DxB Hearts Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Where on earth has £8m been quoted?! I’d be delighted if it was half of that right now….
boag1874 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Penrices left boot said: McInnes will play the players he feels is best regardless of age. Wilson isn't better than Shankland or Braga and Kabore offers something very different. Wilson isn't playing as he's been kept out by better and on form players, not because he's young. His methods are completely justified as well. Exactly. People need to chill out with this. He's 18, he's got all the time in the world to nail down a starting berth somewhere but at this moment he's not far enough along in his development to be getting regular games for a title challenging Hearts team. He offers us nothing that the senior pros ahead of him don't. See also with the people wanting Kabangu given more games, who does he play ahead of? Why would you drop an in form player who's helped us to the top of the league just for the sake of playing a squad guy? It makes no sense. Arguments around Kerjota or (when he's actually been fit) Borch not starting I understand because they have had players out of position starting ahead of them (although again, it's mostly worked so it's hard to really complain much) but our 3 main strikers are all amongst the leagues best for goals per minute & are ahead of Wilson & Kabangu for a legitimate reason. I swear some fans just invent reasons to be annoyed at Hearts sometimes - this season isn't about future planning it's about trying to win the league.
vegas-voss Posted February 2 Posted February 2 5 minutes ago, DxB Hearts said: Where on earth has £8m been quoted?! I’d be delighted if it was half of that right now…. Was on an Arsenal forum seemingly
Morgan Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) If the big-nosed diver from Lochend went for £6M, £8M seems fair enough for James. Edited February 2 by Morgan
dobmisterdobster Posted February 2 Posted February 2 10 minutes ago, boag1874 said: I swear some fans just invent reasons to be annoyed at Hearts sometimes - this season isn't about future planning it's about trying to win the league. That’s all football discourse is these days. Have you read Instagram or Facebook comments? Everyone just wants to be angry all the time and yell “game’s gone” It’s honestly exhausting.
boag1874 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 1 minute ago, dobmisterdobster said: That’s all football discourse is these days. Have you read Instagram or Facebook comments? Everyone just wants to be angry all the time and yell “game’s gone” It’s honestly exhausting. The reaction to the team lineups makes me laugh. "Why's x player playing?" "Where's y player"... ...maybe just trust the manager knows who to pick considering what he's done for us?
Dallas Green Posted February 2 Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, boag1874 said: The reaction to the team lineups makes me laugh. "Why's x player playing?" "Where's y player"... ...maybe just trust the manager knows who to pick considering what he's done for us? Twitter used to be the worst for it, no longer on it but I can imagine it's still just as bad
JamboBornNBred Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Spurs enquiring now as well according to the Evening News
Pasquale for King Posted February 2 Posted February 2 26 minutes ago, DxB Hearts said: Where on earth has £8m been quoted?! I’d be delighted if it was half of that right now…. It was a quote about Kyzi not Wilson
dobmisterdobster Posted February 2 Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, JamboBornNBred said: Spurs enquiring now as well according to the Evening News Let the bidding wars commence! 🤑🤑🤑
Turkishcap Posted February 2 Posted February 2 16 minutes ago, dobmisterdobster said: That’s all football discourse is these days. Have you read Instagram or Facebook comments? Everyone just wants to be angry all the time and yell “game’s gone” It’s honestly exhausting. Think the internet is made for negative souls.
NaturalOrder74 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 No offers under 20 million this late in January guys
Graham Thomson Posted February 2 Posted February 2 35 minutes ago, DxB Hearts said: Where on earth has £8m been quoted?! I’d be delighted if it was half of that right now…. Bowie was sold for almost £7 m Wilson is worth more than Bowie £10 m and they can have him ☺️
Section Q Posted February 2 Posted February 2 6 minutes ago, JamboBornNBred said: Spurs enquiring now as well according to the Evening News Sky saying the same.
pettigrewsstylist Posted February 2 Posted February 2 2 hours ago, GinRummy said: Not convinced this is a great deal for Hearts. If he goes to Arsenal on loan and doesn’t impress what then? Presumably we have no acceptable offers submitted, hes not going to play, and this is a way of improving him, at very least 🤷♂️ Not perfect, but maybe best option to maintain his profile, and try again in summer.
ford donald Posted February 2 Posted February 2 25 minutes ago, DC_92 said: "Significant" loan fee. Think it is a great move for him.
Taffin Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) 2 hours ago, GinRummy said: The statement was that this isn’t a good deal for Hearts. Great if he goes down and impresses but if he doesn’t we are potentially in a worse position than now. if he’s attracting a club of arsenals stature I seriously doubt whether that’s the only option. Just because we don’t know about other options doesn’t mean there aren’t any. But we're not in a worse position, he's not currently doing anything already. What's more likely to attract a big bid in summer: - an 18 year old who attracted Arsenal and didn't make the grade over 6 months - an 18 year old who didn't make the grade at Hearts in the SPFL over 6 months I'm fairly confident scenario 1 plays out better for Hearts than have him sitting here doing diddly squat. As I already agreed, a third option may be significantly better, if it appears Edit: I've not been following this afternoon so it looks as though a 3rd or more options have appeared...which may well not have done without Arsenal making their interest known. Edited February 2 by Taffin
Gundermann Posted February 2 Posted February 2 1 hour ago, DxB Hearts said: Where on earth has £8m been quoted?! I’d be delighted if it was half of that right now…. Professor K Bowie of Lochend School of Economics?
pettigrewsstylist Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Spurs now in mix is great for deal club can negotiate. Didnt realise English shutters take fingers off at 7pm. !!
GinRummy Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Taffin said: But we're not in a worse position, he's not currently doing anything already. What's more likely to attract a big bid in summer: - an 18 year old who attracted Arsenal and didn't make the grade over 6 months - an 18 year old who didn't make the grade at Hearts in the SPFL over 6 months I'm fairly confident scenario 1 plays out better for Hearts than have him sitting here doing diddly squat. As I already agreed, a third option may be significantly better, if it appears Edit: I've not been following this afternoon so it looks as though a 3rd or more options have appeared...which may well not have done without Arsenal making their interest known. I don’t think I’m making myself clear. Right now he has attracted interest from Newcastle, Arsenal and now Spurs. He isn’t staying at Hearts past summer. It’s not a case of he stays at Hearts or he never leaves. if he goes to Arsenal and is rejected after the loan then are bigger clubs still going to be after him? I have my doubts. Arsenal not willing to commit to anything past a 3 month loan is far from ideal. To the edit, I did say earlier Arsenal won’t be the only option. Edited February 2 by GinRummy
Seaside Dave Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Might start for spurs first team this weekend. Could be the difference in signing for which club.
LSC Posted February 2 Posted February 2 S15ter f15ter ripping us for “ asking for 8 million “ I haven’t seen anything remotely saying we’ve put any figure on him am I wrong ????
GinRummy Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Just now, LSC said: S15ter f15ter ripping us for “ asking for 8 million “ I haven’t seen anything remotely saying we’ve put any figure on him am I wrong ???? See how much they fuds are ripping us after next Tuesday.
Jocam2325 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 1 hour ago, Morgan said: If the big-nosed diver from Lochend went for £6M, £8M seems fair enough for James. No it doesn't really. It's fantasy nonsense
LewisR5-1 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, Seaside Dave said: Might start for spurs first team this weekend. Could be the difference in signing for which club. He will be playing for the 21s as Barry Anderson reports
Mikey1874 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, LSC said: S15ter f15ter ripping us for “ asking for 8 million “ I haven’t seen anything remotely saying we’ve put any figure on him am I wrong ???? Well would presume that would be discussed between Tottenham and Hearts. If they are committed to purchase.
Mikey1874 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, Seaside Dave said: Might start for spurs first team this weekend. Could be the difference in signing for which club. Bigger achievement keeping Tottenham in Premier League than helping Hearts win league.
dobmisterdobster Posted February 2 Posted February 2 18 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said: Spurs now in mix is great for deal club can negotiate. Didnt realise English shutters take fingers off at 7pm. !! Are loan deals more flexible than regular transfers?
kingantti1874 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 1 minute ago, Jocam2325 said: No it doesn't really. It's fantasy nonsense £25m for Engels, £6m for Bowie, £13m for chermiti. Sorry with the potential hard had those are exactly the kind of numbers we should be working towards either directly or via sell ons
Thunder and Lightning Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Spurs? Ffs, show some ambition. English hibs. 😂
dobmisterdobster Posted February 2 Posted February 2 4 minutes ago, Thunder and Lightning said: Spurs? Ffs, show some ambition. English hibs. 😂 One of the most valuable clubs in the world. They have plenty of money
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted February 2 Posted February 2 A 3 month loan with an option to buy is basically taking the p!$$. Kicking the tyres more like. Show us the money!!
Jocam2325 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 8 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: £25m for Engels, £6m for Bowie, £13m for chermiti. Sorry with the potential hard had those are exactly the kind of numbers we should be working towards either directly or via sell ons They are perhaps the numbers we should be working towards, whatever that means but I'm sorry, I'm not buying that we have a laddie worth that sort of money currently unable to get a sniff in our first tesm. Love to be proved wrong.
VivaObua Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) He'll replace the hibs striker in the u21s, 4 month trial for Wilson to show he's worth signing. Edited February 2 by VivaObua
HeartsCobra Posted February 2 Posted February 2 1 hour ago, dobmisterdobster said: That’s all football discourse is these days. Have you read Instagram or Facebook comments? Everyone just wants to be angry all the time and yell “game’s gone” It’s honestly exhausting. That’s why folk shouldn’t waster their time on social media.
jambo89 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Strange deal with it only being a loan. Suppose we have to trust JTA on this one.
Hømme Posted February 2 Posted February 2 18 minutes ago, Seaside Dave said: Might start for spurs first team this weekend. Could be the difference in signing for which club.
pettigrewsstylist Posted February 2 Posted February 2 T'internet reporting he is on way south and Spurs offer accepted, which is also loan deal but preferrable to club 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Alfie Conn Posted February 2 Posted February 2 16 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said: Bigger achievement keeping Tottenham in Premier League than helping Hearts win league. Hopefully he isn't cup tied, wouldn't want him to miss out on a CL winners medal.
Graham Thomson Posted February 2 Posted February 2 12 minutes ago, HeartsandonlyHearts said: A 3 month loan with an option to buy is basically taking the p!$$. Kicking the tyres more like. Show us the money!! Exactly.
Graham Thomson Posted February 2 Posted February 2 10 minutes ago, VivaObua said: He'll replace the hibs striker in the u21s, 4 month trial for Wilson to show he's worth signing. They buy him or leave him alone.
Taffin Posted February 2 Posted February 2 42 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I don’t think I’m making myself clear. Right now he has attracted interest from Newcastle, Arsenal and now Spurs. He isn’t staying at Hearts past summer. It’s not a case of he stays at Hearts or he never leaves. if he goes to Arsenal and is rejected after the loan then are bigger clubs still going to be after him? I have my doubts. Arsenal not willing to commit to anything past a 3 month loan is far from ideal. To the edit, I did say earlier Arsenal won’t be the only option. No I get what you're saying. Newcastle was rejected by all accounts. So in a binary choice of doing nowt at Hearts or Arsenal, it's better for us he does nowt there. I also said they may not be the only option, but that of the known options at that time I failed to see how doing nothing was better.
kingantti1874 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 1 minute ago, GBJambo said: No benefit to Hearts here if it’s a loan to buy. depends on tbe loan fee I suppose. But no I wouldn’t have thought it’s in our interest unless we can get one in
jr ewing Posted February 2 Posted February 2 2 minutes ago, GBJambo said: No benefit to Hearts here if it’s a loan to buy. Depending on the price 🤔
Jamboross Posted February 2 Posted February 2 (edited) 3 minutes ago, GBJambo said: No benefit to Hearts here if it’s a loan to buy. Of course there is. We get a loan fee, if they opt to buy him in the summer we score a good transfer fee, if they don't then he's had four months training in an elite set up, we get him back and we've been paid for the privilege. The chances of him getting any significant game time here in the coming months are slim and dependent on a couple more players getting injured so we're not really losing anything. The only potential downside is if Spurs opt not to sign him in the summer after having looked at him for half a season it might put some of his other big suitors off coming back in. Edited February 2 by Jamboross
Dallas Green Posted February 2 Posted February 2 3 minutes ago, GBJambo said: No benefit to Hearts here if it’s a loan to buy. It is if we are getting a loan fee for a player who isn't even getting a look in at the moment if it then leads to us getting a bigger fee in the summer.
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