Wee Devlin..

[Jamhammer]

Didn’t realise till Sportscene but he also gave the foul away that Gayle should’ve scored from first half

Not good enough

Committed but extremely limited 

 

 

[One five]

7 hours ago, Morgan said:

Is he a liability?

 

Too rash?

 

Too hot-headed?

 

For me, yes.

Can see where you are coming from my friend , the things is with him is he cannot think !  and that in itself is a dangerous player to have in games where we are on the back foot .

Some games  he can do job tho , squad player imo nothing more , great attitude 100 % for the jersey unlike some 🤷‍♂️

[Ron Burgundy]

Probably one of the least intelligent football players in the league. Plenty energy. Zero brain power. 

[i8hibsh]

Shouted and screamed on here for pretty much his entire time here, he is the most brain dead player I have ever seen.  The little ability he has (and he does have some) is negated by his stupidity. I have never seen a more stupid player in my life 

 

Those who have shot me down for this in the past must know I am right.  He is 5% ability, 45% yellow card and 50% huff and puff.  His goal contribution rate is sbout a 10th of his foul rate.

 

Surely our new management team will clock this? He simply has to go.

 

 

[RENE]

3 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

Shouted and screamed on here for pretty much his entire time here, he is the most brain dead player I have ever seen.  The little ability he has (and he does have some) is negated by his stupidity. I have never seen a more stupid player in my life 

 

Those who have shot me down for this in the past must know I am right.  He is 5% ability, 45% yellow card and 50% huff and puff.  His goal contribution rate is sbout a 10th of his foul rate.

 

Surely our new management team will clock this? He simply has to go.

 

 

Yet NC thought he had a great game on Thursday...

[One five]

5 minutes ago, i8hibsh said:

Shouted and screamed on here for pretty much his entire time here, he is the most brain dead player I have ever seen.  The little ability he has (and he does have some) is negated by his stupidity. I have never seen a more stupid player in my life 

 

Those who have shot me down for this in the past must know I am right.  He is 5% ability, 45% yellow card and 50% huff and puff.  His goal contribution rate is sbout a 10th of his foul rate.

 

Surely our new management team will clock this? He simply has to go.

 

 

Can’t disagree with his ability but ………….. he ain’t the worst player on our books .he puts in 100% unlike some other players ….. he does what he is capable of - and other players  don’t. Not really hard to see .

[Ron Burgundy]

Primary school kids know what “goal side “ means. 
I genuinely like him as a person and his energy is fantastic but he’s as thick as shit in the neck of a bottle when it comes to football. He’s actually a liability now and has to go when a suitable replacement is found. 

[Watt-Zeefuik]

Judging him solely on today is absolute foolishness. This was the wrong game for him, full stop. If Beni had been healthy, Dev would have stayed on the bench, as he should have.

 

He was outstanding against Omonia and ineffective today. To only focus on today is to have an agenda out against him.

[gregzy2k7]

I like him but he needs to stop getting caught up in his emotions at times, the foul on Boyle felt personal as they are both team mates for Australia and he was clearly trying to get one over him, it then led to them getting their set peice in a dangerous area of the park.

 

Needs to screw the nut and not get caught up at times, off the ball he is a valuable player when focused imo.

[jimbojambo]

I like Cammy and thought he had a really good game on Thursday but was poor yesterday. I hope that he is not going to be the new target for the boo boys as Critchley will no doubt be spending time developing him on the training pitch. His pace, tackling and enthusiasm are his strength and weakness so happy to leave that one to the professionals. 

[Dana Scully]

8 hours ago, Captain Scarlett said:

Wouldn’t care if he joined Boyce Grant Mckay Forrest Rowles on the January bus outa here.

[Dazo]

Injuries and our schedule is the reason for game time at the moment. I’m not his biggest fan but for high energy press he can bring something to the team. His constant coming short and passing it back to the same player is very frustrating to watch. Utterly pointless football, get the stats up though. He is worthy of his place in the squad but when everyone is fit I’d imagine he will struggle for game time. 

[davemclaren]

25 minutes ago, Dana Scully said:

Opinions eh... 😎

[damo]

17 hours ago, Captain Sausage said:

Really missed Beni today. Devlin isn’t suited to that sort of game where we dominate possession against a low block. 

100%

[Bungalow Bill]

We have the following ahead of him:

Beni

Boatang

Hoff (when fit)

 

So Devlin is really 3rd choice in a midfield pairing when everyone is fit. He’s not improved but he’s not a bad backup for the backup. 

[Sherbet]

1 minute ago, Bungalow Bill said:

We have the following ahead of him:

Beni

Boatang

Hoff (when fit)

 

So Devlin is really 3rd choice in a midfield pairing when everyone is fit. He’s not improved but he’s not a bad backup for the backup. 

agree i like him and his attitude, but he has to try and curb his enthusiasm. twice yesterday he gave away needless freekicks.  they scored from one and nearly from the other.

[77Mackay77]

Good player, better than many people give him credit for. His style of play lends itself to lazy or sloppy analysis of his game.
Just a quick glance and some stats shows he is one of our most accurate passers (yes he is not the man for 40 yard diagonal balls but he keeps it simple and what he does he does well), since he joined bar one season he has made more interceptions per season than any other midfielder and is consistently one of our most fouled players (last 3 seasons 1st, 1st, 3rd). After his first season his foul and yellow card counts have not once been the highest in the squad. Actually when you look at the stats  Shankland and Vargas give away too many fouls. 

[TexasAndy]

Devlin's energy is second to none in Hearts squad.  He's not the greatest player ever but he defo has many more good games than bad.  The problem is he is a risk in games like the Derby.  

[Macros]

3 minutes ago, 77Mackay77 said:

Good player, better than many people give him credit for. His style of play lends itself to lazy or sloppy analysis of his game.
Just a quick glance and some stats shows he is one of our most accurate passers (yes he is not the man for 40 yard diagonal balls but he keeps it simple and what he does he does well), since he joined bar one season he has made more interceptions per season than any other midfielder and is consistently one of our most fouled players (last 3 seasons 1st, 1st, 3rd). After his first season his foul and yellow card counts have not once been the highest in the squad. Actually when you look at the stats  Shankland and Vargas give away too many fouls. 

This sort of sensible, accurate post will get you nowhere on here. I agree that Cammy could and should improve elements of his game but I will always back him. He gives everything he's got, has scored and created important goals for us, he may not be first choice if everyone is fit but I wouldn't want him to leave. 

[Chimp]

1 minute ago, Macros said:

This sort of sensible, accurate post will get you nowhere on here. I agree that Cammy could and should improve elements of his game but I will always back him. He gives everything he's got, has scored and created important goals for us, he may not be first choice if everyone is fit but I wouldn't want him to leave. 

 

Yet he doesn't so why do you continue to back him? Another one who'll ignore his lack of ability because he "gives everything he's got".

[Carter]

The position he found himself in where he ended up conceding a foul on the edge of our box in the first half was something you'd struggle to observe in schoolboy football. 

[briever]

13 hours ago, ScandinavianJambo said:

So managers words do not match reality but fans do? You got to be kidding me. 

 

 

 

I didn't say that.

[Ex member of the SaS]

Not read every post but did anyone mention when he was booked Boyle had a hand full of his shirt inches away from the linesman? What is the point of having them if they won't uphold the rules.

[OTT]

He's an extremely limited player and it would appear he has got pretty bad game intelligence too. Those fouls he gave away were all huge chances and extremely disruptive for us. 

 

Appreciate it comes with defending and you're not going to dominate games for 90 minutes, but Hibs were shite and he gifted them their best chances through bad decision making. 

 

When Beni & Hoff are fit, Devlin will struggle for minutes. 

 

Although, given how much they struggle with fitness, I suspect we'll still see him more than his ability should allow. 

 

Need to see about trying to push Tait on. 

[InternationalJambo]

Would try to move him on in January and get any sort of fee for him. Not good enough for where we want to be. 

[Gundermann]

12 hours ago, Jamhammer said:

Didn’t realise till Sportscene but he also gave the foul away that Gayle should’ve scored from first half

Not good enough

Committed but extremely limited 

 

 

 

Yeah, when he gave away the free-kick for their goal, I thought 'not again ffs, does he ever learn?'.

 

He's Wee Devlin alright. Wee in all the wrong ways.

[RDSK]

Absolutely love wee Cammy. Some poor decisions but wasn’t nearly as bad yesterday as this thread suggests. 

[Captain Lithuania]

9 hours ago, gregzy2k7 said:

I like him but he needs to stop getting caught up in his emotions at times, the foul on Boyle felt personal as they are both team mates for Australia and he was clearly trying to get one over him, it then led to them getting their set peice in a dangerous area of the park.

 

Needs to screw the nut and not get caught up at times, off the ball he is a valuable player when focused imo.

Boyle lifted his foot first and then Devlin lost the head. I want him to be successful but he’s not improved one bit since joining us. Like others have said, passes backwards and sideways don’t make him some kind of maestro. A big part of our poor performances under Neilson and Naismith is due to Devlin being unable to move the ball from midfield to attack, he will pick it up from Rowles or Kent and then pass it back, then he’ll move forward and hide in the opposition midfield. 
 

He’s yesterday’s man. 

[JimmyCant]

13 hours ago, Captain Scarlett said:

Wouldn’t care if he joined Boyce Grant Mckay Forrest Rowles on the January bus outa here.

There is no January bus and no one leaving unless we sell them or pay them up. None of the above are going upwards so they’ll all see their contract out

[Hearts of Vladland]

23 minutes ago, Captain Lithuania said:

Boyle lifted his foot first and then Devlin lost the head. I want him to be successful but he’s not improved one bit since joining us. Like others have said, passes backwards and sideways don’t make him some kind of maestro. A big part of our poor performances under Neilson and Naismith is due to Devlin being unable to move the ball from midfield to attack, he will pick it up from Rowles or Kent and then pass it back, then he’ll move forward and hide in the opposition midfield. 
 

He’s yesterday’s man. 

Devlin see the ball under Boyles raised leg then put his foot in and wins it. It’s never a foul, Boyle has Devlins shirt the full time.

 

https://x.com/gorgieopinion/status/1850671978497151136?s=46&t=Kl5ER_fe34NXd7qu7rU5qQ

Edited October 28, 2024 by Hearts of Vladland

[Dana Scully]

20 minutes ago, JimmyCant said:

There is no January bus and no one leaving unless we sell them or pay them up. None of the above are going upwards so they’ll all see their contract out

Rowles included? 😳

[Pasquale for King]

48 minutes ago, Captain Lithuania said:

Boyle lifted his foot first and then Devlin lost the head. I want him to be successful but he’s not improved one bit since joining us. Like others have said, passes backwards and sideways don’t make him some kind of maestro. A big part of our poor performances under Neilson and Naismith is due to Devlin being unable to move the ball from midfield to attack, he will pick it up from Rowles or Kent and then pass it back, then he’ll move forward and hide in the opposition midfield. 
 

He’s yesterday’s man. 

Spot on, i think he will be moved on in the summer.

[RustyRightPeg]

32 minutes ago, Hearts of Vladland said:

Devlin see the ball under Boyles raised leg then put his foot in and wins it. It’s never a foul, Boyle has Devlins shirt the full time.

 

https://x.com/gorgieopinion/status/1850671978497151136?s=46&t=Kl5ER_fe34NXd7qu7rU5qQ

He still gives the referee the decision to make unnecessarily. If that was Kent or Rowles holding the ball in the corner and the striker so much as touches their back, they go down and a free kicks given. 
 

Boyle spins him because of his naivety, and the legs tangle. It’s just daft. 

[jamboozy]

Boyle is a cheating little scrote who is a perfect fit for that scum football club. However, wee Cammy needs to use his brain a bit more and not play solely with his heart.

[upgotheheads]

1 hour ago, RDSK said:

Absolutely love wee Cammy. Some poor decisions but wasn’t nearly as bad yesterday as this thread suggests. 

He usually gets an early ahn early red and is walking a tightrope from then on, meaning he's not as effective as he should be. 

1 hour ago, Hearts of Vladland said:

Devlin see the ball under Boyles raised leg then put his foot in and wins it. It’s never a foul, Boyle has Devlins shirt the full time.

 

https://x.com/gorgieopinion/status/1850671978497151136?s=46&t=Kl5ER_fe34NXd7qu7rU5qQ

 

A foul every day of he week.

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

Interesting Forrest still getting it tight too, like Devlin, he  isn't a first pick weekly, but has shown in the last week why he still remains useful in the squad, particularly when we play twice a week.

 

NBA teams that are successful are those that can limit damage when resting their top performers and get good value from their bench. They may even leave a top performer out of the starting 5 to cover the gap whilst the star players rest.

 

Cant imagine we will change everything in one or even two windows, chucking the baby out with the bath water has never been my thing.

 

Cliche, it is a squad game, you cant always have your best 11 on for 90 minutes, its how you fit your perceived weaker links in, with the least damage.

[Hearts of Vladland]

4 minutes ago, upgotheheads said:

He usually gets an early ahn early red and is walking a tightrope from then on, meaning he's not as effective as he should be. 

 

A foul every day of he week.

It shouldn’t be though, it’s two players that are both pulling each other, Boyle then attempts to hook Devlins leg but fails then he breaks free and chucks himself to the ground. Boyle looks up sees nothing is on and goes full Tom Daley.

[Sinbad the Sailor]

13 hours ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

Judging him solely on today is absolute foolishness. This was the wrong game for him, full stop. If Beni had been healthy, Dev would have stayed on the bench, as he should have.

 

He was outstanding against Omonia and ineffective today. To only focus on today is to have an agenda out against him.

This is the correct answer.  Who needs analytics 👍

[Watt-Zeefuik]

1 minute ago, Hearts of Vladland said:

It shouldn’t be though, it’s two players that are both pulling each other, Boyle then attempts to hook Devlins leg but fails then he breaks free and chucks himself to the ground. Boyle looks up sees nothing is on and goes full Tom Daley.

 

To me it looks like Boyle hooks Devlin's leg, pulls it underneath him, then dives. I know it's shocking to suggest that Boyle dove to create a chance but that's just what I see.

 

6 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Interesting Forrest still getting it tight too, like Devlin, he  isn't a first pick weekly, but has shown in the last week why he still remains useful in the squad, particularly when we play twice a week.

 

NBA teams that are successful are those that can limit damage when resting their top performers and get good value from their bench. They may even leave a top performer out of the starting 5 to cover the gap whilst the star players rest.

 

Cant imagine we will change everything in one or even two windows, chucking the baby out with the bath water has never been my thing.

 

Cliche, it is a squad game, you cant always have your best 11 on for 90 minutes, its how you fit your perceived weaker links in, with the least damage.

 

Right. If we don't have Devlin out there today, who did folk want in that position? Grant? Spittal playing as a holding mid like Naismith did? A big money signing who's going to sit fourth on the depth chart behind Boateng, Nieuwenhoff, and Baningime?

 

(speaking of the NBA, need to go bump the Basketball thread in the shed. I'm primed and ready for another year of "if the Hornets can just keep their starting 5 healthy . . . . oh nevermind.")

[Ally]

27 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Cliche, it is a squad game, you cant always have your best 11 on for 90 minutes, its how you fit your perceived weaker links in, with the least damage.

Exactly. I like Devlin. He's not the right horse for every course, but he has a role to play in our squad.

[Carter]

2 hours ago, Captain Lithuania said:

Boyle lifted his foot first and then Devlin lost the head. I want him to be successful but he’s not improved one bit since joining us. Like others have said, passes backwards and sideways don’t make him some kind of maestro. A big part of our poor performances under Neilson and Naismith is due to Devlin being unable to move the ball from midfield to attack, he will pick it up from Rowles or Kent and then pass it back, then he’ll move forward and hide in the opposition midfield. 
 

He’s yesterday’s man. 

He's also a nasty wee *****. There was malice in his challenge on Kent. 

[Dazo]

2 hours ago, Hearts of Vladland said:

Devlin see the ball under Boyles raised leg then put his foot in and wins it. It’s never a foul, Boyle has Devlins shirt the full time.

 

https://x.com/gorgieopinion/status/1850671978497151136?s=46&t=Kl5ER_fe34NXd7qu7rU5qQ

That was a foul, it isn’t even debatable to be honest. The wig does dive too though. 

[Dana Scully]

14 hours ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

Judging him solely on today is absolute foolishness. This was the wrong game for him, full stop.

If a derby at Easter Road is the wrong game for him then he shouldn’t be playing at Hearts. Full stop.

[JimmyCant]

2 hours ago, Dana Scully said:

Rowles included? 😳

I’d say he’s found his level with us.Just

[stirlo]

3 hours ago, RDSK said:

Absolutely love wee Cammy. Some poor decisions but wasn’t nearly as bad yesterday as this thread suggests. 

 

The thing is you can debate his all round play, but the foul that he concedes that leads up to the goal is just dreadful decision making  - and that's the case whether you're a professional footballer or an amateur. He concedes these completely unnecessary fouls again and again. Can we really afford to have a player in the team that keeps doing that sort of thing?

[Dana Scully]

1 hour ago, JimmyCant said:

I’d say he’s found his level with us.Just

Not sure whether he’ll go on to a higher level or not but he has value and is a sellable asset, especially on current form.

[JimmyCant]

1 minute ago, Dana Scully said:

Not sure whether he’ll go on to a higher level or not but he has value and is a sellable asset, especially on current form.

He can’t be both things. If he’s at his highest level, he’s not a sellable asset

[Morgan]

12 minutes ago, Dana Scully said:

Not sure whether he’ll go on to a higher level or not but he has value and is a sellable asset, especially on current form.

Is that not contradictory?

[Watt-Zeefuik]

2 hours ago, Dana Scully said:

If a derby at Easter Road is the wrong game for him then he shouldn’t be playing at Hearts. Full stop.

 

Aye, because it's shite that he was terrific for us as we garnered a six figure payout on Thursday.

 

Some people, I swear.

[Vlad Magic]

I suspect Critchley will be making young Devlin a special project. The potential is there in abundance. The ingredients ready to make a sumptuous meal. It’s just not ready yet.

 

I guarantee Critchley is licking his lips at the prospect of turning Devlin into the player he should be.

 

Watch this space.