Cammy Devlin

[Wee Mikey]

On 27/10/2024 at 14:56, Bazzas right boot said:

He's simply not good enough.

He's a likeable guy and can do some good in terms of harassing and tackling, but his general passing, composure and game intelligence is just not there.

He offers little quality with the ball.

He's also not improved over his time with us.

 

He's probably behind Boateng,  Beni and the Hoff so for 4th or 5th choice he can come in and do a job, but we don't want to be relying on him for  any period of time.

 

And yet he did this:-

 

 

On 27/10/2024 at 15:12, periodictabledancer said:

Offers absolutely nothing.

 

That 👆 is simply an(other) assessment which sits at the extreme end of a continuum. Stating that he offers nothing is blinkered.

 

Anyhoo, too busy right now to read 7 pages but I reckon that Critchley will be on the case as regards Devlin's shortcomings.

[Dallas Green]

5 hours ago, FERRY HEARTS said:

I am saying Devlin is more reliable as I’d imagine he has play a lot more game time over past season and is not as injury prone 

Reliable for selection. Not reliable on the park.

[Penrices left boot]

2 hours ago, Wee Mikey said:

 

And yet he did this:-

 

 

 

That 👆 is simply an(other) assessment which sits at the extreme end of a continuum. Stating that he offers nothing is blinkered.

 

Anyhoo, too busy right now to read 7 pages but I reckon that Critchley will be on the case as regards Devlin's shortcomings.

 

 

I'll be glad when Beni, Hoff and Boateng are all available. 

[TexasAndy]

The way I see it with Hoff still out and Beni not fit I was glad we had Devlin to bring in.  Not a bad squad player at all.

[HopeDiouf]

25 minutes ago, TexasAndy said:

The way I see it with Hoff still out and Beni not fit I was glad we had Devlin to bring in.  Not a bad squad player at all.

Indeed.  But the kids need someone to blame cause we didn't win at Easter Road.  An easy target.

[Chimp]

1 minute ago, HopeDiouf said:

Indeed.  But the kids need someone to blame cause we didn't win at Easter Road.  An easy target.

 

So why do you think he's an easy target then? Why is that quite a lot of people seem to single him out, and so often?

 

[Watt-Zeefuik]

7 hours ago, Dana Scully said:

The more I think about this idea of him only being suitable for certain games the more ridiculous it sounds. I genuinely can’t think of any other player, let alone a previous Hearts player, who is only suitable for a fraction of his club‘s games. 
 

It would be slightly more understandable if he was an 18yo finding his way in the game but he’s a 26yo who’s been here three years.

 

Love the wee man’s heart and passion but he shouldn’t be playing for a team like Hearts. Will have a great career at the likes of St Mirren or Kilmarnock.

 

When folks are determined to misunderstand a simple point, it's pretty well impossible to convince them otherwise.

 

Have fun beating up that straw man, bro.

[HopeDiouf]

Just now, Chimp said:

 

So why do you think he's an easy target then? Why is that quite a lot of people seem to single him out, and so often?

 

I think he's getting singled out cause he happened to give away the free kick from which they scored.

[Watt-Zeefuik]

3 hours ago, Wee Mikey said:

 

And yet he did this:-

 

 

 

That 👆 is simply an(other) assessment which sits at the extreme end of a continuum. Stating that he offers nothing is blinkered.

 

Anyhoo, too busy right now to read 7 pages but I reckon that Critchley will be on the case as regards Devlin's shortcomings.

 

Yeah, this thread is a car crash for the most part. We found Devlin using analytics and he's a classic case of doing a lot of things that improve a team's chance to win that a fair few fans who are into a pint or two by the time they're watching the game don't notice.

 

He had an off game on Sunday and folk dig in on that and completely forget derby days like this.

 

 

[Chimp]

Just now, HopeDiouf said:

I think he's getting singled out cause he happened to give away the free kick from which they scored.

 

No it's because he does things like this a lot. Same rash tackles and doesn't learn. He's not a young inexperienced laddie.

 

That plus the fact he's not a very good footballer means that it's hard for people to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially when he starts costing goals. 

[HopeDiouf]

1 minute ago, Chimp said:

 

No it's because he does things like this a lot. Same rash tackles and doesn't learn. He's not a young inexperienced laddie.

 

That plus the fact he's not a very good footballer means that it's hard for people to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially when he starts costing goals. 

I'm old enough to remember him getting the blame for Frankie Kent passing the ball to an opposition player which cost us a goal.  I don't think Devlins the greatest player in the world.  But he has his strengths and I can see that he is picked at times by various managers, who must feel he offers something.

[Dallas Green]

1 minute ago, Chimp said:

 

No it's because he does things like this a lot. Same rash tackles and doesn't learn. He's not a young inexperienced laddie.

 

That plus the fact he's not a very good footballer means that it's hard for people to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially when he starts costing goals. 

Spot on. He gave away an equally ridiculous free kick in the first half we were lucky they didn't score from. Was wrong side when he had absolutely no reason to be then gave away a stupid free kick. It's his MO. 

It's a shame because I loved him when he came in but he hasn't developed his game at all here. He has no composure on the ball which is shocking for someone who plays in the centre of the park. It just isn't good enough unfortunately.

[OTT]

4 minutes ago, Chimp said:

 

No it's because he does things like this a lot. Same rash tackles and doesn't learn. He's not a young inexperienced laddie.

 

That plus the fact he's not a very good footballer means that it's hard for people to give him the benefit of the doubt, especially when he starts costing goals. 

 

It wasn't just the one free kick either. He gave hibs 2 or 3 excellent set piece opportunities that a better team would have capitalised on. 

 

Fair enough Boyle made the most out of it. But we all know he's a diving *****. If you're naive in your marking of him, its going to be a foul. 

[Dallas Green]

1 minute ago, HopeDiouf said:

I'm old enough to remember him getting the blame for Frankie Kent passing the ball to an opposition player which cost us a goal.  I don't think Devlins the greatest player in the world.  But he has his strengths and I can see that he is picked at times by various managers, who must feel he offers something.

He got blamed for taking the easy back pass option as usual, he had multiple forward passes on when he received the ball. 9 times out of 10 he will chose the safest ball on, we don't need that at Hearts.

[HopeDiouf]

Just now, Dallas Green said:

He got blamed for taking the easy back pass option as usual, he had multiple forward passes on when he received the ball. 9 times out of 10 he will chose the safest ball on, we don't need that at Hearts.

Yep, but the one player who didn't get blamed, was the player who actually gave the ball away.  Always the easy scapegoat is found.

[Chimp]

6 minutes ago, Dallas Green said:

Spot on. He gave away an equally ridiculous free kick in the first half we were lucky they didn't score from. Was wrong side when he had absolutely no reason to be then gave away a stupid free kick. It's his MO. 

It's a shame because I loved him when he came in but he hasn't developed his game at all here. He has no composure on the ball which is shocking for someone who plays in the centre of the park. It just isn't good enough unfortunately.

 

Exactly.

 

I'm in the same boat I loved him when he first came in too, and thought he would only get better yet somehow he's stagnated. And unfortunately I think that's because his ceiling can't go any higher. It can't be trained as he doesn't have the footballing intelligence or technical ability to do so. 

[Dallas Green]

8 minutes ago, HopeDiouf said:

Yep, but the one player who didn't get blamed, was the player who actually gave the ball away.  Always the easy scapegoat is found.

Kent did get blamed but it was Devlin's choice to play the safest ball possible rather than get us attacking again.

You know another thing he does. He will come short for the pass out of defence then play it back to the CB's but instead of then looking for space to help us play out he will stay in a space that no pass can be made. It then puts our CB's under pressure as they have to try and find another pass out or we go side to side. Beni and Boateng will do similar except they will often turn to face the oppositions goal or look for the return pass from the CB's to bring an opposition attacker out of the press. Devlin is either not smart enough to play in the centre of the park or he hides from the pass when a difficult decision needs made. Don't get me started on his crumpling to the ground either under slight pressure. We are lucky to get any free kicks from it. 

Again though, I liked him when we first got him but he has not grown as a player in the slightest and I just don't see him doing it either.

Edited October 29, 2024 by Dallas Green

[Chimp]

6 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

It wasn't just the one free kick either. He gave hibs 2 or 3 excellent set piece opportunities that a better team would have capitalised on. 

 

Fair enough Boyle made the most out of it. But we all know he's a diving *****. If you're naive in your marking of him, its going to be a foul. 

Yep and that's just one game. He does the same sort of thing all the time which is the problem. For every good tackle he makes he also commits a silly number of daft fouls which like Saturday proved costly.

[HopeDiouf]

Just now, Dallas Green said:

Kent did get blamed but it was Devlin's choice to play the safest ball possible rather than get us attacking again.

You know another thing he does. He will come short for the pass out of defence then play it back to the CB's but instead of then looking for space to help us play out he will stay in a space that no pass can be made. It then puts out CB's under pressure as they have to try and find another pass out or we go side to side. Beni and Boateng will do similar except they will often turn to face the oppositions goal or look for the return pass from the CB's to bring an opposition attacker out of the press. Devlin is either not smart enough to play in the centre of the park or he hides from the pass when a difficult decision needs made. Don't get me started on his crumpling to the ground either under slight pressure. We are lucky to get any free kicks from it. 

Again though, I liked him when we first got him but he has not grown as a player in the slightest and I just don't see him doing it either.

As I said above, I'm happy enough to trust the managers judgement.  I don't think he's a first 11 starter, but as we saw on Sunday, we don't have our first 11 available all the time.

 

[Smithian]

5 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

If you can’t see the gulf between Beni and Devlin then I can’t help you I’m afraid

I actually really like the Beni/Devlin combo. I think Beni is a better player, but they're also very different in what they're asked to do.

 

[RustyRightPeg]

50 minutes ago, HopeDiouf said:

I'm old enough to remember him getting the blame for Frankie Kent passing the ball to an opposition player which cost us a goal.  I don't think Devlins the greatest player in the world.  But he has his strengths and I can see that he is picked at times by various managers, who must feel he offers something.

You’re still using this as a comfort blanket but you keep bringing up the worst example possible. Do you want me to go and get the photos again?

[HopeDiouf]

Just now, RustyRightPeg said:

You’re still using this as a comfort blanket but you keep bringing up the worst example possible. Do you want me to go and get the photos again?

go for it if you want, I'm not that bothered.  Happy enough to trust the managers judgement on whether Devlin is worth a place in squad/team or not.

[RustyRightPeg]

2 minutes ago, HopeDiouf said:

go for it if you want, I'm not that bothered.  Happy enough to trust the managers judgement on whether Devlin is worth a place in squad/team or not.

Do you genuinely think he’d play if Beni was fit?

[HopeDiouf]

Just now, RustyRightPeg said:

Do you genuinely think he’d play if Beni was fit?

no.  but as we saw last two games, beni isn't always fit.

[gnasher75]

First of all I think Boyle was very clever in the way he won the free kick. Devlin was a bit rash but no one would be talking about it if it hadn't led to a goal.

 

Secondly I love Cammy and I am delighted to see him getting game time in his preferred position. The energy he brings is vital at times and his stats for ball winning are exceptional.

 

I don't think he was helped by Naismith's attempt to reinvent him into an attacking midfielder. Looking forward to seeing how Critchley approaches getting the best out of him.

 

 

[Dana Scully]

8 hours ago, HopeDiouf said:

at least 3 of those 4 apply to beni as well.  But I'm guessing you won't be knocking him like you are Devlin.

[Dana Scully]

7 hours ago, jtkb said:

Cammy is your A typical water carrier. 

Great athlete but a tycnicaly poor football player.

That’s nonsense imo. Brellier, Salvatori even Neil McFarlane were water carriers in Hearts teams but none of them were technically poor and all of them could play a forward pass.

[Gavman81]

Devlin is good enough as a 3/4th option at a club like us and had a reasonable game on Sun - the freekick was daft but the defending from our CBs and keeper was still poor once the ball came in. 
 

Will he play every week? Of course not but at our level and budget a very decent player to have and on his game can be very effective.

 

Yes, could do with a bit more composure but maybe Critchley will be able to improve him in that regard. 

[spirt of 98]

10 hours ago, Japan Jambo said:

Love the passion that the guy has for the game but am no longer excited to see his name on the starting line up. I had hoped he'd have developed more, let’s see if the Critch can get a better tune out of him.

Devlin cost us a win on Saturday, it was his stupid foul on Boyle that gave away the free kick that led to the goal. He gave away a couple of needless free kicks around the box. He is very limited, can’t fault his desire though but Hearts are well above his level. 

[Fozzyonthefence]

2 hours ago, spirt of 98 said:

Devlin cost us a win on Saturday, it was his stupid foul on Boyle that gave away the free kick that led to the goal. He gave away a couple of needless free kicks around the box. He is very limited, can’t fault his desire though but Hearts are well above his level. 

You don’t think the defending from the free kick by the defenders and Gordon afterwards was maybe more to do with costing us a win?  Yeah it was a daft free kick but not in a particularly dangerous area (basically a corner which you shouldn’t be conceding from anyway).  Gordon tips that header over the bar like he should have done or one of the defenders picks the guy up at the back post instead of giving him a free header nobody would even be talking about it (well actually one or two no doubt would be as usual).
 

I’ll be interested to see on every other goal we lose from a free kick this season if the perpetrator is vilified as much as Devlin.  I very much doubt it. 

[Fozzyonthefence]

5 hours ago, Dana Scully said:

That’s nonsense imo. Brellier, Salvatori even Neil McFarlane were water carriers in Hearts teams but none of them were technically poor and all of them could play a forward pass.

A bit of wishful revisionism there I think.  Brellier had one assist in 60 games for us.  Salvatori only had 2 assists in his entire career and McFarlane only 5 in his career.
 

But I can’t believe you’re mentioning Neil McFarlane in the same breath as Salvatori and Brellier!

[Morgan]

5 hours ago, Dana Scully said:

That’s nonsense imo. Brellier, Salvatori even Neil McFarlane were water carriers in Hearts teams but none of them were technically poor and all of them could play a forward pass.

At last!

 

I knew you weren’t for real.  And now, you’ve just proven it.

 

Neil McFarlane?

 

In the same post as the magnificent Stefano Salvatori and the wee legend that is Brellier.

 

 

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

On 28/10/2024 at 19:05, RustyRightPeg said:

Genuine question what potential do you see?

 

The guy cannot kick the ball properly. He doesn’t score, he doesn’t assist and he’s a liability defensively. 

 

well let’s hope cammy never reads this

 

 

[MoncurMacdonaldMercer]

On 28/10/2024 at 10:40, Gundermann said:

 

Yeah, when he gave away the free-kick for their goal, I thought 'not again ffs, does he ever learn?'.

 

He's Wee Devlin alright. Wee in all the wrong ways.

 

or this

 

 

[Dana Scully]

8 hours ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

A bit of wishful revisionism there I think.  Brellier had one assist in 60 games for us.  Salvatori only had 2 assists in his entire career and McFarlane only 5 in his career.
 

But I can’t believe you’re mentioning Neil McFarlane in the same breath as Salvatori and Brellier!

 

7 hours ago, Morgan said:

At last!

 

I knew you weren’t for real.  And now, you’ve just proven it.

 

Neil McFarlane?

 

In the same post as the magnificent Stefano Salvatori and the wee legend that is Brellier.

 

 

McFarlane was a mainstay in the Hearts team that finished 3rd in 02/03 and 03/04 under Levein. He played his part perfectly and allowed the likes of Hartley, Stamp, Boyack and Valois to create. I’d much rather have McFarlane in the current Hearts team than Devlin.

[Dana Scully]

8 hours ago, Fozzyonthefence said:

Brellier had one assist in 60 games for us.  Salvatori only had 2 assists in his entire career and McFarlane only 5 in his career.

What on earth do assists have to do with the water carrier role? Technical ability ≠ assists. Even the greatest water carriers of all time like Deschamps, Makelele etc would have had very few assists. 

[Aussie Jambo]

Dhanda reminds me of Jean-Louis Valois. Super skilful on the ball. Full of tricks. I like everything I’ve seen so far. Should be a starter every game. 

Edited October 30, 2024 by Aussie Jambo

[Penrices left boot]

Gogic through last season or 2 offers more than Devlin.

That hurt typing. 

 

The guy is a squad player, but at 26, considering what he wants and his likley wages at some point a move will suit all.

 

He's only getting game time as Beni/ hoff are playing tag with the treatment table and Tait is being introduced slowly.

 

Devlins perceived good qualities of tackling and endeavour are not enough to cover up his glaring lack of composure, decision making or quality on the ball.

I'm not sure He's even a good tackler and his running about at times is pointless. Folk just think he's good as it's  better than the other things he does. 

 

He's miles of Beni and Boateng and the Hoff showed early that he can learn,  adapt and develop way quicker than Devlin has.

 

He's decent back up, but no one wants him in the team for a long run of games as it means our better options are injured.

 

 

 

 

[Ian Black 8]

On 29/10/2024 at 02:17, John Findlay said:

Still he could have brought him down in the box and gave away a penalty. Something you've never done Ian?

Or banjo an opposition player in the opening minutes, which on another day with another referee could have seen a straight Red Card. Some players don't get away with it like others.

Ian, you’re not the best person to lecture others about making rash tackles.

So what ur saying John is that I can’t say anything negative about a Hearts player because I’m no the best person to lecture someone 😂😂😂 If u read any my other posts regarding Cammy Devlin I’ve never once said a negative thing about him before that comment a made.. he’s actually my type of player 👍🏼 what a said was facts pal the game of football is soft as shit now u can’t sneeze on someone or it’s a foul then u have the pain in the arse of var checking every time someone gets challenged… ma point is that Boyle was gone nowhere he’s stuck in a corner 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️ but since I’m no in the position to lecture any Hearts players maybe every fan on this site should deactivate their account cos half the people tell the team how to be a professional football or how they are no good enough for this club 😂🤷🏻‍♂️👍🏼

[Doc Rob]

1 hour ago, Bazzas right boot said:

Gogic through last season or 2 offers more than Devlin.

That hurt typing. 

 

The guy is a squad player, but at 26, considering what he wants and his likley wages at some point a move will suit all.

 

He's only getting game time as Beni/ hoff are playing tag with the treatment table and Tait is being introduced slowly.

 

Devlins perceived good qualities of tackling and endeavour are not enough to cover up his glaring lack of composure, decision making or quality on the ball.

I'm not sure He's even a good tackler and his running about at times is pointless. Folk just think he's good as it's  better than the other things he does. 

 

He's miles of Beni and Boateng and the Hoff showed early that he can learn,  adapt and develop way quicker than Devlin has.

 

He's decent back up, but no one wants him in the team for a long run of games as it means our better options are injured.

 

 

 

 

I think he is a good tackler. As I think someone said further up, he wins balls that he has no right to win, simply through a dogged refusal to give up. If you’re playing against him you know he will harry you constantly and give you no peace. There is definitely a place for that sort of tenacity, and I love his non-stop energy.

 

Having said that, I agree that technically he is the most limited of our midfield options, and he hasn’t really progressed since he arrived. His best position is on the bench, to add zip to the team when they are tiring, and I doubt he will get another contract. When he goes, I’ll thank him for the endeavour and for his boundless enthusiasm - you know he properly gets the club - but I’ll be confident we’ll find a better replacement.

Edited October 30, 2024 by Doc Rob

[Dana Scully]

20 minutes ago, Doc Rob said:

I think he is a good tackler. As I think someone said further up, he wins balls that he has no right to win, simply through a dogged refusal to give up. If you’re playing against him you know he will harry you constantly and give you no peace. There is definitely a place for that sort of tenacity, and I love his non-stop energy.

 

Having said that, I agree that technically he is the most limited of our midfield options, and he hasn’t really progressed since he arrived. His best position is on the bench, to add zip to the team when they are tiring, and I doubt he will get another contract. When he goes, I’ll thank him for the endeavour and for his boundless enthusiasm - you know he properly gets the club - but I’ll be confident we’ll find a better replacement.

[upgotheheads]

28 minutes ago, Doc Rob said:

I think he is a good tackler. As I think someone said further up, he wins balls that he has no right to win, simply through a dogged refusal to give up. If you’re playing against him you know he will harry you constantly and give you no peace. There is definitely a place for that sort of tenacity, and I love his non-stop energy.

 

Having said that, I agree that technically he is the most limited of our midfield options, and he hasn’t really progressed since he arrived. His best position is on the bench, to add zip to the team when they are tiring, and I doubt he will get another contract. When he goes, I’ll thank him for the endeavour and for his boundless enthusiasm - you know he properly gets the club - but I’ll be confident we’ll find a better replacement.

 

I wouldn't argue with that, but he's also a high-risk tackler, as evidenced by his regular bookings. It's one thing taking a risk in the opponent's half when a foul is unlikely to lead to booking and a free kick in a dangerous position and doing the same thing just outside our penalty box. On Saturday he nearly gave away a goal in the first half and cost us a goal in the second. 

As the commentators said then, he needs to learn when the reward of winning the ball deep in your own half isn't worth the risk of giving away a free kick in the same position. Sometimes it's enough just to jockey a player while other defenders do their job. 

[Penrices left boot]

2 hours ago, Doc Rob said:

I think he is a good tackler. As I think someone said further up, he wins balls that he has no right to win, simply through a dogged refusal to give up. If you’re playing against him you know he will harry you constantly and give you no peace. There is definitely a place for that sort of tenacity, and I love his non-stop energy.

 

Having said that, I agree that technically he is the most limited of our midfield options, and he hasn’t really progressed since he arrived. His best position is on the bench, to add zip to the team when they are tiring, and I doubt he will get another contract. When he goes, I’ll thank him for the endeavour and for his boundless enthusiasm - you know he properly gets the club - but I’ll be confident we’ll find a better replacement.

 

 

Agreed in general, but energy, tackling, work rate is pointless without composure/ awareness/ quality.

Unfortunately he's just not kicked on.

 

He's a midfielder not a long distance runner.

 

He'll be remembered fondly as he got us and always gave his all.

 

 

Tbh, If playing against him, you'd be happy for him to win the ball now and then, he doesn't drive forward,  not a goal threat and his passing is awful,  tbh if playing against him you'd happily let him have the ball.

 

I remember Snodgrass getting pelters, part of the reason was that at that time the opposition would stick 2 men on him in the full knowledge Devlin was unable step up, take the ball and make things happen. 

He's a midfielder that can't midfield. 

 

You also  know he'll spill possession and giveaway needless fouls, often in dangerous areas.

 

Just as you'd dread playing him for harrying and work rate, you'd relish playing against him as he's predictable and easy to manage.

 

He gives his all and he has had good games, but I've also seen him just kick the ball away, more than once.

 

 

 

Edited October 30, 2024 by Bazzas right boot

[Penrices left boot]

1 hour ago, upgotheheads said:

 

I wouldn't argue with that, but he's also a high-risk tackler, as evidenced by his regular bookings. It's one thing taking a risk in the opponent's half when a foul is unlikely to lead to booking and a free kick in a dangerous position and doing the same thing just outside our penalty box. On Saturday he nearly gave away a goal in the first half and cost us a goal in the second. 

As the commentators said then, he needs to learn when the reward of winning the ball deep in your own half isn't worth the risk of giving away a free kick in the same position. Sometimes it's enough just to jockey a player while other defenders do their job. 

 

He's not learned,  he's 26.

 

 

[Watt-Zeefuik]

21 hours ago, Dallas Green said:

Kent did get blamed but it was Devlin's choice to play the safest ball possible rather than get us attacking again.
 

 

Kent barely got mentioned on JKB about the goal. It was bizarre. And this has been done to death but Devlin had already made one attacking pass that Taylor turned around and passed back to him when he had pressure on him. Kent had nobody near him.

 

Very much like Saturday, as others have pointed out, the free kick was a somewhat dangerous one but not dramatically more than a corner. Boyle hooked his leg and then deliberately fell over Devlin to draw the foul but folk have somehow managed to forget that Boyle is a diving shitebag.

[Carter]

5 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

 

Kent barely got mentioned on JKB about the goal. It was bizarre. And this has been done to death but Devlin had already made one attacking pass that Taylor turned around and passed back to him when he had pressure on him. Kent had nobody near him.

 

Very much like Saturday, as others have pointed out, the free kick was a somewhat dangerous one but not dramatically more than a corner. Boyle hooked his leg and then deliberately fell over Devlin to draw the foul but folk have somehow managed to forget that Boyle is a diving shitebag.

It was abysmal from Devlin against Plzen at their goal. 

[Watt-Zeefuik]

5 minutes ago, Carter said:

It was abysmal from Devlin against Plzen at their goal. 

 

I wanted to make sure I knew what you  were talking about so I went back and watched it. You can't possibly be serious.

 

You mean the goal where Kent misplays an absolutely bizarre pass over to Dhanda that goes to absolutely nobody, then Dhanda takes a casual swipe at it and lets two players go past him, at which point they get it wide and cross it past Boating (the only other player doing anything decent on that play), at which point it bounces in front of Rowles who blinks at it like it's kind of a new thing to see there, gets played to the top of the box where Kent, who's been ball watching at the back post starts to lumber forward and makes a half-hearted slide?

 

But it's Devlin, who ran nearly 70 yards back and nearly made a goal-saving tackle except for a very alert play by their winger to cut it back, who's "abysmal?"

 

Words fail.

[RustyRightPeg]

1 minute ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

 

I wanted to make sure I knew what you  were talking about so I went back and watched it. You can't possibly be serious.

 

You mean the goal where Kent misplays an absolutely bizarre pass over to Dhanda that goes to absolutely nobody, then Dhanda takes a casual swipe at it and lets two players go past him, at which point they get it wide and cross it past Boating (the only other player doing anything decent on that play), at which point it bounces in front of Rowles who blinks at it like it's kind of a new thing to see there, gets played to the top of the box where Kent, who's been ball watching at the back post starts to lumber forward and makes a half-hearted slide?

 

But it's Devlin, who ran nearly 70 yards back and nearly made a goal-saving tackle except for a very alert play by their winger to cut it back, who's "abysmal?"

 

Words fail.

No, it’s abysmal that he took the ball facing the opposition goal, had 4 options in front of him but turned round took the 5th which was Kent. Furthermore, after passing to Kent, instead of making an angle to receive the ball again, he runs away from him with his back to the ball. 

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20 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

 Boyle is a diving shitebag.

Exactly and it's why Devlin not standing off him was even worse.

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I usually go on Wyscout after every game and rewatch specific players that split the fans opinions. You can watch all of a players involvements during a game in 5-10 minutes.

 

Devlin is one that will misplace one pass or take one bad touch and will be lauded as hopeless and given a 4/10 on JKB rating threads, despite not putting another foot wrong the whole game and producing some fantastic stuff.

 

Yet Shankland, Kent, or one of the other fan favourites will make 10x more mistakes, have not much of a contribution and score higher.

 

Hearts fans are so blinded by personal opinions and prejudices that they can’t see facts. It’s been that way for ages and is so bloody boring.

 

I’m happy to download all of a players actions during any game you think they’ve been hopeless and send them to you. In five minutes you’d probably change your mind to “ah actually he was decent” in most cases.