Tommy Brown Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Just now, CMc said: I think it’s time for change. Even if only from the bench. OM did well defensively, but we struggled to play out through the fullbacks yesterday. Osin struggled to overlap and Harry was shown on to his right a lot. Totally agree. Players in their proper positions. Borch and Ageu in. Tough on McEntee and Devlin. Milne for Kingsley. Karjota on RW
DalryJambo Posted October 5 Posted October 5 On 25/09/2025 at 08:23, EH11 2NL said: If this boys as good as the likes of Braga and Kyzi, we're gonna have some side come January. Arguably the 2 most experienced still to feature in Ageu and Chesni, Borch hopefully finally solves the RB issue. It's hard to see a position that would need improved on. Obviously we will improve, scary to think what level of players will replace this crop through the JTA system. The comparison I'd look at is Harry Milne. His background suggests Borchgrevink will be better than Milne and if this is the case I think we'll bo onto a winner. Without getting ahead of ourselves, if we all agree that on the whole the squad refresh is almost complete and possibly the only real question marks are around Forrest, Sittal and maybe Kartum and Nieuwenhof then the next batch of signings (which will be ranked higher in the eyes of JTA) are going to be some bunch!
mr fox Posted October 5 Posted October 5 11 minutes ago, Tommy Brown said: Totally agree. Players in their proper positions. Borch and Ageu in. Tough on McEntee and Devlin. Milne for Kingsley. Karjota on RW Devlin will not be dropped not a chance
AlimOzturk Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Will McInnes rotate the squad or is he the type of manager who prefers a settled first 11? He seems pretty set on the first 11 we have seen lately. I hope he is adaptable as for me Kerjota looks like a carbon copy of Kyzi. Imagibe having that level of threat on both sides?
Tommy Brown Posted October 5 Posted October 5 1 minute ago, mr fox said: Devlin will not be dropped not a chance You think Ageu and Devlin? I would say Ageu and Beni. Rhs Karjota or McEntee.
mr fox Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Just now, Tommy Brown said: You think Ageu and Devlin? I would say Ageu and Beni. Rhs Karjota or McEntee. I think it will be Beni Devlin and Ageu But if it comes to a choice between Devlin and Beni he will pick Devlin 100%.
DalryJambo Posted October 5 Posted October 5 1 hour ago, Tommy Brown said: Totally agree. Players in their proper positions. Borch and Ageu in. Tough on McEntee and Devlin. Milne for Kingsley. Karjota on RW 100% Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but it appears that DM knows his preferred shape, but a few players from what would be his preferred starting 11 are out injured. He's therefore trying to play that shape but without his preferred starting 11, meaning we currently have a make shift RB, LB and RM/RW. Hopefully, this means when the injured players come back they can slip seamless into the shape without causing to much confusion across the team and we're potentially better. Milne at LB Borchgrevink at RB Kerjota at RW Not sure who Ageu replaces, that's a tough one. I also have a funny feeling Magnusson could be a gem as well!
johnking123 Posted October 5 Posted October 5 4 minutes ago, DalryJambo said: 100% Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but it appears that DM knows his preferred shape, but a few players from what would be his preferred starting 11 are out injured. He's therefore trying to play that shape but without his preferred starting 11, meaning we currently have a make shift RB, LB and RM/RW. Hopefully, this means when the injured players come back they can slip seamless into the shape without causing to much confusion across the team and we're potentially better. Milne at LB Borchgrevink at RB Kerjota at RW Not sure who Ageu replaces, that's a tough one. I also have a funny feeling Magnusson could be a gem as well! 1 hour ago, Tommy Brown said: Totally agree. Players in their proper positions. Borch and Ageu in. Tough on McEntee and Devlin. Milne for Kingsley. Karjota on RW Beni is the one that will get dropped.
TheBigO Posted October 5 Posted October 5 1 hour ago, RustyRightPeg said: The changes won us the game yesterday. They deserve to play. Steinwender was more direct with his passing than McEntee, Kerjota well, was a winger playing on the wing and look what happened. But also... look what happened. What we dont know is what would have happened had we atarted that way. Its massively important to have game changers on the bench as has been proven a lot this season. Our FBs were far too slow and safe on the ball. Plus Milne is good higher up against teams who want to build from the back. Hibs really REALLY dont. But at the same time that game, in those conditions, with the way Hibs play, was just a fight and pur first xi allowed us to have our best scrappers on the pitch for 80 mins.
TheBigO Posted October 5 Posted October 5 6 minutes ago, johnking123 said: Beni is the one that will get dropped. I think Cam misses Killie cos of int duty is the only thing
Tynecastle Valhalla Posted October 5 Posted October 5 14 minutes ago, TheBigO said: I think Cam misses Killie cos of int duty is the only thing A testament to how well he has been playing recently (including last season).
We_are_the_Hearts Posted October 5 Posted October 5 17 minutes ago, TheBigO said: I think Cam misses Killie cos of int duty is the only thing He will be back on the Thursday before the game
TheBigO Posted October 5 Posted October 5 13 minutes ago, We_are_the_Hearts said: He will be back on the Thursday before the game Ah ok. Which i think means bench. Might be wrong. Beni, McEntee, Magnusson, Ageu hopefully all fully available so should be fine.
Lambert Simnel Posted October 5 Posted October 5 I'd like to see Borch and Milne at RB and LB respectively. Good to have the "Harry on the right" option, but while it was excellent against Rangers, it didn't work well for us yesterday. Midfield, I'd hope to see Ageu in, likely for Beni. Right midfield / right wing, I'm happy to be convinced. Kerjota has looked good when he's come on, but maybe he's a closer at the moment? Kabore maybe? Perhaps Magnusson would be the best option. Means quite a few changes to a winning team. McEntee has done little wrong to be dropped, so I suspect McInnes won't go as far as this. But we do have two players coming back from injury who are likely to improve the quality of the team (Ageu, Borch) and I'd want to see them come into the starting XI.
TheBigO Posted October 5 Posted October 5 3 minutes ago, Lambert Simnel said: I'd like to see Borch and Milne at RB and LB respectively. Good to have the "Harry on the right" option, but while it was excellent against Rangers, it didn't work well for us yesterday. Midfield, I'd hope to see Ageu in, likely for Beni. Right midfield / right wing, I'm happy to be convinced. Kerjota has looked good when he's come on, but maybe he's a closer at the moment? Kabore maybe? Perhaps Magnusson would be the best option. Means quite a few changes to a winning team. McEntee has done little wrong to be dropped, so I suspect McInnes won't go as far as this. But we do have two players coming back from injury who are likely to improve the quality of the team (Ageu, Borch) and I'd want to see them come into the starting XI. I almost think McEntee at RM not the worst option. Might sound clunky but with two much more attacking FBs in Milne and Borch and Ageu also running forward more, having that kind of inside right not the worst thing. Would actually be quite a JJ type setup.
Victor Meldrew Posted October 5 Posted October 5 2 hours ago, AlimOzturk said: Will McInnes rotate the squad or is he the type of manager who prefers a settled first 11? He seems pretty set on the first 11 we have seen lately. I hope he is adaptable as for me Kerjota looks like a carbon copy of Kyzi. Imagibe having that level of threat on both sides? A degree of rotation is going to be forced on him anyway: suspensions and injuries will be inevitable over the course of the season. I suspect he's a manager that will try to play with as much of a settled team as possible so long as it's getting results.
pettigrewsstylist Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Is Borch fit and available? ..lost track of this one. Last i heard he was.
Fort Vallance Posted October 5 Posted October 5 24 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said: Is Borch fit and available? ..lost track of this one. Last i heard he was. I'm not holding my breath.
Gmcjambo Posted October 5 Posted October 5 10 hours ago, DalryJambo said: 100% Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but it appears that DM knows his preferred shape, but a few players from what would be his preferred starting 11 are out injured. He's therefore trying to play that shape but without his preferred starting 11, meaning we currently have a make shift RB, LB and RM/RW. Hopefully, this means when the injured players come back they can slip seamless into the shape without causing to much confusion across the team and we're potentially better. Milne at LB Borchgrevink at RB Kerjota at RW Not sure who Ageu replaces, that's a tough one. I also have a funny feeling Magnusson could be a gem as well! I have a feeling Magnusson and Ageu could be a future midfield pair, which rather excites me. Magnusson has a bit of steel but can ping longer passes of either foot, Ageu a genuine box to box midfielder. Both I reckon can put their foot in and be ball winners but also have the tools in their locker to create much more threat from the middle of the park. Such exciting times.
hearts00 Posted October 5 Posted October 5 11 hours ago, mr fox said: Devlin will not be dropped not a chance He absolutely will not be dropped. Been sensational this season.
Gmcjambo Posted October 5 Posted October 5 12 minutes ago, hearts00 said: He absolutely will not be dropped. Been sensational this season. He’s never been better for us, but the whole idea of JA is we bring in better players than what we have. Time will tell if Magnusson has more to offer than Devlin, it seems clear that Ageu will play his way into the team petty much immediately. I suspect the reality could be a bit of both, Devlin for some types of matches and Magnussen for others. It’s going to be fascinating though, and we’re even edging closer to the Jan transfer window. Don’t think anyone can feel too safe.
johnking123 Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Magnusson Devlin Ageu would be an interesting combination. Magnusson does not shy away from moving forward. Beni has been good, but think we are after more from our midfield. He really is lost going forward and just won't SHOOT!
Carter Posted October 5 Posted October 5 33 minutes ago, Gmcjambo said: He’s never been better for us, but the whole idea of JA is we bring in better players than what we have. Time will tell if Magnusson has more to offer than Devlin, it seems clear that Ageu will play his way into the team petty much immediately. I suspect the reality could be a bit of both, Devlin for some types of matches and Magnussen for others. It’s going to be fascinating though, and we’re even edging closer to the Jan transfer window. Don’t think anyone can feel too safe. I think last night did illustrate, if it was needed, is when we come up against one of the better sides in the league, you need a bit more craft and guile that what we had in there last night. That's not to dismiss the attributes that allow you to regain possession, but repeated safe possession when you need a bit of quality and incision will only take you so far.
hearts00 Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Pretty interesting that Del tried Magnusson at RB in the bounce game. No idea why Borch not getting mins in that bounce game. I think Del likes his FBs in a 4-4-2 to be robust, large and physical. Does Borch fit the bill? I am not so sure.
OTT Posted October 5 Posted October 5 1 minute ago, hearts00 said: Pretty interesting that Del tried Magnusson at RB in the bounce game. No idea why Borch not getting mins in that bounce game. I think Del likes his FBs in a 4-4-2 to be robust, large and physical. Does Borch fit the bill? I am not so sure. Certainly at Killie that was the case, looking at Aberdeen he had Shay Logan who was only 5"8 - although I think Shaunessy played RB too, Considine played LB (both 6ft) , then there was also Graeme Shinnie who is only 5"9, latterly McCrorie who is 6"3 (RB). I suspect Killie it was a pragmatic decision about maximising their defensive strength. At Aberdeen, it looks like he had more flexibility so could pick and choose. (I'm not disagreeing with your point, just wanted to look into it out of interest, and see what he was doing). Its an interesting point to pick up on
Watt-Zeefuik Posted October 5 Posted October 5 13 hours ago, mr fox said: I think it will be Beni Devlin and Ageu But if it comes to a choice between Devlin and Beni he will pick Devlin 100%. Agreed on both points. He's only dropped if he's jet lagged coming back from Oz.
hearts00 Posted October 5 Posted October 5 A midfielder 3 of Devlin, Beni and Ageu, or Magnusson in for maybe Beni or Devlin is a superb looking midfield. The challenge then of course with that 3 is how you accommodate Shanks.
hereford_hearts Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Just now, Watt-Zeefuik said: Agreed on both points. He's only dropped if he's jet lagged coming back from Oz. He's coming back from north America.
Watt-Zeefuik Posted October 5 Posted October 5 3 minutes ago, hereford_hearts said: He's coming back from north America. Ah, not so bad then. Proper full Scottish at the airport cafe to start the day always sorts me out after that flight.
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted October 5 Posted October 5 we can’t start the same players every week altho we’ve just done that for the last 3 games and that’s been aggregate 6-0 wins including away to rangers and home to hibs 8 mostly 6ft plus defenders plus 3 strikers have us top of the league with an almost perfect record del about to enter the tino asprilla phase where he needs to carefully trade off what’s there already and been very successful to what in theory is needed to make us better I don’t see him doing anything too drastic over the next 3 or 4 games regarding the starting line up
pettigrewsstylist Posted October 5 Posted October 5 1 hour ago, johnking123 said: Magnusson Devlin Ageu would be an interesting combination. Magnusson does not shy away from moving forward. Beni has been good, but think we are after more from our midfield. He really is lost going forward and just won't SHOOT! A few more teeth grinding moments yesterday.
Cruyff Posted October 5 Posted October 5 13 hours ago, Tommy Brown said: You think Ageu and Devlin? I would say Ageu and Beni. Rhs Karjota or McEntee. Devlins first name on the teamsheet.
Stendelnator Posted October 5 Posted October 5 1 hour ago, hearts00 said: Pretty interesting that Del tried Magnusson at RB in the bounce game. No idea why Borch not getting mins in that bounce game. I think Del likes his FBs in a 4-4-2 to be robust, large and physical. Does Borch fit the bill? I am not so sure. He was ill.
hearts00 Posted October 5 Posted October 5 Just now, Stendelnator said: He was ill. Aha! Shame for the lad just can’t get going. I’m just dreaming he is the real deal though and you add him into the side with Cesnekov and Ageu. Could be something really special.
jamboinglasgow Posted October 5 Posted October 5 3 hours ago, Gmcjambo said: I have a feeling Magnusson and Ageu could be a future midfield pair, which rather excites me. Magnusson has a bit of steel but can ping longer passes of either foot, Ageu a genuine box to box midfielder. Both I reckon can put their foot in and be ball winners but also have the tools in their locker to create much more threat from the middle of the park. Such exciting times. Yeah, I do get the feeling that Magnusson is a player JTA think will be great and we have moved in early for him. Ageu speaks for himself. I also think people are forgetting about McEntee in midfield because he has had to be our right back for quite a few games. Earlier in the season he looked really strong there. But the cruical thing is options we have in areas like central midfield, or up front with five strikers, all can make a difference. I feel its the strongest group of strikers we have had since I am not sure when. Its funny that its a bit frustrating that we have not seen more of Wilson as I do want him to get his chance and Kabore, who I am fascinated to see him get a proper look at as I think up to speed he could be good, but its because Shankland and Braga have been so strong up front which is great to have (with Kabangu able to come off the bench and provide pace.)
JimmyCant Posted October 5 Posted October 5 15 hours ago, Tommy Brown said: Totally agree. Players in their proper positions. Borch and Ageu in. Tough on McEntee and Devlin. Milne for Kingsley. Karjota on RW Swallov Borch Halkett Findlay Milne Mcentee Ageu Devlin Kerjota Shankland Kyzi
mitch41 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 (edited) Has Borchgrevink proved he’s good enough, is fit enough and better than what we already have had play at right back. Is it a matter of putting him in a starting lineup and seeing how he does. True we have to trust McInnes but there has to be some doubt as to when he comes in and maybe coming on as a sub might just be the best bet for him and the team. Edited October 6 by mitch41
mitch41 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 26 minutes ago, JimmyCant said: Swallov Borch Halkett Findlay Milne Mcentee Ageu Devlin Kerjota Shankland Kyzi And what about Braga ?
JamboGee92 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 Yeah I agree that we need more attacking from RB and hopefully Borch is the guy to help us do that. Milne back to LB as well please.
colinmaroon Posted October 6 Posted October 6 1 hour ago, JamboGee92 said: Yeah I agree that we need more attacking from RB and hopefully Borch is the guy to help us do that. Milne back to LB as well please. Or the Magic goal supplier to start. Super K.
JimmyCant Posted October 6 Posted October 6 4 hours ago, mitch41 said: And what about Braga ? He’ll join the excellent options we have from a very strong bench
boag1874 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 5 hours ago, JimmyCant said: Swallov Borch Halkett Findlay Milne Mcentee Ageu Devlin Kerjota Shankland Kyzi I’d take Kerjota out of that for Braga & have him & Kyzi swap wings. I don’t think we should be breaking apart that front 3 any time soon unless there’s a prolonged loss of form & Kerjota is a perfect option from the bench as we saw on Saturday.
Robbo-Jambo Posted October 6 Posted October 6 7 hours ago, Stendelnator said: He was ill. Think he was ok for the Hibs game but once again no sign of him.
DG_HMFC Posted October 6 Posted October 6 6 hours ago, JimmyCant said: Swallov Borch Halkett Findlay Milne Mcentee Ageu Devlin Kerjota Shankland Kyzi As much as he's been good for us, I think McEntee might be the one to drop to the bench because a midfield 3 of Beni, Ageu and Devlin will be colossal. Braga, Kyziridis and Shanks ahead of them Back 4 of Borchgrevink, Halkett, Findlay and Milne.
Hømme Posted October 6 Posted October 6 Cammy Devlin can be filed alongside Findlay in that he is one of DM's favourites and as such will have his place in an increasingly JTA influenced squad. That said, if you were looking for a player that does what CD does via JTA, they would likely have his name in any list anyway.
JamboGee92 Posted October 6 Posted October 6 17 minutes ago, DG_HMFC said: As much as he's been good for us, I think McEntee might be the one to drop to the bench because a midfield 3 of Beni, Ageu and Devlin will be colossal. Braga, Kyziridis and Shanks ahead of them Back 4 of Borchgrevink, Halkett, Findlay and Milne. I agree. It would have to be that midfield 3 imo.
Paul Shark Posted October 6 Posted October 6 8 hours ago, Cruyff said: Devlins first name on the teamsheet. Yep first straight after Shankland.
hereford_hearts Posted October 6 Posted October 6 (edited) DM obviously has a core of first picks, then tweaks it around the edges. Alex in goal The incredible Halk Big Stu Wee Cammy Shanks All we need is.... Kyri may also now be a first choice Borch as well when fit. So that leaves 3 spaces up for grabs. Is Benny one, he is just now? Will Milne slot into the defensive left full time when the right side of midfield /defence is sorted? All the problems that DM has to solve. Edited October 6 by hereford_hearts
Taffin Posted October 6 Posted October 6 The best we've played this season (as a collective and balance wise) imo was with Borch in the team. He'd be straight back in for me. Milne would also be at LB. This time it's working but I'm still not a fan of playing players out of position
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