Multiple stabbings on board train

[kila]

33 minutes ago, Dennis Denuto said:

Heard on radio the guy who was arrested but released was actually tazered by the police before his arrest but then released without charge!!

 

Did the taser not work?

[Footballfirst]

1 hour ago, fabienleclerq said:

 

I've not seen but is there anywhere that gives specifics on the drivers actions? 

 

From one of the earlier BBC links

 

The driver of the train has been named as Andrew Johnson, a former Chief Petty Officer in the Royal Navy.

When the alarm was raised, Mr Johnson contacted the control room from his cab to get the train diverted from the fast track to the slow track, which has a platform at Huntingdon.

Mr Johnson's actions are believed to be why emergency services were able to board the train so quickly.

His quick thinking likely prevented the train from stopping in the middle of nowhere or having to go to the next station, which would have taken 10 to 15 minutes.

A trade union officer said the driver is "very shaken" but "good", and commended him for doing "exactly the right thing".

Nigel Roebuck, from Aslef, said: "The driver did everything he was trained to do, at the right time and in the right way.

[Taffin]

8 minutes ago, Footballfirst said:

From one of the earlier BBC links

 

The driver of the train has been named as Andrew Johnson, a former Chief Petty Officer in the Royal Navy.

When the alarm was raised, Mr Johnson contacted the control room from his cab to get the train diverted from the fast track to the slow track, which has a platform at Huntingdon.

Mr Johnson's actions are believed to be why emergency services were able to board the train so quickly.

His quick thinking likely prevented the train from stopping in the middle of nowhere or having to go to the next station, which would have taken 10 to 15 minutes.

A trade union officer said the driver is "very shaken" but "good", and commended him for doing "exactly the right thing".

Nigel Roebuck, from Aslef, said: "The driver did everything he was trained to do, at the right time and in the right way.

 

Looking for the positives in such an horrific attack there was some absolute brilliant and heroic acts from him, the other member of staff and I'm sure many others. It's easy to dwell on the evil, but there's plenty good out there 

Edited November 3 by Taffin

[Dennis Denuto]

4 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Looking for the positives in such an horrific attack there was some absolute brilliant and heroic acts from him, the other member of staff and I'm sure many others. It's easy to dwell on the evil, but there's plenty good out there 

Yeah agreed - those that run towards the danger or act efficiently and effectively under huge pressure is something to be celebrated. 

[Footballfirst]

18 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Looking for the positives in such an horrific attack there was some absolute brilliant and heroic acts from him, the other member of staff and I'm sure many others. It's easy to dwell on the evil, but there's plenty good out there 

It's clearly part of drivers' training on how to act in all sorts of emergency situations.   In June of this year, I was on a train from Kings Cross to Edinburgh, when the train made an unscheduled stop. There was an announcement explaining that it was to allow an ambulance to meet the train at a convenient point to take off someone who had taken unwell. The stop took no more than 5 minutes.

Edited November 3 by Footballfirst

[JudyJudyJudy]

Guy should get a medal . Hopefully he had a few from his military days too . A hero .God bless him 

Edited November 3 by JudyJudyJudy

[JudyJudyJudy]

Dearie me 

 

 

[Maroon Sailor]

11 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

It wasn't an act against the people of Huntingdon. The train had left Peterborough with the incident happening shortly thereafter. After the incident occurred on the train, the driver took the decision (probably following established procedures) to stop at Huntingdon as the closest station where the emergency services could get easy access to the train to deal with whatever was facing them, including dealing with the perpetrator(s) and the evacuation of the injured as well as the rest of the passengers. The train's next scheduled stop was Stevenage.

 

 

The title should be changed. We are talking about a confined space with no means of escape.

[Maroon Sailor]

14 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Guy should get a medal . Hopefully he had a few from his military days too . A hero .God bless him 

 

Military thru life training comes in handy at times like this. You get used to reacting to things that something just kicks in when it's real.

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, Maroon Sailor said:

 

Military thru life training comes in handy at times like this. You get used to reacting to things that something just kicks in when it's real.

Yep . He’s been well trained by the military . Good lad . Got a few ex military mates like him . 

[SwindonJambo]

23 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Dearie me 

 

 

I heard about that earlier. Sounds like a very angry and dangerous human being who should be removed from society asap.

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, SwindonJambo said:

I heard about that earlier. Sounds like a very angry and dangerous human being who should be removed from society asap.

Unfortunately he wasn’t locked up that night 

[SwindonJambo]

9 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Unfortunately he wasn’t locked up that night 

Very true or else the 2nd incident would never have happened. Hopefully the train guard pulls through. The number of assaults on railway staff and abuse they're subjected to -public servants just trying to do their jobs is shameful. Wtf is wrong with people?

[Jacques de Gauthier]

5 minutes ago, SwindonJambo said:

Very true or else the 2nd incident would never have happened. Hopefully the train guard pulls through. The number of assaults on railway staff and abuse they're subjected to -public servants just trying to do their jobs is shameful. Wtf is wrong with people?

We live in a pressurized world. 

[John Findlay]

2 hours ago, fabienleclerq said:

 

I've not seen but is there anywhere that gives specifics on the drivers actions? 

 

From what I've been told. The driver was a former Chief Petty officer in the Royal Navy. So along with the stated procedures, and his training in his previous career, he would have been very cool headed and not panicked.

[fabienleclerq]

1 hour ago, John Findlay said:

From what I've been told. The driver was a former Chief Petty officer in the Royal Navy. So along with the stated procedures, and his training in his previous career, he would have been very cool headed and not panicked.

 

Absolutely,  was just wondering as he would've had to call to get points set for stopping at huntington etc. I was actually wondering if he had to keep cancelling passcoms as id imagine a few must've been set off.

[Dennis Denuto]

I wonder if this story will slip quite quickly down the news agenda now, with no terror, immigrant or deaths it might not hold the interest of the current news cycle for very long.  It will still be relevant for a bit yet as the hero stories get some airtime but then I think they will lose interest and it will be on to the next thing fairly quickly.

 

I ma interested to know what the guys movements and motives were between the two different attacks, we might not find out without seeking the story out though.

[Footballfirst]

He's still in hospital, although not with life threatening injuries.

[whodanny]

7 hours ago, kila said:

 

Did the taser not work?

[John Findlay]

This is the man charged.

 

[FWJ]

Was talking about this with OH last night.

If you’re in a train seat, especially if it’s busy, it’s very difficult to do anything to defend yourself - even getting out of it takes a few, potentially vital, seconds.

[Dennis Denuto]

Looks like this guy was on a 24 hour knifing spree. Very unusual behaviour. 

[OTT]

12 hours ago, Dennis Denuto said:

Man named as Anthony Williams charged with 10 counts of attempted murder.  5 still in hospital with the most serious one being described as stable cut critical.

 

This could have been so much worse, hopefully everyone involved pulls through ok.

 

Shouldn't see the outside of a prison cell again IMO. 

 

I hope he's sentenced in such a way that it runs consecutively. Keep the ******* locked up until he keels over. Someone like that will be an ever present danger to the public at 32, 42, 52 etc. 

 

The train staff and passenger who confronted him/stepped in to defend others deserve medals. I think one guy apparently stuck his heid in the way of a lassie getting stabbed. 

 

This for me, is what knighthoods etc. should be reserved for. 

[Morgan]

We need ‘his sort’ dealt with.

 

Properly.

[Dick Dastardly]

51 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

Shouldn't see the outside of a prison cell again IMO. 

 

I hope he's sentenced in such a way that it runs consecutively. Keep the ******* locked up until he keels over. Someone like that will be an ever present danger to the public at 32, 42, 52 etc. 

 

The train staff and passenger who confronted him/stepped in to defend others deserve medals. I think one guy apparently stuck his heid in the way of a lassie getting stabbed. 

 

This for me, is what knighthoods etc. should be reserved for. 

I suppose it depends on what his motivation for the attacks was. If it was some sort of psychotic episode he should be dealt with in a medical establishment.  If it was drug/alcohol induced or just attacking people for no reason then, yeah, he should be locked up for life, imo. 

The rest of your post i totally agree with.

[SwindonJambo]

1 hour ago, Morgan said:

We need ‘his sort’ dealt with.

 

Properly.

Footage of the arrest being made. Shame the Polis didn't just leave the dug to get on with it and finish the job.

 

https://news.sky.com/video/moment-police-arrest-train-mass-stabbing-suspect-13463179

[il Duce McTarkin]

4 hours ago, SwindonJambo said:

Footage of the arrest being made. Shame the Polis didn't just leave the dug to get on with it and finish the job.

 

https://news.sky.com/video/moment-police-arrest-train-mass-stabbing-suspect-13463179

 

I watched the Polis let the dug have some fun with a well known wee ne'r-do-well in my neighbours back garden one night.

The nasaly wee cock dumped his stolen car out front and tried to run through my neighbours end-terrace garden into the woods behind. When he realised he was trapped he lobbed all his drugs and a kitchen knife over the fence into my garden then tried to hide behind a shed. As the rozzers closed in he attacked them in an attempt to break past, milling punches all about the place. Big mistake. Dug was chowing him for a good five minutes before they took it off. ***^ was howling. I alerted the police to the stash and weapon in my garden (where my then toddlers play during the day), and commended them on their sterling policework.

[El Prez]

3 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

I watched the Polis let the dug have some fun with a well known wee ne'r-do-well in my neighbours back garden one night.

The nasaly wee cock dumped his stolen car out front and tried to run through my neighbours end-terrace garden into the woods behind. When he realised he was trapped he lobbed all his drugs and a kitchen knife over the fence into my garden then tried to hide behind a shed. As the rozzers closed in he attacked them in an attempt to break past, milling punches all about the place. Big mistake. Dug was chowing him for a good five minutes before they took it off. ***^ was howling. I alerted the police to the stash and weapon in my garden (where my then toddlers play during the day), and commended them on their sterling policework.

 

Always a moment of great satisfaction. Have had the pleasure of meeting some lovely police dogs through my work. 

 

Actively encourage the officer to release the Land Shark. A source of great amusement. The dog's enjoy it too. 

 

[Martin B]

7 minutes ago, El Prez said:

 

Always a moment of great satisfaction. Have had the pleasure of meeting some lovely police dogs through my work. 

 

Actively encourage the officer to release the Land Shark. A source of great amusement. The dog's enjoy it too. 

 

🎶Land shark, land shark, what you gonna do.

What you gonna do when it comes for you.🎶

[the posh bit]

5 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

I watched the Polis let the dug have some fun with a well known wee ne'r-do-well in my neighbours back garden one night.

The nasaly wee cock dumped his stolen car out front and tried to run through my neighbours end-terrace garden into the woods behind. When he realised he was trapped he lobbed all his drugs and a kitchen knife over the fence into my garden then tried to hide behind a shed. As the rozzers closed in he attacked them in an attempt to break past, milling punches all about the place. Big mistake. Dug was chowing him for a good five minutes before they took it off. ***^ was howling. I alerted the police to the stash and weapon in my garden (where my then toddlers play during the day), and commended them on their sterling policework.

 

 

Good old fashioned policing. The friendly, firm but fair approach has its place in society but the polis need the odd flex every now and again. 

[Nookie Bear]

Thank goodness there were some angry, middle-aged, white men on board to do the right thing.

 

Could we employ similar sorts as Guardian Angels on our transport system?

[El Prez]

BBC News - Train hero who saved passengers during attack named

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxr4qn6d66

 

 

Good on him, too. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

33 minutes ago, Nookie Bear said:

Thank goodness there were some angry, middle-aged, white men on board to do the right thing.

 

Could we employ similar sorts as Guardian Angels on our transport system?

One even ex military . Well he diverted the train .  Can imagine the seethe from some ! 😄

[Dick Dastardly]

10 minutes ago, El Prez said:

BBC News - Train hero who saved passengers during attack named

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdxr4qn6d66

 

 

Good on him, too. 

Not any more, unless I'm doing something wrong!

[El Prez]

5 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said:

Not any more, unless I'm doing something wrong!

Hmm. Dunno what's gone on there. Piece is on BBC website though.

[Taffin]

So a British born suspect and a hero of the name Samir Zitouni.

 

Not quite the narrative the hard of thinking were/are pushing.

Edited November 4 by Taffin

[davemclaren]

6 minutes ago, Taffin said:

So a British born suspect and a hero of the name Samir Zitouni.

 

Not quite the narrative the hard of thinking were/are pushing.

Quite. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

10 minutes ago, Taffin said:

So a British born suspect and a hero of the name Samir Zitouni.

 

Not quite the narrative the hard of thinking were/are pushing.

No really . Plenty people of different heritages have been heros in these types of  incidents . Law of averages an all . 

[kila]

2 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

No really . Plenty people of different heritages have been heros in these types of  incidents . Law of averages an all . 

 

 

[sadj]

7 minutes ago, davemclaren said:

Quite. 

Absolutely, sadly and yet the same utterly worthless people will still claim they arent bigots or racists and are infact the protectors of our women and children that Elon Musk claims they are. 

Edited November 4 by sadj

[hughesie27]

15 minutes ago, Taffin said:

So a British born suspect and a hero of the name Samir Zitouni.

 

Not quite the narrative the hard of thinking were/are pushing.

Paid actor.

[Taffin]

2 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

No really . Plenty people of different heritages have been heros in these types of  incidents . Law of averages an all . 

 

Read back on the thread. There was an immediate flood about immigration and "dingys".

 

You don't need to tell me people of different heritages have been heroes...I'm not one of the ones spouting guff.

[Taffin]

1 minute ago, hughesie27 said:

Paid actor.

 

😂

 

Government plant. Left leaning false flag event. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Read back on the thread. There was an immediate flood about immigration and "dingys".

 

You don't need to tell me people of different heritages have been heroes...I'm not one of the ones spouting guff.

Maybe tell the ones spouting “ guff “ then ? 
 

 

[Taffin]

Just now, JudyJudyJudy said:

Maybe tell the ones spouting “ guff “ then ? 
 

 

 

I did, there's plenty of them reading and posting on this thread.

 

What's the phrase? "I can imagine the seethe" is it?

[JudyJudyJudy]

4 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

I did, there's plenty of them reading and posting on this thread.

 

What's the phrase? "I can imagine the seethe" is it?

😎

[The Mighty Thor]

This is not going the way Rupert Lowe and the arseholes pumping shite into the eyeballs of the weak minded thought it was going to. 

 

 

[Mikey1874]

35 minutes ago, Taffin said:

So a British born suspect and a hero of the name Samir Zitouni.

 

Not quite the narrative the hard of thinking were/are pushing.

 

Need to check if Sam Zitouri from Algeria has indefinite leave to remain so facing deportation under Reform (the Conservatives changed their mind last week just in time).

[il Duce McTarkin]

22 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

Paid actor.

 

Them that were on that front bus, actors, actors, the lot ae them actors.

 

[Dennis Denuto]

20 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

I did, there's plenty of them reading and posting on this thread.

 

What's the phrase? "I can imagine the seethe" is it?

The person who decided to respond to you had posted literally moments before in praise of a post about angry white people saving the day on the train and how the fact one was ex military would annoy people.

 

I would say you couldn't make it up, but it happens on a daily basis.