Cammy Devlin

[The Old Tolbooth]

4 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

I’d agree with that. Assuming Starlizard is being used to its fullest extent, probably no one who is here now will still be here in the summer of 2026

I was thinking Kent, Boateng, and possibly Beni if he stays fit, I’d give a chance to Wilson as we don’t know how good he’s going to be, the rest will be released in my opinion. 

[JimmyCant]

16 minutes ago, The Old Tolbooth said:

I was thinking Kent, Boateng, and possibly Beni if he stays fit, I’d give a chance to Wilson as we don’t know how good he’s going to be, the rest will be released in my opinion. 

Boateng is too good for us. He’ll not be here long. Kent will be upgraded. Not sure he likes it that much here anyway. Beni - He’ll eventually get an injury that finishes him. Wilson - I’d get him on a five year deal right now and yes, he might survive the cull 😂 

[Opinionated Jambo]

On 27/10/2024 at 17:39, Ian Black 8 said:

Boyle was gone nowhere Cammy should’ve just stood he’s let him turn n taken him down was pretty school boy defending knowing what Boyle was looking for in that situation 🤷🏻‍♂️ they kind of fouls need to be in the Hibs half no near ur own goals otherwise we will be punished 

Exactly this @Ian Black 8. Boyle had his back to goal, he wasn't going anywhere dangerous, soon as they tussled for the ball Boyle then got infront of him and was taken down - albeit a bit soft but that was Boyle's plan the whole time. Cammy Devlin needs to be more smart in these situations especially against a player like Martin Boyle who is already looking to win a free-kick at any given opportunity.  

[GingaNinja]

So many people in this thread showing they know nothing about picking a football team . Deary me ! 

[Rudi cant fail]

1 hour ago, Vlad Magic said:

I suspect Critchley will be making young Devlin a special project. The potential is there in abundance. The ingredients ready to make a sumptuous meal. It’s just not ready yet.

 

I guarantee Critchley is licking his lips at the prospect of turning Devlin into the player he should be.

 

Watch this space.

Have to disagree. The main Ingredients aren’t there. He’s 26, and not improved since he signed. I think there is a place for him as seen when he came on against st Mirren when his energy gave us a lift. He won’t and shouldn’t start when we have any two of Beni, hoff and malachi fit. 
can’t fault his attitude and seems like a nice guy, but I just don’t think he’s going to kick on.

Edited October 28, 2024 by Rudi cant fail
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[RustyRightPeg]

1 hour ago, Vlad Magic said:

I suspect Critchley will be making young Devlin a special project. The potential is there in abundance. The ingredients ready to make a sumptuous meal. It’s just not ready yet.

 

I guarantee Critchley is licking his lips at the prospect of turning Devlin into the player he should be.

 

Watch this space.

Genuine question what potential do you see?

 

The guy cannot kick the ball properly. He doesn’t score, he doesn’t assist and he’s a liability defensively. 

[Dana Scully]

2 hours ago, JimmyCant said:

He can’t be both things. If he’s at his highest level, he’s not a sellable asset

 

2 hours ago, Morgan said:

Is that not contradictory?

He could be sold on to a similar level.

[Dana Scully]

1 hour ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

 

Aye, because it's shite that he was terrific for us as we garnered a six figure payout on Thursday.

 

Some people, I swear.

If he can only be played in certain games then he isn’t good enough to play for us. For me he is a waste of a jersey in home games where we dominate the ball against teams who play the low block. Now you’re also saying he’s a waste of a jersey in tough away games. Are we just going to freeze him Rocky Horror style and thaw him out whenever we play a European tie?

[upgotheheads]

6 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Genuine question what potential do you see?

 

The guy cannot kick the ball properly. He doesn’t score, he doesn’t assist and he’s a liability defensively. 

 

He's a defensive midfielder, he has scored some important goals, and he does assist, but his defensive qualities are spoiled by his over-competitive tackles.

[Dana Scully]

1 hour ago, The Old Tolbooth said:

I was thinking Kent, Boateng, and possibly Beni if he stays fit, I’d give a chance to Wilson as we don’t know how good he’s going to be, the rest will be released in my opinion. 

Extremely harsh on Spittal, Hoff and Penrice imo.

[Dallas Green]

23 hours ago, Valois No1 said:

The wee man has the heart of a lion and the ability of a brick. I like him just for him being him but he’s not at the standard needed. 

That's brilliant.

22 hours ago, FERRY HEARTS said:

Spot on ! I’m gonna say Dev is more reliable stopper than Beni and Boateng is a better player than both of them. IMO 

Are you saying Devlin is better than Beni?

[Dana Scully]

1 hour ago, Vlad Magic said:

I suspect Critchley will be making young Devlin a special project. The potential is there in abundance. The ingredients ready to make a sumptuous meal. It’s just not ready yet.

 

I guarantee Critchley is licking his lips at the prospect of turning Devlin into the player he should be.

 

Watch this space.

[RustyRightPeg]

4 minutes ago, upgotheheads said:

 

He's a defensive midfielder, he has scored some important goals, and he does assist, but his defensive qualities are spoiled by his over-competitive tackles.

According to Flashscores.
 

100 domestic games, 3 goals, 8 assists, 28 yellow cards. 

Edited October 28, 2024 by RustyRightPeg

[Threedoorsdown]

I like Cammy. He’s a very average footballer though.

[Morgan]

20 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Genuine question what potential do you see?

 

The guy cannot kick the ball properly. He doesn’t score, he doesn’t assist and he’s a liability defensively. 

 

He’s got a Messi top though.  

[Morgan]

Just now, Threedoorsdown said:

I like Cammy. He’s a very average footballer though.

I love my wife.  She’s a shite footballer though.

[indianajones]

1 minute ago, Morgan said:

I love my wife.  She’s a shite footballer though.

 

🤣

[John Findlay]

At this moment in time, I personally would play Cammy Devlin before I would play Kenneth Vargas.

[RustyRightPeg]

It might seem harsh, but if we want to progress as a club the likes of Devlin aren’t the type to get us there. 

Good servant yes, but everyone’s time to move on comes, he is no different. 

[Watt-Zeefuik]

34 minutes ago, Dana Scully said:

If he can only be played in certain games then he isn’t good enough to play for us. For me he is a waste of a jersey in home games where we dominate the ball against teams who play the low block. Now you’re also saying he’s a waste of a jersey in tough away games. Are we just going to freeze him Rocky Horror style and thaw him out whenever we play a European tie?

 

Oh FFS stop being deliberately dense. Certain players are better fits for some games than for others. He's not a "waste of a jersey in tough away games," he's less than optimal in games where a desperate opponent is going to be trying to both kick us off the pitch and dive their way into opportunities.

 

He's a big asset any time we need to break up play in the middle of the pitch. That wasn't as needed against Hibs because of the way they play and when you have shitehouses like Boyle whose entire game is predicated on that kind of garbage.

[Alan_R]

54 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Genuine question what potential do you see?

 

The guy cannot kick the ball properly. He doesn’t score, he doesn’t assist and he’s a liability defensively. 

 

V Rosenberg he was all of those things.  Probably his best game in maroon 

[RustyRightPeg]

5 minutes ago, Alan_R said:

 

V Rosenberg he was all of those things.  Probably his best game in maroon 

1 game?

[Threedoorsdown]

52 minutes ago, Morgan said:

I love my wife.  She’s a shite footballer though.

 

Her ball skills are tremendous I heard.

 

🙃

[Dana Scully]

59 minutes ago, Morgan said:

I love my wife.  She’s a shite footballer though.

Does she also let you down in dangerous positions? 😛

[Dana Scully]

36 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

He's a big asset any time we need to break up play in the middle of the pitch. That wasn't as needed against Hibs because of the way they play and when you have shitehouses like Boyle whose entire game is predicated on that kind of garbage.

It’s not needed in the vast majority of games we play, that’s the problem. 

[Dana Scully]

27 minutes ago, Alan_R said:

 

V Rosenberg he was all of those things.  Probably his best game in maroon 

One game in three years 

[Watt-Zeefuik]

Just now, Dana Scully said:

It’s not needed in the vast majority of games we play, that’s the problem. 

 

Pfft. Over half of SPFL teams move the ball through the middle of the pitch, unless styles have changed drastically in a couple of teams I haven't seen this year.

 

You are picking some ridiculous hills to die on.

[Dana Scully]

1 minute ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

 

Pfft. Over half of SPFL teams move the ball through the middle of the pitch, unless styles have changed drastically in a couple of teams I haven't seen this year.

 

You are picking some ridiculous hills to die on.

Nah pretty much every team we come up against outside the Old Firm plays a low block when they visit Tynie and most also do it at home against us.

 

Hardly picking a hill to die on when most other posters feel exactly the same.

[Watt-Zeefuik]

1 minute ago, Dana Scully said:

Nah pretty much every team we come up against outside the Old Firm plays a low block when they visit Tynie and most also do it at home against us.

 

Hardly picking a hill to die on when most other posters feel exactly the same.

 

"most other posters" = about a dozen or so moaners on this thread.

 

 

"Aside from some MotM performances in major European competitions, points picked up in Glasgow, heroic plays in derbies, an unfailing level of effort, a love for Hearts' supporters and the club, an unselfish attitude who doesn't moan when he's dropped, a valuable reserve in case of injuries in midfield, outstanding defensive and possession analytics, and a receptivity to coaching that's been praised by everyone who's ever managed him, what has Cammy Devlin ever done for Hearts?!? Nothing!!!"

[Aussie Jambo]

 How many cards has Devlin received since playing at Hearts? Genuine question. Plus how many of those leads to a goal or us losing the game? 

[Morgan]

24 minutes ago, Threedoorsdown said:

 

Her ball skills are tremendous I heard.

 

🙃

 

Funny, she said the same about you.  😚

 

18 minutes ago, Dana Scully said:

Does she also let you down in dangerous positions? 😛

 

Not often tbh.

 

Very adventurous, bends over backwards to help out and goes down easily whenever necessary.  😎

[Dana Scully]

8 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

 

"most other posters" = about a dozen or so moaners on this thread.

 

 

"Aside from some MotM performances in major European competitions, points picked up in Glasgow, heroic plays in derbies, an unfailing level of effort, a love for Hearts' supporters and the club, an unselfish attitude who doesn't moan when he's dropped, a valuable reserve in case of injuries in midfield, outstanding defensive and possession analytics, and a receptivity to coaching that's been praised by everyone who's ever managed him, what has Cammy Devlin ever done for Hearts?!? Nothing!!!"

“heroic” “unfailing” “outstanding”

 

[Dana Scully]

2 minutes ago, Morgan said:

 

Funny, she said the same about you.  😚

 

 

Not often tbh.

 

Very adventurous, bends over backwards to help out and goes down easily whenever necessary.  😎

😂

[gwd1957]

22 hours ago, Jamhammer said:

Didn’t realise till Sportscene but he also gave the foul away that Gayle should’ve scored from first half

Not good enough

Committed but extremely limited 

 

 

He's better suited to Ozzy Football , lots of running and pushing on a much bigger park ,you could see him becoming a big star in that game , but not in our game .

[gwd1957]

3 hours ago, Vlad Magic said:

I suspect Critchley will be making young Devlin a special project. The potential is there in abundance. The ingredients ready to make a sumptuous meal. It’s just not ready yet.

 

I guarantee Critchley is licking his lips at the prospect of turning Devlin into the player he should be.

 

Watch this space.

The wizard of Oz couldn't turn him into an intelligent footballer ,he just isn't very good .

[RENE]

2 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

1 game?

According to NC he was one of the best players against Omonoia last week.

[John Findlay]

On 27/10/2024 at 17:39, Ian Black 8 said:

Boyle was gone nowhere Cammy should’ve just stood he’s let him turn n taken him down was pretty school boy defending knowing what Boyle was looking for in that situation 🤷🏻‍♂️ they kind of fouls need to be in the Hibs half no near ur own goals otherwise we will be punished 

Still he could have brought him down in the box and gave away a penalty. Something you've never done Ian?

Or banjo an opposition player in the opening minutes, which on another day with another referee could have seen a straight Red Card. Some players don't get away with it like others.

Ian, your not the best person to lecture others about making rash tackles.

[Dana Scully]

The more I think about this idea of him only being suitable for certain games the more ridiculous it sounds. I genuinely can’t think of any other player, let alone a previous Hearts player, who is only suitable for a fraction of his club‘s games. 
 

It would be slightly more understandable if he was an 18yo finding his way in the game but he’s a 26yo who’s been here three years.

 

Love the wee man’s heart and passion but he shouldn’t be playing for a team like Hearts. Will have a great career at the likes of St Mirren or Kilmarnock.

[Dana Scully]

3 hours ago, John Findlay said:

Still he could have brought him down in the box and gave away a penalty. Something you've never done Ian?

Or banjo an opposition player in the opening minutes, which on another day with another referee could have seen a straight Red Card. Some players don't get away with it like others.

Ian, your not the best person to lecture others about making rash tackles.

Some might argue that someone who has been there and made mistakes is exactly the right person to teach others, in all walks of life.

 

“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

[FERRY HEARTS]

11 hours ago, Dallas Green said:

That's brilliant.

Are you saying Devlin is better than Beni?

I am saying Devlin is more reliable as I’d imagine he has play a lot more game time over past season and is not as injury prone 

[Dana Scully]

31 minutes ago, FERRY HEARTS said:

I am saying Devlin is more reliable as I’d imagine he has play a lot more game time over past season and is not as injury prone 

 

 

He’s definitely benefitted from others being injured. We’ve had three other central midfielders have long-term injuries while he’s been here. 

[FERRY HEARTS]

30 minutes ago, Dana Scully said:

 

 

He’s definitely benefitted from others being injured. We’ve had three other central midfielders have long-term injuries while he’s been here. 

These Aussie types are tuff creatures , Most Iv encountered don’t shirk responsibility!

 

[John Findlay]

2 hours ago, Dana Scully said:

Some might argue that someone who has been there and made mistakes is exactly the right person to teach others, in all walks of life.

 

“Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

People who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.

[Bickfest]

8 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

People who live in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones.

Well said. All combative midfielders give away fouls needlessly/rashly from time to time. I see to remember just such an occasion on 1 Jan 2006, which led to a goal and a disastrous home defeat against Celtic, which effectively ended our challenge. Who was the culprit? None other than Rudi himself! 

 

The problem on Saturday was not the foul, which gave them little more than a corner, but the subsequent defending of the cross. Simple.

 

And I don't hear any howls of displeasure about the needless free kick given by Kent at the other end which ended a promising attack. These fouls are just as costly in the long run. It's time to move on. The management will make the right decisions about who's good enough, who can be improved with coaching, who to sell on etc. I'm more than happy to let them do their jobs.

[Captain Lithuania]

10 hours ago, RENE said:

According to NC he was one of the best players against Omonoia last week.

It's a squad game, we need everybody to be part of it as we have a busy schedule. Doesn't change the fact he will be moved on.

[HopeDiouf]

14 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Genuine question what potential do you see?

 

The guy cannot kick the ball properly. He doesn’t score, he doesn’t assist and he’s a liability defensively. 

at least 3 of those 4 apply to beni as well.  But I'm guessing you won't be knocking him like you are Devlin.

[RustyRightPeg]

9 minutes ago, HopeDiouf said:

at least 3 of those 4 apply to beni as well.  But I'm guessing you won't be knocking him like you are Devlin.

If you can’t see the gulf between Beni and Devlin then I can’t help you I’m afraid

[HopeDiouf]

3 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

If you can’t see the gulf between Beni and Devlin then I can’t help you I’m afraid

I can see both have some attributes the other doesn't.  I can see that BOTH don't score or get assists and BOTH can't kick the ball very well.

[Japan Jambo]

Love the passion that the guy has for the game but am no longer excited to see his name on the starting line up. I had hoped he'd have developed more, lets see if the Critch can get a better tune out of him.

[jtkb]

Cammy is your A typical water carrier. 

Great athlete but a tycnicaly poor football player. I am sure he has optical problems can only see side way passes 😆 but there is times when you need players like him. Of the bench when the game goes flat to inject life in to a game like last Thursday suits him. But with a choice of beni MB and the hoff cammy will be lucky to be on the bench but great player to have for injury cover I guess. One thing he does have is amazing character and you can not help love him for that.