***Official Heart of Midlothian v Dundee United Match Thread***

[AndyNic]

Shankland possibly out with a minor injury.

[Hungry hippo]

18 minutes ago, AndyNic said:

Shankland possibly out with a minor injury.

 

McInnes' comments indicate that he's fully expecting Shankland to play and was just rested from training as a precaution 

[tartofmidlothian]

1 hour ago, AndyNic said:

Shankland possibly out with a minor injury.

 

It's wild that we're in a position where this wouldn't worry me hugely, if it was just for one game. I'd feel more sad for Shanks if he was denied his Scotland comeback, although obviously that could be better for us.

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

Pure clickbait that Shankland story, got a minor knock on his foot and may even have been training today, bottom of the story only Pollock and Hof out, even Kent and Fulton are back

[OmiyaHearts]

Even if Shankland needs rested for this game, it's no major concern. We have goals all over the front line.

[MattyK82]

2 hours ago, AndyNic said:

Shankland possibly out with a minor injury.

Na, he’s fine 😎

[Rudy T]

Took a sore one against Dundee. If we are cruising on Sunday get him off early and give him a rest. Not that I think we will be, tough game I suspect.

[BigStein]

McInnes confirms that it should just be Hof and Pollock unavailable at the weekend with Ageu, Kent and Fulton returning to training. 

 

Hearts player out for up to six weeks, plus a Lawrence Shankland issue and Ageu update ahead of Dundee United

 

Hof will be out for 4 to 6 weeks. There doesn't seem to be an end in sight for Pollock

[OmiyaHearts]

I can only assume when press write about Hof they mix up weeks with months. Guy has spend majority of his time here on the treatment table - missed 52 games since joining July 2023.

 

Interestingly, he was injury free for four years until he joined us.

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

I’d take a scrappy 1-0 gladly but if we could somehow put 3* or 4 past united the panic in the celtic fans will hit the roof with a full international break to enjoy it

 

turns out st martin who blew one league title in the last 2 minutes and lost another one on the last day and one of his most celebrated seasons was when rangers won the treble is not the messiah after all ☹️

 

* preferably with scorers like kabore mags kerjote etc - players most of them dont realise exist in our wafer-thin squad

 

 

Edited November 7 by MoncurMacdonaldMercer

[Carter]

Shankland has excellent for us this season. Really important he's available. 

[Nelly Terraces]

Apart from beating their near neighbours at Dens The Arabs haven't won out of Dundee this season & have been very inconsistent, beaten off Killie twice already but beat St Mingin 3-1 recently.

 

We have far too much for them in every single department. The lads have had a good break with no midweek game so it's a win by at least 2 clear goals on Sunday. I'd say 4-1 actually.

 

Bring it on. HHGH. 

[pettigrewsstylist]

We need to defend set peices properly. Its where they can get some joy.

[GinRummy]

2 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said:

We need to defend set peices properly. Its where they can get some joy.

After us scoring from 2 corners at Tannadice and them conceding a pen from another they’ll be saying the same thing  

Edited November 7 by GinRummy

[Jim Panzee]

On 05/11/2025 at 16:54, OmiyaHearts said:

Interestingly, he was injury free for four years until he joined us.

sack anyone who has anything remotely to do with the medical side of the club. including even the last person to refill the first aid box in the back office staff room.

 

stop using the Oriam and revert back to Gullane for training. Problem solved. 

[Hertz21]

Really hope to see Ageu on Sunday! The wait is making my excitement grow

[WheatfieldWarrior]

On 05/11/2025 at 16:54, OmiyaHearts said:

I can only assume when press write about Hof they mix up weeks with months. Guy has spend majority of his time here on the treatment table - missed 52 games since joining July 2023.

 

Interestingly, he was injury free for four years until he joined us.

 

Was he though? or is it that transfermarkt or whatever doesn't have injury data for the Ausie league for that period?

[damo]

2 hours ago, Jim Panzee said:

sack anyone who has anything remotely to do with the medical side of the club. including even the last person to refill the first aid box in the back office staff room.

 

stop using the Oriam and revert back to Gullane for training. Problem solved. 

[Cade]

On 05/11/2025 at 15:58, OmiyaHearts said:

Even if Shankland needs rested for this game, it's no major concern. We have goals all over the front line.

 

Braga, Kabangu, Kabore, Wilson.....we'll be fine.

 

 

[upgotheheads]

26 minutes ago, WheatfieldWarrior said:

 

Was he though? or is it that transfermarkt or whatever doesn't have injury data for the Ausie league for that period?

 

If it's Hof you're talking about, ( I can't be arsed to scroll back)  I think he'd had a few injury problems in Oz before he came to us.

[upgotheheads]

It's interesting how every game we play now is under more and more pressure. Everyone is waiting for us to fail, and games in which a draw wouldn't have been that bad a result now need to be wins.

 

Dundee United will come at us with all guns blazing, I think, hoping to get an early goal and get to halftime with a lead they can defend for the rest of the game. I think McInnes will do the same, to get the early goal which would mean they have to attack us for 90 minutes. 

[Born Again Nade]

8 minutes ago, upgotheheads said:

It's interesting how every game we play now is under more and more pressure. Everyone is waiting for us to fail, and games in which a draw wouldn't have been that bad a result now need to be wins.

 

Dundee United will come at us with all guns blazing, I think, hoping to get an early goal and get to halftime with a lead they can defend for the rest of the game. I think McInnes will do the same, to get the early goal which would mean they have to attack us for 90 minutes. 

They were very unlucky not to win at Ibrokes fairly recently, although scored a worldy. I hope they do come at us so we can scud them stupid. I can see this being a close game, but also see it being a romping. Depends on small margins sometimes. They are so inconsistent.

We'll need to be on it to win at any sort of canter, but I have faith that we can do that.

Edited November 7 by Born Again Nade

[PapaShango]

48 minutes ago, Born Again Nade said:

They were very unlucky not to win at Ibrokes fairly recently, although scored a worldy. I hope they do come at us so we can scud them stupid. I can see this being a close game, but also see it being a romping. Depends on small margins sometimes. They are so inconsistent.

We'll need to be on it to win at any sort of canter, but I have faith that we can do that.

I watched their game against Hibs a few weeks back and their keeper was an accident waiting to happen every cross ball into the box. Weak as they come and got nowhere near the ball. They were quick and dangerous on the break though so we will need to play well to win. Massive game with the break coming up, 3 points here sets us up nicely for the trip to Aberdeen where we surely have to end that horrible run without a win! 

[N Lincs Jambo]

Looking at their form this season they are very much "hit and miss". Three wins, three defeats and four draws. They score and concede regularly so as long as we do our job well at the back, we should win comfortably. It's very much the sort of game we need to win comfortably to keep the momentum going.

[DxB Hearts]

If, and it is a big if, Shankland is out then a front two of Kabore and Braga will be really interesting to see. Could work amazingly well but a brand new partnership always takes a little time to settle. 

[kingantti1874]

A banana skin for sure. The most Jekyll and Hyde team in the league.  I don’t expect them to come at us all guns blazing. I expect them to sit and hope to catch us on the break or from a set play. 

[rmreido]

Tough game, I suspect, but 2-0 Hearts, the goals will come late on as Utd will set up for a point.

[WheatfieldWarrior]

3 hours ago, upgotheheads said:

 

If it's Hof you're talking about, ( I can't be arsed to scroll back)  I think he'd had a few injury problems in Oz before he came to us.

 

Yep.

[AndrewB]

A bit of a tangent, a tangerine tangent if you like, but what makes someone in Dundee a DFC or a DUFC fan?  That's not a Why-Would-You-Support-Either-Of-These-Muppets question but I wonder why fans go for one rather than the other?  

 

I know the old Dundee Hibs thing, but is that a factor in the last few generations?  Is it a west vs east or city centre v suburbs?  I know it's Dundee we're talking about, so there probably isn't much of a middle class, but do the better classes migrate to one club over the other?  Who do Dundee's Warrior Poets support?

 

I presume the biggest factor is family traditions or were you a really old glory hunter or an 80s glory hunter?

[feedthefox]

6 hours ago, Hertz21 said:

Really hope to see Ageu on Sunday! The wait is making my excitement grow

 

Yes me too. Hopefully he's been down the Oriam getting plenty fitness work done and we get him on when cruising 3-0 for another teaser of a cameo.

[The Treasurer]

2 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:

A banana skin for sure. The most Jekyll and Hyde team in the league.  I don’t expect them to come at us all guns blazing. I expect them to sit and hope to catch us on the break or from a set play. 

I don't think any team will come out "all guns blazing"

Whatever game plan they have, this will be a very tough game 

[GinRummy]

4 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

I don't think any team will come out "all guns blazing"

Whatever game plan they have, this will be a very tough game 

I don’t think it will be tough.  Quite the opposite I reckon this will be a comfortable game. 

[One five]

3-0 Hearts ♥️ 

[Morgan]

2-1 Hearts.

[The Treasurer]

13 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

I don’t think it will be tough.  Quite the opposite I reckon this will be a comfortable game. 

🤞

[south morocco]

12 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

I don’t think it will be tough.  Quite the opposite I reckon this will be a comfortable game. 

I think it’ll be tougher than last week but we’ll still get the win. 2-1 

[maybolejambo]

Quite confident for this one but not so sure about Aberdeen. That crap Cypriot team have gave them a wee boost last night.

[Star Lizard]

Funny team this season. Hard to predict how they will be. They seem to score a few goals though. All of Scotland want us to slip up, and Goodwin would love to be the mastermind of that particular mission. Teams are going to lifting their game against us more and more as the season continues. We need to match that. If we do, then we should fear nobody until things get reshuffled in January.

[N Lincs Jambo]

37 minutes ago, AndrewB said:

A bit of a tangent, a tangerine tangent if you like, but what makes someone in Dundee a DFC or a DUFC fan?  That's not a Why-Would-You-Support-Either-Of-These-Muppets question but I wonder why fans go for one rather than the other?  

 

I know the old Dundee Hibs thing, but is that a factor in the last few generations?  Is it a west vs east or city centre v suburbs?  I know it's Dundee we're talking about, so there probably isn't much of a middle class, but do the better classes migrate to one club over the other?  Who do Dundee's Warrior Poets support?

 

I presume the biggest factor is family traditions or were you a really old glory hunter or an 80s glory hunter?

 

Good questions. I don't think the "Dundee Hibs" thing was ever an issue as the club became Dundee United in 1909 at a time when Dundee were so far ahead there was no real rivalry. Up until the 1960s at the earliest Dundee was by far the bigger club. United started to get its shit together in the 60s under Jerry Kerr and then in the 70s and 80s under Jim McLean.

 

Dundee went down in the first season of the 10 team premier league in 75-76 and have pretty much been a yo-yo team ever since. I would say that Dundee were still the bigger club at that time.

 

United and Aberdeen stayed up on GD, realised what a close shave it had been, got their act together and built towards their combined hey day in the 80s. United won 3 major trophies and Aberdeen 10 in that time. United, although they never won a European trophy were probably the most consistent Scottish club in European competition in the 80s getting to at least the QFs six years in a row, the European Cup SF in 84 and the UEFA Cup Final in 87. When we beat them 4-1 at Tynecastle in the first game of 87-88 that really was a top side we beat that day.

 

I lived in Dundee for 4 years in the 80s and went to quite a few Dundee derbies. I could never understand why there was segregation at these games especially as their hooligan mobs combined to form their Utility mob in the casual era. The pubs around the grounds were always mixed and I can't say I ever saw any trouble between the two sets of fans.

 

I know that doesn't fully answer your questions AB but I would say that probably United's support grew from the mid 60s through to the 80s whereas Dundee's probably peaked in the early 60s around when they won their only title.

[GYL]

I thought this game was moved for TV on Sunday but can't see it anywhere Dundee v Rangers at 3pm 🤷

[Thurlaston]

11 minutes ago, GYL said:

I thought this game was moved for TV on Sunday but can't see it anywhere Dundee v Rangers at 3pm 🤷

I think it was moved to avoid clash with rugby at murrayfield

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

We would have won comfortably at Tannadice but for Zander Clark, I think we win this comfortably, we are red hot

[Cruyff]

Utd like St Mirren will be tough. Their recruitment has been pretty good, lots of left field punts. They've got some big lads at the back as well. They are good at set pieces in both boxes and Goodwins a solid gaffer at this level, understands the league & the physical requirements needed to compete much like Robinson. 

I thibk we'll need to earn it. 

[RS86]

I'd have Milne start on the right again for this one and ask him to track Dolček out of the game. Goodwin talked about wanting more from him through the week so he'll have a point to prove and he stood out to me last time.

[Thomaso]

12 hours ago, pettigrewsstylist said:

We need to defend set peices properly. Its where they can get some joy.

Yup brutal football in the image of their manager! Long throws and balls shelled into our box from all over the park.

Essential Halks and Findlay play.

Edited November 7 by Thomaso

[Gundermann]

4 hours ago, AndrewB said:

A bit of a tangent, a tangerine tangent if you like, but what makes someone in Dundee a DFC or a DUFC fan?  That's not a Why-Would-You-Support-Either-Of-These-Muppets question but I wonder why fans go for one rather than the other?  

 

I know the old Dundee Hibs thing, but is that a factor in the last few generations?  Is it a west vs east or city centre v suburbs?  I know it's Dundee we're talking about, so there probably isn't much of a middle class, but do the better classes migrate to one club over the other?  Who do Dundee's Warrior Poets support?

 

I presume the biggest factor is family traditions or were you a really old glory hunter or an 80s glory hunter?

 

I don't know. Was up there last year visiting a pal and we went to the Clep Bar. Comfy old school type of place - Sweetheart Stout on tap - and walls laden with memorabilia from both DFC and DUFC. Bar appears to be frequented by both sets. Can't think or imagine of similar in Edinburgh.

[Thomaso]

4 hours ago, maybolejambo said:

Quite confident for this one but not so sure about Aberdeen. That crap Cypriot team have gave them a wee boost last night.

Nothing to fear from the Sheep! We should have beaten them 3 times last season and they are worse and we are much better!

[Jambo92]

24 minutes ago, RS86 said:

I'd have Milne start on the right again for this one and ask him to track Dolček out of the game. Goodwin talked about wanting more from him through the week so he'll have a point to prove and he stood out to me last time.

 

He's not been getting a game recently!

 

Think this will be toughest game of the season tbf, fear we will underestimate them.

[GBJambo]

2 minutes ago, Jambo92 said:

 

He's not been getting a game recently!

 

Think this will be toughest game of the season tbf, fear we will underestimate them.

No chance we underestimate them with Mcinnes as manager 

[Jambo92]

Just now, GBJambo said:

No chance we underestimate them with Mcinnes as manager 

 

Yeah true, meant more the fans to be honest! Hopefully the atmosphere is on point.