Islam Chesnokov - it’s official

[vegas-voss]

12 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

I mean I would argue that the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Ajax and Man City ect all have their own in house analytics which would blow Jamestown out of the water. So best in the buisness is maybe pushing it 🤣

So why didn't they find MacAllister , Caciedo etc etc instead of paying £100m afterwards to Brighton.

[RustyRightPeg]

12 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

I mean I would argue that the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Ajax and Man City ect all have their own in house analytics which would blow Jamestown out of the water. So best in the buisness is maybe pushing it 🤣

Liverpool literally tried to buy it. Chelsea have stolen almost every member of Brighton’s back room staff trying to replicate it. 
 

Ajax don’t buy players, they produce them. As do Barca. 
 

Madrid cherry pick world class talent as and when they want / need it. 
 

I don’t think you’re being generous enough to Bloom here mate. 

Edited October 10, 2025 by RustyRightPeg

[Jim Panzee]

6 minutes ago, vegas-voss said:

So why didn't they find MacAllister , Caciedo etc etc instead of paying £100m afterwards to Brighton.

I'd imagine it's maximising the probability of signing bankers. (I said Bankers....stop sniggering at the back). And to fill an immediate need (Isak / Eketike)

 

They can wait 18 months for MacAllister / Isak et al to mature and prove themselves in the premier league - then spend money available to buy proven talent once they've shown they can do it. Less risk.

 

They still have projects in youth teams to also play the waiting game. 

[boag1874]

9 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Liverpool literally tried to buy it. Chelsea have stolen almost every member of Brighton’s back room staff trying to replicate it. 
 

Ajax don’t buy players, they produce them. As do Barca. 
 

Madrid cherry pick world class talent as and when they want / need it. 
 

I don’t think you’re being generous enough to Bloom here mate. 

Exactly. JTA's use of analytics & data is sought after for a reason. It is world leading & while the big clubs obviously have phenomenal resources they don't get the same value for money that the JTA clubs do - they don't really need to since they can just buy the best players but if they COULD replicate it like for like then they would.

[E3OBE]

12 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

I mean I would argue that the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Ajax and Man City ect all have their own in house analytics which would blow Jamestown out of the water. So best in the buisness is maybe pushing it 🤣

Chelsea took both of Brighton’s sporting directors off them. The bit they forgot was JamesTown. The most successful signings at Chelsea ironically have come from Brighton (Caicedo, Cucurella & Joao Pedro - at huge inflated fees). Aside from Cole Palmer who was a gem, it’s been pretty appalling recruitment from the money spent.

 

Speaking as a Chelsea fan here.

[AllyjamboDerbyshire]

13 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

I mean I would argue that the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Ajax and Man City ect all have their own in house analytics which would blow Jamestown out of the water. So best in the buisness is maybe pushing it 🤣

Pretty much spot on, except that at these clubs they don't call them 'in house analytics', they call them 'in house money to burn', which, in some cases, could even blow the Bank of England out of the water!

[Rudy T]

Noticed how quiet it’s gone on JTA since the players have started to prove themselves. Fans of other teams and media not a peep. Everyone one of them was desperate to see it fail.

[NextGenerationJambo]

14 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

I mean I would argue that the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Ajax and Man City ect all have their own in house analytics which would blow Jamestown out of the water. So best in the buisness is maybe pushing it 🤣

 

All of the teams you have mentioned do not pick up players from the J-League, Eastern European and Scandanvian second divisions, and the English lower leagues and turn them into superstars. They simply don't have the time to develop them the way that Brighton, USG, Hearts, Como etc do. It's a vital part of the model, giving these players a platform to grow and reach their potential.

 

The Times dubbed JTA "the most cutting-edge data company in football" and they are described on their own website as "the world leader when it comes to football player and head coach analysis". Now, I know a million Italian pizza restaurants will claim to be the world's best pizza, but JTA has a fair claim to that descriptor, I would say.

 

There is a reason Tony Bloom is so confident in our chances, he knows how much of an advantage this can give us.

Edited October 10, 2025 by NextGenerationJambo

[NextGenerationJambo]

6 minutes ago, Rudy T said:

Noticed how quiet it’s gone on JTA since the players have started to prove themselves. Fans of other teams and media not a peep. Everyone one of them was desperate to see it fail.

 

They have seen nothing yet, just wait till we start reinvesting the profit.

[JimmyCant]

23 minutes ago, AllyjamboDerbyshire said:

Pretty much spot on, except that at these clubs they don't call them 'in house analytics', they call them 'in house money to burn', which, in some cases, could even blow the Bank of England out of the water!

The big elite clubs wouldn’t benefit from JTA. They sign established elite players for millions and they’re not fazed if they don’t turn a profit or even if one or two are complete flops with zero return

[Sub4TiddlerMurray]

Any updates on Chessers?

[sam?]

I mean I would argue that the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Ajax and Man City ect all have their own in house analytics which would blow Jamestown out of the water. So best in the buisness is maybe pushing it 🤣

 

This is nonsense JTA are renowned for world leading, Liverpool tried to buy it, even Ian Graham the Liverpool analyst say this

[AllyjamboDerbyshire]

3 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

The big elite clubs wouldn’t benefit from JTA. They sign established elite players for millions and they’re not fazed if they don’t turn a profit or even if one or two are complete flops with zero return

Yup, I get that, my post was intended to be sarcastic but maybe missed the spot

[JimmyCant]

1 minute ago, AllyjamboDerbyshire said:

Yup, I get that, my post was intended to be sarcastic but maybe missed the spot

Sarcastic it might have been, but it’s actually the truth. Spending £70m to £100m a pop, you don’t need analytics for

[RustyRightPeg]

9 minutes ago, Sub4TiddlerMurray said:

Any updates on Chessers?

2 games left for Tobol I think. 

[JimmyCant]

7 minutes ago, sam? said:

I mean I would argue that the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Ajax and Man City ect all have their own in house analytics which would blow Jamestown out of the water. So best in the buisness is maybe pushing it 🤣

 

This is nonsense JTA are renowned for world leading, Liverpool tried to buy it, even Ian Graham the Liverpool analyst say this

Didn’t JTA tell them they wouldn’t be a good fit because they’re already signing the cream

[Sub4TiddlerMurray]

1 minute ago, RustyRightPeg said:

2 games left for Tobol I think. 

Cheers 👍

[JimmyCant]

8 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

2 games left for Tobol I think. 

5 points behind. 2 match days left for all the teams. Safe in Europe qualifying spot. Very unlikely to win the league from there

 

Chesnokov should be playing today for Kazak at 3pm, then again on Monday and once more in mid November

Edited October 10, 2025 by JimmyCant

[AllyjamboDerbyshire]

1 minute ago, JimmyCant said:

Sarcastic it might have been, but it’s actually the truth. Spending £70m to £100m a pop, you don’t need analytics for

But it seems not every poster gets that, quite simple to understand, point. It's particularly baffling, now that we've seen the quality of our first serious intake of new talent, that some people should still find cause to belittle JTA and the positive effect it will almost certainly have on our future.

[Russ1977]

34 minutes ago, Rudy T said:

Noticed how quiet it’s gone on JTA since the players have started to prove themselves. Fans of other teams and media not a peep. Everyone one of them was desperate to see it fail.

They are sitting quietly waiting for us to lose a game or 2 before they pipe up. 

[DalryJambo]

14 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

I mean I would argue that the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Ajax and Man City ect all have their own in house analytics which would blow Jamestown out of the water. So best in the buisness is maybe pushing it 🤣

 

There's nothing at all to suggest that. They probably do have access to something, but these clubs will essentially look at international and champions League games/teams and find the top performers. They won't be scrapping around the 5th tier leagues around the world looking for 'value'. They'll let everyone else do that then hand pick the best performing players in the position they need to fill.

[kingantti1874]

14 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

I mean I would argue that the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Ajax and Man City ect all have their own in house analytics which would blow Jamestown out of the water. So best in the buisness is maybe pushing it 🤣

you’d argue wrong tbh.  But the model is different, those clubs with bigger budgets aren’t scouring the lower leagues for hidden gems very often.  The players they sign aren’t at all hidden. 

[JimmyCant]

33 minutes ago, Russ1977 said:

They are sitting quietly waiting for us to lose a game or 2 before they pipe up. 

It’ll also be doubted until we turn over a Braga or an Ageu for £millions

[Vladtheenhaler]

Saying that you use similar analytics is like saying gta 1 and gta 6 is similar it is. But also very different 😂 

[Dido of Consequence]

Chesnokov starting for Kazakhstan vs lichtenstein. Loan striker according to Fotmob, but they quite often make a mess of line ups.

 

Also, that other lad we are meant to be interested in, Kenzhebek, starts 

 

 

[westbow]

1 hour ago, sam? said:

I mean I would argue that the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Ajax and Man City ect all have their own in house analytics which would blow Jamestown out of the water. So best in the buisness is maybe pushing it 🤣

 

This is nonsense JTA are renowned for world leading, Liverpool tried to buy it, even Ian Graham the Liverpool analyst say this

He said in his book that they (Liverpool) now use their analytics to value a player and buy him for less than that. Got burned in the Dalglish and Rodger’s years with Andy Carrol and the likes.  Makes you wonder how much they actually value Isak.

[Jim Panzee]

all I can say is......poor @AlimOzturk.....

[upgotheheads]

16 hours ago, AlimOzturk said:

I mean I would argue that the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid, Liverpool, Bayern, Dortmund, Ajax and Man City ect all have their own in house analytics which would blow Jamestown out of the water. So best in the buisness is maybe pushing it 🤣

 

These clubs are not in the business of finding and developing talent, they leave that to the lesser leagues and clubs, like us.

[vegas-voss]

3 hours ago, Jim Panzee said:

I'd imagine it's maximising the probability of signing bankers. (I said Bankers....stop sniggering at the back). And to fill an immediate need (Isak / Eketike)

 

They can wait 18 months for MacAllister / Isak et al to mature and prove themselves in the premier league - then spend money available to buy proven talent once they've shown they can do it. Less risk.

 

They still have projects in youth teams to also play the waiting game. 

So aye nothing like JTA

[vegas-voss]

30 minutes ago, westbow said:

He said in his book that they (Liverpool) now use their analytics to value a player and buy him for less than that. Got burned in the Dalglish and Rodger’s years with Andy Carrol and the likes.  Makes you wonder how much they actually value Isak.

They have just spent £456m in one window 😂

[AlimOzturk]

Well I have been overwhelmingly telt 🤣

Edited October 10, 2025 by AlimOzturk

[jamboinglasgow]

All I ask when Chesnokov is unveiled, that we dont do any Borat stuff.

[indianajones]

3 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said:

All I ask when Chesnokov is unveiled, that we dont do any Borat stuff.

 

Very nice. 

[Hømme]

http://www.fawanews.sc/Kazakhstan vs Liechtenstein.html

 

Islam and Kazakhstan kick off in less than ten minutes.

[jamboinglasgow]

3 minutes ago, indianajones said:

 

Very nice. 

 

Funnily enough was checking that kazakhs still dont like Borat and find it insulting, and there has been a more nuanced view on it. Some Kazakhs still think it is bad, others see it as they were just a name chosen with nothing else in common with the film and its more insulting America.

 

But they did a tourism campaign 5 years ago with the slogan "Kazakhstan. Very Nice."

[Watt-Zeefuik]

19 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said:

All I ask when Chesnokov is unveiled, that we dont do any Borat stuff.

 

Yeah. I get that Kazakhstan was just "some rando country" to Cohen but I still found the whole thing cringe AF.

[Jim Panzee]

1 hour ago, vegas-voss said:

So aye nothing like JTA

yeah - very very different. They will use data on players - but for their marquee signings nothing like what we do.

 

would think even for their project players, the data may focus on "will they become part of the first team" first and foremost - with sell on value not even being a factor? 

[Rick Sanchez]

Kenzhebek scores.

[Dido of Consequence]

Kazakhstan take the lead. Kenzhebek with the goal. Wonder if we are genuinely interested in him

[Born Again Nade]

Can understand Kazakhs being offended by the Borat thing. But in many ways it puts their country on the map.

 

In recent years a few of our own oil guys have spent plenty time there ofc.

 

I’d still find it LOL if he was to do something in a big game or derby and Hearts did a “very nice” windup post with his blessing. Doubt they’d be so controversial in today’s butthurt fakery but I wouldn’t mind. 

Edited October 10, 2025 by Born Again Nade

[WDJ87]

2 minutes ago, Dido of Consequence said:

Kazakhstan take the lead. Kenzhebek with the goal. Wonder if we are genuinely interested in him

I hope we are 

[Hashimoto]

Kenzhebek assists for the 2nd. Looks a player!

[Gav M]

I was truly offended by Fat ******* in the Austin Powers films.........🙃

[El Prez]

Chesnokov playing as the 9(false?) & hasn't done anything against Lichtenstein yet?! 

 

Get Kenzhebek on the blower. We'll swap.

 

[boag1874]

59 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Well I have been overwhelmingly telt 🤣

 

[Bill Bones]

1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said:

Well I have been overwhelmingly telt 🤣

🤣 felt bad that was a bit of a pile on 

[Born Again Nade]

1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said:

Well I have been overwhelmingly telt 🤣

I honestly didn’t read all the other replies hahah 

 

sorry for my part in such things 

 

[boag1874]

13 minutes ago, Born Again Nade said:

Can understand Kazakhs being offended by the Borat thing. But in many ways it puts their country on the map.

 

In recent years a few of our own oil guys have spent plenty time there ofc.

 

I’d still find it LOL if he was to do something in a big game or derby and Hearts did a “very nice” windup post with his blessing. Doubt they’d be so controversial in today’s butthurt fakery but I wouldn’t mind. 

He is my neighbour, Hibernian FC. He is pain in my assholes. I get a Demitri Mitchell, he must get a Demi Mitchell, I get a Faycal Rhearas, he must get a Faycal Rhearas, I get 150 derby wins...

 

...he cannot afford.

Great success.

[westbow]

1 hour ago, vegas-voss said:

They have just spent £456m in one window 😂

Ah but they could have paid £457m 😀

[Born Again Nade]

15 minutes ago, boag1874 said:

He is my neighbour, Hibernian FC. He is pain in my assholes. I get a Demitri Mitchell, he must get a Demi Mitchell, I get a Faycal Rhearas, he must get a Faycal Rhearas, I get 150 derby wins...

 

...he cannot afford.

Great success.