Diadora Van Basten Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Hope we select Lennon Miller over Kenny McLean as a replacement for Ferguson and Christie assuming Gilmour is a shoe in.
Tynecastle Valhalla Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Gilmour McTominay McGinn in central midfield Tierney on the left Doak on the right
Mikey1874 Posted October 11 Posted October 11 For all the difficulties, the boost to the team from Thursday's result could send them all the way. People saying they were buzzing afterwards.
Diego10 Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Would be good to see us try and bang the goals in in order to give us at least an outside chance of pipping Denmark on GD but seems unlikely. Settle for 3 points and on to November
Diadora Van Basten Posted October 11 Author Posted October 11 3 minutes ago, Diego10 said: Would be good to see us try and bang the goals in in order to give us at least an outside chance of pipping Denmark on GD but seems unlikely. Settle for 3 points and on to November I am the same we don’t have the same attacking threat as Denmark so am not expecting a big win. We have been beat by Belarus in the past so three points would be great and I don’t care how we get them.
Fraggle Posted October 11 Posted October 11 3 points are a must, first and foremost! How many thereafter is secondary. Dont get me wrong, be great to bang in 6 or so (as long as we don't concede 5!), but just can't see it.
Diego10 Posted October 11 Posted October 11 14 minutes ago, Morgan said: Obviously, any win would do. I think it’ll be 2-2 though. Based on what? They're terrible,we beat them comfortably in the last fixture and they've just been pumped off Denmark.
Morgan Posted October 11 Posted October 11 2 minutes ago, Diego10 said: Based on what? They're terrible,we beat them comfortably in the last fixture and they've just been pumped off Denmark. Based on Scotland games over the decades. Just when you think we’ll hammer somebody, or really need a good performance coupled with a win, they let you down.
Masonic Posted October 11 Posted October 11 i dont watch scotland games its hard enough to sit through 90 mins of hearts (i get bored) never mind watching that dross. i do like betting against scotland though but like the clown i am i thought i bet greece to win 3-1 and 3-2 the other day by mistake i had bet scotland 3-1 and 3-2 so glad they won last time around.
Ricardo Quaresma Posted October 11 Posted October 11 33 minutes ago, Diego10 said: Would be good to see us try and bang the goals in in order to give us at least an outside chance of pipping Denmark on GD but seems unlikely. Settle for 3 points and on to November 8, maybe 7 0 would do it and if we play 2 Midfielders from the Italian League winner's team and other very attacking Players we might do it, maybe stick Hirst in Surely this is going to be played in a way we know we're going to win and it's just a case of how many?
JJ1984 Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Easy 4-0 people on here moaning we weren't attacking enough, nap.
Horatio Caine Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Clarke's an astute guy. He'll ensure we don't lose.
zeke1874 Posted October 11 Posted October 11 Gilmour should defo start if fit. Class player who can pick a pass. Reckon we win this 2 or 3 nil. Not a fan of Clarke but he's in a strong position to qualify here. Which is all we want.
spacerjoe Posted October 11 Posted October 11 40 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: 8, maybe 7 0 would do it and if we play 2 Midfielders from the Italian League winner's team and other very attacking Players we might do it, maybe stick Hirst in Surely this is going to be played in a way we know we're going to win and it's just a case of how many? More like 10-0 unfortunately. We're already 4 behind them and they have yet to play Belarus at home, having just beaten them 6-0 away from home.
spacerjoe Posted October 11 Posted October 11 56 minutes ago, Morgan said: Based on Scotland games over the decades. Just when you think we’ll hammer somebody, or really need a good performance coupled with a win, they let you down. Don't see this being a Georgia or Faroes scenario. Belarus look horrendous. More thinking we just won't beat them by that much.
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted October 11 Posted October 11 1 hour ago, Masonic said: i dont watch scotland games its hard enough to sit through 90 mins of hearts (i get bored) never mind watching that dross. i do like betting against scotland though but like the clown i am i thought i bet greece to win 3-1 and 3-2 the other day by mistake i had bet scotland 3-1 and 3-2 so glad they won last time around. Every word except for the clown bit is fake news.
Morgan Posted October 11 Posted October 11 12 minutes ago, HeartsandonlyHearts said: Every word except for the clown bit is fake news.
Saint Jambo Posted October 11 Posted October 11 2 hours ago, Diego10 said: Would be good to see us try and bang the goals in in order to give us at least an outside chance of pipping Denmark on GD but seems unlikely. Settle for 3 points and on to November We could just as easily end up level on points with Greece, so should still be looking to up our goal difference tomorrow even if we don't hit Denmark levels.
Mirror Posted October 11 Posted October 11 No reason we shouldn't win but we've got to go into this with right mindset. I think the line up will be similar to Thursday with Ralston, Gilmour and likely McLean coming into the team and we'll line up in a 4-2-3-1.
SpruceBringsteen Posted October 11 Posted October 11 We'll win 1-0. It'll be like Robertson that scores it in the 71st minute. Clarkeball
Ricardo Quaresma Posted October 11 Posted October 11 2 hours ago, spacerjoe said: More like 10-0 unfortunately. We're already 4 behind them and they have yet to play Belarus at home, having just beaten them 6-0 away from home. They may only beat belarus 2-0 and we may beat them 2-0; how many apples now?
Craiglockhart No.9 Posted October 11 Posted October 11 What's the context, if we win do we go to world cup?
BRY Posted October 11 Posted October 11 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Craiglockhart No.9 said: What's the context, if we win do we go to world cup? Not yet. We have to win the group to be assured of qualifying. Second place goes into playoffs. Edit: and this isn't even the last game yet. We still have Denmark at home and Greece away after this... Edited October 11 by BRY
kevmacd Posted October 11 Posted October 11 But if we win tomorrow and Denmark beat Greece, we’re assured of at least a playoff spot.
spacerjoe Posted October 12 Posted October 12 5 hours ago, Ricardo Quaresma said: They may only beat belarus 2-0 and we may beat them 2-0; how many apples now? Yeah they might, but that was my point: it's unlikely they'll only manage to beat them by 2.
Baxfee Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Are we nearly at the point where Scotland are close to hibsing it?
Ricardo Quaresma Posted October 12 Posted October 12 2 hours ago, spacerjoe said: Yeah they might, but that was my point: it's unlikely they'll only manage to beat them by 2. It's unlikely clarke will 5h1t himself to do anything to try to win by a bucketload but we should try There's still ours and the dane's match against greece too; loads of variables One constant is a 5h1tbag that puts a 5h1t player up front on his own that is near infinitely unlikely to score 7 or 8 would be needed to open the door
The Treasurer Posted October 12 Posted October 12 (edited) Calling up Barron and Mulligan is an inspired move from Pep Clarke Edited October 12 by The Treasurer
1971fozzy Posted October 12 Posted October 12 I don’t really watch Scotland games under Clarke as he’s a dinosaur who’s stubborn, doesn’t pick form players and his style sends me to sleep. however I’ll give this a shot tonight and see (it’s also getting me out of a function as an excuse)
section s heart Posted October 12 Posted October 12 IF results go our way today, presumably if we win our home game v Denmark we win the group (head to head) and qualify, regardless of how things go in Athens? Let's get the 3 points today first.
JimmyCant Posted October 12 Posted October 12 13 hours ago, Diadora Van Basten said: I am the same we don’t have the same attacking threat as Denmark so am not expecting a big win. We have been beat by Belarus in the past so three points would be great and I don’t care how we get them. Yeh I don’t think we have the mindset or the players to go on a goal rampage. Weve played them 6 times and the biggest win was 4-1 nearly 30 years ago. There’s a defeat and a draw in the record since then Were probably going to have to take our chances in the play off, unless of course something unexpected happens in the other remaining games
S Form Posted October 12 Posted October 12 14 minutes ago, section s heart said: IF results go our way today, presumably if we win our home game v Denmark we win the group (head to head) and qualify, regardless of how things go in Athens? Let's get the 3 points today first. Presuming both us and Denmark win today we go into the last games on the same points. If it’s head to head and we beat the Danes in the final game, you’re right - our result in Athens is immaterial. However, if it’s goal difference, we’ll need at least a point against the Greeks, or to beat Belarus by about 20 tonight!
stirlo Posted October 12 Posted October 12 7 minutes ago, S Form said: Presuming both us and Denmark win today we go into the last games on the same points. If it’s head to head and we beat the Danes in the final game, you’re right - our result in Athens is immaterial. However, if it’s goal difference, we’ll need at least a point against the Greeks, or to beat Belarus by about 20 tonight! I believe it's goal difference rather than head to head. I don't understand why they can't just decide once and for all whether it should come down to one or the other. If Denmark and Greece draw tonight our goal difference versus that of Greece could come into the equation if we were to win tonight but lose the last two games. Hopefully it won't come down to that though.
JimmyCant Posted October 12 Posted October 12 3 minutes ago, stirlo said: I believe it's goal difference rather than head to head. I don't understand why they can't just decide once and for all whether it should come down to one or the other. If Denmark and Greece draw tonight our goal difference versus that of Greece could come into the equation if we were to win tonight but lose the last two games. Hopefully it won't come down to that though. It’s definitely GD that decides ties. Your scenario of results is perfectly possible of course and wouldn’t be a complete surprise. We’re 5 goals ahead of Greece at the moment and of course they have Belarus away in the last game. We could do with that being 3 or 4 more just in case
Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted October 12 Posted October 12 5 minutes ago, S Form said: Presuming both us and Denmark win today we go into the last games on the same points. If it’s head to head and we beat the Danes in the final game, you’re right - our result in Athens is immaterial. However, if it’s goal difference, we’ll need at least a point against the Greeks, or to beat Belarus by about 20 tonight! It’s goal difference. Unless we run up 9 or 10 tonight against Belarus, that effectively gives Denmark a big advantage. Assuming everyone beats Belarus in their final game against them (Scotland, Denmark and Greece all have one match left against them) then the outcomes from tonight are: Denmark win, and it’s between them and Scotland for the top 2 places. First qualifies for WC, second sends to a play-off group. To get first, we would need to beat Denmark at home plus take a point away in Athens. Greece win, and it’s a three way race. Scotland would need to beat Denmark and take a point in Athens to ensure first. Denmark and Greece draw. This would need Scotland to either beat Denmark and guarantee at least second place, and a draw against Greece to win the group. Possible that two draws could also get us into second place too. So I think we want Denmark to win 1-0 tonight, and for Greece to go radge and injure all the best Danish players and then completely loose interest in the competition.
gjcc Posted October 12 Posted October 12 1 hour ago, The Treasurer said: Calling up Barron and Mulligan is an inspired move from Pep Clarke Whoops. Pap autocorrected to Pep.
jamboozy Posted October 12 Posted October 12 It will be hard for Scotland to break down a low block Belarus who will descend into hibs like tactics.
Franksluckypants Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Denmark narrow victory or a draw in that match, and Clarke growing a pair and going for it in our match!
VimsantePoet Posted October 12 Posted October 12 I hope Scotland win. It might be difficult. I hope McTominay scores for Scotland.
JudyJudyJudy Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Well I’m hoping for a good day and a win . Taking my 13 years old nephew to it . Heading through after 1 ish , meal then head to Hampden . We will be cheering on Scotland
Morgan Posted October 12 Posted October 12 5 minutes ago, VimsantePoet said: I hope Scotland win. It might be difficult. I hope McTominay scores for Scotland. Hi Joey.
Shanks Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Fingers crossed for another victory. Not a chance in hell will I be wasting my Sunday evening watching it though Absolute horrible football to watch. Even if/when we get to the world cup it will be hard watching us set up for 0-0 draws the entire group stage.
Lambert Simnel Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Belarus are not a good team - certainly been on a downward trend for the last 15 years or so. There's little to fear here, so we should win comfortably. Despite that, we are not a prolific goal-scoring team (we had, what, only six shots on target against Liechtenstein?) so I can't see us doing better than 3-0. I'd hope Clarke will set us up with a bit more attacking intent this time. Gannon-Doak on the right. Gilmour in the midfield. Play two up front.
studo Posted October 12 Posted October 12 Needs to start Gilmour, in the away Belarus game he was screaming at the team to drive forward instead of passing it around the back. Fancy a 3 or 4-0, with Denmark beating Greece to guarantee us playoff.
AndrewB Posted October 12 Posted October 12 The Belarus keeper in the "away" game looked a bit rubbish. Same guy tonight?
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