The wonderful world of Reform Ltd

[Gundermann]

A dull yin for free-speech absolutists.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/nov/25/reform-trumpian-legal-threats-media-nigel-farage

[Jacques de Gauthier]

11 hours ago, Ked said:

What's the best party too vote for if you don't like rapey folk who want to turn society into a right wing religious mental ward?

 

Bit hypothetical I know but if pushed ?

 

The Ked Party. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Jacques de Gauthier said:

The Ked Party. 

He would be a Barry PM !! 

[Konrad von Carstein]

6 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

He would be a Barry PM !! 

Private Message?

[Jacques de Gauthier]

6 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

He would be a Barry PM !! 

G7 meeting would be worth live-streaming. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

5 minutes ago, Jacques de Gauthier said:

G7 meeting would be worth live-streaming. 

I’d be in his cabinet 

[Ray Gin]

3 hours ago, Dennis Denuto said:

I have a feeling the take down of Farage has begun.

 

The average Reform voter will lap up Farage's racism. This won't harm support for them in any way whatsoever.

[Jacques de Gauthier]

3 minutes ago, Ray Gin said:

 

The average Reform voter will lap up Farage's racism. This won't harm support for them in any way whatsoever.

You have a very low opinion of those with differing views. 

[Mikey1874]

 

[Nookie Bear]

23 hours ago, Gundermann said:

 

Anyone thinking that Reform are going to be honest and competent needs their head examined. A wee look, not only at Nigel Five Houses, but at their current performances shows that. Sure, they could give Tory and Labour a bloody nose but at what cost? I like being able to feed my kids and go on holiday. Utility bills are a scandal already.

 

This guy is only the tip of the iceberg of Reform chaos in England's councils.

 

 

https://www.lambethlibdems.org.uk/news/article/fury-as-lambeth-labour-seeks-to-appoint-councillor-charged-with-serious-offences-to-committee-lib-dems-demand-resignation

[Mikey1874]

10 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

https://www.lambethlibdems.org.uk/news/article/fury-as-lambeth-labour-seeks-to-appoint-councillor-charged-with-serious-offences-to-committee-lib-dems-demand-resignation

 

Well then that's it settled. 

 

Farage forgiven for being racist and an ally of Putin. 

[Victorian]

17 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

 

Amazingly spread voting intention over 6 parties (SNP adjusted for population is around 25%).   That would make for some election night.

[John Findlay]

1 hour ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

I’d be in his cabinet 

Yes, in a basque and suspenders🤣

[Dennis Denuto]

49 minutes ago, Jacques de Gauthier said:

You have a very low opinion of those with differing views. 

There are certain differing views that do not qualify as deserving of a high opinion. Reform voters qualify for low opinion, in my opinion.

[Ray Gin]

54 minutes ago, Jacques de Gauthier said:

You have a very low opinion of those with differing views. 

 

I certainly do, if those views involve supporting Reform.

[Victorian]

Activists are trying to organise a council tax boycott in East Sussex in protest about asylum seekers being moved into a military site.   This of course after protesting for months about them being in hotels,  which are only for 'the likes of us',  apparently.

 

Cue hundreds,  maybe thousands,  of people jumping on the bandwagon,  motivated by a handy justification to maybe score some free money by dodging paying council tax.

 

Crack on.   Hopefully their water gets cut off and their bins aren't emptied.

[Gundermann]

1 hour ago, Jacques de Gauthier said:

You have a very low opinion of those with differing views. 

 

Having a low opinion of racists is good, no?

[Nookie Bear]

36 minutes ago, Mikey1874 said:

 

Well then that's it settled. 

 

Farage forgiven for being racist and an ally of Putin. 

 

Nope, not what i was saying at all.

 

But if people are just going to post misdemeanours from one party then it stands to reason they should be compared alongside their opposite parties. Particularly bad when the same person is offered redemption by their party.

[Gundermann]

Meanwhile...  

 

 

[Nookie Bear]

19 minutes ago, Victorian said:

Activists are trying to organise a council tax boycott in East Sussex in protest about asylum seekers being moved into a military site.   This of course after protesting for months about them being in hotels,  which are only for 'the likes of us',  apparently.

 

Cue hundreds,  maybe thousands,  of people jumping on the bandwagon,  motivated by a handy justification to maybe score some free money by dodging paying council tax.

 

Crack on.   Hopefully their water gets cut off and their bins aren't emptied.

 

Is the Deputy Leader of the Greens backing this? 

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

58 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

https://www.lambethlibdems.org.uk/news/article/fury-as-lambeth-labour-seeks-to-appoint-councillor-charged-with-serious-offences-to-committee-lib-dems-demand-resignation

It’s in every party . 

[Dennis Denuto]

Lots of Whataboutary on this thread today, pretty sure people were looking to avoid that.

 

Looks very much like your Whataboutary BAD, my Whataboutary GOOD

[JudyJudyJudy]

31 minutes ago, Victorian said:

Activists are trying to organise a council tax boycott in East Sussex in protest about asylum seekers being moved into a military site.   This of course after protesting for months about them being in hotels,  which are only for 'the likes of us',  apparently.

 

Cue hundreds,  maybe thousands,  of people jumping on the bandwagon,  motivated by a handy justification to maybe score some free money by dodging paying council tax.

 

Crack on.   Hopefully their water gets cut off and their bins aren't emptied.

In my “ leftie “ days during the poll

tax carry on  I bumped paying it , due to political reasons . 
 

However the problem was the Govt could and can arrest your wages to recover it , so it’s a waste of time doing that . 
 

I owed them £2 grand ! They got it back at £25 a month . 

Edited November 25, 2025 by JudyJudyJudy

[JudyJudyJudy]

46 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

Yes, in a basque and suspenders🤣

🤣 and the heels 👠 

[Ray Gin]

16 minutes ago, Gundermann said:

Meanwhile...  

 

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

17 minutes ago, Gundermann said:

Meanwhile...  

 

 

Dearie me . 

Edited November 25, 2025 by JudyJudyJudy

[Nookie Bear]

2 hours ago, Dennis Denuto said:

Lots of Whataboutary on this thread today, pretty sure people were looking to avoid that.

 

Looks very much like your Whataboutary BAD, my Whataboutary GOOD

 

It's not so whataboutery, rather "everybody-is-at-it-ery" and it doesn't matter your political persuasion, you are never more than 10 feet from a scandal of a sexual, racial or financial nature.

 

The question is: why would anyone become an MP? They earn way less than they would in the private sector so it must be about power. And anyone motivated by power is unlikely to be of wholly upstanding character.

[Taffin]

30 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

It's not so whataboutery, rather "everybody-is-at-it-ery" and it doesn't matter your political persuasion, you are never more than 10 feet from a scandal of a sexual, racial or financial nature.

 

The question is: why would anyone become an MP? They earn way less than they would in the private sector so it must be about power. And anyone motivated by power is unlikely to be of wholly upstanding character.

 

With you on that. Good post.

 

[The Mighty Thor]

4 hours ago, Ray Gin said:

 

The average Reform voter will lap up Farage's racism. This won't harm support for them in any way whatsoever.

Its their raison d'etre 😂

 

 

[Victorian]

48 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

It's not so whataboutery, rather "everybody-is-at-it-ery" and it doesn't matter your political persuasion, you are never more than 10 feet from a scandal of a sexual, racial or financial nature.

 

The question is: why would anyone become an MP? They earn way less than they would in the private sector so it must be about power. And anyone motivated by power is unlikely to be of wholly upstanding character.

 

The base salary of an MP is £94,000.   I would tend to say that lots of them are earning beyond what they could realise in the private sector.

[Cruyff]

I think Reform are just a rouse for Boris Johnson to come back for the Tories at the next election. 

 

It just seems obvious. 

[The Mighty Thor]

7 hours ago, Gundermann said:

A dull yin for free-speech absolutists.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2025/nov/25/reform-trumpian-legal-threats-media-nigel-farage

Reminiscent of the famous Private Eye response to Carter Ruck when they tried to threaten them

 

'**** Off' was their answer

[The Mighty Thor]

Just now, Cruyff said:

I think Reform are just a rouse for Boris Johnson to come back for the Tories at the next election. 

 

It just seems obvious. 

On a side note did you see the nick of him in his video at the weekend? 

 

He looks like he's been mainlining Vodka & cream buns

[Costanza]

4 hours ago, Gundermann said:

Meanwhile...  

 

 

Didn't realise Laurence Fox was still a thing. 

Could have carved out a career as a weekend jobber on ITV starring in mid evening Sunday night dramas and now an irrelevant and roundly despised tit.

 

[Jacques de Gauthier]

5 hours ago, Gundermann said:

 

Having a low opinion of racists is good, no?

Is everyone that votes Reform a racist, in your opinion?

 

Farage is a tit, and some of the rage is being manufactured by social media and outside influencers, sure. But there are genuine concerns about immigration, especially that of the ‘asylum’ kind which neither of the big 2 seem able to fix. You can’t say every Reform voter is a racist in the same way not every Tory voter is a toff, not every Green voter is a vegan, or every Lib Dem voter is a pale imitation of a human being no matter how much easier it is to categorize people in such a way. 

[Mikey1874]

 

[Victorian]

Anyone with a shred of perception can say with certainty that Farage is lying about the allegations.

 

Were you racist?

 

No,  not directly to people.

 

We're ye racist but?

 

No,  not with intent.

 

I don't understand what you mean by with intent.

 

You wouldn't.

 

Only someone rattled and with something to hide attempts to qualify the questions and answers in a pathetic attempt to deceive the listener.   Almost gaslighting.

[Nookie Bear]

I don’t know why he doesn’t just admit he was racist in the past but has grown up, learnt, blah blah 

 

But also, let he who is without sin cast the first banana…

[Gundermann]

45 minutes ago, Jacques de Gauthier said:

Is everyone that votes Reform a racist, in your opinion?

 

Farage is a tit, and some of the rage is being manufactured by social media and outside influencers, sure. But there are genuine concerns about immigration, especially that of the ‘asylum’ kind which neither of the big 2 seem able to fix. You can’t say every Reform voter is a racist in the same way not every Tory voter is a toff, not every Green voter is a vegan, or every Lib Dem voter is a pale imitation of a human being no matter how much easier it is to categorize people in such a way. 

 

Probably not every single one of them.

[Dennis Denuto]

54 minutes ago, Jacques de Gauthier said:

Is everyone that votes Reform a racist, in your opinion?

 

Farage is a tit, and some of the rage is being manufactured by social media and outside influencers, sure. But there are genuine concerns about immigration, especially that of the ‘asylum’ kind which neither of the big 2 seem able to fix. You can’t say every Reform voter is a racist in the same way not every Tory voter is a toff, not every Green voter is a vegan, or every Lib Dem voter is a pale imitation of a human being no matter how much easier it is to categorize people in such a way. 

I think it’s the same as Will Self said about leave voters in Brexit, not all Reform voters are racist but all (close enough to all) racists will vote reform. 
 

I take issue that Labour have shown that they can’t handle the immigration issue, they have had five mins of power to try and resolve the mess the previous Governments and Brexit left behind. Give their policies time and see if they work. 
 

I think lots of people who have switched to reform know this is the fault of the guys in reform and the Tories but are still going to vote reform, why would they do that? What would be the reason to vote for them? Can you think of one?

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

1 hour ago, Nookie Bear said:

I don’t know why he doesn’t just admit he was racist in the past but has grown up, learnt, blah blah 

 

But also, let he who is without sin cast the first banana…

 

hes just winding up the weak lefty snowflakes that think its some sort of gotcha

 

as said on the thread already - plenty voting for him dont give a **** if he was racist at school

 

its also gone over the tipping point where a wee bit of racism is probably seen by many as acceptable for the greater good

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

52 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said:

 

hes just winding up the weak lefty snowflakes that think its some sort of gotcha

 

as said on the thread already - plenty voting for him dont give a **** if he was racist at school

 

its also gone over the tipping point where a wee bit of racism is probably seen by many as acceptable for the greater good

 

 

It’ll have zero impact on his polling im guessing. 

[hughesie27]

26 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

It’ll have zero impact on his polling im guessing. 

Because the vast majority of Reform voters have little moral principles and/or are racist themselves?

[Victorian]

They already have regressed slightly in the polls.   26% is not enough to win a majority.   Might not even achieve largest party.   Labour had 33% at the 2024 election,  albeit they won a lot of seats due to a bit of a fluke.

 

Reform need to attract and retain a fair bit of atypical Reform/Ukip/Brexit voters.   The more Farage is unmasked as a flawed character in any context is quite unhelpful for them.   

[Jambo_jim2001]

 

[XB52]

10 hours ago, Victorian said:

They already have regressed slightly in the polls.   26% is not enough to win a majority.   Might not even achieve largest party.   Labour had 33% at the 2024 election,  albeit they won a lot of seats due to a bit of a fluke.

 

Reform need to attract and retain a fair bit of atypical Reform/Ukip/Brexit voters.   The more Farage is unmasked as a flawed character in any context is quite unhelpful for them.   

You just hope that the non-racists thinking of voting for Reform will gradually come to their senses. That would leave the full on racists, and that would, hopefully, mean they would plummet in the polls

[Nookie Bear]

10 hours ago, Victorian said:

They already have regressed slightly in the polls.   26% is not enough to win a majority.   Might not even achieve largest party.   Labour had 33% at the 2024 election,  albeit they won a lot of seats due to a bit of a fluke.

 

Reform need to attract and retain a fair bit of atypical Reform/Ukip/Brexit voters.   The more Farage is unmasked as a flawed character in any context is quite unhelpful for them.   

 

This may explain why the clamour for PR has regressed somewhat 

[Nookie Bear]

11 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

It’ll have zero impact on his polling im guessing. 

 

It's like us sitting here having a go at the Green Brigade. It actually fuels them.

[JudyJudyJudy]

6 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

It's like us sitting here having a go at the Green Brigade. It actually fuels them.

Ofcourse it will . They will say it’s a “ leftie” plot to undermine him and his party as they are running scared of reform polling . 

 

 

[The Mighty Thor]

2 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Ofcourse it will . They will say it’s a “ leftie” plot to undermine him and his party as they are running scared of reform polling . 

 

 

where the term 'leftie' refers to anyone that is not a massive racist.