McPake to suggest that the next window will be dull. Did Wilson and Forester extending and Borg signing predictions the arrival of Kyzi, Braga, Ageu Magnusson, Chesnekov, Mato and Kabore? Nope. April was a little bit of admin before a big summer. You’ve said you think two CBs will leave. That leaves room for two CBs. You’ve mentioned three midfielders who might leave. They will need replaced. keeping the starting CBs means we can add a couple of strong ones who have a higher ceiling than the incumbents but on lower wages. We have signed Mags and Ageu who are the core of the next midfield. Again, we can sign a couple and be back up to numbers. The money we dropped on Ageu and were rumoured to be spending on Karlsbakk suggests they could be significant upgrades. Kabangu will go and be replaced. Braga and Kyzi may well go, potentially bringing in £8-10m to cover the additions. I think we will see lots of transfer fees in and out with a slight raise to the top wage and a high volume of business. Just like summer window last year. I think that is what the trend is showing. Again I’m not sayings behave never said it will be “dull”. I’m just saying I’m not expecting us to be making any signings suggesting we’re pulling up any trees. Yes as others have I’ve quoted have suggested I can foresee an increase in expenditure on transfer fees in particular. Maybe even see the record set by Ageu’s signing to be broken. But I’m not expecting much in the way of an overhaul. Not even along the lines of last summer as that was needed more. I do think that we’ll get new CB’s, I just have my doubts they’ll be automatic improvements on Halkett and Findlay and may be perceived to be players for the future. I expect the same with a backup keeper and maybe in attack as I won’t see Shankland being improved upon either. As I’ve said previously the only area I see possibility for significant improvement would be midfield. But I also think we’ll still be within certain parameters. And remember for Europe we’ll need a certain level of home grown players so that’ll need to be taken into account too. For instance if we were in Europe this season there may have been a few guys that would have had to miss out.
Pasquale for King Posted April 8 Posted April 8 23 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Wouldn’t expect him to but for the good of his own career he needs to play whether that’s here or elsewhere. I don’t think he’s ever fit enough to play, unlikely to get as good a contract elsewhere, you never know.
Pasquale for King Posted April 8 Posted April 8 5 minutes ago, CM Funk said: I’m not overthinking it. I just think others are possibly overestimating the rise in levels this summer will bring. We will absolutely move some ‘deadwood’ on but I’m not sure they’ll be replaced with massive improvements is all I’m saying. Improvements yes but I’m not expecting huge improvements is all. But I’m not talking about summer 2028 or 2030. I’m talking about this summer and all I’m saying is it’ll be incremental improvements in levels and money spent. Just like your USG template shows. They weren’t massively increasing their second summer. Again I’m not sayings behave never said it will be “dull”. I’m just saying I’m not expecting us to be making any signings suggesting we’re pulling up any trees. Yes as others have I’ve quoted have suggested I can foresee an increase in expenditure on transfer fees in particular. Maybe even see the record set by Ageu’s signing to be broken. But I’m not expecting much in the way of an overhaul. Not even along the lines of last summer as that was needed more. I do think that we’ll get new CB’s, I just have my doubts they’ll be automatic improvements on Halkett and Findlay and may be perceived to be players for the future. I expect the same with a backup keeper and maybe in attack as I won’t see Shankland being improved upon either. As I’ve said previously the only area I see possibility for significant improvement would be midfield. But I also think we’ll still be within certain parameters. And remember for Europe we’ll need a certain level of home grown players so that’ll need to be taken into account too. For instance if we were in Europe this season there may have been a few guys that would have had to miss out. Easier said than done to find home grown players from our academy, don’t think we will have any this summer meaning four guys miss out.
CMc Posted April 8 Posted April 8 10 minutes ago, CM Funk said: I’m not overthinking it. I just think others are possibly overestimating the rise in levels this summer will bring. We will absolutely move some ‘deadwood’ on but I’m not sure they’ll be replaced with massive improvements is all I’m saying. Improvements yes but I’m not expecting huge improvements is all. But I’m not talking about summer 2028 or 2030. I’m talking about this summer and all I’m saying is it’ll be incremental improvements in levels and money spent. Just like your USG template shows. They weren’t massively increasing their second summer. Again I’m not sayings behave never said it will be “dull”. I’m just saying I’m not expecting us to be making any signings suggesting we’re pulling up any trees. Yes as others have I’ve quoted have suggested I can foresee an increase in expenditure on transfer fees in particular. Maybe even see the record set by Ageu’s signing to be broken. But I’m not expecting much in the way of an overhaul. Not even along the lines of last summer as that was needed more. I do think that we’ll get new CB’s, I just have my doubts they’ll be automatic improvements on Halkett and Findlay and may be perceived to be players for the future. I expect the same with a backup keeper and maybe in attack as I won’t see Shankland being improved upon either. As I’ve said previously the only area I see possibility for significant improvement would be midfield. But I also think we’ll still be within certain parameters. And remember for Europe we’ll need a certain level of home grown players so that’ll need to be taken into account too. For instance if we were in Europe this season there may have been a few guys that would have had to miss out. You don’t think 6-8 minimum in and out counts as an overhaul? thats got to be 30% of the main squad. Two cbs, one of each fullback, two or three midfielders, two strikers, a winger on top of McPake is what I think we’ll see. Two expensive goalies going, three expensive midfielders yet to renew, two cbs likely out, two forwards likely out, one winger likely away. Plus Borg, McCart, Spittal, Dhanda who will go if we can sell them. Thats up to 14 players leaving before any shock ones.
RustyRightPeg Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Just now, CMc said: You don’t think 6-8 minimum in and out counts as an overhaul? thats got to be 30% of the main squad. Two cbs, one of each fullback, two or three midfielders, two strikers, a winger on top of McPake is what I think we’ll see. Two expensive goalies going, three expensive midfielders yet to renew, two cbs likely out, two forwards likely out, one winger likely away. Plus Borg, McCart, Spittal, Dhanda who will go if we can sell them. Thats up to 14 players leaving before any shock ones. The turnover will definitely be bigger than this past year, because we’ll actually be seeing people leave the club this time.
CMc Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 minute ago, RustyRightPeg said: The turnover will definitely be bigger than this past year, because we’ll actually be seeing people leave the club this time. I hadn’t even factored in likes of Neilson, Wilson,Forrester, Forrest Pollock, Nuieunhof. 20 outs is not impossible. thats mental.
boag1874 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 4 minutes ago, CM Funk said: But I’m not talking about summer 2028 or 2030. I’m talking about this summer and all I’m saying is it’ll be incremental improvements in levels and money spent. Just like your USG template shows. They weren’t massively increasing their second summer. I get your point & maybe misread you a bit with the quote. You are right that it'll be incremental improvements but their increase in spending came from their increase in income & they started with a lower budget than what we currently have so we're potentially further along than they were in year 2. If we do sell Braga plus a couple of others for substantial fees then we'll have a significantly higher budget to play with. I'm not expecting 10x the money we spent this season & matching the spend of the OF or anything but you can see USG regularly more than doubled their transfer spending from the previous season in the first few years once they started to make the money from sales. I don't think that means we'll see overhauls across the whole team because tbh it isn't urgently required - it just needs additional quality for now. Shanks, Halks, Schwolow, Findlay, Milne will all likely continue to make up the core of the team (and Magnusson might be in that group too) & that's a very good core as it is. I think the RB, CM & RW positions will have money spent on them though as well as striker depth & that'll bring massive upgrades if spent wisely. We need the sales to make it happen though.
RustyRightPeg Posted April 8 Posted April 8 6 minutes ago, CMc said: I hadn’t even factored in likes of Neilson, Wilson,Forrester, Forrest Pollock, Nuieunhof. 20 outs is not impossible. thats mental. I have a feeling Pollock is gonna play a part for us. McInnes likes him but yeah, there’s a shit load of deadwood/out of contract/sellable players that’ll go. It’s long overdue for some, and exciting.
CM Funk Posted April 8 Posted April 8 43 minutes ago, spacerjoe said: What level is Braga? Scottish Premiership currently. Beyond Forrest or McPake but as yet we don’t know how he’ll compete in Europe or a higher level. But do we honestly think this summer we’re signing a whole bunch of Braga’s? 41 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Have you paid any attention to the literal live case studies you have in front of your eyes in Como, USG and Brighton? USG have an English centre half they signed from Portsmouth as their captain playing and competing in the champions league. They’ve got a boy they signed from Accrington Stanley playing for them. Yea I have. They’re incremental not substantial increases every year. Which is my whole point.
Jambo61 Posted April 8 Posted April 8 1 hour ago, JimmyCant said: This Upgrades all over the park is where we should be thinking for the next few years of JTA. Can’t all be done at once obviously but we need to start at centre back and central midfield IMO Entire right hand side has been missing all year!
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