Bongo 1874 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 2 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Gordon needs the game time more than Clark. It makes a lot of sense if he’s in the Scotland squad. He does but 1 game ? Isn't going to make much difference. Currently we have a very solid defence and goalkeeper.
RustyRightPeg Posted November 3 Posted November 3 Just now, Bongo 1874 said: He does but 1 game ? Isn't going to make much difference. Currently we have a very solid defence and goalkeeper. Surely a man of your intelligence and knowledge of the game would understand that getting our sub goalie who has played 0 minutes this season and is in line to be #1 for Scotland in vital upcoming World Cup qualifiers would benefit from playing 90 minutes rather than 0 minutes? Also not sure what our defence and goalkeeper has to do with Gordon who sits on the bench.
Dick Dastardly Posted November 3 Posted November 3 1 hour ago, sac said: As we'll need the required number (8 iirc) of home grown or trained players if we are to compete in Europe next season 🤞, I assume that the analytics will be identifying some guid Scots lads to supplement those who remain with us at the end of this season. Do we actually need that number or does it mean we just have to go into Europe ( if we get there) with a smaller squad?
gwd1957 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 1 hour ago, Victorian said: Loan out Gordon? Don't think so ,we dumped Clark for a reason ,imagine if Alexander got injured and that sand bag got back in the team ,Gordon won't be going anywhere .
gwd1957 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 32 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Gordon needs the game time more than Clark. It makes a lot of sense if he’s in the Scotland squad. Who gives one for Scotland ? ...It's only Hearts that matter .
Bongo 1874 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 (edited) 31 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Surely a man of your intelligence and knowledge of the game would understand that getting our sub goalie who has played 0 minutes this season and is in line to be #1 for Scotland in vital upcoming World Cup qualifiers would benefit from playing 90 minutes rather than 0 minutes? Also not sure what our defence and goalkeeper has to do with Gordon who sits on the bench. We will likely have behind closed doors friendlies for players that need minutes 👍. Edited November 3 by Bongo 1874
OTT Posted November 3 Posted November 3 Will be interesting to see how McInnes tackles the RB issue. McEntee is great to have on the pitch. Wins headers, and is a handful. He also allows us to load the box with big guys at corners. But he's not a RB, and lacks some of the awareness that a proper RB would possess. I would like a Mikey Smith/Robbie Neilson no frills RB. Someone who can give Chesnokov or whoever he ahead license to do what they want. The good thing is, I think Jamestown will be able to come up with a RB that is actually well rounded, and offers us support in attack, as well as solid defensively. Appreciate we have Borch, but I get the feeling McInnes wants someone else.
GinRummy Posted November 3 Posted November 3 12 minutes ago, gwd1957 said: Who gives one for Scotland ? ...It's only Hearts that matter . Craig Gordon for one.
RustyRightPeg Posted November 3 Posted November 3 13 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: We will likely have behind closed doors friendlies for players that need minutes 👍. I’ll ask again why does Gordon sitting on the bench matter about our defence and #1? Are you against Gordon getting meaningful competitive game time for one or two games?
Cambo_Jambo Posted November 3 Posted November 3 40 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Do we actually need that number or does it mean we just have to go into Europe ( if we get there) with a smaller squad? You can opt to leave the positions in your squad empty from what I understand. That does seem a bit of a waste though so I'd imagine we'd see some of the young guys in the club at least added to the registered players to make up our numbers. Given we will very likely be in some sort of European competition next year, it would be great to see Wilson, Tait and others get positions, even if their time on the pitch is very minimal
Bongo 1874 Posted November 3 Posted November 3 5 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: I’ll ask again why does Gordon sitting on the bench matter about our defence and #1? Are you against Gordon getting meaningful competitive game time for one or two games? No just he will understand why he can't get game time just now,understanding our current goalkeeper is in good form 👍.
RustyRightPeg Posted November 3 Posted November 3 14 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: No just he will understand why he can't get game time just now,understanding our current goalkeeper is in good form 👍. I still don’t understand why that means he won’t want to go and get 90 minutes before 2 of the potential biggest games of his life? You make 0 sense.
Watt-Zeefuik Posted November 3 Posted November 3 4 hours ago, Pingu said: I disagree with the view that they don't check the re-sale value box. If we sign them both up on 3 or 4 year deals, I can easily see them moving on for £1m-£2m each in summer 2027. Possibly more for Beni. I was mildly surprised Beni didn't move in the summer and I think it's still a possibility for the January window. I think his injuries in the past have hampered him but he's really put himself in the shop window. Devlin a little less so as he's a more niche talent but it could still happen given how well he's been playing.
Dick Dastardly Posted November 3 Posted November 3 47 minutes ago, Cambo_Jambo said: You can opt to leave the positions in your squad empty from what I understand. That does seem a bit of a waste though so I'd imagine we'd see some of the young guys in the club at least added to the registered players to make up our numbers. Given we will very likely be in some sort of European competition next year, it would be great to see Wilson, Tait and others get positions, even if their time on the pitch is very minimal Yeah, i thought that was the case. Players under a certain age who qualify for Scotland can play regardless of the limit as well, I'm sure.
RustyRightPeg Posted November 3 Posted November 3 52 minutes ago, Cambo_Jambo said: You can opt to leave the positions in your squad empty from what I understand. That does seem a bit of a waste though so I'd imagine we'd see some of the young guys in the club at least added to the registered players to make up our numbers. Given we will very likely be in some sort of European competition next year, it would be great to see Wilson, Tait and others get positions, even if their time on the pitch is very minimal It isn’t an opt thing. If you don’t have a certain number of them, it’s mandatory to leave them spare.
DarthVodka Posted November 3 Posted November 3 23 hours ago, cosanostra said: I think we'll keep McCart and Kabangu. They're probably not on huge money and they're excellent back-up. Kartum will almost definitely be gone. I think McInnes likes Spittal though. He might have a small role to play in the future. Genuinely no idea what we'll do with Wilson. We clearly rate him but he's not at a level to displace any of the guys above him in the pecking order. There's a high chance that we'll get decent offers for Kyzi and Braga so there's every chance they'll move on. I also agree that one or both of Beni and Devlin will go in the summer. I think Beni. Kartum is clearly not fancied by mcinnes, has everything but doesn’t fit the physical side he likes. definitely interest in Kyzi and it will be a fight to keep him
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted November 5 Posted November 5 Quietest thread ever, contentment. I wonder who the next group in are, once we have sold a couple for profit. January is a quiet window normally, still feel it will carry some excitement. Will be inclined to sell if still in contention? Questions, questions.
Pasquale Posted November 5 Posted November 5 Might be nothing but I read a post from a Brighton fan suggesting that one of their midfielders might be joining Hearts on loan. Tom (Tommy) Watson who they signed from Sunderland for £10m in the Summer.
Dick Dastardly Posted November 5 Posted November 5 4 minutes ago, Pasquale said: Might be nothing but I read a post from a Brighton fan suggesting that one of their midfielders might be joining Hearts on loan. Tom (Tommy) Watson who they signed from Sunderland for £10m in the Summer. A 19yr old winger. Pacy and direct, according to Wikipedia
Drylaw Hearts Posted November 5 Posted November 5 4 minutes ago, Pasquale said: Might be nothing but I read a post from a Brighton fan suggesting that one of their midfielders might be joining Hearts on loan. Tom (Tommy) Watson who they signed from Sunderland for £10m in the Summer. He plays on the left…..and its a position we are low on quality cover imo.
johnking123 Posted November 5 Posted November 5 1 hour ago, Pasquale said: Might be nothing but I read a post from a Brighton fan suggesting that one of their midfielders might be joining Hearts on loan. Tom (Tommy) Watson who they signed from Sunderland for £10m in the Summer. 1 hour ago, Drylaw Hearts said: He plays on the left…..and its a position we are low on quality cover imo. Or could be a quality option, if we sell Kyziridis.
soonbe110 Posted November 5 Posted November 5 4 minutes ago, johnking123 said: Or could be a quality option, if we sell Kyziridis. More likely
Pasquale Posted November 5 Posted November 5 8 minutes ago, johnking123 said: Or could be a quality option, if we sell Kyziridis. Don't think we will be selling anybody that we value this Winter, unless it is a really silly offer.
johnking123 Posted November 5 Posted November 5 Just now, Pasquale said: Don't think we will be selling anybody that we value this Winter, unless it is a really silly offer. Possible, but players sales are the key to really getting the ball rolling. Sell a player knowing you have a quality play coming in. Especially one we got for nothing.
Pasquale Posted November 5 Posted November 5 31 minutes ago, johnking123 said: Possible, but players sales are the key to really getting the ball rolling. Sell a player knowing you have a quality play coming in. Especially one we got for nothing. You may be right. We took a risk on Kyziridis not knowing if he would adapt to the Scottish game and got lucky. You would hope that a British player with Championship experience would be less of a risk. But still, it would be a brave man to tinker with what is a winning formula.
Pingu Posted November 5 Posted November 5 2 hours ago, Pasquale said: Might be nothing but I read a post from a Brighton fan suggesting that one of their midfielders might be joining Hearts on loan. Tom (Tommy) Watson who they signed from Sunderland for £10m in the Summer. Came off the bench for a wee cameo at the weekend. He's not miles off their first team. Would be a hell of a signing, I reckon.
south morocco Posted November 5 Posted November 5 We will not be selling any of our regular players in this window. Fringe squad members who are not getting game time might move on. DMc actually said that in today’s presser.
johnking123 Posted November 5 Posted November 5 26 minutes ago, Pasquale said: You may be right. We took a risk on Kyziridis not knowing if he would adapt to the Scottish game and got lucky. You would hope that a British player with Championship experience would be less of a risk. But still, it would be a brave man to tinker with what is a winning formula. Think this is where the words "trust the process" comes in. This season has been great so far. But its only the beginning of something better hopefully.
Hømme Posted November 5 Posted November 5 (edited) Would rather keep Kyziridis than take on a young Brighton loanee. For what it's worth I doubt we would sell Kyzi in January. Hearts have far more to come from him both from a footballing and financial point of view. Edited November 5 by Hømme
Uncle Buck Posted November 5 Posted November 5 On 04/11/2025 at 16:25, Mikey1874 said: I wonder who Celtic are playing this weekend.
RustyRightPeg Posted November 5 Posted November 5 1 hour ago, johnking123 said: Or could be a quality option, if we sell Kyziridis. We aren’t selling after 6 months.
RustyRightPeg Posted November 5 Posted November 5 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Pasquale said: You may be right. We took a risk on Kyziridis not knowing if he would adapt to the Scottish game and got lucky. You would hope that a British player with Championship experience would be less of a risk. But still, it would be a brave man to tinker with what is a winning formula. You call it a risk and luck. I call it trust in the data that told us to sign him. Edited November 5 by RustyRightPeg
WheatfieldWarrior Posted November 5 Posted November 5 On 04/11/2025 at 16:25, Mikey1874 said: Another Honda Civic to add to the collection?
skacel103 Posted November 5 Posted November 5 14 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: We aren’t selling after 6 months. If we get say 5 million yes we defo are.
GBJambo Posted November 5 Posted November 5 13 minutes ago, skacel103 said: If we get say 5 million yes we defo are. No . We would get more for him in the summer. We aren’t selling him at a critical point in the season
Famous 1874 Posted November 5 Posted November 5 My prediction is 2 in not including Chesnakov. A right back and another winger. Few out the door both permanently and loan.
Jamboross Posted November 5 Posted November 5 39 minutes ago, skacel103 said: If we get say 5 million yes we defo are. I've said it before, and our board might take a different stance, but is is very rare for Brighton or USG to sell anyone close to being a first team regular nevermind a key player in January. Trossard and Dan Burn are pretty much the only examples at Brighton and Vanzeir and Undav at USG, although Undav was immediately loaned back so doesn't really count, and none of them were quick flips they'd all been at their club for at least 18 months. Also, as great as Kyzi has been, it seems a little unrealistic for someone to jump in with an offer in the multiple millions after 6 months of playing in a fairly low tier league. If he keeps up his form over a full season then there will absolutely be interest in the Summer, particularly if the club actually achieve something tangible, but I just don't see anyone willing to splash the sort of cash that'd tempt us to sell at this stage. Summer is when JTA prefer to do the bulk of their business. Januarys will be a time for fringe players being moved on and maybe a couple of incomings from leagues in their off season - MLS, Scandinavia, some Asian and South American countries - and that's about it. I really don't expect there to be much from us at all.
DarthVodka Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 hour ago, RustyRightPeg said: We aren’t selling after 6 months. Club don’t want to (Mcinnes will not be a happy man) but it might depend on the player. Some of the teams circling will be attractive
DarthVodka Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 hour ago, Famous 1874 said: My prediction is 2 in not including Chesnakov. A right back and another winger. Few out the door both permanently and loan. Aim to get 2 to 3 I’ve been told
jbee647 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 hours ago, Dick Dastardly said: A 19yr old winger. Pacy and direct, according to Wikipedia And likely another over rated loan wonder kid from the EPL, like Mikey Moore, Gurang Koul, etc etc, no thanks I don’t believe we will go down the loan path under JT
boag1874 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 I think people are overestimating the amount of interest in Kyzi & Braga after 6 months. Summer maybe but not 6 months in. They’ll keep tabs but won’t come in with anything like the finances Hearts would require to sell mid season.
johnking123 Posted November 6 Posted November 6 5 hours ago, jbee647 said: And likely another over rated loan wonder kid from the EPL, like Mikey Moore, Gurang Koul, etc etc, no thanks I don’t believe we will go down the loan path under JT Played 30 games for Sunderland in championship and Cup. Brighton use same analytics company and ask for players way above our level. Plus they do recommend loans.
TuckerCarlsonsToupee Posted November 6 Posted November 6 8 hours ago, Pasquale said: You may be right. We took a risk on Kyziridis not knowing if he would adapt to the Scottish game and got lucky. You would hope that a British player with Championship experience would be less of a risk. But still, it would be a brave man to tinker with what is a winning formula. The analytics minimise the risk. We have signed many, many, players from the Championship and below...and the number of successes over those years doesn't match the number of successes from just one summer transfer window with JTA informing the decision making process. I don't want to return to loaning young kids from English academies.
Chimp Posted November 6 Posted November 6 10 hours ago, Pasquale said: You may be right. We took a risk on Kyziridis not knowing if he would adapt to the Scottish game and got lucky. You would hope that a British player with Championship experience would be less of a risk. But still, it would be a brave man to tinker with what is a winning formula. The same way we just took a risk and got lucky with Braga? Not to mention Kabore, Magnusson and Ageu etc who look to be very good players. Is this going to be your logic for every signing outside Scottish football? Getting "lucky" with signings made through JTA
Ricardo Quaresma Posted November 6 Posted November 6 10 hours ago, Pasquale said: You may be right. We took a risk on Kyziridis not knowing if he would adapt to the Scottish game and got lucky. You would hope that a British player with Championship experience would be less of a risk. But still, it would be a brave man to tinker with what is a winning formula. You don't know if there was any risk beyond the normal injury / sickness though; FWIW it's massively obvious that JamesTown have this League pegged Their process is very mature now 9 hours ago, south morocco said: We will not be selling any of our regular players in this window. Fringe squad members who are not getting game time might move on. DMc actually said that in today’s presser. No surprises there 9 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said: We aren’t selling after 6 months. If the money was insane, we might, although due to the League battle we're in, it would heavily depend on which position and quality of replacements For OF teams, we wouldn't sell and I am sure they wouldn't pay, but that wouldn't stop dafties in the press coming out with 5h1t stories
Dick Dastardly Posted November 6 Posted November 6 7 hours ago, jbee647 said: And likely another over rated loan wonder kid from the EPL, like Mikey Moore, Gurang Koul, etc etc, no thanks I don’t believe we will go down the loan path under JT Or maybe like Ellis Simms?
Hømme Posted November 6 Posted November 6 7 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Or maybe like Ellis Simms? or Paul McCallum.
Chimp Posted November 6 Posted November 6 13 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: Or maybe like Ellis Simms? Jimmy Dunne didn't do too badly either.
JimmyCant Posted November 6 Posted November 6 On 03/11/2025 at 20:07, Dick Dastardly said: Yeah, i thought that was the case. Players under a certain age who qualify for Scotland can play regardless of the limit as well, I'm sure. Correct. You submit a B list which is essentially all the young players at the club who meet the age and ‘training’ criteria and you can dip into that list anytime you want
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