JudyJudyJudy Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 Well said Zia The video links to reform policies so It is appropriate to post on this thread .
The Hogfather Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 2 hours ago, Taffin said: Necessary evil, imo. How so?
hughesie27 Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 12 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Well said Zia The video links to reform policies so It is appropriate to post on this thread . There is absolutely nothing wrong with posting tweets from Reform eejits on this thread. You don't need to justify it because it "links to Reform policies" (it doesn't fwiw, it's just a website on the video, there is no Link.) Still yet to hear anything from any Reform voter on their own actual policies. Just Greens = Bad.
milky_26 Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 the rise of reform IMO is due to the complete failure of all of the main parties. Tories - shambles giving us brexit, cabbage truss, defefel the buffoon. Labour - mr interesting, constant in fighting, total incompetence. Lib Dems - you've been framed leader, tory unholy alliance. SNP - the great scottish motorhome show, humza useless, gender identity chaos
New Town Loafer Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 Feel the same way about them as I do about every single political party: not to be trusted and blind allegiance is weird. That said, they will likely get my vote as they’re the party most likely to tackle the issue I care most about.
The Mighty Thor Posted November 22, 2025 Author Posted November 22, 2025 1 hour ago, hughesie27 said: There is absolutely nothing wrong with posting tweets from Reform eejits on this thread. You don't need to justify it because it "links to Reform policies" (it doesn't fwiw, it's just a website on the video, there is no Link.) Still yet to hear anything from any Reform voter on their own actual policies. Just Greens = Bad. If Zak Polanski was a straight white man you'd never have seen that video
The Hogfather Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 12 minutes ago, New Town Loafer said: Feel the same way about them as I do about every single political party: not to be trusted and blind allegiance is weird. That said, they will likely get my vote as they’re the party most likely to tackle the issue I care most about. Sucking Russias dick?
New Town Loafer Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 6 minutes ago, The Hogfather said: Sucking Russias dick? Frightening wit.
The Hogfather Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 Just now, New Town Loafer said: Frightening wit. Frightening that anyone would vote for a party in Russias pocket.
hughesie27 Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 23 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: If Zak Polanski was a straight white man you'd never have seen that video Possibly but if the video is accurate then Zaks opinions are pretty mental. Sure theres a decent bit of Reform spin though.
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 (edited) 28 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: If Zak Polanski was a straight white man you'd never have seen that video The guys a lunatic . Zia only pointin this out . His sexual orientation is irrelevant. Why point it out ? Interesting …, Edited November 22, 2025 by JudyJudyJudy
New Town Loafer Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 26 minutes ago, The Hogfather said: Frightening that anyone would vote for a party in Russias pocket. Which uniquely wonderful political party do you favour?
The Hogfather Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 11 minutes ago, New Town Loafer said: Which uniquely wonderful political party do you favour? I don't favour any. I'll decide who to vote for as the next GE approaches. But I won't be voting for one that surreptitiously works for the Russians, that's for sure.
Konrad von Carstein Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 27 minutes ago, The Hogfather said: I don't favour any. I'll decide who to vote for as the next GE approaches. But I won't be voting for one that openly works for the Russians, that's for sure.
The Hogfather Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 1 minute ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Fair comment.
il Duce McTarkin Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, New Town Loafer said: Feel the same way about them as I do about every single political party: not to be trusted and blind allegiance is weird. That said, they will likely get my vote as they’re the party most likely to tackle the issue I care most about. What, you want the further disintigration of the UK in line with Vladimir Putin's strategic objectives? It's just a shame that the Tories didn't adequately deal with weaponised migration when they had the chance. It's not as if we can blame them for being on the Ivan payroll. Edited November 22, 2025 by il Duce McTarkin
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 Oh the free speech mob out last night in Edinburgh intimidating people who wanted to hold a discussion . The so called “ tolerant “ Quelle surprise https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNR1qxH59/
Ron Burgundy Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 To some people the most offensive thing a person can do is hold a different opinion.
The Hogfather Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 Right thinking residents of Edinburgh rejecting the UK branch of United Russia.
Cade Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 Everything looks like a conspiracy when you don't understand how anything works
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: To some people the most offensive thing a person can do is hold a different opinion. Yep . 👍 the so called “ tolerant “ on this too . Delighted when groups / people are silenced or cancelled for the crime of having opinions . Those outside that uni are the usual rent a mob I had a ding Dong with a couple months ago too . Edited November 22, 2025 by JudyJudyJudy
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 2 hours ago, New Town Loafer said: Feel the same way about them as I do about every single political party: not to be trusted and blind allegiance is weird. That said, they will likely get my vote as they’re the party most likely to tackle the issue I care most about. What issues in particular?
hughesie27 Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Oh the free speech mob out last night in Edinburgh intimidating people who wanted to hold a discussion . The so called “ tolerant “ Quelle surprise https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNR1qxH59/ So they made the decision to cancel, not the venues? "We had to cancel". The plan all along? Who decided the protesters were going to be a threat to attendees? Has there been any previous events by this individual where people were harmed by protectors? Edited November 22, 2025 by hughesie27
Taffin Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 6 hours ago, The Hogfather said: How so? I believe when people/businesses/parties etc have no competition you end up with version that just take the piss. We've had years of the conservatives doing it...to they extent they've pretty much sunk their party and we've had labour come in and prove everyone's fears right... they're equally as incompetent and also still pretty corrupt and two-faced. That will continue forever unless people vote for something else and force a proper party to emerge. That something else is Reform imo. Whilst only an idiot would genuinely support them (imo), only an idiot won't vote for them next time (also imo). Short term pain, long term gain.
The Hogfather Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 5 minutes ago, Taffin said: I believe when people/businesses/parties etc have no competition you end up with version that just take the piss. We've had years of the conservatives doing it...to they extent they've pretty much sunk their party and we've had labour come in and prove everyone's fears right... they're equally as incompetent and also still pretty corrupt and two-faced. That will continue forever unless people vote for something else and force a proper party to emerge. That something else is Reform imo. Whilst only an idiot would genuinely support them (imo), only an idiot won't vote for them next time (also imo). Short term pain, long term gain. It's extremely hard to see how a party who are in Russias pocket, want to bring an end of reducing the countries carbo footprint to zero, bring about an end to the NHS and skirt the law as much as possible would be good for Britain in the long run.
hughesie27 Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 Anything pro Reform yet for the seemingly stick on next Government? Nah?
The Hogfather Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 13 minutes ago, hughesie27 said: Anything pro Reform yet for the seemingly stick on next Government? Nah? Depending on who you ask, their dislike of brown people might be a positive.
The Mighty Thor Posted November 22, 2025 Author Posted November 22, 2025 Nah we're at the tik-tok meme stage something we're offended by wibble wibble
Lone Striker Posted November 22, 2025 Posted November 22, 2025 4 hours ago, milky_26 said: the rise of reform IMO is due to the complete failure of all of the main parties. Tories - shambles giving us brexit, cabbage truss, defefel the buffoon. Labour - mr interesting, constant in fighting, total incompetence. Lib Dems - you've been framed leader, tory unholy alliance. SNP - the great scottish motorhome show, humza useless, gender identity chaos Yeah, although "complete failure" is a bit unfair. Tories & SNP have been in power for ages, during which they've had to deal with "events dear boy, events". Some have been self-inflicted cock-ups (e.g. motorhome & sleaze) but most have been the result of outside factors beyond their control (e.g. wars, oil prices, Covid, boat people, Trump) Labour benefitted from that at the last election - very few of their senior politicians had been in Government, so loads of voters saw them as a "new party". Their 1st 16 mths shows just how likely it is that any party winning an election will suffer similar embarrassments as the Tories did on regular basis.
Taffin Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 16 hours ago, The Hogfather said: It's extremely hard to see how a party who are in Russias pocket, want to bring an end of reducing the countries carbo footprint to zero, bring about an end to the NHS and skirt the law as much as possible would be good for Britain in the long run. Because the alternative is the other two continuing to get worse and worse. Let's not forget the accusations above sit comfortably with Labour and Conservative too Russia's pocket? Check, particularly the Tories but also very much in London. Carbon footprint? What did the Tories do to actually advance that? Labour looking to end key subsidy schemes. NHS? Already on its way out under the main two. Skirt the law? Pretty obvious one really given the 'infringements' within both main parties over the last few years. So for me, it's pretty bloody obvious why we need some kind of shake up otherwise labour and Tories will be Reform-esque within a few years anyway and we'll have no alternatives. A continuation of the status quo certainly doesn't look good for Britain in the long run...as we've seen over the last 20 odd years
The Hogfather Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 1 hour ago, Taffin said: Because the alternative is the other two continuing to get worse and worse. Let's not forget the accusations above sit comfortably with Labour and Conservative too Russia's pocket? Check, particularly the Tories but also very much in London. Carbon footprint? What did the Tories do to actually advance that? Labour looking to end key subsidy schemes. NHS? Already on its way out under the main two. Skirt the law? Pretty obvious one really given the 'infringements' within both main parties over the last few years. So for me, it's pretty bloody obvious why we need some kind of shake up otherwise labour and Tories will be Reform-esque within a few years anyway and we'll have no alternatives. A continuation of the status quo certainly doesn't look good for Britain in the long run...as we've seen over the last 20 odd years I don’t disagree that we’ve been badly let down by the big two and a shake up is needed. But a party full of ex-Tory ministers isn’t it imo.
The Mighty Thor Posted November 23, 2025 Author Posted November 23, 2025 1 minute ago, The Hogfather said: I don’t disagree that we’ve been badly let down by the big two and a shake up is needed. But a party full of ex-Tory ministers isn’t it imo. Its a party by racist grifters which is attracting the worst kind of self-serving types who see it as a vehicle to extend their 'careers' beyond where it should have ended when they got launched out of office. There's nothing they got a reasonable solution to. Not one thing.
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 2 hours ago, Taffin said: Because the alternative is the other two continuing to get worse and worse. Let's not forget the accusations above sit comfortably with Labour and Conservative too Russia's pocket? Check, particularly the Tories but also very much in London. Carbon footprint? What did the Tories do to actually advance that? Labour looking to end key subsidy schemes. NHS? Already on its way out under the main two. Skirt the law? Pretty obvious one really given the 'infringements' within both main parties over the last few years. So for me, it's pretty bloody obvious why we need some kind of shake up otherwise labour and Tories will be Reform-esque within a few years anyway and we'll have no alternatives. A continuation of the status quo certainly doesn't look good for Britain in the long run...as we've seen over the last 20 odd years Very good posting mate .
hughesie27 Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 So we may as well vote Reform because if we dont the Labour/Conservative parties will end up like Reform. That's me convinced. Any want to share any positive aspects for Reform today?
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 2 hours ago, hughesie27 said: So we may as well vote Reform because if we dont the Labour/Conservative parties will end up like Reform. That's me convinced. Any want to share any positive aspects for Reform today?
Norm Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 3 hours ago, hughesie27 said: So we may as well vote Reform because if we dont the Labour/Conservative parties will end up like Reform. That's me convinced. Any want to share any positive aspects for Reform today? They let you know who the stupid and gullible people are?
XB52 Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 3 hours ago, hughesie27 said: So we may as well vote Reform because if we dont the Labour/Conservative parties will end up like Reform. That's me convinced. Any want to share any positive aspects for Reform today? Nobody can because they don't have any policies, unless you count racism
Ron Burgundy Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 So it appears that anyone who would vote Reform is labelled a racist and Putin cuck. I wonder why there isn’t a great deal of grown up debate on the thread. I’ll leave you all to it 😂
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 6 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said: So it appears that anyone who would vote Reform is labelled a racist and Putin cuck. I wonder why there isn’t a great deal of grown up debate on the thread. I’ll leave you all to it 😂 Its truly pathetic really. Ill be voting reform next year 100% couldnt give a toss what others wanna label me of other voters
Ron Burgundy Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 Just now, JudyJudyJudy said: Its truly pathetic really. Ill be voting reform next year 100% couldnt give a toss what others wanna label me of other voters It’s incredible eh 😂
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 Just now, Ron Burgundy said: It’s incredible eh 😂 Totally expected though.
Victorian Posted November 23, 2025 Posted November 23, 2025 6 hours ago, hughesie27 said: So we may as well vote Reform because if we dont the Labour/Conservative parties will end up like Reform. That's me convinced. Any want to share any positive aspects for Reform today? Very good post. And it goes a long way to describing why Labour's current efforts to man-mark Reform on irregular migration is absolutely a good thing which should be encouraged. If it can yield results anyway. From a stand point of assuming that, come what may, some seemingly tougher policies (call them right wing policies if necessary) are destined to be introduced (by Reform), it cannot be a bad thing if a more central party/government introduces them in order to steal Reform's USP. Simply to deny them the opportunity to introduce the same or worse policies while also possessing the levers of power to further wreck the economy, enable the rich and powerful to exploit eroded workers' rights and regulation, and any number of other ideologically crazed notions. Whether or not Labour, or the Tories, or the Lib Dems, are ultimately capable of delivering a better performing economy to provide some social equity is certainly open to question. But the solution is not to welcome Reform. If Reform UK had some credible ideas about improving life for Britain then they would have them front and centre. They don't on both counts. Covering Reform's USP is a necessary sacrificial lamb in order to deprive them from ****ing things up even more. Migration and immigration is not the only show in town. Peoples' jobs, working conditions, struggle against the cost of living, housing conditions, pensions, in work state support, energy supply security are profoundly more important. Going some way to delivering what Reform have convinced people they want prioritised is the only way to stop them.
Dennis Denuto Posted November 24, 2025 Posted November 24, 2025 12 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said: So it appears that anyone who would vote Reform is labelled a racist and Putin cuck. 12 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Ill be voting reform next year 100%
Ray Gin Posted November 24, 2025 Posted November 24, 2025 On 22/11/2025 at 10:57, hughesie27 said: There is absolutely nothing wrong with posting tweets from Reform eejits on this thread. You don't need to justify it because it "links to Reform policies" (it doesn't fwiw, it's just a website on the video, there is no Link.) Still yet to hear anything from any Reform voter on their own actual policies. Just Greens = Bad. Not knowing anything about them is a common theme amongst their voters https://www.facebook.com/1376301083/videos/697922709945977/
lou Posted November 24, 2025 Posted November 24, 2025 It would be good to hear from a potential Reform voter on why they intend to vote for them. If there was a GE tomorrow, I have no clue who would my vote, although I know who wouldn't
Dennis Denuto Posted November 24, 2025 Posted November 24, 2025 18 minutes ago, lou said: It would be good to hear from a potential Reform voter on why they intend to vote for them. If there was a GE tomorrow, I have no clue who would my vote, although I know who wouldn't Because they look at social media and YouTube videos and they believe the lies that are posted there by people who know they are lying but do it for financial gain. Most of the right wing propaganda is spread on YouTube, just look at the links that are posted here, it is either conspiracy shite or right wing lies. They should try reading and making up their own minds, you know do some research, the thing they all claim they do,
Bigsmak Posted November 24, 2025 Posted November 24, 2025 17 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Its truly pathetic really. Ill be voting reform next year 100% couldnt give a toss what others wanna label me of other voters And that is why the UK is a great country as we can all agree/ disagree on things like this. Can you tell me why you would vote them? What policies are their main stand out ones for you?
JudyJudyJudy Posted November 24, 2025 Posted November 24, 2025 21 minutes ago, lou said: It would be good to hear from a potential Reform voter on why they intend to vote for them. If there was a GE tomorrow, I have no clue who would my vote, although I know who wouldn't I’ve decided after long and careful consideration and research I actually will prob just vote for the Tories like I did last year . Their policies are more aligned with my views and theyr less “ extreme “ than other parties policy . Reform are right to highlight the immigration issue and gender nonsense 💩 but policies re curtailing freedom of speech , dismantling the NHS ( although it does need reformed ) pardon the pun , and rewarding billionaires aren’t really a priority for me . I’ll take the pelters heading my way ……. Spoiler Mind you may 2026 is a long way off 😂
Taffin Posted November 24, 2025 Posted November 24, 2025 7 minutes ago, Dennis Denuto said: Because they look at social media and YouTube videos and they believe the lies that are posted there by people who know they are lying but do it for financial gain. Most of the right wing propaganda is spread on YouTube, just look at the links that are posted here, it is either conspiracy shite or right wing lies. They should try reading and making up their own minds, you know do some research, the thing they all claim they do, Some might. I'll be doing it because the Tories thought they could get away with literally anything they wanted and now Labour do too. If there's no alternative there's no way to hold them to account. That's why I didn't vote last time but it's futile as a load of trumpets voted Labour in. Being out of power means they'll very much need to get their acts together. I appreciate they may just lie again in their manifesto the time after and hoodwink simpletons again...but what else is there?
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