Cammy Devlin

[RustyRightPeg]

16 minutes ago, 1971fozzy said:

never mind we couldn’t successfully defend their goal. Fouls are given away all over the pitch. Devlins game is always going to give away free kicks. Many players in many teams do this. It’s a given and part of their game. Hardly surprising. He gives us plenty positives 

How the **** is giving a needless free kick away when Boyle is facing the corner flag acceptable? 
 

Are you saying everything else he brings us makes up for his stupid mistakes? He offers **** all in an attacking sense and he doesn’t get any assists. 

[jack D and coke]

Absolutely not. His game is last ditch interceptions and tackles. 
Sometimes it’ll get him or us into a bit trouble but you have to accept it. 
IMO anyway. 
Who else chases and harasses? 
No *****. 

[sam?]

Too many stupid fouls . One in first half nearly cost us . One in second half did 

[Dana Scully]

Just now, jack D and coke said:

Who else chases and harasses? 
No *****. 

 

[RustyRightPeg]

3 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Absolutely not. His game is last ditch interceptions and tackles. 
Sometimes it’ll get him or us into a bit trouble but you have to accept it. 
IMO anyway. 
Who else chases and harasses? 
No *****. 

Really? 

[leith_dude]

He made a silly foul for the free kick but other than that I thought he was fine as most of them were today.

 

He's not as good as Beni but not many in this league are.

 

I think he's got a lot of good attributes and I hope he continues to improve under Critchley as he has done since he arrived. 

 

 

[Chimp]

“Wee Devlin” isn’t good enough. Don’t give a monkeys what any of his loyal admirers say because of his tenacity and work rate. Safe backwards and sidewards passes are his speciality. Also a guaranteed booking for a mistimed lunge which then makes him completely ineffective. Cost the goal today. Meanwhile you have his midfield partner Boateng who’s 4 years younger showing him up something silly. He’s one of the only players at the club I’ve seen who have gone backwards as time has gone on. I’d love someone to tell me how he’s improved since he first arrived.

[Chimp]

8 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

How the **** is giving a needless free kick away when Boyle is facing the corner flag acceptable? 
 

Are you saying everything else he brings us makes up for his stupid mistakes? He offers **** all in an attacking sense and he doesn’t get any assists. 

Absolutely spot on. 

[ArcticJambo]

I'm not a fan, whatsoever!

[jack D and coke]

5 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Really? 

What position does he play??

[spacerjoe]

7 minutes ago, Dana Scully said:

We could have blown them away in those first twenty minutes with a better footballer beside Boateng.

Like we did on Thursday you mean? Against a better side? With Devlin playing?

 

You said it took Hibs 15 mins to figure us out. Why did we not blow them away before then? Or even look like we were going to?

 

 

 

[RustyRightPeg]

4 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

What position does he play??

Why’s that relevant?

[Pingu]

He's our fourth best centre mid after Beni, Boateng and Nieuwenhof. If we could just keep them all fit, he's good enough as backup to the other three.

[jack D and coke]

1 minute ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Why’s that relevant?

 not getting arsey man we all have opinions. Devlin is a divisive player. 
It’s Hearts we support not Liverpool or Barcelona. People get above themselves imo in their expectations imo. 
I think we need him. 
Maybe you don’t. 

[Chimp]

17 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Absolutely not. His game is last ditch interceptions and tackles. 
Sometimes it’ll get him or us into a bit trouble but you have to accept it. 
IMO anyway. 
Who else chases and harasses? 
No *****. 

So not :

 

Vargas?

Boateng?

Penrice?

Spittal?

 

the list could go on. To pretend nobody else does that except Devlin is laughable but it’s obvious you’ve only made that up to suit your defence of him.

Edited October 27, 2024 by Chimp

[Valois No1]

The wee man has the heart of a lion and the ability of a brick. I like him just for him being him but he’s not at the standard needed. 

[jack D and coke]

Just now, Chimp said:

So not :

 

Vargas?

Boateng?

Penrice?

Spittal?

 

the list could go on. To pretend nobody else does that except Devlin is laughable but it’s obvious you’ve only made that up to suit your defence of him.

Well only Spittal plays in midfield so imo that’s where pressing is most advantageous. 
Im not trying to make you agree with me man it’s just my opinion is all. 

[jr ewing]

He's a trier. 

[Dana Scully]

9 minutes ago, spacerjoe said:

Like we did on Thursday you mean? Against a better side? With Devlin playing?

 

You said it took Hibs 15 mins to figure us out. Why did we not blow them away before then? Or even look like we were going to?

 

 

 

Because the weak link in our midfield let us down. 
 

Thursday was a completely different match where we set up differently. We played Spittal in a free role in the 10.

[Dennis Law]

Is he a liability? Is he a football player?

One of the most over rated players in recent years at Tynecastle. Lacks any quality the preverbial headless chicken. The reason we are where we are in the league, one along with 3/4 others who shouldn’t be anywhere near the first team. Hopefully the new manager finds him out sooner than later. 

[Chimp]

3 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Well only Spittal plays in midfield so imo that’s where pressing is most advantageous. 
Im not trying to make you agree with me man it’s just my opinion is all. 

Point is though you said nobody else chases and harrasses, which just isn’t true

[Dana Scully]

4 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Well only Spittal plays in midfield so imo that’s where pressing is most advantageous. 
Im not trying to make you agree with me man it’s just my opinion is all. 

Where does Boateng play? 🤔

[jack D and coke]

It’s hard to keep up with hearts fans. 
Everybody is shite in this forum. 

[J.T.F.Robertson]

24 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Absolutely not. His game is last ditch interceptions and tackles. 
Sometimes it’ll get him or us into a bit trouble but you have to accept it. 
IMO anyway. 
Who else chases and harasses? 
No *****. 

 

I concur.

 

[jack D and coke]

1 minute ago, Dana Scully said:

Where does Boateng play? 🤔

Ok I’m pished I’ve been at it since 8am  

[FERRY HEARTS]

23 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

Absolutely not. His game is last ditch interceptions and tackles. 
Sometimes it’ll get him or us into a bit trouble but you have to accept it. 
IMO anyway. 
Who else chases and harasses? 
No *****. 

Spot on ! I’m gonna say Dev is more reliable stopper than Beni and Boateng is a better player than both of them. IMO 

[jack D and coke]

2 minutes ago, Chimp said:

Point is though you said nobody else chases and harrasses, which just isn’t true

His game is chasing and harassing. 
It’s an on edge type of game. 
He’ll either do it well or get himself and us into trouble. 

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

2 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

I think it’s fair to point out his deficiencies and how it’s harming the overall team. He continually killed momentum today and he will continue to do so as he just doesn’t have what our other midfielders have.

 

I love the guy, his energy and passion. And he has his uses but we need more. He’s getting left behind.

Which is absolutely fine when everyone is available and the schedule is not so packed, we need everyone 

[jack D and coke]

Just now, FERRY HEARTS said:

Spot on ! I’m gonna say Dev is more reliable stopper than Beni and Boateng is a better player than both of them. IMO 

They’re absolutely better players. 
But different players. 

[Chimp]

Just now, jack D and coke said:

His game is chasing and harassing. 
It’s an on edge type of game. 
He’ll either do it well or get himself and us into trouble. 

yeah and other players in the side do that meaning the point you made is wrong.

[jack D and coke]

1 minute ago, Chimp said:

yeah and other players in the side do that meaning the point you made is wrong.

Ok mate…

[RustyRightPeg]

15 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

 not getting arsey man we all have opinions. Devlin is a divisive player. 
It’s Hearts we support not Liverpool or Barcelona. People get above themselves imo in their expectations imo. 
I think we need him. 
Maybe you don’t. 

I just didn’t understand your point.

 

Shankland chases and harasses centre halves, Rowles chases and harasses strikers. I could keep going.
 

Devlin, for us isn’t good enough. In a team that wants to dominate the ball, in a 442, you need two competent midfielders.

Edited October 27, 2024 by RustyRightPeg

[ScandinavianJambo]

44 minutes ago, gordiegords said:

Would like to see grant, boyce and poss mackay moved on if possible, we desperately need some pace and also physicality into this team,

 

30 minutes ago, Morgan said:

Yes, in your opinion.

 

Please however bear in mind that this is a Hearts forum for Hearts fans to discuss, and offer opinions on, Hearts players and all other related matters concerning the club.

 

If you don’t like the thread title and/or it’s content, please, feel free to just skip by it.

 

 

What I don't like is fans getting the big guns out and decide that one players is useless after applauding them the week prior. But feel free to continue. 

[jack D and coke]

Just now, RustyRightPeg said:

I just didn’t understand your point.

 

Shankland chases and harasses centre halves, Rowles chases and harasses strikers. 
 

Devlin, for us isn’t good enough. In a team that wants to dominate the ball, in a 442, you need two competent midfielders.

I’m not saying other players don’t harass and chase but (IMO) Devlin makes much more interceptions and tackles than pretty much anyone else in the side. 
He can also get himself and us into a bit of trouble when it’s mistimed. I think its worth the risk and you don’t. 
Fair enough you don’t have to agree with me bud. We all see games and stuff differently. 

[ScandinavianJambo]

1 hour ago, briever said:

 

Give it a rest - managers pick out players that need confidence boosts - their words dont always match reality.

 

Devlin isn't good enough - handy player on the bench if you want to close out a game by passing the ball backwards - but nowhere near the standard we need.

 

 

So managers words do not match reality but fans do? You got to be kidding me. 

 

 

[spacerjoe]

Just now, Dana Scully said:

Because the weak link in our midfield let us down. 
 

Thursday was a completely different match where we set up differently. We played Spittal in a free role in the 10.

So now it's Devlin's fault we were setup differently?

 

So far he's taken the flack for our poor defending, our lack of creativity and now our team selection!

 

Going back to the OP, Devlin is sometimes rash, but not a liability.

 

He gave away a foul in a stupid position today that we (Boateng and Gordon) failed to defend. Many of our players do these sort of things every week. He put us in a position where we unnecessarily had to defend a set piece, but we should be much more worried about our complete inability to defend any set piece today.

 

He's a limited player compared to Hoff and Beni, but performs well in roles that suit his attributes, as proven in many big games.and big results.

 

As for the rest of this thread, I'm done.

[Dana Scully]

19 minutes ago, spacerjoe said:

So now it's Devlin's fault we were setup differently?

 

Who said that? 😄

[feedthefox]

45 minutes ago, Chimp said:

“Wee Devlin” isn’t good enough. Don’t give a monkeys what any of his loyal admirers say because of his tenacity and work rate. Safe backwards and sidewards passes are his speciality. Also a guaranteed booking for a mistimed lunge which then makes him completely ineffective. Cost the goal today. Meanwhile you have his midfield partner Boateng who’s 4 years younger showing him up something silly. He’s one of the only players at the club I’ve seen who have gone backwards as time has gone on. I’d love someone to tell me how he’s improved since he first arrived.

 

He's no better than the day he arrived. He was a bit of a novelty when he first arrived but that's worn off and we surely can do better with what is a pretty important position.

[Hans Eskilsson]

Whilst he’s not as talented with the ball as some of our other midfielders, I think you need somebody who’s going to clock up the yards and not giving the opposition a chance to settle. 
 

Folk don’t half exaggerate on here. He’s had a place under 4 managers now in the starting 11. 

[Dana Scully]

2 minutes ago, Hans Eskilsson said:

Whilst he’s not as talented with the ball as some of our other midfielders, I think you need somebody who’s going to clock up the yards and not giving the opposition a chance to settle. 
 

Folk don’t half exaggerate on here. He’s had a place under 4 managers now in the starting 11. 

He’s benefitted greatly from long term injuries to Beni, Hoff and Haring.

[merseyjambo]

I’m not a Devlin fan but I can see some of the positives he has. He does have some good attributes and you could see from Thursday when you are looking to press from the outset, he was decent.

 

For me though, his negatives outweigh the positives especially in games like today. Too often he dives in and gives away silly fouls. Their best chance in the first half came from a stupid, needless foul given away by him and again what happened at the goal. Boyle was going nowhere and you could see what was going to happen (although Boyle needs no excuse to hit the deck). When you watch I’m in games like today, his performance was amateur. 
 

Their best chance giving of a contract extension was yet another poor decision by the club especially on the run we were on and Naismith being under pressure. All it has done means that we are stuck with his wage until Summer 26. He’s not going to get any better. He’s a limited ability player.

[fila]

Do mind him as a squad player , however was one of the reasons we didn’t drive forward enough yesterday from midfield constantly looking for a passive move for the ball sideways or back.

[Sasha Shulgin]

Thought he was poor today. Silly foul to give away for the free kick that led to the goal. Yes we have to defend it, but had he jockeyed Boyle there was nothing to defend.

 

Beni plays today instead of Cam and we stand a better chance of winning the game.

 

CD has a place in the squad. Some games, when we’re the dominant team, we need better however.

[Chimp]

38 minutes ago, feedthefox said:

 

He's no better than the day he arrived. He was a bit of a novelty when he first arrived but that's worn off and we surely can do better with what is a pretty important position.

100%

[Nelly Terraces]

Championship level player at best. Has no discernable football skill whatsoever & runs about like a brainless wee idiot giving away needless fouls & picking up bookings.

 

The ultimate 'Little Man Syndrome' player. Just awful.

[Hans Eskilsson]

29 minutes ago, Dana Scully said:

He’s benefitted greatly from long term injuries to Beni, Hoff and Haring.

Different player. 
 

He does offer something different to those two. He certainly is more tenacious than all 3 that’s for sure. 
 

I’m not a huge Devlin fan by any means but at this moment in time he has a place in the squad and is the type of player to provide that fight. 

[Captain Scarlett]

Wouldn’t care if he joined Boyce Grant Mckay Forrest Rowles on the January bus outa here.

[Jamhammer]

Didn’t realise till Sportscene but he also gave the foul away that Gayle should’ve scored from first half

Not good enough

Committed but extremely limited 

 

 

[One five]

7 hours ago, Morgan said:

Is he a liability?

 

Too rash?

 

Too hot-headed?

 

For me, yes.

Can see where you are coming from my friend , the things is with him is he cannot think !  and that in itself is a dangerous player to have in games where we are on the back foot .

Some games  he can do job tho , squad player imo nothing more , great attitude 100 % for the jersey unlike some 🤷‍♂️

[Ron Burgundy]

Probably one of the least intelligent football players in the league. Plenty energy. Zero brain power.