*** official Heart Of Midlothian v The Hobos ***

[N Lincs Jambo]

Obviously disappointed not to have won. For me we never attempted to impose the high press on Hibs like we did against St Mirren and Nicosia. That played into their hands. The question has to be though whether the players are fit enough to play that sort of game three times in a week? The Hibs defence definitely had a far easier time of it than either St Mirren or Nicosia.

 

On the plus side Shanks never gave up and he's more hopelessly out of luck than out of form. That will change and when he does start hitting the target again, some team is going to pay. Just very disappointed it wasn't today.

[grumpyespana]

Think our Barry is needing to hang up his boots he gives us nothing when he comes on.

[martoon]

3 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said:

 

And Robbo was spot on about the end of derbies......

 

 

 

 

John looking very fit and well. 👍 

[Victorian]

From BBC..

 

Neil Critchley produced a chest-thumping display at full-time as his side rescued a draw meaning he is still, technically, unbeaten as Hearts head coach.

 

[Hømme]

1 minute ago, Victorian said:

From BBC..

 

Neil Critchley produced a chest-thumping display at full-time as his side rescued a draw meaning he is still, technically, unbeaten as Hearts head coach.

 

 

"Technically"

 

[Mr Kipling]

5 minutes ago, N Lincs Jambo said:

Obviously disappointed not to have won. For me we never attempted to impose the high press on Hibs like we did against St Mirren and Nicosia. That played into their hands. The question has to be though whether the players are fit enough to play that sort of game three times in a week? The Hibs defence definitely had a far easier time of it than either St Mirren or Nicosia.

 

On the plus side Shanks never gave up and he's more hopelessly out of luck than out of form. That will change and when he does start hitting the target again, some team is going to pay. Just very disappointed it wasn't today.

I agree about the fitness aspect. That's my concern too. The players looked absolutely shattered after the first half of the Nicosia game. While I'm disappointed about the result today, a real positive is managing to grind out a result. Onwards and upwards to midweek. 

[ToadKiller Dog]

1 minute ago, Hømme said:

 

"Technically"

 

Alternative facts 

[GBJambo]

8 minutes ago, N Lincs Jambo said:

Obviously disappointed not to have won. For me we never attempted to impose the high press on Hibs like we did against St Mirren and Nicosia. That played into their hands. The question has to be though whether the players are fit enough to play that sort of game three times in a week? The Hibs defence definitely had a far easier time of it than either St Mirren or Nicosia.

 

On the plus side Shanks never gave up and he's more hopelessly out of luck than out of form. That will change and when he does start hitting the target again, some team is going to pay. Just very disappointed it wasn't today.

We tried . Fatigue from 3 games in week and Thursday night stopped us 

[DG_HMFC]

4 minutes ago, Victorian said:

From BBC..

 

Neil Critchley produced a chest-thumping display at full-time as his side rescued a draw meaning he is still, technically, unbeaten as Hearts head coach.

 

 

****in idiots.

[Turkishcap]

We aint going to hit the heights every game.

We know how well can play but today was way down but hey, tired after Thursday, did not get beat.

Frustration for them again.

Win on Wednesday take it one gsme at a time.

Got a sub par game out of our system.

The future is bright.

Ps whos bottom?

Edited October 27, 2024 by Turkishcap

[LuxJambo]

I don't thing anyone has picked up on this yet:

 

So Hibs 1 vs Hearts 1

An ok result in a derby.

But here is the interesting bit:

Hearts brought 20 players in their match squad. 11 of these are Scots.

Hibs? Out of 20 players in the match squad, only ONE is a Scot and he did not even enter the field. Talk about community club and local connections.

 

Does it matter in these times and days?

 

What do people think? Is it important that Hearts keep a core of Scots?

Edited October 27, 2024 by LuxJambo

[cjay99]

Sadly Cammy isn't consistent enough. I recognise that his job is to break up the play and win tackles but so often he's a liability - picking up silly yellows which prevent him from doing his job and giving away daft free kicks in dangerous areas.

[michael_bolton]

You've got to take today in the context of the week. The terrible run at the start of the season is done and we're going in the right direction.

 

One defeat in five (would be five unbeaten if not for Grant's red card, two wins in Europe, and this week that's two good wins and what is a decent point away from home following a Thursday game.

 

Not the best performance by any stretch, but I think we had the better shape of the two teams and on the basis of the last few weeks I'm pretty sure we'll be top six before too long.

 

Big game on Wednesday.

Edited October 27, 2024 by michael_bolton

[Morgan]

1 hour ago, Tazio said:

Whatever the question is the answer isn’t Wilson. I’ve not seen enough from him so far to think he’s the player to change a derby. 

 

 

44 minutes ago, Tazio said:

Doubly sweet of we did as I got Hearts at 18/1 when we were behind 😁

 

All's well that ends well (sort of),Taz. 👍❤️

[buzzbomb1958]

What everyone needs to remember The Critch has been in charge for a fortnight and we are unbeaten, new training regimes are being tested and plays brought in , players having to get fitter because he’s introduced a high press this will take time to fulfill, he will also know personnel changes will have to be made in January so overall got to be happy and patient, I for one am optimistic for the future 

[Luckies1874]

Just now, cjay99 said:

Sadly Cammy isn't consistent enough. I recognise that his job is to break up the play and win tackles but so often he's a liability - picking up silly yellows which prevent him from doing his job and giving away daft free kicks in dangerous areas.

 

He won't be starting very often when Beni and Hoff are available and that's before any further changes coming in January. Boateng is a certain first choice now too. He was effective on Thursday and we've generally seen his best performances in Europe. Today his lack of composure and quality on the ball coupled with poor performances from Shankland, Dhanda and Vargas saw us fail to take advantage of the very dominant first half hour. He's simply not good enough for where we want to be. 

[Malinga the Swinga]

Credit to Forrest for winning flick on at throw in that led to equaliser. He's not the biggest, not the most skillful but he was determined to get to ball and it paid off big time.

Well worth his place in squad

[bloomtime]

Pretty meh 65 percent possession only 2 on target gave them too much respect at times you knew they would play hoofball but i ll take that 3 games in 8 days we looked tired and young james looks a future star plus kept them bottom and only 1 defeat in 14 in derbies or something like that cd have been worse. 

[indianajones]

2 minutes ago, cjay99 said:

Sadly Cammy isn't consistent enough. I recognise that his job is to break up the play and win tackles but so often he's a liability - picking up silly yellows which prevent him from doing his job and giving away daft free kicks in dangerous areas.

 

He looks fantastic in Europe when he has the time. When its fast and frantic he almost always passes backwards and/or loses possession. 

 

Not exactly the best trait to have as a center mid. 

He doesn't play when both Beni and Boateng are fit anyway.

[Shanks said no]

One of our own

[Gizmo]

12 minutes ago, grumpyespana said:

Think our Barry is needing to hang up his boots he gives us nothing when he comes on.

Did you see his pass that got Hibs in serious bother and led to us dominating the last part of the game? 

Everyone gets a clean sheet under a new manager, but if you won't see it then what chance does he have. 

Edited October 27, 2024 by Gizmo

[Luckies1874]

1 minute ago, buzzbomb1958 said:

What everyone needs to remember The Critch has been in charge for a fortnight and we are unbeaten, new training regimes are being tested and plays brought in , players having to get fitter because he’s introduced a high press this will take time to fulfill, he will also know personnel changes will have to be made in January so overall got to be happy and patient, I for one am optimistic for the future 

 

Spot on. If asked 8 days ago whether 2 wins and a draw would have been seen as a good start I certainly would have taken that. Yes, would have been great to win the derby but we'll pump this shower on Boxing Day and we showed character (again) to come back. Critch subs made a huge difference and I like how he wanted to just go for it at the end. He's learning who is who and what is what and will know we need more quality but for now needs to make do. Great chance now to kick on with 2 wins this week. 6pts from Killie and St Johnstone should be the expectation. 

[JamboGee92]

I was worried about our fitness levels going in to this game, looks like I was right. The intensity and press wasn't there. 

[ScandinavianJambo]

Just now, Gizmo said:

Did you see his pass that got Hibs in serious bother and led to us dominating the last of the game? 

Everyone gets a clean sheet under a new manager, but if you won't see it then what chance does he have. 

Barry did really well coming on dictating down the flank. If folk can't see that they are willfully blind.

[Cruyff]

I thought we were tough and never gave up and we got the point in the end which was a fair result imo. 

[Malinga the Swinga]

5 minutes ago, LuxJambo said:

I don't thing anyone has picked up on this yet:

 

So Hibs 1 vs Hearts 1

An ok result in a derby.

But here is the interesting bit:

Hearts brought 20 players in their match squad. 11 of these are Scots.

Hibs? Out of 20 players in the match squad, only ONE is a Scot and he did not even enter the field. Talk about community club and local connections.

 

Does it matter in these times and days?

 

What do people think? Is it important that Hearts keep a core of Scots?

In one way, it doesn't matter at all as the colour of jersey overrules nationality.

On the other hand, Scottish players understand derby and its even better if these Scottish players come through academy.

[kingantti1874]

Just now, Arthur Morgan said:

I was worried about our fitness levels going in to this game, looks like I was right. The intensity and press wasn't there. 

Yea defo missing that 10%. 

[ScandinavianJambo]

1 minute ago, Arthur Morgan said:

I was worried about our fitness levels going in to this game, looks like I was right. The intensity and press wasn't there. 

Fatigue was clearly there and our midfield is toiling with Benny being off (again).

Edited October 27, 2024 by ScandinavianJambo

[Super_Hans]

24 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said:

Critch rolled the dice with his positive subs. Paid off. Another 5 minutes and we probably win. A game we should be taking 3pts but we’ll get them on Boxing Day. Couple of wins this week and it will continue a more than solid start. He’ll also be quickly realising what we need for the second half of the season. 
 

Let’s stay positive folks. 

Gave up the midfield and went for it with 20 mins left. Bold substitutions and tactics. Got us a point even though Hibs should have gone 2-0 up with that Triantis sitter.

[JAYEL]

It’s been a good Unbeaten week with lots of positives 

 

 

Onto Wednesday  

[Don Dannie]

I thought Barry McKay played well when he came on, he actually turned up. 

[briever]

9 minutes ago, LuxJambo said:

I don't thing anyone has picked up on this yet:

 

So Hibs 1 vs Hearts 1

An ok result in a derby.

But here is the interesting bit:

Hearts brought 20 players in their match squad. 11 of these are Scots.

Hibs? Out of 20 players in the match squad, only ONE is a Scot and he did not even enter the field. Talk about community club and local connections.

 

Does it matter in these times and days?

 

What do people think? Is it important that Hearts keep a core of Scots?

 

I think it's very important.

[vegas-voss]

17 minutes ago, N Lincs Jambo said:

Obviously disappointed not to have won. For me we never attempted to impose the high press on Hibs like we did against St Mirren and Nicosia. That played into their hands. The question has to be though whether the players are fit enough to play that sort of game three times in a week? The Hibs defence definitely had a far easier time of it than either St Mirren or Nicosia.

 

On the plus side Shanks never gave up and he's more hopelessly out of luck than out of form. That will change and when he does start hitting the target again, some team is going to pay. Just very disappointed it wasn't today.

To be honest it's the first time I have seen us manage it two games in a row.This is why proper pre season work is needed.

 

How many times have we seen us press the life out of Celtic then be completely lifeless the next game. Critchley is doing his stuff but it will take time to see it fully come together.

[Ked]

Hibs were there to be beat 

Take the 2 wins and a draw.

But we have to beat dross like Hibs.

Not excuses imo

[Australis]

The amount of hoofball the wee team played.

 

So many huge punts up the field to nobody.

 

The midfield was there for us to use much better and we didn't.

 

Really disappointed we didn't win that game today.

 

 

 

[cazzyy]

45 minutes ago, GorgieFifeLife said:

Critchley standing on his own in front of the away end patting the badge on his chest is not going to cut it with us.  We snatched a draw against the worst Hibs side in living memory.  It should be heads down and down the tunnel and understand that what was served up is miles away from good enough.

 

 

[GBJambo]

Finished the stronger even with playing on Thursday night. . If the game lasted another 10 minutes . We would have won that. 
Hibs were rocking 

[Gavman81]

39 minutes ago, DS98 said:

I enjoyed the first half an hour. Played some lovely stuff and bossed them. The last 60 was your typical derby pish. Take a point after the way things went. 
 

Observations from the game is we are still very poor at defending set pieces. We are even worse at giving away silly fouls. Not a good combo. 
 

I love Cammy but he’s just not improving his decision making. He gave away a stupid freekick that we got away with then the one they scored from was brain dead. 
 

We need 2 strikers in January. 1 if young Wilson keeps up his scoring.

 

Boateng is the first name in the team sheet. 
 

Lastly Hibs are unbelievably shite.

This is how I felt too.

 

Was some good football first 30 definitely- folk maybe being a wee bit harsh calling full performance utter dire.
 

Fatigue kicked in but after a monumental effort on Thurs, we still kept going, got the goal and then we were the more likely to nick it 

[sac]

5 minutes ago, Don Dan said:

I thought Barry McKay played well when he came on, he actually turned up. 

Pish. One pass, and nothing else. Launch asap

[cazzyy]

46 minutes ago, Der Kaiser said:

Im happy with a point. Obviously want the win but considering....

 

New manager still learning about his team.

3 games played in only 8 days

Undefeated in those games.

Hibs Easter Road record against us isn't eaten into.

 

Plenty to be happy with.

 

It'll be 3 in 6 days after Wednesday.

[DG_HMFC]

3 minutes ago, Australis said:

The amount of hoofball the wee team played.

 

So many huge punts up the field to nobody.

 

The midfield was there for us to use much better and we didn't.

 

Really disappointed we didn't win that game today.

 

 

 

 

I thought we started well enough, but we were leggy as **** and just couldn't get enough intensity in our play.

 

I've no doubt Critchley will have us motoring to how he wants us to play.

[jambogirlglasgow]

17 minutes ago, Mr Kipling said:

I agree about the fitness aspect. That's my concern too. The players looked absolutely shattered after the first half of the Nicosia game. While I'm disappointed about the result today, a real positive is managing to grind out a result. Onwards and upwards to midweek. 

Naismith has allowed us to be appallingly out of condition. And it shows. 

[boag1874]

5 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said:

 

And Robbo was spot on about the end of derbies......

 

 

 

He's absolutely spot on. Even just look at the last 10 years, we've had;

 

Ozturk game - we were 2nd best & trailing for 45 mins but they drop off & we equalised late out of nowhere just as they thought they were safe

Cowie game - we've been awful in the derby for about 3 years, they have the chance to go 10 unbeaten & we score a late winner

Uche game - they've not long just got a rare win at Tynie, we're well out of form, they're 1-0 up but manage to concede a late scrappy goal out of nothing, then we press to try & win

Covid Semi Final - we get to extra time at 1-1, they miss a pen, we then go score a late pen of our own & win the game
Hickey game - they're 1-0 up & playing well, drop off & lose the game late, 2 goals out of nothing

Shankland game - a garbage game & we score out of nothing

Today - we look dead on our feet, we've been mentally poor all season, they've got the control but they drop off, we press, get the control back & we score late then absolutely batter them in injury time, they're lucky to get a point in the end.

 

  It's near enough an average of once a season we do this to them & we've spent 3 seasons in different divisions in that time 

 

If we're winning late on I'm usually pretty relaxed. If they're winning by a goal or we're drawing in about the 75th minute onwards I start to feel myself sitting forward a bit because I'm just waiting on the sheer orgasmic moment we score. That's why they cheer 0-0 draws like they're wins because we've mentally traumatised them beyond repair with this. They were 1-0 up & every time it cut to them in the crowd they looked on edge because they just know it's coming.

[ScandinavianJambo]

Just now, jambogirlglasgow said:

Naismith has allowed us to be appallingly out of condition. And it shows. 

That's not the only issues he has left us with. The meakness in taking risks are still there...

[Gordons left glove]

52 minutes ago, GorgieFifeLife said:

Critchley standing on his own in front of the away end patting the badge on his chest is not going to cut it with us.  We snatched a draw against the worst Hibs side in living memory.  It should be heads down and down the tunnel and understand that what was served up is miles away from good enough.

And if theyd went straight town the tunnel I can guarantee there'd be a meltdown on here. Quiet possibly you included.

[DG_HMFC]

12 minutes ago, JAYEL said:

It’s been a good Unbeaten week with lots of positives 

 

 

Onto Wednesday  

 

Spot on. We can't lose sight of the positives.

 

 

[Absolute Scenes]

32 minutes ago, AC Mallin_51 said:

Absolutely the worst hibs team I’ve seen. Where’s the green Brazil? The second they got the ball it was HOOF. Disappointed not to win the game but 3 games into tjthe critchely era, 0 defeats, 2 wins and a late equaliser against Hibs that’ll surely dampener them even more. Win on Wednesday and this could be looked at as a decent result, we could possibly get to 8th. If Hibs continue to play like that, at home especially , they’re going down 

I wouldn’t say it’s close to the worst Hibs team I’ve seen. 2012 and 2013 would have been pumped by that Hibs team today. They still aren’t great though

[jambogirlglasgow]

4 minutes ago, ScandinavianJambo said:

That's not the only issues he has left us with. The meakness in taking risks are still there...

Agreed but even a crap coach could have had us fit. 

[south morocco]

I thought we looked a bit tired today which is understandable. Wanted the win but hey hi. 

[DG_HMFC]

4 minutes ago, jambogirlglasgow said:

Naismith has allowed us to be appallingly out of condition. And it shows. 

 

We have another international break coming up in a couple of weeks. I wonder if Neil will have the players who aren't away on international duty in working on conditioning. 

 

Or do we soldier on and get away somewhere warm during the winter break for a mini pre-season?