The Hogfather Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Aberdeen defender is being referred to the SFA by Livingston for an alleged racist remark to Jeremy Bokila. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c3wzl2lvzq5o
August Landmesser Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Aha, hence the ruckus. I did wonder, as Bokila's reaction seemed excessive for a physical tussle. Hopefully it wasn't a racist remark, and it's a misunderstanding. But if he did make a racist remark, I hope the book is thrown at him, and his next shite is a hedgehog
Serge Pizzorno Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Really hope it’s just an awful misunderstanding, although sadly with the state of the world, our social media and politics it would not sadly not be surprising in this day and age
jambo1975 Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Shinnie's reaction after the red cards is up there with one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen watching football. Taking his armband off and ripping in his mouth like a petulant toddler. What a tool of a man.
ELITHEDUG Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Was thinking that at the time I saw it that it must have been a racist remark.
...a bit disco Posted January 24 Posted January 24 Bokila was in tears in the dressing room, according to Martindale.
Barney bulge Posted January 24 Posted January 24 22 minutes ago, jambo1975 said: Shinnie's reaction after the red cards is up there with one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen watching football. Taking his armband off and ripping in his mouth like a petulant toddler. What a tool of a man. He’s unbelievable. how he gets away with it !!! as a referee you should go in to the changing room before the game and say hey dick heed if you come within 4 feet of me with your greeting face at any point in the game I’m booking you.Do it again and your off. some of these refs need to take a stance. one thing getting decisions wrong. But constantly putting up with that could be dealt with fairly easily if they had the balls !!!!
BigStein Posted January 24 Posted January 24 1 minute ago, Barney bulge said: He’s unbelievable. how he gets away with it !!! as a referee you should go in to the changing room before the game and say hey dick heed if you come within 4 feet of me with your greeting face at any point in the game I’m booking you.Do it again and your off. some of these refs need to take a stance. one thing getting decisions wrong. But constantly putting up with that could be dealt with fairly easily if they had the balls !!!! If only
corryjambo Posted January 24 Posted January 24 16 minutes ago, Barney bulge said: He’s unbelievable. how he gets away with it !!! as a referee you should go in to the changing room before the game and say hey dick heed if you come within 4 feet of me with your greeting face at any point in the game I’m booking you.Do it again and your off. some of these refs need to take a stance. one thing getting decisions wrong. But constantly putting up with that could be dealt with fairly easily if they had the balls !!!! He wouldn't get within four feet of him with the size of his hooter.
Jambotommy Posted January 25 Posted January 25 48 minutes ago, corryjambo said: He wouldn't get within four feet of him with the size of his hooter. Someone asked me if he was an Arab... I said that of course not, he plays for the dandy dons...
Jack Torrance Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Hopefully a misunderstanding. Racism is not ok. Call it out.
Pasquale for King Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Scummy ******* making a racist remark, he’s a pretty crap player also.
Sherbet Posted January 25 Posted January 25 4 hours ago, August Landmesser said: Aha, hence the ruckus. I did wonder, as Bokila's reaction seemed excessive for a physical tussle. Hopefully it wasn't a racist remark, and it's a misunderstanding. But if he did make a racist remark, I hope the book is thrown at him, and his next shite is a hedgehog And if its not will they throw the book at bokila for his claim?
OTT Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Just now, Sherbet said: And if its not will they throw the book at bokila for his claim? Suspect this looks like a he said/he said kind of situation. Don’t really know what to think (and it doesn’t effect us thank ****), racism allegations have huge ramifications, but if Martindale isn’t exaggerating and he genuinely was crying after the game, it’s difficult to dismiss that either. If he’s said something racist then the book should be chucked at him. Feel for the Livi guy, being sent off as well is ridiculous, and from Martindales interview the ref made a rip roaring ***** out of every facet of the game.
Sherbet Posted January 25 Posted January 25 19 minutes ago, OTT said: Suspect this looks like a he said/he said kind of situation. Don’t really know what to think (and it doesn’t effect us thank ****), racism allegations have huge ramifications, but if Martindale isn’t exaggerating and he genuinely was crying after the game, it’s difficult to dismiss that either. If he’s said something racist then the book should be chucked at him. Feel for the Livi guy, being sent off as well is ridiculous, and from Martindales interview the ref made a rip roaring ***** out of every facet of the game. There will be all kinds of verbals between players in every game, at what point is it deemed unacceptable. Was bokila in tears for being sent off, or for the remark. If its for the remark, what was said is unimagineable
DarthVodka Posted January 25 Posted January 25 4 hours ago, OTT said: Suspect this looks like a he said/he said kind of situation. Don’t really know what to think (and it doesn’t effect us thank ****), racism allegations have huge ramifications, but if Martindale isn’t exaggerating and he genuinely was crying after the game, it’s difficult to dismiss that either. If he’s said something racist then the book should be chucked at him. Feel for the Livi guy, being sent off as well is ridiculous, and from Martindales interview the ref made a rip roaring ***** out of every facet of the game. I was actually at this game. livi were really poor, was hoping McGowan and tait would do a job on Aberdeen. Something definitely happened between the players as the Livi lad reacted to something out of the blue and he wasnt happy at all. shinnie is a pleb, got booked in the aftermath and kept going on after that. I would have sent him off. Martindale was right about the ref, lost the game from very early on and made a total arse of it.
joondalupjambo Posted January 25 Posted January 25 There were enough players around but was the linesman and/or the 4th official when Milne allegedly said a racist remark ? The players can say one thing, and try to cover it up but if either of the officials heard a racist remark then Milne is done.
Keep the Heid Posted January 25 Posted January 25 9 hours ago, corryjambo said: He wouldn't get within four feet of him with the size of his hooter. Careful you could get done for Noseism
ginger jambo98 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, Keep the Heid said: Careful you could get done for Noseism He can smell a Sunday Roast on a Thursday with that schnozzle !
boag1874 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 5 hours ago, Sherbet said: There will be all kinds of verbals between players in every game, at what point is it deemed unacceptable. Was bokila in tears for being sent off, or for the remark. If its for the remark, what was said is unimagineable There’s a difference between a bit of verbals & racist comments. Racism is absolutely miles over the line of what’s acceptable, it’s just vile.
Legend Claws Posted January 25 Posted January 25 10 hours ago, ELITHEDUG said: Was thinking that at the time I saw it that it must have been a racist remark. 10 hours ago, jambo1975 said: Shinnie's reaction after the red cards is up there with one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen watching football. Taking his armband off and ripping in his mouth like a petulant toddler. What a tool of a man. That was cringe inducing
The Treasurer Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Whatever happened I don't think Martindale is the kind of person who would make up something like that.
JamboGlen Posted January 25 Posted January 25 16 minutes ago, The Treasurer said: Whatever happened I don't think Martindale is the kind of person who would make up something like that. Agree and I don't think the Livi lad would have reacted like that for nothing.
Andrew Gilbert Wauchope Posted January 25 Posted January 25 10 hours ago, jambo1975 said: Shinnie's reaction after the red cards is up there with one of the most embarrassing things I've ever seen watching football. Taking his armband off and ripping in his mouth like a petulant toddler. What a tool of a man. 10 hours ago, Barney bulge said: He’s unbelievable. how he gets away with it !!! as a referee you should go in to the changing room before the game and say hey dick heed if you come within 4 feet of me with your greeting face at any point in the game I’m booking you.Do it again and your off. some of these refs need to take a stance. one thing getting decisions wrong. But constantly putting up with that could be dealt with fairly easily if they had the balls !!!! For those of us old enough to remember Willie Miller as a player, there's no surprise in this kind of behaviour from an Aberdeen captain.
Carl Fredrickson Posted January 25 Posted January 25 It seemed from what I saw to just kick off for no reason. Saw social media posts by sheep fans saying the Livi player was involved in a similar incident a few years ago where he accused someone of making a racist comment but wouldnt name the player. He may have had his own reasons for not naming him. I think unless someone has heard it and is willing to back either player up, it will be hard to prove one way or the other. If there is evidence one way or the other - the player should be banned for at least a few games. I remember Larry Kingston falsely accused a ref (v Aberdeen?) of being racists and it was proved to be a false claim.
August Landmesser Posted January 25 Posted January 25 6 hours ago, Sherbet said: And if its not will they throw the book at bokila for his claim? why would they?
davemclaren Posted January 25 Posted January 25 30 minutes ago, Andrew Gilbert Wauchope said: For those of us old enough to remember Willie Miller as a player, there's no surprise in this kind of behaviour from an Aberdeen captain. Indeed, Willie 'the referee' Miller.
mally009 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Don't really want to come on here and defend an Aberdeen player but come on - to break down in tears because of name calling. My advice to the Livi boy is to man up and start preparing for next week. Does anyone remember the saying 'Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me'
davemclaren Posted January 25 Posted January 25 2 minutes ago, mally009 said: Don't really want to come on here and defend an Aberdeen player but come on - to break down in tears because of name calling. My advice to the Livi boy is to man up and start preparing for next week. Does anyone remember the saying 'Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me' Is that you Nigel?
151 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 9 hours ago, Pasquale for King said: Scummy ******* making a racist remark, he’s a pretty crap player also. That's what I orginally thought the thread would be about tbh... But a terrible player and a racist. What a guy to have around.
Le Chat Posted January 25 Posted January 25 33 minutes ago, Carl Fredrickson said: I remember Larry Kingston falsely accused a ref (v Aberdeen?) of being racists and it was proved to be a false claim. Yep, and it turned out that the ref was married to a girl from Zimbabwe There was also that time Stephen Robinson reported that people in Section N were singing "We hate the blacks" during the warm up, when what they were actually singing was "We hate Kickback"
davemclaren Posted January 25 Posted January 25 4 minutes ago, Le Chat said: Yep, and it turned out that the ref was married to a girl from Zimbabwe There was also that time Stephen Robinson reported that people in Section N were singing "We hate the blacks" during the warm up, when what they were actually singing was "We hate Kickback" I'd forgotten about that. Thankfully the law was changed to make anti-kickback chats illegal at matches soon after. 🥸
Dido of Consequence Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 minute ago, davemclaren said: Is that you Nigel? 😆
Percival King Posted January 25 Posted January 25 17 minutes ago, mally009 said: Don't really want to come on here and defend an Aberdeen player but come on - to break down in tears because of name calling. My advice to the Livi boy is to man up and start preparing for next week. Does anyone remember the saying 'Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me' That was definitely a well worn saying and I grew up in 70s when pretty much any name calling was acceptable, I got called names that were bad and I called people names that I'm embarrassed about now and I'm glad we've moved on from that and folk get called out if they cross the line (that probably didn't exist in the 70s). But who decides where that line is?
Carl Fredrickson Posted January 25 Posted January 25 8 minutes ago, Le Chat said: Yep, and it turned out that the ref was married to a girl from Zimbabwe There was also that time Stephen Robinson reported that people in Section N were singing "We hate the blacks" during the warm up, when what they were actually singing was "We hate Kickback" I didnt know about the Stephen Robinson one - what did JKB do to upset Section N?
Sherbet Posted January 25 Posted January 25 46 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: why would they? If milne did nothing wrong as bokila claims
Le Chat Posted January 25 Posted January 25 7 minutes ago, Carl Fredrickson said: I didnt know about the Stephen Robinson one - what did JKB do to upset Section N? It was back in the days of flag debates and people getting banned for having more 'extreme' views. It was seen as being too right-on for some. It used to get sung quite a lot, mainly at away games right enough, back in the day.
Morgan Posted January 25 Posted January 25 53 minutes ago, August Landmesser said: why would they? For making a false allegation, I'd imagine.
Brick Tamland Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 hour ago, ginger jambo98 said: He can smell a Sunday Roast on a Thursday with that schnozzle !
jamboozy Posted January 25 Posted January 25 It doesn’t matter how much progress we make as a species it can only take one stupid incident to make me feel sadly ashamed, be it a true claim or a false one it still highlights the effects of racism on society.
Hømme Posted January 25 Posted January 25 44 minutes ago, mally009 said: Don't really want to come on here and defend an Aberdeen player but come on - to break down in tears because of name calling. My advice to the Livi boy is to man up and start preparing for next week. Does anyone remember the saying 'Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me' I'd imagine any tears are probably a mix of what was said and the fact he got sent off for it. If something did happen then guy will probably be feeling a huge injustice. Apart from that, your post is shite.
Carl Fredrickson Posted January 25 Posted January 25 30 minutes ago, Le Chat said: It was back in the days of flag debates and people getting banned for having more 'extreme' views. It was seen as being too right-on for some. It used to get sung quite a lot, mainly at away games right enough, back in the day. Cheers - I have always try to avoid such debates.
Seymour M Hersh Posted January 25 Posted January 25 12 hours ago, Barney bulge said: hey dick heed if you come within 4 feet of me with your greeting face at any point With the size of Shinnie's nose he might have to make it 5 or 6 feet.
Pasquale for King Posted January 25 Posted January 25 1 hour ago, 151 said: That's what I orginally thought the thread would be about tbh... But a terrible player and a racist. What a guy to have around. Double whammy, his Captain is of a similar ilk.
Sow Easy Posted January 25 Posted January 25 2 hours ago, mally009 said: Don't really want to come on here and defend an Aberdeen player but come on - to break down in tears because of name calling. My advice to the Livi boy is to man up and start preparing for next week. Does anyone remember the saying 'Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me' Spotted the racist.
bloomtime Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Be usual head in hands gfa. Sweep. They will deny it as will Cormack but sheep and gfa will put out statement looked into it but no evidence move on.
RudiSkacelsLeftPeg Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Aberdeen are so shite it’s funny. Never liked that Milne ever since he took one of our players out at Tynecastle after just coming on. Should have been a red. Think it was Beni but can’t remember.
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 25 Posted January 25 One mans word against another, never find out
HMFC 86 Posted January 25 Posted January 25 Jack Milne is an utter thug, got away without any punishment in game v us at Tynecastle last year. Should have been a red for the foul on Beni. Hope he gets the book thrown at him for this
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