lou Posted March 11 Posted March 11 This piece of shit gets sentenced shortly, not brave enough to attend court. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5y0l633nygt Quote
John Findlay Posted March 11 Posted March 11 28 minutes ago, lou said: This piece of shit gets sentenced shortly, not brave enough to attend court. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5y0l633nygt I know we can't but a crossbow arrow right between the eyes for this one. However I hope it is a proper life sentence with not allowed to apply for parole until his One Hundredth birthday. Quote
BlueRiver Posted March 11 Posted March 11 It's a disgrace they can decide to not attend court for sentencing imo. Quote
BlueRiver Posted March 11 Posted March 11 10 minutes ago, John Findlay said: I know we can't but a crossbow arrow right between the eyes for this one. However I hope it is a proper life sentence with not allowed to apply for parole until his One Hundredth birthday. Didn't he try to do it to himself? They found him before he bled out. Quote
John Findlay Posted March 11 Posted March 11 27 minutes ago, BlueRiver said: Didn't he try to do it to himself? They found him before he bled out. No idea. Let someone else do it, so it gets done properly. Quote
BlueRiver Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Just now, John Findlay said: No idea. Let someone else do it, so it gets done properly. He was in hospital for months after his arrest. Sure he tried to. Hopefully gets done in prison Quote
Gundermann Posted March 11 Posted March 11 47 minutes ago, BlueRiver said: Didn't he try to do it to himself? They found him before he bled out. He's paralysed from the neck down so hopefully a long and uncomfortable life as a vegetable eating all the manure the other inmates/ or carers can chuck on you. More justice in that IMO. Quote
BlueRiver Posted March 11 Posted March 11 4 minutes ago, Gundermann said: He's paralysed from the neck down so hopefully a long and uncomfortable life as a vegetable eating all the manure the other inmates/ or carers can chuck on you. More justice in that IMO. Didn't realise that. Thought he'd made a complete recovery. Quote
Bindy Badgy Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Whole of life sentance given. Unsurprising when you consider how violent the offence was. Quote
John Findlay Posted March 11 Posted March 11 1 hour ago, Gundermann said: He's paralysed from the neck down so hopefully a long and uncomfortable life as a vegetable eating all the manure the other inmates/ or carers can chuck on you. More justice in that IMO. Not quite correct. He is paralysed from the chest down and can use both arms and hands. Quote
Spellczech Posted March 11 Posted March 11 35 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Not quite correct. He is paralysed from the chest down and can use both arms and hands. Cann't help hoping he has a very active sex life in prison... This thing of convicts opting out of their sentencing hearing may be a money-saver but it doesn't sit right with the idea of justice being seen to be done... Quote
John Findlay Posted March 11 Posted March 11 11 minutes ago, Spellczech said: Cann't help hoping he has a very active sex life in prison... This thing of convicts opting out of their sentencing hearing may be a money-saver but it doesn't sit right with the idea of justice being seen to be done... Shouldn't be allowed to not attend. Disgraceful to let this happen. Quote
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted March 11 Posted March 11 14 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Shouldn't be allowed to not attend. Disgraceful to let this happen. problem is those videos from USA where the guilty person is there giving everyone the finger and telling the family how much they enjoyed doing xyz not to mention having to drag them in and potentially breaching their (non)-human rights 🤡 world Quote
Lone Striker Posted March 11 Posted March 11 Such a tragic and senseless event. Just my opinion - but Clifford deserves to die a long, slow, lonely, painful death in the very near future - instead of using public resources to look after his health in prison for another 50 years. This report includes John Hunt's Victim Impact statement that he read out in court despite Clifford not being there - Mr Justice Bennathan described Clifford as a "jealous man soaked in self-pity – a man who holds women in utter contempt" and said the "brutal and cowardly" attack in July last year in Bushey, Hertfordshire had been planned for 11 days. Clifford refused to attended Cambridge Crown Court for his sentencing. Earlier in court, BBC racing commentator John Hunt accused Clifford's family of knowing about the weapons used in the attack - a crossbow and 10-inch butchering knife - as he read out a powerful impact statement. Hunt told the court Clifford was “callous, cowardly and vindictive”. He said: “When I was first invited to provide a victim impact statement, I initially misunderstood its purpose, do I really need to detail the impact of having three-quarters of my family murdered? “But then I realised that this was my final opportunity to say what I wanted to say, specifically to you, Kyle, words that will also be directed to your family, who will carry guilt forwards with them for the rest of their lives. They knew about the weapons, they knew.” The court was told that, days before the murders, Clifford spoke to his brother Bradley Hunt, who is currently in prison serving a life sentence for murder. The conversation they had was recorded by the prison. According to the prosecution, Clifford "told his brother Bradley ‘I’ve ordered a crossbow’". The judge said Clifford “never told his brother he was planning to hurt someone”. 'Screams of hell': The victim impact statements After the sentencing, John Hunt and his surviving daughter, Amy, hugged loved ones after Clifford was sentenced to a whole life order. John Hunt said in his victim impact statement that he was “so proud of all my girls". Addressing his comments to Clifford directly, despite him refusing to leave his cell to face the family, Hunt said: "Louise, she enjoyed more success and fulfilment in one morning than you achieved in your entire miserable life.” Describing his wife, Carol, Hunt said: “Carol still displayed compassion right up until the moment she answered the door to you on July 9. “Do you remember her kindness, Kyle? How she urged you to get some relationship help and guidance for fear that you would never be able to sustain a lasting relationship? “You calmly accepted that advice on the doorstep and then literally seconds later, savagely stabbed her eight times and ended her life." John Hunt with his wife, Carol. (Supplied) Hunt added that he believed he would have been Clifford's fourth victim, had his daughter Hannah not managed to raise the alarm after being fatally wounded. “Hannah handed me a second chance, one that she worked so hard to achieve for me," he said. Concluding his statement, he said: "Whatever sentence you’re about to receive, whatever misery lies ahead for you in the next 60 years, remain that after your days on earth are done, on your dying day there will be no release for you Kyle. “The screams of hell, Kyle. I can hear them faintly now. “They’re going to roll the red carpet out for you.” Hunt's eldest daughter, Amy Hunt, the sister of Louise and Hannah Hunt, told the court Clifford had “selfish and sadistic aims”. She said: “That day, and every day leading up to it, Kyle, you had a choice and you chose to inflict violence on a horrific scale, all for your own selfish and sadistic aims. “All the time, truly thinking of yourself alone, I can only assume that in the days after Louise broke up with you in the kindest most respectful way… you created some kind of false narrative in your head about how we had supposedly wronged you in order to allow you to avoid confronting the pain and shame within you and the truth – that the break-up was entirely your fault." She added: "That day, Kyle, you ripped a mother away from her daughters, a wife away from her husband, sisters away from one another, daughters away from their father, much adored friends away from their friends… alongside countless other losses formed from your entirely self-absorbed actions. “For dad and I, you have callously and coldly taken not one, not two but the three most important people in our lives outside of each other. The crossbow used by Kyle Clifford to murder Louise and Hannah Hunt and which he later turned on himself. (PA) (Hertfordshire Police/PA Wire) “You have destroyed generations that always did, and were set to, enjoy wonderful, peaceful lives together. “My mother will never see any of her daughters get married. “Mum and dad will not be able to grow old and enjoy retirement together, my sisters will never be the mothers they dreamed of being or build their own homes, and I will never be an auntie to their children, nor dad a granddad to their children.” Enraged Clifford tricked his way into family home The trial heard Clifford, who refused to leave his cell at HMP Belmarsh to attend proceedings, became “enraged” when Louise ended their 18-month relationship. He later tricked her mother into letting him into the family home in Bushey, Hertfordshire. Footage from a camera at the front of the home show him telling the 61-year-old he was “just dropping off some of Louise’s stuff”. He later stabbed her to death in a “brutal knife attack”. During this, customers of Louise’s dog grooming business, which was based in a pod in the Hunt family’s garden, were using the gate at the side of the house unaware of what was happening. Further footage showed him leaving the address to collect the crossbow from his car and returning to “lay in wait” for an hour until Louise returned. A faint scream was reportedly heard when she entered the house. Clifford then used tape to bind her wrists and ankles before raping her and killing her with a crossbow. When Louise’s older sister, Hannah Hunt, 28, returned home from work he fatally shot her, too. Jurors were told Hannah messaged her partner, telling him: “call police… immediately. To mine. Now. Kyle here. Police now. He’s tying us up”. A manhunt was launched following the killings and Clifford was later found in Lavender Hill Cemetery in Enfield, north London, where he had shot himself in the chest with the same crossbow used to murder Louise and Hannah. His wounds left him paralysed from the chest down. Kyle Clifford (bottom right) was left paralysed from the chest down after shooting himself with a crossbow while police hunted him following the murders. (PA) (Hertfordshire Police/PA Wire) Prosecutor Alison Morgan KC told the court that Clifford had searched for how to purchase a crossbow in the days ahead of the attack. He also bought rope and petrol in the days leading up to the murders. Following the jury’s verdict, Mr Justice Joel Bennathan said the killer would be sentenced for his “dreadful” and “almost unspeakable” crimes on Tuesday. The judge also paid tribute to friends and family of Clifford’s victims, who he said had “conducted themselves with huge dignity and restraint". Killer searched for Andrew Tate videos hours before killings On Tuesday, the court was told the decision of Clifford to “turn to Andrew Tate” the night before he murdered three people was “no coincidence” During the trial, the court heard that the murders were fuelled by the “violent misogyny promoted” by Tate, after it emerged that Clifford searched for the controversial social media influencer’s podcast less than 24 hours before the attacks.. Prosecutor Ms Morgan suggested there was a link between Tate’s output and the murders, as well as the rape, as it showed Clifford was “trying to control Louise Hunt in the context of a final act of spite”. Kyle Clifford is seen buying cans of petrol days before he murdered three people. (PA) On Tuesday, Cambridge Crown Court was told Clifford had been seen by a friend of Louise viewing a Tate video “which showed animals who had been drugged”, which the killer found “funny”. Tate, alongside his brother Tristan Tate, are facing criminal proceedings in both Romania and the UK on charges such as human trafficking and rape – which both men “unequivocally deny” – while a criminal investigation has recently been launched into the pair in Florida. But Mr Justice Bennathan ruled jurors at Cambridge Crown Court should not be told about this as it could be “deeply prejudicial” to proceedings. He added: “Tate is almost a poster boy for misogynists and one, in addition, who is very much in the news.” Quote
redjambo Posted March 11 Posted March 11 John Hunt's victim statement in full. Worth reading. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwydwr859dgo Quote
Malinga the Swinga Posted March 11 Posted March 11 As a racing fan, I'm well aware of John Hunt. Came across as a decent guy and for him and his daughter to be able to stand in court and maintain their dignity is not something I'm sure I could do in his situation. As for the murderer, I won't give him a name, may he live in agony for rest of his miserable life. Quote
Ray Gin Posted March 11 Posted March 11 8 hours ago, lou said: This piece of shit gets sentenced shortly, not brave enough to attend court. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/c5y0l633nygt May he rot in a cell for the rest of his life in a miserable existence. Quote
Byyy The Light Posted March 11 Posted March 11 I hope every day someone in that jail boils up the kettle with the sugar and pours it over the pricks face Quote
JFK-1 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 Was UK Crossbow Killer Inspired by 'Manosphere Messiah' Andrew Tate? | Kyle Clifford Case Analysis This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Kyle Clifford? Quote
If carlsberg did rivals... Posted March 14 Posted March 14 On 11/03/2025 at 13:44, BlueRiver said: It's a disgrace they can decide to not attend court for sentencing imo. Correct, he should be dragged by the ears if need be, there should be no choice. Quote
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted March 14 Posted March 14 6 hours ago, If carlsberg did rivals... said: Correct, he should be dragged by the ears if need be, there should be no choice. some of them will probably need gagged as well otherwise you run the risk of them just shouting out how much they enjoyed killing the daughter / relaying how much the victim suffered etc im not personally against it but there are practical issues to overcome especially those on (effectively) life sentences that have pretty much nothing to lose Quote
FWJ Posted March 14 Posted March 14 3 hours ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: some of them will probably need gagged as well otherwise you run the risk of them just shouting out how much they enjoyed killing the daughter / relaying how much the victim suffered etc im not personally against it but there are practical issues to overcome especially those on (effectively) life sentences that have pretty much nothing to lose This is my take on it too. They’ve nothing to lose so they might be, to say the least, ‘disruptive’. Quote
Mikey1874 Posted March 14 Posted March 14 John Hunt back working today at Cheltenham. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/mar/14/john-hunt-returns-to-cheltenham-festival-days-after-brave-victim-statement Quote
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