Jamboross Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Spookie said: I'm absolutely baffled we haven't brought in anyone after McCart and Elon We've known for months were we need improvements and as usual we are dragging our feet This is a big game tommorow We can't just unilaterally go and sign players, we likely have identified several others and are most probably speaking to their clubs but there's a million and one different reasons why things can drag on. Waiting on the selling club bringing in a replacement, waiting on one of our players finalising a deal to free up wages, the players in question weighing up different offers etc etc etc. We acted early to get players in for two of the most important positions so I'm relatively chill about how the window is going. Edited January 11 by Jamboross Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameronstheman Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 37 minutes ago, neilnunb said: Mind someone recently telling us we were getting £800k from St Etienne for him!!! 🤣🤣🤣 Devin and £5 million were no strangers on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo dans les Pyrenees Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 13 minutes ago, Dsjambo said: Yep, a great example of this was the cup tie v Hibs 2016, big Oz didn’t play because he was heading to China for a million quid. Cost us the game and we all know what happened after that.. Was that the “moneyspinner” game where they beat us in the replay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrices left boot Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 43 minutes ago, BRY said: I don't understand why you don't get it..? He might get injured in Sunday which would likely mean that Derry would pull out of the deal, and we would be left with a player who couldn't play! This is not a new situation - you see this all the time in transfers Nah, he played just last week and the weeks before that, keeping him safe from injury doesn't add up. Never heard that as a reason to push a transfer through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 19 minutes ago, GinRummy said: On the bench? Best seat in the house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwd1957 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 10 minutes ago, Jamboross said: We can't just unilaterally go and sign players, we likely have identified several others and are most probably speaking to their clubs but there's a million and one different reasons why things can drag on. Waiting on the selling club bringing in a replacement, waiting on one of our players finalising a deal to free up wages, the players in question weighing up different offers etc etc etc. We acted early to get players in for two of the most important positions so I'm relatively chill about how the window is going. Lets hope McCart and Elton don't get injured ,we needed 2 CH and 2 FWDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboross Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, gwd1957 said: Lets hope McCart and Elton don't get injured ,we needed 2 CH and 2 FWDS And there's still 23 days of the window left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 10 minutes ago, gwd1957 said: Lets hope McCart and Elton don't get injured ,we needed 2 CH and 2 FWDS Injuries ! We don’t do injuries 😔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 11 minutes ago, Jamboross said: And there's still 23 days of the window left. There’s games to play before the end though. Not really got time to hang about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin B Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 36 minutes ago, Spookie said: I'm absolutely baffled we haven't brought in anyone after McCart and Elon We've known for months were we need improvements and as usual we are dragging our feet This is a big game tommorow There’s two teams involved in a signing and the timing has to be right for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamboross Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, GinRummy said: There’s games to play before the end though. Not really got time to hang about. Of course, in an ideal scenario we'd have had six players in on January 1st but my initial point was it's not all on us. The club know we need players in quickly and managed to get two in very soon after the window opening. There's a multitude of reasons why other deals might be taking longer and most of them have nothing to do with us yet folk will moan that we're taking too long and dragging our heels when there are multiple parties involved in any transfer. We could, of course, pull out of any deal that's taking an age to conclude and move down our list of targets but I'd much rather we got who we were after even if it means waiting a week or two longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Derry not even playing at the monent, first league game is on Valentines day. https://www.heartsstandard.co.uk/news/24849699.liam-boyces-hearts-exit-confirmed-returns-northern-ireland/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilmuir Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 39 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: Maybe, but why, also he is under contract at Hearts so he can't demand it. A day also makes no difference. You are getting very confused over a new player signing a new contract firca new club or an extension and the club holding a player to terms for their existing contract. If you can't see the difference then that is your issue tbh. Good try tho. The whatts app group says "coming days" so he may not actually leave until next week. It’s up to the club when a player leaves. Strange timing. We are still in a precarious position in the league. Win tomorrow and we’re all happy and it’s a great piece of business letting him go. Alternatively….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Derry not even playing at the monent, first league game is on Valentines day. https://www.heartsstandard.co.uk/news/24849699.liam-boyces-hearts-exit-confirmed-returns-northern-ireland/ Their pres season starts Monday and they are on a training camp so it's understandable they would want him in the group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger Is Back Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Shanks said: The difference probably is that a stiff breeze could put boyce out for 10 months and then we are once again paying him to be injured. The odds are much less on that happening to rowles. Boyce out of contract in the summer so worst case scenario is c5 months but get your point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, Jamboross said: Of course, in an ideal scenario we'd have had six players in on January 1st but my initial point was it's not all on us. The club know we need players in quickly and managed to get two in very soon after the window opening. There's a multitude of reasons why other deals might be taking longer and most of them have nothing to do with us yet folk will moan that we're taking too long and dragging our heels when there are multiple parties involved in any transfer. We could, of course, pull out of any deal that's taking an age to conclude and move down our list of targets but I'd much rather we got who we were after even if it means waiting a week or two longer. I guess it’s a balance. For me, folk like Boyce and anyone else in the first team squad stays put until their replacement is in the door. We need the points at the end of the day. Going with, in any game , a weakened squad because we’ve let contracted players leave before they’re replaced just isn’t acceptable to me. Unless we win of course, then it’s fine 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invernessjt Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Ted Maul said: Well, he was involved in the goal..credited with and assist too! But generally we have looked better with him in the team of late. The team have improved the last 3 games but Boyce was only decent in 1 of them. He was poor v Motherwell and United. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maroonsgotop Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 10 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Derry not even playing at the monent, first league game is on Valentines day. https://www.heartsstandard.co.uk/news/24849699.liam-boyces-hearts-exit-confirmed-returns-northern-ireland/ Their pre season starts on Monday apparently, so probably wanted him for that. No great timing for us though but we'll see how it turns out tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 8 minutes ago, bazman said: Their pres season starts Monday and they are on a training camp so it's understandable they would want him in the group Hes fully fit, taking a risk he will last their whole season which is 36 games i imagine, will cost them a bit in wages too. But i still don’t think it suit us, which should be everyone’s concern. Edited January 11 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo-Jambo Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Never been impressed with Boyce tbh. Missed far too many easy chances in his career with us but managed to stay for 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, maroonsgotop said: Their pre season starts on Monday apparently, so probably wanted him for that. No great timing for us though but we'll see how it turns out tomorrow. Apparently so, not sure he will last until November when their season ends. Still of no use to us tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, GinRummy said: I guess it’s a balance. For me, folk like Boyce and anyone else in the first team squad stays put until their replacement is in the door. We need the points at the end of the day. Going with, in any game , a weakened squad because we’ve let contracted players leave before they’re replaced just isn’t acceptable to me. Unless we win of course, then it’s fine 🙂 I’m not in the know but I get the feeling we are wanting more players moved on before we sign anyone else and to me that’s very risky we are not in any position to leave ourselves short. I can see Shankland if he is ( fit) back in the team tomorrow replacing Boyce 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clerry Jambo Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Never been impressed with Boyce tbh. Missed far too many easy chances in his career with us but managed to stay for 5 years. Agree Robbo, to some it’s we have lost a loved one. Boycie was decent for us but ffs we need much better to get us out this relegation battle hopefully the board as well as the players have the bottle for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrices left boot Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 18 minutes ago, Pilmuir said: It’s up to the club when a player leaves. Strange timing. We are still in a precarious position in the league. Win tomorrow and we’re all happy and it’s a great piece of business letting him go. Alternatively….. That was my thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 hour ago, Herts90 said: Has anyone heard of any interest in guys like McKay etc?, hopefully they’re not hard to shift Need signings in sooner rather than later tho, definitely winger or physical presence up top He's a Supermarket Security Guard. You can see him...he looks like he'd be able to offer assistance.....but when you really need him he's actually unable to do anything. Stands about a lot and easily pushed out of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merseyjambo Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Can’t believe so many people can’t grasp the Boyce situation. He wants to go back to Ireland, I’d take a guess we won’t be getting a transfer fee but the trade off will be he doesn’t get his contract paid up. Derry want a player that is healthy and Boyce over last few years has seen a fair bit of the treatment table. If he’d played tomorrow the chances are he wouldn’t have put in a shift as he’d be worried about getting injured. Anything happened ad we’d have one of our alleged highest earners on the books for another 6 months. Bottom line is, if Hearts weren’t ok with letting him go, they wouldn’t have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 4 minutes ago, merseyjambo said: Can’t believe so many people can’t grasp the Boyce situation. He wants to go back to Ireland, I’d take a guess we won’t be getting a transfer fee but the trade off will be he doesn’t get his contract paid up. Derry want a player that is healthy and Boyce over last few years has seen a fair bit of the treatment table. If he’d played tomorrow the chances are he wouldn’t have put in a shift as he’d be worried about getting injured. Anything happened ad we’d have one of our alleged highest earners on the books for another 6 months. Bottom line is, if Hearts weren’t ok with letting him go, they wouldn’t have. I think people grasp that, they just don't agree. Won't know if it's a good or a bad decision until tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vlad on the tyne Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Timing of the Boyce transfer isn't ideal but when everything is taken into consideration it does make sense. Boyce wants to go home, we get some transfer money now, probably one of the bigger wages off the wage bill and means we could see spittal or dhanda in a position they are more comfortable in. A loan signing from down south in the mould of Ellis Simms would also be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Classy guy 👏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1977 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, jambo_74 said: I personally don't think he was hopeless last week, he maybe wasn't quite as good as he was against Motherwell, but he still played some nice stuff. His passing was pretty accurate, he brought others into the game, and he guided Wilson throughout the time he was on the pitch, all in all he was fairly effective in his role. All of that said, I am happy to try Dhanda in the number ten position tomorrow, its sink or swim time, and the only way we are going to find out if he can hold his own is by playing him in a run of games in his natural position. We don’t play a number 10. We play with 2 strikers and one drops a wee bit deeper. We need one of those strikers to have a bit physicality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 17 minutes ago, Robbo-Jambo said: Never been impressed with Boyce tbh. Missed far too many easy chances in his career with us but managed to stay for 5 years. He never missed a chance to give it the shhhhhhhh to the hearts support when he scores his 1 goal a season though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrices left boot Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) Has he gone now? All the news says he's signed, but " to depart" or depart in a few days. Edited January 11 by Bazzas right boot His parting comment would Indicate he's gone now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrices left boot Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Shanks said: He never missed a chance to give it the shhhhhhhh to the hearts support when he scores his 1 goal a season though. Quite right anaw, it's great it wound up a certain section of fans at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penrices left boot Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 13 minutes ago, merseyjambo said: Can’t believe so many people can’t grasp the Boyce situation. He wants to go back to Ireland, I’d take a guess we won’t be getting a transfer fee but the trade off will be he doesn’t get his contract paid up. Derry want a player that is healthy and Boyce over last few years has seen a fair bit of the treatment table. If he’d played tomorrow the chances are he wouldn’t have put in a shift as he’d be worried about getting injured. Anything happened ad we’d have one of our alleged highest earners on the books for another 6 months. Bottom line is, if Hearts weren’t ok with letting him go, they wouldn’t have. Fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byyy The Light Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 All the best Boyce. Loved when you nicked the hat and wound up the Hibees. Big Rocky was going nuts 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 13 minutes ago, merseyjambo said: Can’t believe so many people can’t grasp the Boyce situation. He wants to go back to Ireland, I’d take a guess we won’t be getting a transfer fee but the trade off will be he doesn’t get his contract paid up. Derry want a player that is healthy and Boyce over last few years has seen a fair bit of the treatment table. If he’d played tomorrow the chances are he wouldn’t have put in a shift as he’d be worried about getting injured. Anything happened ad we’d have one of our alleged highest earners on the books for another 6 months. Bottom line is, if Hearts weren’t ok with letting him go, they wouldn’t have. Everybody gets the reasoning. My opinion is Boyce would have given 100 percent tomorrow and helped us win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo_74 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, Russ1977 said: We don’t play a number 10. We play with 2 strikers and one drops a wee bit deeper. We need one of those strikers to have a bit physicality. That's semantics, we have a fairly fluid system in attack and our manager even suggested in response to a question about losing Boyce that Spittal, Grant or Dhanda can play the number ten role. So we may not have always played a typical number ten in the role, but we certainly expected the player in that role to provide assists, link play and be creative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Beni of Gorgie Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 hours ago, Don DaniEL said: Both your posts are Rubbish!! 😉 Waste of a post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I’d take a guess that letting him go means Shankland is ready for tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One five Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 8 minutes ago, jambo_74 said: That's semantics, we have a fairly fluid system in attack and our manager even suggested in response to a question about losing Boyce that Spittal, Grant or Dhanda can play the number ten role. So we may not have always played a typical number ten in the role, but we certainly expected the player in that role to provide assists, link play and be creative. The game will be a physical battle tomorrow Dhanda no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hertz21 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Reckon there will be alot of business after tomorrow right up to Killie in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ1977 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 12 minutes ago, jambo_74 said: That's semantics, we have a fairly fluid system in attack and our manager even suggested in response to a question about losing Boyce that Spittal, Grant or Dhanda can play the number ten role. So we may not have always played a typical number ten in the role, but we certainly expected the player in that role to provide assists, link play and be creative. It’s not semantics at all. One of our strikers drops a bit deeper and is almost a target man whilst the other tries to stretch the opposition. Dhanda can’t do either so it would be a change of tactics to play him in a 10 in a 4231. I’m happy enough to go with that and hopefully it works but it’s defo different to how we’ve been playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McCrae Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 45 minutes ago, GinRummy said: I guess it’s a balance. For me, folk like Boyce and anyone else in the first team squad stays put until their replacement is in the door. We need the points at the end of the day. Going with, in any game , a weakened squad because we’ve let contracted players leave before they’re replaced just isn’t acceptable to me. Unless we win of course, then it’s fine 🙂 It’s all about winning. Lose tomorrow and the knives will be out again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddysBar Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, Armageddon said: I’d take a guess that letting him go means Shankland is ready for tomorrow. That’s what I was thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duos123 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 hours ago, GinRummy said: Out of pure nosiness I’d still like to hear exactly what happened with him. Same especially as when I get to the month he's on he won't be a hearts player anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 3 hours ago, Spookie said: Shows just how badly we are run Any normal run club would have had his replacement in first before letting him go Idiots the lot of them 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 32 minutes ago, Taffin said: I think people grasp that, they just don't agree. Won't know if it's a good or a bad decision until tomorrow. If we win tomorrow then it was a brilliant move? If we draw tomorrow then it was a meh move? If we lose tomorrow then it was a $#!t move? Makes perfect sense. This place gets more ****ed by the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) All the best to Boyce, good that he is off the wage bill, though he goes with nothing but good wishes. Edited January 11 by Fraggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 38 minutes ago, Taffin said: I think people grasp that, they just don't agree. Won't know if it's a good or a bad decision until tomorrow. So one game is going to define whether letting Boyce go was a good decision or not, sound 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 6 minutes ago, HeartsandonlyHearts said: If we win tomorrow then it was a brilliant move? If we draw tomorrow then it was a meh move? If we lose tomorrow then it was a $#!t move? Makes perfect sense. This place gets more ****ed by the day. Eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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