Multiple stabbings on board train

[Cameronstheman]

Multiple people stabbed on train in Cambridgeshire as Starmer calls incident 'deeply concerning' - latest - BBC News

[Mister T]

Not good. The language that's being used is ominous. 

[heatonjambo]

Apparently stopping trains across the country

 

must be worried over wider attacks

 

scary stuff

[whodanny]

9 minutes ago, heatonjambo said:

Apparently stopping trains across the country

 

must be worried over wider attacks

 

scary stuff

Indeed !  I just got off the train from Haymarket a few hours ago. Sobering thought.

[Victorian]

Might indicate wider intelligence.   Even this one incident sounds pretty bad.   

[hughesie27]

Strange that so little is being released. 

[Cameronstheman]

1 minute ago, hughesie27 said:

Strange that so little is being released. 

I dont think the authorities can and for a multitude of reasons

 

The fact that it was indicated, that there were ''Multiple Stabbings'' and our PM was quick to respond, is worrying for me 

[Oda be a JT]

Seen something on social media but not a lot of information 

 

have I been living under a rock with “doctor/surgeon” references I seen

 

I’m genuinely baffled at what’s going on

[Ulysses]

4 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

Strange that so little is being released. 

 

About what?

 

 

Just now, Cameronstheman said:

I dont think the authorities can and for a multitude of reasons

 

Yep. They're still managing the crime scene, and they're probably not yet in a position to release information about the people who have been taken to hospital.

 

 

Just now, Cameronstheman said:

 

The fact that it was indicated, that there were ''Multiple Stabbings'' and our PM was quick to respond, is worrying for me 

 

Indeed.  You'd have to hope that there won't be any deaths, but given that a large number of people have been hospitalised there's a real possibility of that.

[hughesie27]

3 minutes ago, Cameronstheman said:

I dont think the authorities can and for a multitude of reasons

 

The fact that it was indicated, that there were ''Multiple Stabbings'' and our PM was quick to respond, is worrying for me 

I understand most of that but to have 2 people in custody but nothing about them yet is odd. Also no concrete info on the exact number of victims. 

Seems to be more restricted than your normal "on going investigation" spiel you would normally expect.

[hughesie27]

1 minute ago, Ulysses said:

 

About what?

 

 

 

Yep. They're still managing the crime scene, and they're probably not yet in a position to release information about the people who have been taken to hospital.

 

 

 

Indeed.  You'd have to hope that there won't be any deaths, but given that a large number of people have been hospitalised there's a real possibility of that.

See above. 
There have been similar stabbings in recent months/years where someone is in custody and they aren't this 'slow' to release some info about them. 
 

[Cameronstheman]

1 minute ago, hughesie27 said:

I understand most of that but to have 2 people in custody but nothing about them yet is odd. Also no concrete info on the exact number of victims. 

Seems to be more restricted than your normal "on going investigation" spiel you would normally expect.

I don't think so Hughesie and I'm sure in time, that opinion of mine will be vindicated 

 

Its by and large breaking news, updates will follow 

[Ulysses]

Just now, hughesie27 said:

See above. 
There have been similar stabbings in recent months/years where someone is in custody and they aren't this 'slow' to release some info about them. 
 

 

The emergency call was four and a bit hours ago, and the crime scene seems to have been quite chaotic, which could explain why there's limited information about numbers taken to hospital.  Also, I wouldn't expect to hear anything about the people in custody for a couple of hours more, maybe even until tomorrow morning.  So it doesn't seem all that slow to me.  

[Cameronstheman]

8 minutes ago, hughesie27 said:

See above. 
There have been similar stabbings in recent months/years where someone is in custody and they aren't this 'slow' to release some info about them. 
 

Like straight away, when was that ??

[hughesie27]

7 minutes ago, Cameronstheman said:

Like straight away, when was that ??

Recent example from Manchester Stabbings had info on the deceased and numbers in Hospital just under 3 hours of the incident. 

That said, clearly you can't compare these 2 incidents.

 

News just coming through now that 10 taken to hospital and no deaths as yet thankfully.

Edited Sunday at 00:32 by hughesie27

[Cameronstheman]

1 minute ago, hughesie27 said:

Recent example from Manchester Stabbings had info on the deceased and numbers in Hospital just under 3 hours of the incident. 

That said, clearly you can't compare these 2 incidents.

 

News just coming through now that 10 taken to hospital and no deaths as yet thankfully.

Its not 3hrs since the incident and  this is hardly similar

 

Phone up the Metropolitan Police Force and kick up ferk, demanding they at least match the  Manchester Police when responding to the viewer with information ,as its not good enough for you 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Oda be a JT]

News saying ten people stabbed

[hughesie27]

1 minute ago, Cameronstheman said:

Its not 3hrs since the incident and  this is hardly similar

 

Phone up the Metropolitan Police Force and kick up ferk, demanding they at least match the  Manchester Police when responding to the viewer with information ,as its not good enough for you 

re 

It's been 4 and a bit hours since according to Uly. 

They aren't identical, but nor are they too different. I literally said it's difficult to compare the two scenarios though. 

Not sure why you've decided to get a bit arsey over it. 

 

As I pointed out the police have since given an update which seems positive to the victims so far. 

[Oda be a JT]

Just now, Oda be a JT said:

News saying ten people stabbed

Nine with life threatening injuries 

[Ulysses]

8 minutes ago, Cameronstheman said:

Phone up the Metropolitan Police Force and kick up ferk, demanding they at least match the  Manchester Police when responding to the viewer with information ,as its not good enough for you 

 

Are the Met involved? Cambridgeshire Police and British Transport Police are the actual police forces at the scene, according to BBC and Sky News.

 

[Tazio]

23 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

Are the Met involved? Cambridgeshire Police and British Transport Police are the actual police forces at the scene, according to BBC and Sky News.

 

I’d say depending on what they think is the motivation for the attack is that the Met would be involved as they will have specialist teams. 

[JimmyCant]

19 minutes ago, Tazio said:

I’d say depending on what they think is the motivation for the attack is that the Met would be involved as they will have specialist teams. 

If it’s ‘terrorism’ the Met have the overriding jurisdiction no matter where in England it happened (quite possibly Scotland and Wales too)

[Ulysses]

22 minutes ago, Tazio said:

I’d say depending on what they think is the motivation for the attack is that the Met would be involved as they will have specialist teams. 

 

Ah, makes sense.  I saw a news report on Sky where an interviewee referred to three police forces being involved.

[SwindonJambo]

BBC 5live saying the local force are being supported by Counter Terrorism Police.

[InternationalJambo]

Racist imo. 

[Mac_fae_Gillie]

My biggest worry is things like this just feed the Reform voting numbers, with this attack and no doubt a few more across Europe in run up to Christmas Reform must be loving every attack.

[hughesie27]

3 hours ago, Mac_fae_Gillie said:

My biggest worry is things like this just feed the Reform voting numbers, with this attack and no doubt a few more across Europe in run up to Christmas Reform must be loving every attack.

Playing decils advocate. If these incidents keep happening and the perpetrators are exactly those who Reform are warning against then is it not inevitable that more and more people give them support?

[Shooter McGavin]

4 hours ago, Mac_fae_Gillie said:

My biggest worry is things like this just feed the Reform voting numbers, with this attack and no doubt a few more across Europe in run up to Christmas Reform must be loving every attack.

My biggest worry is attacks like this happening in the first place to be honest.

[GinRummy]

4 hours ago, Mac_fae_Gillie said:

My biggest worry is things like this just feed the Reform voting numbers, with this attack and no doubt a few more across Europe in run up to Christmas Reform must be loving every attack.

I find it much more worrying there are people stabbing innocent train passengers. 

[GBJambo]

5 hours ago, Mac_fae_Gillie said:

My biggest worry is things like this just feed the Reform voting numbers, with this attack and no doubt a few more across Europe in run up to Christmas Reform must be loving every attack.

What a ****ing ridiculous thing to say 

[Maroon Sailor]

6 hours ago, Mac_fae_Gillie said:

My biggest worry is things like this just feed the Reform voting numbers, with this attack and no doubt a few more across Europe in run up to Christmas Reform must be loving every attack.

 

I doubt Reform would even exist if it wasn't for this man

 

[Australis]

After the Southport murders of innocent children, the police said to stop speculation they were immediately going to announce the description and ethnicity of people involved in future attacks.

 

 

[hughesie27]

4 minutes ago, Australis said:

After the Southport murders of innocent children, the police said to stop speculation they were immediately going to announce the description and ethnicity of people involved in future attacks.

 

 

No they never.

[JudyJudyJudy]

6 hours ago, Mac_fae_Gillie said:

My biggest worry is things like this just feed the Reform voting numbers, with this attack and no doubt a few more across Europe in run up to Christmas Reform must be loving every attack.

Wow 

[John Findlay]

The stabbings didn't take place in Huntingdon.

The stabbings, unfortunately took place on a train that was travelling between Doncaster and London Kings Cross.

The attacks happened just after the train departed from Peterborough. The safest place the driver could stop the train was Huntingdon station in order that police both from the BTP and Cambridgeshire could board the train to deal with the perpetrators and ambulances could get to the injured(Ten persons, of which Nine have life threatening injuries) to take them to hospital. 

[Seaside Dave]

Seems like this is the norm now in the UK. Only going to get worse. Government on its knees and same statement after statement each time.

 

"Another night of chaos. Ten people stabbed on a train from Doncaster to London - nine of them are now fighting for their lives. A “major incident,” say police. Counterterrorism teams called in. Two suspects were arrested after armed officers stormed the carriages at Huntingdon. Witnesses describe panic and bloodshed, passengers screaming as police shouted for everyone to get down.

 

My thoughts are with the victims and their families after this horrific attack, and with the emergency responders who once again ran toward danger while everyone else ran from it. They should never have to face scenes like this, yet they do, time and time again.

 

And still - still - the same hollow words from Downing Street.

Keir Starmer calls it “deeply concerning.” The Home Secretary says she’s “deeply saddened.” It’s the same tired script wheeled out after every atrocity, and it no longer carries any weight.

 

Because earlier this week, another innocent life was lost. Wayne Broadhurst, an ordinary man out walking his dog. He tried to stop an attack being carried out by an Afghan migrant who had originally entered the UK illegally, on two others including a young boy, and paid with his life. No statement from ministers. No tribute from the Prime Minister. Just silence.

 

How many times can this happen before we admit the obvious, that something in Britain has gone terribly wrong?

 

 

Time and time again, when confronted with violence, Westminster bends the knees, it hides behind inquiries and carefully worded statements of “deep concern.” The world sees it for what it is, a nation too afraid of offence, too slow to act, and too eager to placate.

 

And the British public is sick of being shouted down for saying so.

Tired of being branded “racist,” “xenophobic,” or “far-right” for demanding safety on their own streets."

 

 

[hughesie27]

2 men born in UK one Black one of Carribean descent. Both in their 30s.

 

4 people discharge and 2 still in life threatening condition.

Not terrorist related.

Edited Sunday at 10:45 by hughesie27

[Taffin]

13 minutes ago, Seaside Dave said:

Seems like this is the norm now in the UK. Only going to get worse. Government on its knees and same statement after statement each time.

 

"Another night of chaos. Ten people stabbed on a train from Doncaster to London - nine of them are now fighting for their lives. A “major incident,” say police. Counterterrorism teams called in. Two suspects were arrested after armed officers stormed the carriages at Huntingdon. Witnesses describe panic and bloodshed, passengers screaming as police shouted for everyone to get down.

 

My thoughts are with the victims and their families after this horrific attack, and with the emergency responders who once again ran toward danger while everyone else ran from it. They should never have to face scenes like this, yet they do, time and time again.

 

And still - still - the same hollow words from Downing Street.

Keir Starmer calls it “deeply concerning.” The Home Secretary says she’s “deeply saddened.” It’s the same tired script wheeled out after every atrocity, and it no longer carries any weight.

 

Because earlier this week, another innocent life was lost. Wayne Broadhurst, an ordinary man out walking his dog. He tried to stop an attack being carried out by an Afghan migrant who had originally entered the UK illegally, on two others including a young boy, and paid with his life. No statement from ministers. No tribute from the Prime Minister. Just silence.

 

How many times can this happen before we admit the obvious, that something in Britain has gone terribly wrong?

 

 

Time and time again, when confronted with violence, Westminster bends the knees, it hides behind inquiries and carefully worded statements of “deep concern.” The world sees it for what it is, a nation too afraid of offence, too slow to act, and too eager to placate.

 

And the British public is sick of being shouted down for saying so.

Tired of being branded “racist,” “xenophobic,” or “far-right” for demanding safety on their own streets."

 

 

 

I don't really see why skin colour even comes into it tbh. This was 2 British nationals attacking other British nationals. It's their own streets too.

 

How do you propose we solve it? Deport anyone who isn't white?

 

I agree with you about Britain being in a pickle and soft about this sort of thing but I think it's an issue about Britain and Brits rather than races imo.

Edited Sunday at 10:54 by Taffin

[JudyJudyJudy]

13 minutes ago, Seaside Dave said:

Seems like this is the norm now in the UK. Only going to get worse. Government on its knees and same statement after statement each time.

 

"Another night of chaos. Ten people stabbed on a train from Doncaster to London - nine of them are now fighting for their lives. A “major incident,” say police. Counterterrorism teams called in. Two suspects were arrested after armed officers stormed the carriages at Huntingdon. Witnesses describe panic and bloodshed, passengers screaming as police shouted for everyone to get down.

 

My thoughts are with the victims and their families after this horrific attack, and with the emergency responders who once again ran toward danger while everyone else ran from it. They should never have to face scenes like this, yet they do, time and time again.

 

And still - still - the same hollow words from Downing Street.

Keir Starmer calls it “deeply concerning.” The Home Secretary says she’s “deeply saddened.” It’s the same tired script wheeled out after every atrocity, and it no longer carries any weight.

 

Because earlier this week, another innocent life was lost. Wayne Broadhurst, an ordinary man out walking his dog. He tried to stop an attack being carried out by an Afghan migrant who had originally entered the UK illegally, on two others including a young boy, and paid with his life. No statement from ministers. No tribute from the Prime Minister. Just silence.

 

How many times can this happen before we admit the obvious, that something in Britain has gone terribly wrong?

 

 

Time and time again, when confronted with violence, Westminster bends the knees, it hides behind inquiries and carefully worded statements of “deep concern.” The world sees it for what it is, a nation too afraid of offence, too slow to act, and too eager to placate.

 

And the British public is sick of being shouted down for saying so.

Tired of being branded “racist,” “xenophobic,” or “far-right” for demanding safety on their own streets."

 

 

Good posting mate 

[JudyJudyJudy]

All very depressing . Must have been horrifying on that train as you literally could not flee . Poor souls .

[El Prez]

[Ron Burgundy]

5 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

I don't really see why skin colour even comes into it tbh. This was 2 British nationals attacking other British nationals. It's their own streets too.

 

How do you propose we solve it? Deport anyone who isn't white?

 

I agree with you about Britain being in a pickle and soft about this sort of thing but I think it's an issue about Britain and Brits rather than races imo.

It’s not about nationality or colour of skin. It’s about ideology. If you follow a backward one to the letter then it’s an issue. 

[Australis]

5 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

All very depressing . Must have been horrifying on that train as you literally could not flee . Poor souls .

Could happen on any bus or train now.

Innocent people with nowhere to run to if cornered.

 

So many left to wonder who is sitting beside them or behind them.

Must be real fear especially for our elderly or people with anxiety etc.

 

Media and police seem to be treating so many street attacks, stabbings, and rapes as if it's the norm now. 😔

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, Australis said:

Could happen on any bus or train now.

Innocent people with nowhere to run to if cornered.

 

So many left to wonder who is sitting beside them or behind them.

Must be real fear especially for our elderly or people with anxiety etc.

 

Media and police seem to be treating so many street attacks, stabbings, and rapes as if it's the norm now. 😔

Very sad state this country had got into now . Every single day there’s a murder or rape or serious assaults reported .

[Seaside Dave]

13 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

I don't really see why skin colour even comes into it tbh. This was 2 British nationals attacking other British nationals. It's their own streets too.

 

How do you propose we solve it? Deport anyone who isn't white?

 

I agree with you about Britain being in a pickle and soft about this sort of thing but I think it's an issue about Britain and Brits rather than races imo.

Tbh mate apart from the top para of my comment it was copied and pasted. I took out some of the quote because it was a politician from northern Ireland who mentioned the troubles here through the years and certain groups who brought murder to our streets. I took those bits out as didn't want the topic to go into that when it's about these stabbings etc.  

 

I honestly have no idea how to stop things like this happening. But from years ago you sensed so much fear hearing about this stuff. But now it seems even more re occuring and that's a huge worry. I always compare what 10 years ago was like to what 10 years in the future could be and as a father of 2 girls aged 4 and 7 I dread what 10 years would be on the streets 

[Dick Dastardly]

31 minutes ago, Seaside Dave said:

Seems like this is the norm now in the UK. Only going to get worse. Government on its knees and same statement after statement each time.

 

"Another night of chaos. Ten people stabbed on a train from Doncaster to London - nine of them are now fighting for their lives. A “major incident,” say police. Counterterrorism teams called in. Two suspects were arrested after armed officers stormed the carriages at Huntingdon. Witnesses describe panic and bloodshed, passengers screaming as police shouted for everyone to get down.

 

My thoughts are with the victims and their families after this horrific attack, and with the emergency responders who once again ran toward danger while everyone else ran from it. They should never have to face scenes like this, yet they do, time and time again.

 

And still - still - the same hollow words from Downing Street.

Keir Starmer calls it “deeply concerning.” The Home Secretary says she’s “deeply saddened.” It’s the same tired script wheeled out after every atrocity, and it no longer carries any weight.

 

Because earlier this week, another innocent life was lost. Wayne Broadhurst, an ordinary man out walking his dog. He tried to stop an attack being carried out by an Afghan migrant who had originally entered the UK illegally, on two others including a young boy, and paid with his life. No statement from ministers. No tribute from the Prime Minister. Just silence.

 

How many times can this happen before we admit the obvious, that something in Britain has gone terribly wrong?

 

 

Time and time again, when confronted with violence, Westminster bends the knees, it hides behind inquiries and carefully worded statements of “deep concern.” The world sees it for what it is, a nation too afraid of offence, too slow to act, and too eager to placate.

 

And the British public is sick of being shouted down for saying so.

Tired of being branded “racist,” “xenophobic,” or “far-right” for demanding safety on their own streets."

 

 

On the same day as Wayne Broadhurst was stabbed there was a glut of stabbings and shootings over a 6hr period. I don't believe there were any statements made by ministers over those , either. I could be wrong though 

https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/25579102.two-dead-seven-london-stabbing-shootings-one-day/

 

[GBJambo]

State of the country right now. 
 

No where is safe. Stammer is “concerned” though 

[Taffin]

16 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

It’s not about nationality or colour of skin. It’s about ideology. If you follow a backward one to the letter then it’s an issue. 

 

Yeh agreed, but how do you actually action something tangible to do anything about it? Ban following religions in the UK? Ban some of them? 

 

What about those who don't follow them to the letter? 

 

I'm not disagreeing with you or @Seaside Dave, I just don't know what can actually be done. Policing an ideology, particularly ones followed peacefully by billions feels impossible. Boiling horrific acts down to race or religion just demonises people imo and furthers divide.

 

There will many black people horrified, saddened and quite probably directly impacted this morning the same as white people.

 

6 minutes ago, Seaside Dave said:

Tbh mate apart from the top para of my comment it was copied and pasted. I took out some of the quote because it was a politician from northern Ireland who mentioned the troubles here through the years and certain groups who brought murder to our streets. I took those bits out as didn't want the topic to go into that when it's about these stabbings etc.  

 

I honestly have no idea how to stop things like this happening. But from years ago you sensed so much fear hearing about this stuff. But now it seems even more re occuring and that's a huge worry. I always compare what 10 years ago was like to what 10 years in the future could be and as a father of 2 girls aged 4 and 7 I dread what 10 years would be on the streets 

 

I get where you're coming from but without really being able to do anything about it I feel you just need to see the good until evil presents itself in some ways. Both yesterday and London Bridge were very close to home for me and my social circle. I'll still be on a train next week and carrying on as usual.

[indianajones]

Ten people stabbed.

 

Not a terrorist incident? Eh?

[AlphonseCapone]

21 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Very sad state this country had got into now . Every single day there’s a murder or rape or serious assaults reported .

 

Are you saying the rate of murder, rape and serious assault is worse now?

 

20 minutes ago, Seaside Dave said:

Tbh mate apart from the top para of my comment it was copied and pasted.  

 

You should have stated you were quoting someone or at least quoted a source. I actually find it disturbing you're copying an pasting someone else's words and passing them off as your own until someone questions you on it. This is how all the misinformation and bullshit that boomers fall for on Facebook happens. Honestly, have whatever opinion you want, but at least state your own or be clear when you're not.