“Four way title race… “

[Star Lizard]

So says Pat Nevin.

 

Who are the four teams and why?

 

 

[soonbe110]

1 minute ago, Star Lizard said:

So says Pat Nevin.

 

Who are the four teams and why?

 

 

Well, he is a Hibs fan so I’d think that’s one of them  

[Star Lizard]

Just now, soonbe110 said:

Well, he is a Hibs fan so I’d think that’s one of them  

I was looking for the four teams and the reasons to back it up, mate.

[hughesie27]

Celtic and Rangers.

[tartofmidlothian]

13 minutes ago, Star Lizard said:

So says Pat Nevin.

 

Who are the four teams and why?

 

 

 

Hibs, Motherwell, Rangers and Falkirk in a race for the title of third place team.

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

in the unlikely event that hibs repeat last seasons form when they went from bottom of the league to 3rd then they wouldn’t be far away

 

as I say I don’t see it happening but unlike us for example ‘all’ they need to do is repeat something they’ve done recently before

 

as per Del things will probably start to look clearer after 2 rounds of fixtures and January business

 

 

[Star Lizard]

12 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

Well, he is a Hibs fan so I’d think that’s one of them  

 

6 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

Celtic and Rangers.

So:

 

Hearts

Celtic

Hibs

Motherwell

Rangers

Seems a bit disingenuous to me… the assumption being that the three emboldened teams will last the distance to contend for the title, but Motherwell won’t?

 

This, despite Motherwell being on the same points as Hibs and above Rangers?

[Star Lizard]

Just now, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

in the unlikely event that hibs repeat last seasons form when they went from bottom of the league to 3rd then they wouldn’t be far away

 

as I say I don’t see it happening but unlike us for example ‘all’ they need to do is repeat something they’ve done recently before

 

as per Del things will probably start to look clearer after 2 rounds of fixtures and January business

 

 

It was a run Hibs had never been on in decades. Doing it once in decades does not lean on likelihood. Same as how they never won the Scottish Cup in 2017.

 

If we are talking about finishing in the top two, then Hibs are no more of a historical contender than Motherwell, and top three, they are equally adrift of the old firm and us.

 

They are attempting to position themselves as something they are not and very very rarely manage to be, based on complete fantasy.

 

I think Motherwell will finish above them this season.

[hughesie27]

4 minutes ago, Star Lizard said:

 

So:

 

Hearts

Celtic

Hibs

Motherwell

Rangers

Seems a bit disingenuous to me… the assumption being that the three emboldened teams will last the distance to contend for the title, but Motherwell won’t?

 

This, despite Motherwell being on the same points as Hibs and above Rangers?

No. Just Rangers and Celtic.

[Star Lizard]

Just now, hughesie27 said:

No. Just Rangers and Celtic.

In the “four way title race” that I quoted? How does that work?

[buzzbomb1958]

8 minutes ago, tartofmidlothian said:

 

Hibs, Motherwell, Rangers and Falkirk in a race for the title of third place team.

HIBS WILL BE BOTTOM SIX 

BOOKMARK THIS

[JimmyCant]

The race hasn’t started yet. In F1 parlance we’ve had the practice sessions, we’re now in qualifying and the winner will most likely come from one of the front 2 on the grid come mid February. That’s when the race starts, although it might just be a procession like it normally is

[El Prez]

Just now, JimmyCant said:

The race hasn’t started yet. In F1 parlance we’ve had the practice sessions, we’re now in qualifying and the winner will most likely come from one of the front 2 on the grid come mid February. That’s when the race starts, although it might just be a procession like it normally is

Bit shite when a few of our cars are in the garage getting fixed, mind.

[hughesie27]

2 minutes ago, Star Lizard said:

In the “four way title race” that I quoted? How does that work?

It doesn't. I don't think there will be more than a 2 team title race when it all shakes out.

 

[Hans Eskilsson]

Hibs are 5 points behind Celtic and played 2 games more than them. 
 

What a weird statement. 
 

Unless we do something special then it’s Celtic only. 

[Le Chat]

When was the last time a 'title race' included a team who hasn't won a game against a side sitting higher than 8th?

[JimmyCant]

Just now, El Prez said:

Bit shite when a few of our cars are in the garage getting fixed, mind.

Everyone has mechanical problems. It’s down to who fixes them first and best and/or gets the better replacement parts

[Star Lizard]

1 minute ago, JimmyCant said:

The race hasn’t started yet. In F1 parlance we’ve had the practice sessions, we’re now in qualifying and the winner will most likely come from one of the front 2 on the grid come mid February. That’s when the race starts, although it might just be a procession like it normally is

Ignoring all the go karting stuff and concentrating on real sport for a second, are you saying there is no “title race” yet, never mind a quantifiable pool of contenders?

 

If so, then yeah, I probably agree actually.

 

on topic though, Pat Nevin, former Motherwell legend, and transitioned Hibs supporter from a Celtic background, who is also thought of as an intellectual said:

 

”Hibs are in a four way title race”…

 

that was what I wanted to discuss, and more specifically, who are the four teams?

[Hømme]

But 2 teams are miles clear at the top.

 

So where is the four way title race coming from?

[PapaShango]

Hibs will finish 20+ points behind whoever wins it. They are miles away from being able to put a title challenge in. I also think we are behind being able to as well, although more likely than they are IMO. Celtic will motor away from the rest post Xmas and win it at a canter again. Hope I'm wrong but think they will have too much for everyone unless we produce something out the ordinary up until January then pull out a couple of quality signings. 

[Taffin]

Hearts, Celtic, Rangers and Motherwell.

 

It's pointless anyway as it's not a title race. It's waiting for Celtic to win it.

[Star Lizard]

4 minutes ago, Hømme said:

But 2 teams are miles clear at the top.

 

So where is the four way title race coming from?

Someone gets it…

[Star Lizard]

3 minutes ago, Taffin said:

Hearts, Celtic, Rangers and Motherwell.

 

It's pointless anyway as it's not a title race. It's waiting for Celtic to win it.

But Nevin said Hibs are in a four way title race… how can that work?

[hughesie27]

What he actually said.

 

“It could even be a four-way title race. I still think Hibs are underrated at the moment. That's not just because of my green and white scarf. Because I've watched them, and the fact is, like they did last season, their results aren't as good as their performances. Then they went on a bad run last season early on then improved. So, you know, they could do that again. I would like it to be a four-way fight. I would love a Glasgow v Edinburgh four way battle."

 

On the 18th November.

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

20 minutes ago, Star Lizard said:

It was a run Hibs had never been on in decades. Doing it once in decades does not lean on likelihood. Same as how they never won the Scottish Cup in 2017.

 

If we are talking about finishing in the top two, then Hibs are no more of a historical contender than Motherwell, and top three, they are equally adrift of the old firm and us.

 

They are attempting to position themselves as something they are not and very very rarely manage to be, based on complete fantasy.

 

I think Motherwell will finish above them this season.

yeah I said it was unlikely - but there’s no denying that run or similar will put them right in the mix in what is shaping up to be a sub-standard quality league

 

 

[Taffin]

3 minutes ago, Star Lizard said:

But Nevin said Hibs are in a four way title race… how can that work?

 

Feck knows, that info isn't in the OP. Basically he's wrong. There's no title race...so whatever 4 he picks is really neither here nor there.

[Taffin]

2 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

What he actually said.

 

“It could even be a four-way title race. I still think Hibs are underrated at the moment. That's not just because of my green and white scarf. Because I've watched them, and the fact is, like they did last season, their results aren't as good as their performances. Then they went on a bad run last season early on then improved. So, you know, they could do that again. I would like it to be a four-way fight. I would love a Glasgow v Edinburgh four way battle."

 

On the 18th November.

 

Don't see anything wrong with that tbh. It's wishful thinking and good on him for that imo.

[GinRummy]

Hibs fan Pat Nevin changes the narrative to include…eh…Hibs 😢. Seems newsworthy. 

[tartofmidlothian]

23 minutes ago, buzzbomb1958 said:

HIBS WILL BE BOTTOM SIX 

BOOKMARK THIS

 

Aberdeen are improving, St Mirren are in a false position based on their performances and Dundee United can't stay in this rut forever. After last night Hibs should definitely be looking down to see their competition, not up.

[Hector Riva]

Beware the Dark horses

 

Falkirk. 

[AC Mallin_51]

I think there’s been some Black Friday deals on smack if .net is anything to go by, even though they’re 9 points behind us and played a game more 

[soonbe110]

1 hour ago, Star Lizard said:

I was looking for the four teams and the reasons to back it up, mate.

Better ask Pat.    Doubt anyone else thinks it’s a four horse race 

[Star Lizard]

42 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Feck knows, that info isn't in the OP. Basically he's wrong. There's no title race...so whatever 4 he picks is really neither here nor there.

Yes it is. The title and OP say exactly that.

[Star Lizard]

21 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

Better ask Pat.    Doubt anyone else thinks it’s a four horse race 

Cool. Thanks for the input. 

[davie1980]

1 hour ago, Star Lizard said:

So says Pat Nevin.

 

Who are the four teams and why?

 

 

 

With games in hand over Hibs it must be Rangers and Motherwell for the other 2 spots

[Star Lizard]

2 minutes ago, davie1980 said:

 

With games in hand over Hibs it must be Rangers and Motherwell for the other 2 spots

Agreed, but how does that work when it is Hibs that are in a four team title race? 🤷‍♂️

[Morgan]

The obvious one.

Celtic.

Rangers.

Motherwell.

 

 

[Star Lizard]

How does all of this affect the punters that got paid out to by Paddy Power? 🤨

[Star Lizard]

7 minutes ago, Morgan said:

The obvious one.

Celtic.

Rangers.

Motherwell.

 

 

But Nevin said that Hibs are in a four way title race…

[Taffin]

1 hour ago, Star Lizard said:

So says Pat Nevin.

 

Who are the four teams and why?

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Star Lizard said:

But Nevin said Hibs are in a four way title race… how can that work?

 

16 minutes ago, Star Lizard said:

Yes it is. The title and OP say exactly that.

 

I see nothing about Hibs in the title or the OP hence why saying the bold wasn't quoted anywhere .

 

@hughesie27 has since posted what he actually said which adds context and I don't see issue with what he's said

Edited November 26, 2025 by Taffin

[Mikey1874]

It's too early to talk about a title race. 

 

 

[Mikey1874]

It's too early to talk about a title race. 

 

 

[Victorian]

They're 4th in the odds so I suppose you could apply a bit of Hibs mental gymnastics and eliminate everyone below 4th and call it a 4 way race.   

[N Lincs Jambo]

Tbh I would love it if there genuinely was a 4-way title race at the business end of the season, as long as we're in it/win it obviously! It doesn't happen very often - I can only think of 64-65 and 85-86 when there were 4 teams all with a realistic chance come the end of March. Hibs (and us obviously) were in the first of these (neither OF club was that season) and it was us, Celtic, Dundee Utd and Aberdeen in 86.

 

Hibs did have a couple of good seasons in the early 70s but their arse fell out come the spring just as it did in 65. The last time they went into the final game with a chance of winning was 52-53 when Rangers got a 1-1 draw at Palmerston to win on goal average (Hibs would have won on GD!). Pretty sure that was the game the ref told the Rangers captain that Queens were not scoring from their last minute corner. He was true to his word. Queens scored but goal disallowed.

 

Pretty sure that relatively speaking all those Hibs sides I have mentioned were streets ahead of the shite they've got now.

[JimmyCant]

1 hour ago, Star Lizard said:

Ignoring all the go karting stuff and concentrating on real sport for a second, are you saying there is no “title race” yet, never mind a quantifiable pool of contenders?

 

If so, then yeah, I probably agree actually.

 

on topic though, Pat Nevin, former Motherwell legend, and transitioned Hibs supporter from a Celtic background, who is also thought of as an intellectual said:

 

”Hibs are in a four way title race”…

 

that was what I wanted to discuss, and more specifically, who are the four teams?

And there’s the problem. If the original statement/question is wrong, there is no correct answer.

[Cruyff]

By the end of the season, Celtic will be 12-15 points ahead. 

 

4 way battle for 2nd place perhaps. 

[Rudi5kaceldream1ng]

2 hours ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

in the unlikely event that hibs repeat last seasons form when they went from bottom of the league to 3rd then they wouldn’t be far away

 

as I say I don’t see it happening but unlike us for example ‘all’ they need to do is repeat something they’ve done recently before

 

as per Del things will probably start to look clearer after 2 rounds of fixtures and January business

 

 

Aye hopefully Tony bloom can throw his chequebook at some January signings... 

 

No sense getting ott about league placing until January at least anyway hopefully we're still in the hunt. 

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

We lose Saturday it's grim

[hughesie27]

11 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

We lose Saturday it's grim

It's not.

[King prawn]

I don’t see anything wrong with what he’s actually said. Says he’s Hibs and hopes it’s a 4 way title race 🤷🏻‍♂️