Willie Collum's latest lies

[19/05/2012]

15 minutes ago, neilnunb said:

 

 

He says he goes into in a dangerous manner but hey, it's ok cos he caught the United boy's boot so it's not endangering him. 🤣 wtf. He is just making shite up every time.

Mental. The other one I liked was the ref giving Rangers a penalty at Pittodrie for a slight brush off a knee then the same ref when Motherwell player went down at Ibrox screaming “no way minimal contact”

[jackal]

For our one of you replace Schwolow with any defender and move the challenge to near the corner flag, What's the outcome, is it still a foul to the attacker.

Change Butland for any other teams player and change Anderson for any OF player and what the outcome, is it still no red.

[Philfigo]

14 minutes ago, GYL said:

The 2 explanations need to be edited together and presented to the SFA for an explanation....tell us why....every non OF fan should be all over these contradictions

Hopefully someone will do this, absolute joke! He has just changed the rules depending on if the old firm are involved. 

[Doc Rob]

35 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

So have we abandoned Collum being a Celtic fan these days and progressed him to just general OF bias? I lose track.

The problem with our referees isn’t generally that they favour one particular side (Beaton the potential exception). It’s that they have all grown up in and around the toxic Glasgow fishbowl, weaned on the belief that Celtic and Rangers* operate on a higher plane of existence. Whether it’s conscious or unconscious, they apply the rules to the ugly sisters differently from everyone else. We know this for a fact, after David Syme’s post-retirement admission that OF derbies need to be ‘handled differently’ with fewer cards shown. Also the fact that they all live locally and are likely scared of reprisals.

[The Treasurer]

34 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

But they’re completely incomparable. It’s like asking why Rangers got a penalty for handball but we didn’t for a trip?

 

Edit: I’ve probably opened a GFA conspiracist can of worms here. 

That can has been wide open for years

[Mikey1874]

8 minutes ago, jackal said:

For our one of you replace Schwolow with any defender and move the challenge to near the corner flag, What's the outcome, is it still a foul to the attacker.

Change Butland for any other teams player and change Anderson for any OF player and what the outcome, is it still no red.

 

Yeah

 

It wouldn't be a goal scoring opportunity then either 

[Mikey1874]

6 minutes ago, Doc Rob said:

The problem with our referees isn’t generally that they favour one particular side (Beaton the potential exception). It’s that they have all grown up in and around the toxic Glasgow fishbowl, weaned on the belief that Celtic and Rangers* operate on a higher plane of existence. Whether it’s conscious or unconscious, they apply the rules to the ugly sisters differently from everyone else. We know this for a fact, after David Syme’s post-retirement admission that OF derbies need to be ‘handled differently’ with fewer cards shown. Also the fact that they all live locally and are likely scared of reprisals.

 

And that their safety and that of their families is at risk if they do anything against Celtic or Rangers.

[tcjambo]

1 hour ago, Bill Sikes said:

Collum is clearly just a puppet 

Happily accepting a huge wage for doing the square root of diddly squit.

 

VAR has clearly gone backwards under his tenure. 

Pretty much what most people thought when he was given the job. 

 

He enjoyed being the villain when he had a whistle and any criticism of him or his charges is like water of a ducks back. 

 

Him and his cronies are making the league title a 3 way fight so he'll probably get a pay rise for next season.

 

Corruption is the winner. 

The Gudetti penalty should have finished him as a match official. Possibly the worst ever penalty decision given in Scottush football.

[jackal]

4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

Yeah

 

It wouldn't be a goal scoring opportunity then either 

Obviously, but would it be a foul and for who.

[jackal]

4 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

And that their safety and that of their families is at risk if they do anything against Celtic or Rangers.

Easiest solution for this is have no officials from the Glasgow area.

[siegementality]

1 hour ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Hearing his review of the Schwolow sending off, it is interesting to hear his complete reversal of the criteria that he used to justify the non red card of Butland where he said Tavernier was covering goal to now saying when a keeper makes a challenge out the box and makes contact wth forward player they will look to issue a red card. He also states that just because player covering back, he can't use hands, no shit Sherlock, therefore it doesn't really matter that much.

 

The guy is an out and out liar who makes things up to justify whatever shite decision is made. 

A covering player not being able to use his hands didn’t prevent Harry Milne from preventing a goal against Falkirk 🤷‍♂️

[Nelly Terraces]

Referees in Scotland. Willie Collum is the Head of them.

 

Let that sink in. No wonder they're all utterly shite with a lying god bothering imbecile in charge of them.

[Watt-Zeefuik]

Schwolow's was a red. Both players were onside.

 

Butland's should have been a red.

[Malinga the Swinga]

1 hour ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

You would need to be really pedantic and petty to bother about that decision and maybe looking to see if he discussed the Sevco dive to get penalty v Aberdeen.

Luckily, I am both petty and pedantic and will record whole programme from tomorrow when it is on. I will let you know if the weasel faced ***** mentioned it.

 

Found the programme online. As others have said, he states that it is a reckless tackle and player out of control at start of tackle but clear yellow as when he hits him, it's on boot. Interestingly, he also states watching it on real time it looks like a red but VAR shows yellow. Why then did the referee not give the red? A question we won't know because it wasn't asked. What we did hear though was the ref screaming out yellow within a fraction of a second which given he saw it in real time seems strange 

Again, Collum says Sevco penalty clearly correct against Aberdeen, no question about it as there is contact. 

Motherwell one he says with the pictures you can't guarantee that there was contact on the pictures they have therefore no point on going against ref as he wouldn't see anything new. I'd argue that in case of Beni's red card v St Mirren, the referee saw the exact same tackle as he did in real time but VAR did intervene and ask him to review film. Now it was red imo, but Clancy wasn't obstructed during game therefore it's subjective by VAR to disagree and not factual.

It only confirms what everyone knew 

If Sevco/Celtic are attacking, ref default position is to give penalty and VAR evidence needs to be 100% for decision to overrule.

If Sevco/Celtic defending, then ref default is to not give penalty and VAR evidence must be 100% to even get ref to have another look.

Sane goes for challenges by their players, give yellow and wait for VAR to dare to change whereas challenge on their players is a red onfield.

Edited January 16 by Malinga the Swinga

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

1 hour ago, davie1980 said:

 

Why?

Same reason Butlands was

[OTT]

8 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

Schwolow's was a red. Both players were onside.

 

Butland's should have been a red.

 

Yep. 

 

Can take Alex's on the chin, because we'd have been screaming for it at the other end. But yet again we're in this ridiculous position of looking at a similar incident and wondering how the OF player skirts by scot free... can argue semantics, but the reality is he should have walked and by not it strengths the POV that the officials are ****ing well at it. 

[Philfigo]

Us V Dundee they don’t even check the initial offside from the kick from the goalkeeper! Farce 

[Malinga the Swinga]

10 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

Schwolow's was a red. Both players were onside.

 

Butland's should have been a red.

But it wasn't because different criteria used to assist Butland. The player behind ball excuse can't be used on one occasion and not on another but it has been. When I say can't, I mean it shouldn't be used if consistency and fairness is applied but this is Scotland and that, we all know, is not the case.

[Carter]

1 hour ago, hughesie27 said:

It was a red card though.

It was. 

[Malinga the Swinga]

15 minutes ago, siegementality said:

A covering player not being able to use his hands didn’t prevent Harry Milne from preventing a goal against Falkirk 🤷‍♂️

Something that Collum himself recognised on this programme when they decision discussed. 

Changing his mind comes easy to Mr Collum as does lying.

[DS98]

1 hour ago, HMFC 86 said:

As you would expect he supported the decision of a yellow card, all on the basis of the impact of the Celtic players contact on the opponents boot. He deliberately didn’t focus on the speed of the tackle, that the player was off the ground and out of control, in a scissor action. The aim of the game for Willie is these sessions is to argue black is white, and white is black, and that the officials and VAR got it right

 

1 hour ago, 19/05/2012 said:

How can he justify that Araujo tackle as a yellow 🤣 Any other team in the league he’s on that show saying it should have been a red. He actually says that he doesn’t endanger the safety of the Dundee Utd player 

 

53 minutes ago, neilnunb said:

 

 

He says he goes into in a dangerous manner but hey, it's ok cos he caught the United boy's boot so it's not endangering him. 🤣 wtf. He is just making shite up every time.

It’s embarrassing. 
 

Araujo came in at speed, off the ground, studs up but it’s all ok because he luckily ‘caught the top of his foot’.

 

If it was a millisecond earlier he would’ve snapped the boys legs clean in two. 
 

How he can stand there with a straight face is impressive tbf. 

[We_are_the_Hearts]

1 minute ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Something that Collum himself recognised on this programme when they decision discussed. 

Changing his mind comes easy to Mr Collum as does lying.

Yip lying cheating *****. Astounding that some of our fans can’t see that. 

[DS98]

25 minutes ago, tcjambo said:

The Gudetti penalty should have finished him as a match official. Possibly the worst ever penalty decision given in Scottush football.

Gudetti was cleared of diving in the aftermath too. 
 

If anyone ever needed evidence of how bent the game is up here, they just need to look at that. 

[FarmerTweedy]

1 hour ago, hughesie27 said:

It was a red card though.

It was, but it shouldn't have been. 

[John Findlay]

Apart from the non award of a penalty to Livingston at Ibrox.

It would appear every decision involving the Glasgow Two has been correct. Whether given by the on field official, or after a VAR review.

How very coincidental and convenient.

[HMFC01]

Minimal contact for a penalty makes a return.  They (VAR) went through that Motherwell penalty review like the end of a benny hill episode.  Not clear enough 😂 

 

The dogso decision was halted a touch early when you look back.   Didn't give McCart the benefit of any doubt if he would cover the goalkeeper.  I think McCart can reach it.

 

The interpretations and intention to let referee decide , which is fair , is just pointing towards we'll decide what goes not you.  They can certainly decide who wins games.  Not looking forward to how they decide key matches.  

 

 

[Deevers]

1 hour ago, hughesie27 said:

It was a red card though.

Butlands was too, but for some strange unbelievable reason it didn’t happen and Collum presented pure pish to justify it. It’s just another example of the cheating that permeates the SFA. Nothing changes until this entire cabal is swept away.

[Philfigo]

Make no mistake we are up against blatant bias, they want us no where near winning the league! The fact this program shows heavily Rangers and Celtic games time and time again but has clarified/rubber stamped every decision that has been awarded in favour of them tells the story. On Wednesday night vs St Mirren we all witnessed what the next few weeks will be like VAR check for anything that went into the Hearts box trying to find a helping hand that would benefit the old firm. 

[Carter]

36 minutes ago, tcjambo said:

The Gudetti penalty should have finished him as a match official. Possibly the worst ever penalty decision given in Scottush football.

That was the one where Brad McKay was adjudged to have brought him down despite there being no contact? That was the game where he sent Gomis off iirc when it wasn't even a foul. 

 

The officials circuit is absolutely polluted with Hun *******s. Always has been. The most overt and shameless current examples are Dickinson and that fat fud Beaton. But Collum is unquestionably a Celtic rat. 

[Tiro]

2 hours ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

Did he say why the sellik players wasn't given a red v Utd?

Only made contact with the boot and there was insuficient force to warrant a red card.  He failed to mention that the player was not in control and could have severely injured his opponent. The comparison of the Motherwell penalty claim against Rangers and the penalty, Rangers got against Aberdeen, was another Grimm Fairytale. Shinnie makes clear contact therefore a penalty itk Rangers is the correct decision. On the Motherwell claim it appears that, from the canera angles reviewed , if there was any contact it was minimal and certainly not enough to bring the player down. He then said that post match footage appeared which did seem to show a trip. Only in Scotland.

[campbell]

45 minutes ago, DS98 said:

 

 

It’s embarrassing. 
 

Araujo came in at speed, off the ground, studs up but it’s all ok because he luckily ‘caught the top of his foot’.

 

If it was a millisecond earlier he would’ve snapped the boys legs clean in two. 
 

How he can stand there with a straight face is impressive tbf. 

I can’t stand him or 99% of Scottish refs but I think you’re wrong with this one! Yes he’s come in at speed, not a criteria however for judging a tackle, he’s not at any point off the ground, it’s not a scissors like tackle as someone else suggested, his studs are up but make no contact with the player at all, it’s his heel that catches the top of the boys boot! It’s a clear yellow card for a reckless challenge. you can’t be sending played off cause they might have injured someone, every tackle might injure someone 

[campbell]

1 minute ago, Tiro said:

Only made contact with the boot and there was insuficient force to warrant a red card.  He failed to mention that the player was not in control and could have severely injured his opponent. The comparison of the Motherwell penalty claim against Rangers and the penalty, Rangers got against Aberdeen, was another Grimm Fairytale. Shinnie makes clear contact therefore a penalty itk Rangers is the correct decision. On the Motherwell claim it appears that, from the canera angles reviewed , if there was any contact it was minimal and certainly not enough to bring the player down. He then said that post match footage appeared which did seem to show a trip. Only in Scotland.

While I would tend to lean towards it being a penalty, you can’t really blame the VAR here the angles they had on the camera basically maybe it impossible for them to suggest an infield review, the best angle they did have was the same angle as the ref who had already said minimal contact & cleared it. So the threshold wasn’t met for them suggest an on field review! Not a lot the can do about other angles after the game either, like that’s their fault. 

[Gorgierools]

Why is this nonsense even given any credence?. It’s a medium for incompetents to be afforded an excuse for their ineptitude by their very own guru of stupidity. In short, useless ***** having their useless ***** of a boss making excuses for them to stop him looking like the useless cant he actually is.

[Graham Thomson]

2 hours ago, hughesie27 said:

It was a red card though.

It was a red card. 

But it shouldn't have been 

Edited January 16 by Graham Thomson

[gasbottle2]

1 hour ago, tcjambo said:

The Gudetti penalty should have finished him as a match official. Possibly the worst ever penalty decision given in Scottush football.

Without a doubt. I watched that game in a pub in London….there was 3 tim fans pissing themselves laughing. Me and my big London mate went over to them and asked what was soooooooo funnny. They instantly clamped up.  Absolute shocker of a decision but just one of a thousand against the ugliest over my lifetime. 

[Gambo]

Not checking the flick on for offside needs addressed. Wether he was off or on is irrelevant, not checking it needs called out.

[The Treasurer]

1 hour ago, Philfigo said:

Us V Dundee they don’t even check the initial offside from the kick from the goalkeeper! Farce 

Similar to the Haring one at Ibrox, go back a few more seconds and Vargas is clearly fouled in the attacking half, but VAR chose not to go back to the start of the move 

[Jambof3tornado]

1 hour ago, Philfigo said:

Hopefully someone will do this, absolute joke! He has just changed the rules depending on if the old firm are involved. 

Which sums up why var cannot work in Scotland, the corrupt officials using it cannot even follow set rules/guidelines!!!!

[HeartsandonlyHearts]

2 hours ago, OTT said:

See as well, look at the Motherwell penalty, VAR playing silly beggers not slowing it down, and pretending there are no angles, meanwhile the Aberdeen penalty they're slowing it down and trying to find contact. 

 

Being cheated before our very ****ing eyes, and paying for the pleasure. 

Yeah but according to some weirdos on here, seeing is NOT believing.

We’re conspiracy theorists or some such thing.

 

[Jambof3tornado]

11 minutes ago, Gambo said:

Not checking the flick on for offside needs addressed. Wether he was off or on is irrelevant, not checking it needs called out.

Absolutely the club should be asking but no doubt lack of camera angles will be the excuse.

 

Should really question why the celtic boy v utd isn't a red as well since var had plenty to say about beni(which is defo a red!).

[davemclaren]

1 hour ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

Schwolow's was a red. Both players were onside.

 

Butland's should have been a red.

yip. 

[Malinga the Swinga]

26 minutes ago, campbell said:

While I would tend to lean towards it being a penalty, you can’t really blame the VAR here the angles they had on the camera basically maybe it impossible for them to suggest an infield review, the best angle they did have was the same angle as the ref who had already said minimal contact & cleared it. So the threshold wasn’t met for them suggest an on field review! Not a lot the can do about other angles after the game either, like that’s their fault. 

So the ref immediately spotted Aberdeen player brushing into Sevco diver and gave penalty whilst the referee in Motherwell game also spotted tackle but decided that insufficient force to justify penalty. Isn't it amazing that refs could tell difference in what happened instantly and Sevco benefitted both times.

Isn't it amazing that ref didn't send off Butland because he had cover. Isn't it amazing ref didn't give Kilmarnock a penalty against Sevco because the cross hadn't come over when guy hauled down.

Isn't it amazing how Livi never got a penalty against Sevco when defender handled the ball despite ref and VAR both seeing incident.

 

Isn't it amazing how Dundee Utd denied penalty v Sevco for handball as, well he had Severe top on, and Sevco awarded penalty in 8th minute of stoppage time for slightest touch in box.

 

Isn't it amazing how Celtic get penalty v Kilmarnock in last seconds for a deflection going miles wide for handball yet Hearts do not get penalty against Kilmarnock for handball despite it being clear.

Isn't it amazing how Celtic never get red cards in domestic football yet in Europe do.

Isn't it amazing how referees can instantly judge where tackles by Celtic players land and are never questioned by VAR yet Killie players, Hearts players and others are not so fortunate.

 

Almost as if Sevco/Celtic players refereed differently to the rest.

 

 

[Bill Sikes]

This is exactly how Collum and his cronies operate, its been the same before the cheating little weasel as well.

 

I actually think they like a few big decisions highlighted and a bit of controversy surrounding decisions, it allows them to blatantly allow or disallow all the sneaky stuff that happens. 

No Red cards if you wear a hooped shirt, extra time that doesn't exist, Beatons stop start style of refereeing when Hearts are involved. Its an endless list of bizarre achievements tbh.

 

Cheats the lot of them. 

[bloomtime]

3 hours ago, OTT said:

 

Yes, but the Butland one wasn't given. 

 

The issue is that there appears to be two different sets of rules being applied. 

Well they did admit years ago they referee the bigots differently.

[Japan Jambo]

2 hours ago, Doc Rob said:

The problem with our referees isn’t generally that they favour one particular side (Beaton the potential exception). It’s that they have all grown up in and around the toxic Glasgow fishbowl, weaned on the belief that Celtic and Rangers* operate on a higher plane of existence. Whether it’s conscious or unconscious, they apply the rules to the ugly sisters differently from everyone else. We know this for a fact, after David Syme’s post-retirement admission that OF derbies need to be ‘handled differently’ with fewer cards shown. Also the fact that they all live locally and are likely scared of reprisals.

Think there is more than Beaton but this rings pretty true to me.

[Japan Jambo]

1 hour ago, John Findlay said:

Apart from the non award of a penalty to Livingston at Ibrox.

It would appear every decision involving the Glasgow Two has been correct. Whether given by the on field official, or after a VAR review.

How very coincidental and convenient.

wouldn’t want the natives getting restless.

[campbell]

14 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

So the ref immediately spotted Aberdeen player brushing into Sevco diver and gave penalty whilst the referee in Motherwell game also spotted tackle but decided that insufficient force to justify penalty. Isn't it amazing that refs could tell difference in what happened instantly and Sevco benefitted both times.

Isn't it amazing that ref didn't send off Butland because he had cover. Isn't it amazing ref didn't give Kilmarnock a penalty against Sevco because the cross hadn't come over when guy hauled down.

Isn't it amazing how Livi never got a penalty against Sevco when defender handled the ball despite ref and VAR both seeing incident.

 

Isn't it amazing how Dundee Utd denied penalty v Sevco for handball as, well he had Severe top on, and Sevco awarded penalty in 8th minute of stoppage time for slightest touch in box.

 

Isn't it amazing how Celtic get penalty v Kilmarnock in last seconds for a deflection going miles wide for handball yet Hearts do not get penalty against Kilmarnock for handball despite it being clear.

Isn't it amazing how Celtic never get red cards in domestic football yet in Europe do.

Isn't it amazing how referees can instantly judge where tackles by Celtic players land and are never questioned by VAR yet Killie players, Hearts players and others are not so fortunate.

 

Almost as if Sevco/Celtic players refereed differently to the rest.

 

 

 

Penalties are subjective, both had about the same level of contact for me, but clearly one ref seen it differently from the other & there wasn’t enough footage for VAR to get involved to review the Motherwell one or it might have been given as a penalty 

 

he didn’t send of Butland cause it wasn’t serious foul play or DOGSO 

 

the Killie penalty claim, the ball was miles away from them, there is zero impact on the play you’d be fuming if that’s given against hearts 

 

the livi one is a penalty no arguments there 

 

Rangers handball doesn’t meet the criteria his hand is down by his side in a natural position

 

the penalty is again subjective ref thinks there is enough contact probably the same amount is the other 3 

 

Celtic penalty is wrong no doubt about it hearts penalty claim is never penalty he heads it into his own hand which is in a natural position for the motion he was doing

 

you say hearts players are not so fortune with tackles , you remember Beni was only given a yellow the other night right, probably one of the worst tackles we’ve seen this season in terms of where her hit the boy! 
 

 

while you will most likely disagree with all I’ve written can I also remind you of the below decisions that have very much gone in our favour this season 

 

 

 

.Shankland handball at Ibrox that lead to a goal

. foul given that was soft as shit at Ibrox  

.St Mirren goal disallowed for nothing 

.goal from a free kick taken from the wrong place against Dundee 

 

 

 

 

[Seymour M Hersh]

These weejie *******s in black nauseate me. They ruin football every ****ing week. 

[sac]

Listen guys, before you get into the semantics of he did this or that. Never forget that the GFA and all those associated with it are corrupt as ****

Scottish fitba is bent as a nine bob note . There is no level playing field, no fairness, full of media bias, and anyone who dares to upset the apple cart will be firmly put in there place.

It doesn’t hide, it’s just hidden in plain sight.

[Frank Sidebottom]

Never forget it is coming up almost 2 years since Celtic last had a player sent off in the league.