Jorge Grant ( merged )

[Carter]

1 hour ago, tiger Rudi said:

That's my take on it. Been doing ok deeper, so why he started ahead of Dhanda or Spittal in an advanced position is mind boggling. I mean how bad do those two look in training? 

I'm afraid Blair Spittal just isn't a Hearts player.

[pettigrewsstylist]

If anyone is giving him benefit of doubt. Go watch his reaction after his horrendous touch, which can happen, loses us the ball, just prior to County goal. Watch his tracking back, and watch Beni sprint past him to make tackle. Then consider where Grant may have been, in realtion to goalscorer and loose ball, had he applied himself in the same manner.

Beni..contract extension. Grant leaving next summer likely. 

We are in a relegation battle IMO. Grant is not going to contribute enough if he cant "get the message" about what was reqd yesterday, in the same week he watched his 2nd mgr fired and humiliated.

Fox thought he was the go to man yesterday.

Relegation battle beckons.

[Malone]

16 minutes ago, Carter said:

I'm afraid Blair Spittal just isn't a Hearts player.

Based on what?

[Smithian]

1 hour ago, tiger Rudi said:

That's my take on it. Been doing ok deeper, so why he started ahead of Dhanda or Spittal in an advanced position is mind boggling. I mean how bad do those two look in training? 

That is the key question I hope the new manager can sort. 

[LarrysRightFoot]

I’ve said before but he reminds me of Olly Lee, obviously got competent technique and a decent enough understanding of the game but offers absolutely nowhere near enough. Should have been emptied in the summer. Keeping the likes of Tait and maybe even Sandilands from getting first team opportunities. 

[gorgieshuffle]

1 hour ago, Leveins Battalion said:

See if we just went with a front 4 of Shanks,Vargas,Dhanda and McKay we would get on a lot better.

 

 

Benni and Devlin/Boateng can do the dirty work.

Our best performance this season had that front 4. 

[Gambo]

His time is up, along with a few others.

[Carter]

26 minutes ago, Malone said:

Based on what?

Just not going to make the grade at Hearts imo. Hope I'm wrong as we've got him for another 2.5 years. The biggest factor in the starting lineup yesterday was the absence of a solitary player signed in the summer. That's utterly damning of the recruitment Naismith overseen. We've got so many safe battling type midfielders for a team that has so much of the ball. The absence of urgency, creativity and athleticism across the group is quite incredible. We've got 3 LB's (4 if you include Rowles can play there) yet we're left to confront a European campaign with an 18 year old and a CB as RB options. We also have one striker and he's going through the motions and most probably setting a piss poor example to other members of the group who are more than happy to slump into mediocrity and worse as we're witnessing. 

 

Spittal looks a bottom 6 player based on what I've seen so far. We're looking every bit a bottom 6 outfit based on the pish served up this season so far. I was convinced we'd win yesterday. This lot managed to surprise me further on just how low they're able to sink. Whoever comes in us going to have serious issues with parts of this squad unless he's really assertive and gets the shit tipped out. 

[Chaps]

We’ve benched two of the most creative players in the league last season almost every game yet we persist with a player that’s done the square root of **** all for 3 years.

 

Utter madness.

[Malone]

39 minutes ago, Carter said:

Spittal looks a bottom 6 player based on what I've seen so far. We're looking every bit a bottom 6 outfit based on the pish served up this season so far. I was convinced we'd win yesterday. This lot managed to surprise me further on just how low they're able to sink. Whoever comes in us going to have serious issues with parts of this squad unless he's really assertive and gets the shit tipped out. 

Unfortunately what we’ve seen so far is Spittal played deep in midfield and then cameo appearances on the wing. Get him in the number 10 position and he’ll influence things like he did late on yesterday.

[OTT]

I think there is an argument to play Grant next to Beni (or to play when Beni isn't availible maybe?) 

 

He sucks as a CAM. Like, if you can't cause Ross County problems, you're not a CAM. 

 

Spittal should start ahead if we're going to be playing a 433 or maybe Dhanda. 

 

Although McKay has been slated, I'm convinced we will play better when we have Shankland, McKay, Spittal & Dhanda on the field at once. 

[Jambof3tornado]

I like grant and hoped he'd grow on others but I've seen enough,he's not consistent enough. Dhanda consistently one of counties best players,get him starting games and let him flourish.

[tiger Rudi]

3 hours ago, Carter said:

I'm afraid Blair Spittal just isn't a Hearts player.

He reminds me a bit of Callaghan. Plenty intent and endeavour, but just a bit short of our level. Not enough pace. 

He has time though, a run of games in his favoured position would surely see him push on. He had a great season with Motherwell, there must be a player there 

[Luckies1874]

2 hours ago, pettigrewsstylist said:

If anyone is giving him benefit of doubt. Go watch his reaction after his horrendous touch, which can happen, loses us the ball, just prior to County goal. Watch his tracking back, and watch Beni sprint past him to make tackle. Then consider where Grant may have been, in realtion to goalscorer and loose ball, had he applied himself in the same manner.

Beni..contract extension. Grant leaving next summer likely. 

We are in a relegation battle IMO. Grant is not going to contribute enough if he cant "get the message" about what was reqd yesterday, in the same week he watched his 2nd mgr fired and humiliated.

Fox thought he was the go to man yesterday.

Relegation battle beckons.

 

 

7 games in and you think we are in a relegation battle. Gies peace. 

[Spookie]

20 hours ago, DB-14 said:

What is he good at? 

Pretending to be a footballer 

 

Looks the part,  but he's done nothing since his arrival 

 

Another one out the door 🚪 

[Scott Leitch]

2 hours ago, Malone said:

Unfortunately what we’ve seen so far is Spittal played deep in midfield and then cameo appearances on the wing. Get him in the number 10 position and he’ll influence things like he did late on yesterday.

 

Are you Spittal? He influenced **** all yesterday. What you going on about. He was shit. 

[OTT]

30 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said:

 

 

7 games in and you think we are in a relegation battle. Gies peace. 

 

We are until we're not. 

[Luckies1874]

2 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

We are until we're not. 

 

 

We need some wins obviously and they will come once we have new leadership in the dugout. To say we are in a relegation battle after 7 matches and with 93 points to play for, knowing that there are some rubbish teams in the League and given we will be able to bring in some quality in January, is nothing short of hysterical drama queen nonsense.

[pettigrewsstylist]

1 hour ago, Luckies1874 said:

 

 

7 games in and you think we are in a relegation battle. Gies peace. 

Table doesnt lie. Our schedule about to get harder.

Edited September 29 by pettigrewsstylist

[pettigrewsstylist]

38 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

We are until we're not. 

Totally.

[Luckies1874]

1 minute ago, pettigrewsstylist said:

Table doesnt lie.

 

In terms of our position after 7 games it doesn't lie. You aren't in a relegation battle after 7 games though especially when we are only 8pts from 4th. We are far more likely to finish 4th than we are 11th or bottom I can say with absolute certainty. 

[pettigrewsstylist]

1 minute ago, Luckies1874 said:

 

In terms of our position after 7 games it doesn't lie. You aren't in a relegation battle after 7 games though especially when we are only 8pts from 4th. We are far more likely to finish 4th than we are 11th or bottom I can say with absolute certainty. 

2 pts from 21. Only 8pts from 4th you say. I struggle to see how this squad gets relegated aswell, but im not blind to the possibility. No sure when the  starting gun gets fired on any "relegation battle" but happy we are in one as long as we look unable to climb table.

Let see how things look after Pittodrie, Methodrome and Liedoon,  Killie. 

[Pasquale for King]

21 hours ago, DB-14 said:

What is he good at? 

Hide n seek 

[David McCaig]

1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said:

Hide n seek 

Flying under the radar

[Pasquale for King]

Just now, David McCaig said:

Flying under the radar

Thankfully most of our fans now see his poor performances, some still say stuff like “neat and tidy” like hes a good school kid 🤦🏽. 

[Sherbet]

Grant makes a pass then stops     should be pass and run. Typical of players who come up here from England. Think.they are better than they are. Think Kent is a bit like that as well

[periodictabledancer]

At the Preston friendly I was  talking to a  Forest fan who really rated Grant and said we were getting a player. Two years on and I'm still waiting. How he is still at the club defies belief as did his performance yesterday. Should've been punted at the end of  last season along with a few others who've delivered next to nowt. A guy who typifies everything thats wrong at the club and a total impostor of a footballer. 

[OTT]

3 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said:

At the Preston friendly I was  talking to a  Forest fan who really rated Grant and said we were getting a player. Two years on and I'm still waiting. How he is still at the club defies belief as did his performance yesterday. Should've been punted at the end of  last season along with a few others who've delivered next to nowt. A guy who typifies everything thats wrong at the club and a total impostor of a footballer. 

 

Looking forward to a cull of the first team in the summer. 

 

Need to replace a lot of these experienced players with players that actually possess a bit of character that don't suffer from near constant confidence issues. 

[Pasquale for King]

25 minutes ago, Sherbet said:

Grant makes a pass then stops     should be pass and run. Typical of players who come up here from England. Think.they are better than they are. Think Kent is a bit like that as well

Definitely, Humphreys another. 

[Pasquale for King]

12 minutes ago, OTT said:

 

Looking forward to a cull of the first team in the summer. 

 

Need to replace a lot of these experienced players with players that actually possess a bit of character that don't suffer from near constant confidence issues. 

Spot on, a lot more young athletes that give 100% at all times, as a support we usually forgive a little in quality if they have heart. Well in the past maybe.

[Pasquale for King]

19 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said:

At the Preston friendly I was  talking to a  Forest fan who really rated Grant and said we were getting a player. Two years on and I'm still waiting. How he is still at the club defies belief as did his performance yesterday. Should've been punted at the end of  last season along with a few others who've delivered next to nowt. A guy who typifies everything thats wrong at the club and a total impostor of a footballer. 

I think the pace of the game suits him there, he has had decent games on the big pitches at Ibrox or Celtic Park where he has more time and occasionally in Europe. 
We had a guy decades ago called Davie Kirkwood, was apparently great in training but didn’t show it on the park, that surely has to be the reason he plays?

[The Treasurer]

4 hours ago, pettigrewsstylist said:

If anyone is giving him benefit of doubt. Go watch his reaction after his horrendous touch, which can happen, loses us the ball, just prior to County goal. Watch his tracking back, and watch Beni sprint past him to make tackle. Then consider where Grant may have been, in realtion to goalscorer and loose ball, had he applied himself in the same manner.

Beni..contract extension. Grant leaving next summer likely. 

We are in a relegation battle IMO. Grant is not going to contribute enough if he cant "get the message" about what was reqd yesterday, in the same week he watched his 2nd mgr fired and humiliated.

Fox thought he was the go to man yesterday.

Relegation battle beckons.

I've just watched the highlights and came on to post the exact same thing. 

He lost the ball thanks to a shocking first touch but made no effort to rectify the situation 

[OTT]

1 minute ago, Pasquale for King said:

Spot on, a lot more young athletes that give 100% at all times, as a support we usually forgive a little in quality if they have heart. Well in the past maybe.

 

I want to see players with a similar attitude to Hartley or Pressley - proper senior pro's that will set standards. 

 

Feels like we have too many like Grant or Forrest that are happy to ride others coat tails, whilst offering nothing of note themselves. . 

[periodictabledancer]

1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said:

I think the pace of the game suits him there, he has had decent games on the big pitches at Ibrox or Celtic Park where he has more time and occasionally in Europe. 
We had a guy decades ago called Davie Kirkwood, was apparently great in training but didn’t show it on the park, that surely has to be the reason he plays?

Davie Firewood is a perfect comparison. 

As for Grant, time's up. 

[Malone]

3 hours ago, Scott Leitch said:

 

Are you Spittal? He influenced **** all yesterday. What you going on about. He was shit. 

He was literally our main creative force after he came on. Great through ball for Grant chance and the one-two for the Shankland chance late on. Was picking up the ball in dangerous spaces. If you missed all those at the time go and watch the highlights to refresh your memory. 

[Scott Leitch]

Just now, Malone said:

He was literally our main creative force after he came on. Great through ball for Grant chance and the one-two for the Shankland chance late on. Was picking up the ball in dangerous spaces. If you missed all those at the time go and watch the highlights to refresh your memory. 

You're talking shite. McKay and Dhanda were miles ahead of him. 

 

Anyway you're clearly associated in some way to him mate so we'll leave it there. 

[Malone]

Just now, Scott Leitch said:

You're talking shite. McKay and Dhanda were miles ahead of him. 

 

Anyway you're clearly associated in some way to him mate so we'll leave it there. 
 

 

 

A visit to either Specsavers or the GP definitely required for you buddy.

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, OTT said:

 

I want to see players with a similar attitude to Hartley or Pressley - proper senior pro's that will set standards. 

 

Feels like we have too many like Grant or Forrest that are happy to ride others coat tails, whilst offering nothing of note themselves. . 

I think the Star Lizard blueprint has these types, Dunk/Wellbeck/Lallana/Milner sprinkled through the team.

[Pasquale for King]

7 minutes ago, periodictabledancer said:

Davie Firewood is a perfect comparison. 

As for Grant, time's up. 

Forgot he was called that, showing our age there 😆. 
Yes lets hope we don’t see much more of Grant this season.

[Drumjambo]

5 hours ago, OTT said:

I think there is an argument to play Grant next to Beni (or to play when Beni isn't availible maybe?) 

 

He sucks as a CAM. Like, if you can't cause Ross County problems, you're not a CAM. 

 

Spittal should start ahead if we're going to be playing a 433 or maybe Dhanda. 

 

Although McKay has been slated, I'm convinced we will play better when we have Shankland, McKay, Spittal & Dhanda on the field at once. 

 

4 attaching players?? starting at once ?? your going back to pre admin to watch that 

[periodictabledancer]

5 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

Forgot he was called that, showing our age there 😆. 
Yes lets hope we don’t see much more of Grant this season.

👍

[Bull's-eye]

In a set up thats about attacking and given a freedom to express themselves i think the likes of Grant will shine.

 

As thats why he was signed in the 1st place, if we're going to keep this dogs of war approach in midfield of trying to battle through games, he's not your man, only Beni has the minerals for that type of scrap and because of it, will be injured again before long.

 

This posession based rubbish we play doesn't work, doesn't suit any of the players we have and im expecting it to be binned as soon as a new coach enters the building.

[gorgieshuffle]

I remember hearing the players called him Jorge when he was on it and George if he was shite. Can only imagine he’s been called George for the majority of his time. 

[GinRummy]

He didn’t do great under Naismith but did improve on how mostly awful he was under Neilson. Pretty shocked the failed Cowdenbeath manager couldn’t get the best out of Grant after 5 days in charge. 

[Luckies1874]

1 minute ago, gorgieshuffle said:

I remember hearing the players called him Jorge when he was on it and George if he was shite. Can only imagine he’s been called George for the majority of his time. 

 

 

Definitely more George Cowie than Jorge Cadete.

[Papa]

I measure the success of AMs by the number of goals they contribute/assist. I can’t remember Grant’s last goal, other than a penalty, or his last assist. His abject carelessness yesterday cost us a goal and might have cost us more. To be fair I have never forgiven him for costing us the Zurich tie.

[jambogirlglasgow]

5 minutes ago, Papa said:

I measure the success of AMs by the number of goals they contribute/assist. I can’t remember Grant’s last goal, other than a penalty, or his last assist. His abject carelessness yesterday cost us a goal and might have cost us more. To be fair I have never forgiven him for costing us the Zurich tie.

Exactly. Can’t wait to see him leave. 

[Luckies1874]

10 minutes ago, Papa said:

I measure the success of AMs by the number of goals they contribute/assist. I can’t remember Grant’s last goal, other than a penalty, or his last assist. His abject carelessness yesterday cost us a goal and might have cost us more. To be fair I have never forgiven him for costing us the Zurich tie.

 

Think he only got one non penalty League goal last season, in the 4-2 v Livvy. One in the League Cup at Killie. Nowhere near good enough and never will be. 

[Drylaw Hearts]

He won’t survive another overhaul of the squad.

[GinRummy]

3 minutes ago, Drylaw Hearts said:

He won’t survive another overhaul of the squad.

His contract is up at the end of this season.