The Mighty Thor Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 Just now, JJ93 said: Yes they are British. They are top professors at Oxbridge and authors in their respective fields. Who are they then, so we can all see just how big their brains are? With such a heavyweight policy advisory team how come every 'policy' so far has lasted less time the Truss' lettuce before being quietly put to sleep? Did these 'big brains' suggest to Farage that the way to deal with his latest economic 'policy' being fiscally illiterate was to shut down the OBR who took about 5 minutes to determine that said economic plans were fiscally illiterate?
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) 10 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: This Labour government isn't seeing out a full term. If only . Unsure what mechanism could ensure this ? Edited January 10 by JudyJudyJudy
The Mighty Thor Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 10 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: If only . Unsure what mechanism could ensure this ? Can't see them getting to 2029. They're stumbling from shitshow to disaster. Trump invades Greenland then whats Keef doing? That could do for him alone
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Just now, The Mighty Thor said: Can't see them getting to 2029. They're stumbling from shitshow to disaster. Trump invades Greenland then whats Keef doing? That could do for him alone 👍👍 he will shite himself . I can’t see him saying boo to him re this frankly insane prospect . I was thinking a vote of confidence could be on the horizon if the above happened
Konrad von Carstein Posted January 10 Posted January 10 36 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Who are they then, so we can all see just how big their brains are? With such a heavyweight policy advisory team how come every 'policy' so far has lasted less time the Truss' lettuce before being quietly put to sleep? Did these 'big brains' suggest to Farage that the way to deal with his latest economic 'policy' being fiscally illiterate was to shut down the OBR who took about 5 minutes to determine that said economic plans were fiscally illiterate? The jug eared twat that is Matt Goodwin will probably be one of them...
JJ93 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 1 hour ago, The Mighty Thor said: Who are they then, so we can all see just how big their brains are? With such a heavyweight policy advisory team how come every 'policy' so far has lasted less time the Truss' lettuce before being quietly put to sleep? Did these 'big brains' suggest to Farage that the way to deal with his latest economic 'policy' being fiscally illiterate was to shut down the OBR who took about 5 minutes to determine that said economic plans were fiscally illiterate? You will see their names soon. They are working on a huge policy paper for when Reform are in government and they will pen their names to it. This will mostly be internal but inevitably parts of it will be published when the time comes and the ‘offering’ is structured and argued for in a particular manner. It will also form the basis of the manifesto.
The Mighty Thor Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 42 minutes ago, JJ93 said: You will see their names soon. They are working on a huge policy paper for when Reform are in government and they will pen their names to it. This will mostly be internal but inevitably parts of it will be published when the time comes and the ‘offering’ is structured and argued for in a particular manner. It will also form the basis of the manifesto. Ah jam tomorrow, you'll see when the time is right etc etc Reform will always be very light on detail primarily because when they do issue any kind of 'detail' its generally immediately ripped tp shreds as being palpable nonsense. Nigel likes to be broad & sweeping as you can't be held to any of it. Mind you the majority of the idiots that'll vote for the grifters only care about 'stopping the boats' or 'protecting are women and girls' because that's what Facebook tells them is important. Unfortunately for the grifters the money men need detail and this will make 'Truss-o-nomics' seem like positively Keynesian
Boris Posted January 10 Posted January 10 2 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: If only . Unsure what mechanism could ensure this ? Such faith in democracy! 🙄 2 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: 👍👍 he will shite himself . I can’t see him saying boo to him re this frankly insane prospect . I was thinking a vote of confidence could be on the horizon if the above happened And if it led to Farage in power he would do what to his pal across the pond?
JJ93 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) 45 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Ah jam tomorrow, you'll see when the time is right etc etc Reform will always be very light on detail primarily because when they do issue any kind of 'detail' its generally immediately ripped tp shreds as being palpable nonsense. Nigel likes to be broad & sweeping as you can't be held to any of it. Mind you the majority of the idiots that'll vote for the grifters only care about 'stopping the boats' or 'protecting are women and girls' because that's what Facebook tells them is important. Unfortunately for the grifters the money men need detail and this will make 'Truss-o-nomics' seem like positively Keynesian This is a football forum. I don’t have to give you a random person information about people I know. By the sounds of it you’ll be having a meltdown in 2029, if not before. Have a good Saturday and let’s hope we win tomorrow. 👍 Edited January 10 by JJ93
Konrad von Carstein Posted January 10 Posted January 10 5 minutes ago, JJ93 said: This is a football forum. I don’t have to give you a random person information about people I know. By the sounds of it you’ll be having a meltdown in 2029, if not before. Have a good Saturday and let’s hope we win tomorrow. 👍 You know, socialise and discuss the development reform policy ()with these top professors at Oxbridge and authors in their respective fields? Or know of them?
JJ93 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Just now, Konrad von Carstein said: You know, socialise and discuss the development reform policy ()with these top professors at Oxbridge and authors in their respective fields? Or know of them? Yes I’m friends with a few of them. Some of them taught me at university and I’ve met the others socially. Anyway I’m really on this forum for the football
Konrad von Carstein Posted January 10 Posted January 10 8 minutes ago, JJ93 said: Yes I’m friends with a few of them. Some of them taught me at university and I’ve met the others socially. Anyway I’m really on this forum for the football Appreciate the response, but, you are on a political thread and posting in support of reform, you surely can't be surprised if folk ask you questions...anyway you answered my query I'll let you get back to your day.
JJ93 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 2 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said: Appreciate the response, but, you are on a political thread and posting in support of reform, you surely can't be surprised if folk ask you questions...anyway you answered my query I'll let you get back to your day. Indeed! No problem with your questions. More aimed at the other poster who was asking me for the names. Feel free to ask away if you wish!
The Mighty Thor Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 17 minutes ago, JJ93 said: This is a football forum. I don’t have to give you a random person information about people I know. By the sounds of it you’ll be having a meltdown in 2029, if not before. Have a good Saturday and let’s hope we win tomorrow. 👍 I'll just have to contain my excitement until Zia (head of policy) unleashes this maelstrom of intelligence on us all. By the sounds of it we'll all have nothing to worry about. If Reform had any bright ideas we'd have heard them already and the closer we get to 2029 and if, and its a huge if, Nigel is still in with a sniff then we won't hear a peep from him because he'll be shitting himself tgat he might actually have to implement or deliver in his waffle. Im old enough to remember the last time he promised plenty. He ran away to get a German passport off the back of it.
JJ93 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: I'll just have to contain my excitement until Zia (head of policy) unleashes this maelstrom of intelligence on us all. By the sounds of it we'll all have nothing to worry about. If Reform had any bright ideas we'd have heard them already and the closer we get to 2029 and if, and its a huge if, Nigel is still in with a sniff then we won't hear a peep from him because he'll be shitting himself tgat he might actually have to implement or deliver in his waffle. Im old enough to remember the last time he promised plenty. He ran away to get a German passport off the back of it. The party has many policies. How can you be unaware of this? Just go on Zia’s Instagram and you’ll find many from stamp duty to welfare reform to civil service reform, IHT, military spending and more. One of the key reasons so many Tory voters now intend to vote for Reform is that they have polices unlike Kemi. You do sound like you live in an echo chamber. Edited January 10 by JJ93
Konrad von Carstein Posted January 10 Posted January 10 4 minutes ago, JJ93 said: The party has many policies. How can you be unaware of this? Just go on Zia’s Instagram and you’ll find many from stamp duty to welfare reform to civil service reform, IHT, military spending and more. One of the key reasons so many Tory voters now intend to vote for Reform is that they have polices unlike Kemi. You do sound like you live in an echo chamber. I won't be going near Yusuf's socials, I think protecting rich people's wealth and business profits, cutting red tape aka removing safeguards, gutting public services and reducing tax (see rich people comment) which is a continuation of Gideon and call me Dave's austerity will cover it, that and anything that the corpulent fool Nick Ferrari spews on about on LBC everyday.
The Mighty Thor Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 10 minutes ago, JJ93 said: The party has many policies. How can you be unaware of this? Just go on Zia’s Instagram and you’ll find many from stamp duty to welfare reform to civil service reform, IHT, military spending and more. One of the key reasons so many Tory voters now intend to vote for Reform is that they have polices unlike Kemi. You do sound like you live in an echo chamber. Not on Instagram, I've got pubic hair. This all the stuff the OBR said didn't add up? Interestingly when given the opportunity to flex their policy muscle in the real world they've singularly failed to deliver on their very simple promises and have taken the councils they run to the point of bankruptcy inside 12 months. I keep getting an image of Roy Castle & Norris McWhirter popping into my head. Anyways we'll keep this thread going and no doubt there'll be plenty to comment on when the thin veneer of 'stop the boats' is stripped away and we'll be able to robustly examine the 'top secret' brains trust 👍
Victorian Posted January 10 Posted January 10 Honestly don't know what planet some people are on. Trump takes Greenland = NOBODY does anything about it. Even if there was something you could do about in terms of criticism, nothing you could say will enhance your own national interests. Can't you read a room? It will do Labour in. Will it? To what purpose? To let Reform in? Name your home planet.
JJ93 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Not on Instagram, I've got pubic hair. This all the stuff the OBR said didn't add up? Interestingly when given the opportunity to flex their policy muscle in the real world they've singularly failed to deliver on their very simple promises and have taken the councils they run to the point of bankruptcy inside 12 months. I keep getting an image of Roy Castle & Norris McWhirter popping into my head. Anyways we'll keep this thread going and no doubt there'll be plenty to comment on when the thin veneer of 'stop the boats' is stripped away and we'll be able to robustly examine the 'top secret' brains trust 👍 Out of curiosity who will you vote for, if I may ask?
hughesie27 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 11 hours ago, hughesie27 said: I'm no defender or supporter of Starmer, but where has he/Labour failed where any of the previous Gov's were suceeding? Are there any trends in the general direction we have been headed in over theblast 15 years that have suddenly accelerated for the worse under Labour? So there aren't any then.
The Mighty Thor Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 28 minutes ago, JJ93 said: Out of curiosity who will you vote for, if I may ask? I have in the past voted everything apart from Tory depending on their policies and where the country was at any given point in time. This time round I'll see where we are at the time it comes round. It will not be Tory and it will not be Reform, neither of whom have the interests of the country or its citizens at heart.
JJ93 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 14 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: I have in the past voted everything apart from Tory depending on their policies and where the country was at any given point in time. This time round I'll see where we are at the time it comes round. It will not be Tory and it will not be Reform, neither of whom have the interests of the country or its citizens at heart. The last sentence… Reform literally are putting our citizens first. Which the current government - and the last - did not do.
The Mighty Thor Posted January 10 Author Posted January 10 2 minutes ago, JJ93 said: The last sentence… Reform literally are putting our citizens first. Which the current government - and the last - did not do. Nathan Gill putting Britain first? Farage's opaque funding, he's very coy on where the cash comes from? Reform have and will continue to put the grift first.
hughesie27 Posted January 10 Posted January 10 18 minutes ago, JJ93 said: The last sentence… Reform literally are putting our citizens first. Which the current government - and the last - did not do. Just the white ones.
Konrad von Carstein Posted January 11 Posted January 11 12 hours ago, hughesie27 said: Just the super wealthy ones.
If carlsberg did rivals... Posted January 11 Posted January 11 Starmer got in at the last election, not because people wanted him and Labour more that they didn't want Sunak and the tories, the same reason Farage and reform will win the next election, people are fed up of Labour and the tories.
Statts1976uk Posted January 11 Posted January 11 (edited) On 10/01/2026 at 00:12, JJ93 said: Hardly. We have a fantastic think tank that is working around the clock on our next manifesto and making sure it isn’t just policies. Not many people know this, however. Why would they? But the party has serious brains behind it. Is that why they didn't produce a manifesto at the last election? They produced a series of statements that they couldn't back up with specific costings? There are lots of things about raising tax limits, spending on various other things but little or no explanation on how they plan to fund it apart from some vague statements on "cutting waste". Edited January 11 by Statts1976uk
Tazio Posted January 11 Posted January 11 9 minutes ago, Statts1976uk said: Is that why they didn't produce a manifesto at the last election? They produced a series of statements that they couldn't back up with specific costings? There are lots of things about raising tax limits, spending on various other things but little or no explanation on how they plan to fund it apart from some vague statements on "cutting waste". We’re talking about the party that go rumbled for not paying tax on goods sold on their website as they don’t realise they had to.
Konrad von Carstein Posted January 11 Posted January 11 31 minutes ago, Statts1976uk said: Is that why they didn't produce a manifesto at the last election? They produced a series of statements that they couldn't back up with specific costings? There are lots of things about raising tax limits, spending on various other things but little or no explanation on how they plan to fund it apart from some vague statements on "cutting waste". The "contract" as you allude to is full vague strap lines and a lot of aping of elements of Trumplethinskins policies and language...and as for a serious political party, err I mean company using the word "woke" in an, ahem, policy document jeezo.
Statts1976uk Posted January 11 Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said: The "contract" as you allude to is full vague strap lines and a lot of aping of elements of Trumplethinskins policies and language...and as for a serious political party, err I mean company using the word "woke" in an, ahem, policy document jeezo. It really is!
The Mighty Thor Posted January 11 Author Posted January 11 49 minutes ago, Tazio said: We’re talking about the party that go rumbled for not paying tax on goods sold on their website as they don’t realise they had to. Nigel can't remember if he bought a house or his bird bought or indeed where the 885k cash came from comrades. Big brains but.
Bryson De Jambo Posted January 11 Posted January 11 On 10/01/2026 at 11:15, jack D and coke said: Who said defaulted? They service the debt (pay the interest) or it wouldn’t keep getting bigger. Theres been virtually zero payback since the debt started growing after WW2. I didn’t make it up. Well not paying back a debt is defaulting. So you made the claim. You clearly don’t understand how it works. It’s not like an overdraft. The UK borrow via the bond markets. It pays back every single one of those bonds back at the required date. These bonds are generally fixed terms and traded continually on the market. They are paid back on a daily basis by the very nature of the markets. It’s one of the main reason the UK can borrow so much, it has an excellent credit rate despite a shit show of an economic outlook as it has always paid its debt/bonds back. What you’re getting confused with is the national debt level which is ever increasing. However, that does not mean the uk doesn’t pay its debt. It most certainly does. The national debt has increased as the amount of borrowing we do has increased. We’ve just borrowed from Peter to pay Paul. You might think they’re the same thing; they most certainly aren’t. .
Lovecraft Posted January 12 Posted January 12 29 minutes ago, Victorian said: Nadhim Zahawi has scurried into the tent. Ministerial code breaches and dismissal Zahawi's tax arrangements attracted further public attention in January 2023.[103] This led to widespread review of statements that he had made and his correspondence with investigating journalists. The Prime Minister asked Laurie Magnus, the Independent Adviser on Ministers' Interests, to investigate Zahawi's personal financial arrangements and declarations. The report identified seven breaches of the Ministerial Code and was published on 29 January 2023.[104] The Prime Minister dismissed Zahawi immediately, following the report from the Independent Adviser.[105][106] Zahawi's reply did not mention the breaches or contain an apology for them.[107] Zahawi failed to declare the HMRC investigation to his permanent secretary, and failed to disclose it in his ministerial declaration of interests. He also failed to disclose it to Prime Ministers Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak. In July 2022, Zahawi had said publicly "There have been news stories over the last few days which are inaccurate, unfair and are clearly smears." He did not correct this until January 2023. Magnus found this "inconsistent with the requirement for openness" on ministers.
Dennis Denuto Posted January 12 Posted January 12 45 minutes ago, Victorian said: Nadhim Zahawi has scurried into the tent. Quote In a speech to Reform supporters, Zahawi said issues with free speech "on X or even just down the pub", and anyone trying to earn a living "without getting ground into the dirt" by taxes were reasons for his move. Not really a surprise there, man who got caught not paying taxes doesn't like paying taxes. When are they going to announce Boris?
Victorian Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Zahawi & Farage were asked about the tax question. Farage is something else. Oh it's normal. Anyone who's worked in business like Nadhim knows it's normal that at some time you know you'll have to negotiate with HMRC. I mean, what he could have done was to just move abroad. Disappear. And pay no tax at all. But he didn't. Breathtaking.
The Mighty Thor Posted January 12 Author Posted January 12 Ah the reverse takeover of the very worst of British politics is on track 😂 Uv nO GOt a ChOIce likesy
Dennis Reynolds Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Meet the new guys, same as the old guys but this time it'll definitely be different.
joondalupjambo Posted January 12 Posted January 12 The guy who claimed nearly 6k of tax payers money to heat his stables, that guy. Paid it back when he got caught. Said sorry when he got caught. Grifters to a man.
Lovecraft Posted January 12 Posted January 12 4 minutes ago, Dennis Reynolds said: Meet the new guys, same as the old guys but this time it'll definitely be different. Yup
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 12 Posted January 12 1 hour ago, Lovecraft said: Ministerial code breaches and dismissal Zahawi's tax arrangements attracted further public attention in January 2023.[103] This led to widespread review of statements that he had made and his correspondence with investigating journalists. The Prime Minister asked Laurie Magnus, the Independent Adviser on Ministers' Interests, to investigate Zahawi's personal financial arrangements and declarations. The report identified seven breaches of the Ministerial Code and was published on 29 January 2023.[104] The Prime Minister dismissed Zahawi immediately, following the report from the Independent Adviser.[105][106] Zahawi's reply did not mention the breaches or contain an apology for them.[107] Zahawi failed to declare the HMRC investigation to his permanent secretary, and failed to disclose it in his ministerial declaration of interests. He also failed to disclose it to Prime Ministers Boris Johnson, Liz Truss and Rishi Sunak. In July 2022, Zahawi had said publicly "There have been news stories over the last few days which are inaccurate, unfair and are clearly smears." He did not correct this until January 2023. Magnus found this "inconsistent with the requirement for openness" on ministers. Wow ! Breaking news . People trying to bump paying taxes . Incredible .
il Duce McTarkin Posted January 12 Posted January 12 Just now, JudyJudyJudy said: Wow ! Breaking news . People trying to bump paying taxes . Incredible . Ah, that makes it ok then.
Lovecraft Posted January 12 Posted January 12 2 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Wow ! Breaking news . People trying to bump paying taxes . Incredible . That's illegal. Thought you were all about sticking to the rules of the country?
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 12 Posted January 12 1 minute ago, il Duce McTarkin said: Ah, that makes it ok then. No , it means it’s been happening since taxes were introduced . What’s new ?
JudyJudyJudy Posted January 12 Posted January 12 1 minute ago, Lovecraft said: That's illegal. Thought you were all about sticking to the rules of the country? Did I say it was right to dodge taxes ? No I didn’t .
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