Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 Sure between now and then they'll be plenty rumours flying about !! Definitely need to address striking department with at least one new striker and possibly even 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIGJAM Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 1 minute ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Sure between now and then they'll be plenty rumours flying about !! Definitely need to address striking department with at least one new striker and possibly even 2. Don’t disagree, but going to be very hard to get any new striker in given 1) we play one striker, 2) we have Shankland, 3) he plays every minute. The complaint for the window just shut was lack of quality. Sadly no quality striker is joining January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 Regardless of anything else, the Daily Ranger will be flooding the clickbait sphere with endless garbage re-Shankland; aided and abetted by the likes of 'Ibrox News' who are 'at it' constantly. My prediction? It's going to be one big steaming heap o' nonsense with more 'left-field' suggestions than ye can shake a stick at. Me? I'll simply chill and await the denouement. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if we end up with Shanks still playing for us ... after much agenda driven shit-stirring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 22 minutes ago, FIGJAM said: Don’t disagree, but going to be very hard to get any new striker in given 1) we play one striker, 2) we have Shankland, 3) he plays every minute. The complaint for the window just shut was lack of quality. Sadly no quality striker is joining January. Likely true, but did we not bag Ellis Simms in Jan '22? He was no bad, eh? c.f. Género Zeefuik, Jan 2015. He was no bad as well? Clearly, I live in hope. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocam2325 Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 Oh great, another transfer thread for someone to pollute with an endless stream of You Tube highlight videos of players we have never heard of who would be highly unlikely to consider Hearts even if we were interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 7 minutes ago, Jocam2325 said: Oh great, another transfer thread for someone to pollute with an endless stream of You Tube highlight videos of players we have never heard of who would be highly unlikely to consider Hearts even if we were interested. Batten down the hatches, bud ... this thread will run to over 300 pages ... and some ... by which time certain folks will have blown a gasket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T.F.Robertson Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 1 hour ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Sure between now and then they'll be plenty rumours flying about !! Definitely need to address striking department with at least one new striker and possibly even 2. Don't be daft, we're amply covered in that department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 Some footballers would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 If things carry on in the current trajectory, we will be panic buying our way out of trouble, stop gaps to keep us in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedoorsdown Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 (edited) The players aren’t the problem at Hearts. It’s the horrendously low standards within the environment. Manager after manager with the same underachievement. 12 years without a major trophy now. Getting pumped off clubs that we have 5/6 times the turnover of. Finance doesn’t necessarily mean success, however when will we start to see a return on our loyalty as a fan base? We have been more than patient and people are starting to get pissed off. Before everyone over the age of 60 pipes up and says Hearts have always been this way. I don’t care, times have changed and so have expectations. Edited September 8, 2024 by Threedoorsdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 11 minutes ago, Ally said: Some footballers would be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearts at heart Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 6 minutes ago, Threedoorsdown said: The players aren’t the problem at Hearts. It’s the horrendously low standards within the environment. Manager after manager with the same underachievement. 12 years without a major trophy now. Getting pumped off clubs that we have 5/6 times the turnover of. Finance doesn’t necessarily mean success, however when will we start to see a return on our loyalty as a fan base? We have been more than patient and people are starting to get pissed off. Before everyone over the age of 60 pipes up and says Hearts have always been this way. I don’t care, times have changed and so have expectations. Well I'm over 60. However I agree with you. The answer was in the last window and lack of a good centre half and forward who can help Shankland with the scoring. Off course if we had resolved these positions and been able to change the negative way to positive attacking and exciting play, I may have got my wish. We are unfortunately where we are. S.N. coat must be on a shaky nail. I am completely hacked off by the results and the continual passing across the back. Things need to change and I don't think we can wait till the next transfer window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 If we cannot string any form together, trying to make signings is going to get very difficult because nobody wants to join a team with a losing culture. I'd like a LCB, cover for Shanks and another winger. Would also like an eye kept out for another RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 20 minutes ago, Threedoorsdown said: The players aren’t the problem at Hearts. It’s the horrendously low standards within the environment. Manager after manager with the same underachievement. 12 years without a major trophy now. Getting pumped off clubs that we have 5/6 times the turnover of. Finance doesn’t necessarily mean success, however when will we start to see a return on our loyalty as a fan base? We have been more than patient and people are starting to get pissed off. Before everyone over the age of 60 pipes up and says Hearts have always been this way. I don’t care, times have changed and so have expectations. With regards to this, we don’t appear to have as much spare money available to spend as many of us believe Without getting into an argument a lot of our money seems to go on things like community projects, etc etc, all very admirable, but I am 100%, the success of the first team is not the main concern for those in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chillidigits Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 29 minutes ago, hearts at heart said: Well I'm over 60. However I agree with you. The answer was in the last window and lack of a good centre half and forward who can help Shankland with the scoring. Off course if we had resolved these positions and been able to change the negative way to positive attacking and exciting play, I may have got my wish. We are unfortunately where we are. S.N. coat must be on a shaky nail. I am completely hacked off by the results and the continual passing across the back. Things need to change and I don't think we can wait till the next transfer window. Re the passing across the back point I think it's more to do with a lack of movement/imagination by the men in front of them. I watched the England game yesterday. They were doing loads of passing across the back but once an opening presented itself they got the ball forward because the guys in front of them were constantly on the move dragging the deep lying Irish around and this gave the English back line loads of options to start an attack. Okay they have better players than us but surely the more you train a team to pass and move effectively the better that team will perform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Sikes Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 Nobody in. Everbody oooot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 (edited) The new manager will obviously have his own ideas of who he wants, ably assisted by our new SD who has no absolutely no experience in dealing with any aspect of transfers apart from the medical. Edited September 8, 2024 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 2 hours ago, jbee647 said: If things carry on in the current trajectory, we will be panic buying our way out of trouble, stop gaps to keep us in the league Calling Marcel Langer and Donis Avdijaj... calling Mar... Nah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 3 hours ago, Threedoorsdown said: The players aren’t the problem at Hearts. It’s the horrendously low standards within the environment. Manager after manager with the same underachievement. 12 years without a major trophy now. Getting pumped off clubs that we have 5/6 times the turnover of. Finance doesn’t necessarily mean success, however when will we start to see a return on our loyalty as a fan base? We have been more than patient and people are starting to get pissed off. Before everyone over the age of 60 pipes up and says Hearts have always been this way. I don’t care, times have changed and so have expectations. You'll be 60 years old before you know it ... ... Tempus fugit ... ... Tick-Tock ... 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIGJAM Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 5 hours ago, Wee Mikey said: Likely true, but did we not bag Ellis Simms in Jan '22? He was no bad, eh? c.f. Género Zeefuik, Jan 2015. He was no bad as well? Clearly, I live in hope. 😁 Would take the same. Just not sure anyone who is any good comes in to play second fiddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borders Jambo Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 I’m not sure if we have the choice of delaying things until the next window and think we need to bring in an out of contract player, if that is still feasible. I just wonder given the start to the season made by Shankland, if I was Naismith, given the fact that I may only have a few games left, I would be pressuring whoever is in charge to get something done. It may be that bringing someone in provides the spark to the team or to Shankland. This is not a criticism of Shankland who undoubtedly has been a great acquisition for us but for some reason it’s not happening at the moment. Personally I blame Steve Clarke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 4 hours ago, OTT said: If we cannot string any form together, trying to make signings is going to get very difficult because nobody wants to join a team with a losing culture. I'd like a LCB, cover for Shanks and another winger. Would also like an eye kept out for another RB. Time to cut our losses with Rowles along with one or two others. Oyegoke and Musa are projects and may need a bit of time, so we need Taylor to step up and Shanks to refind his form. Sadly, I think we will be left with a shell of the striker we had last season. Another striker is an immediate need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agentjambo Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 A new frontline please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bawheed Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 6 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Sure between now and then they'll be plenty rumours flying about !! Definitely need to address striking department with at least one new striker and possibly even 2. Calum Morrison at Falkirk would walk into a hearts team and we let him go for nothing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 44 minutes ago, Borders Jambo said: I’m not sure if we have the choice of delaying things until the next window and think we need to bring in an out of contract player, if that is still feasible. I just wonder given the start to the season made by Shankland, if I was Naismith, given the fact that I may only have a few games left, I would be pressuring whoever is in charge to get something done. It may be that bringing someone in provides the spark to the team or to Shankland. This is not a criticism of Shankland who undoubtedly has been a great acquisition for us but for some reason it’s not happening at the moment. Personally I blame Steve Clarke. Naismith is in charge of transfers at the minute, theres nobody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leveins Battalion Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 16 minutes ago, bawheed said: Calum Morrison at Falkirk would walk into a hearts team and we let him go for nothing No he wouldn't 😂😂😂 Hearts fans have genuinely lost their marbles.🤦♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 5 hours ago, Threedoorsdown said: Before everyone over the age of 60 pipes up and says Hearts have always been this way. I don’t care, times have changed and so have expectations. Times have changed, yes. But not for the better, if you're meaning Hearts trying to get close to the OF. Thats a pipe dream, and likely to always be a pipe dream thanks to Bosman and the huge prize money for having a decent run in the Champions and Europa Leagues. The reality for our rivals such as Aberdeen/Killie/Midden/Hibs is that if you have 2 or 3 high performing players - and a manager who utilises them sensibly/cleverly - you can compensate for any financial advantage that Hearts might have. Last 2 seasons Shanks was on fire, and Cochrane was an attacking threat on the left. Cochrane gone now, and Shanks getting much poorer service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocam2325 Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 1 hour ago, bawheed said: Calum Morrison at Falkirk would walk into a hearts team and we let him go for nothing Utter nonsense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threedoorsdown Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 46 minutes ago, Lone Striker said: Times have changed, yes. But not for the better, if you're meaning Hearts trying to get close to the OF. Thats a pipe dream, and likely to always be a pipe dream thanks to Bosman and the huge prize money for having a decent run in the Champions and Europa Leagues. The reality for our rivals such as Aberdeen/Killie/Midden/Hibs is that if you have 2 or 3 high performing players - and a manager who utilises them sensibly/cleverly - you can compensate for any financial advantage that Hearts might have. Last 2 seasons Shanks was on fire, and Cochrane was an attacking threat on the left. Cochrane gone now, and Shanks getting much poorer service. Shanks has had plenty chances. He’s missed them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 1 hour ago, bawheed said: Calum Morrison at Falkirk would walk into a hearts team and we let him go for nothing Sounds like you’ve walked into a few solid objects coming out with nonsense line that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrincha Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 1 hour ago, bawheed said: Calum Morrison at Falkirk would walk into a hearts team and we let him go for nothing Andy Irving would have been a better example to use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 8 hours ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: Sure between now and then they'll be plenty rumours flying about !! We hardly got any rumours on the last thread, it was just the usual pish plus 500 videos from the resident fantasist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 6 hours ago, Threedoorsdown said: The players aren’t the problem at Hearts. It’s the horrendously low standards within the environment. Manager after manager with the same underachievement. 12 years without a major trophy now. Getting pumped off clubs that we have 5/6 times the turnover of. Finance doesn’t necessarily mean success, however when will we start to see a return on our loyalty as a fan base? We have been more than patient and people are starting to get pissed off. Before everyone over the age of 60 pipes up and says Hearts have always been this way. I don’t care, times have changed and so have expectations. Unfortunately since the 60's we've averaged a trophy every 20 years which is atrocious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 9 hours ago, FIGJAM said: Don’t disagree, but going to be very hard to get any new striker in given 1) we play one striker, 2) we have Shankland, 3) he plays every minute. The complaint for the window just shut was lack of quality. Sadly no quality striker is joining January. very high likelihood that shankland will sign a pre-contract with rangers or go for a fee in line with only a few moths left on his contract so we need to be planning without him or without him being the be-all-and-end-all the situation should be much clearer then for all concerned including any new striker(s) we try to sign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oda be a JT Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 Callum Patterson could do a job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 1 hour ago, Absolute Scenes said: Sounds like you’ve walked into a few solid objects coming out with nonsense line that morrison might not be John colquhoun but it’s the likes of Alan forest and oda 😂 we are comparing against so there’s not that much of a gap if at all i haven’t totally given up on oda as he is relatively young and has shown some glimpses of talent but he needs to start doing it this season - he could do with a run of games if possible - on most of his form he would struggle to get into the Falkirk team alan forest is somewhere between a livi player and a hearts substitute and he has had plenty chances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 1 hour ago, Garrincha said: Andy Irving would have been a better example to use andy Irving must have made Paul lambert type progress since leaving hearts - as technically good a player as you will see when he was at hearts he had deficiencies in his game mostly around mobility interesting to see what his long term level turns out to be - if turns out to be better than Callum Paterson I will be very surprised but then I was surprised lambert became a first pick at the European champions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIGJAM Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 17 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: very high likelihood that shankland will sign a pre-contract with rangers or go for a fee in line with only a few moths left on his contract so we need to be planning without him or without him being the be-all-and-end-all the situation should be much clearer then for all concerned including any new striker(s) we try to sign Very true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmorewasgash Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 7 hours ago, OTT said: If we cannot string any form together, trying to make signings is going to get very difficult because nobody wants to join a team with a losing culture. I'd like a LCB, cover for Shanks and another winger. Would also like an eye kept out for another RB. If we are near bottom not many will want to join us they wd go to sheep etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmorewasgash Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 Shows you how stupid our recruitment was lost sibbick tagawa and kirk and didnt replace with striker or strikers and centre back that can defend and deal with big physical spfl strikers. Relying on halkett and boyce was just stupid how many games have they two played in last 3 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbee647 Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 41 minutes ago, MoncurMacdonaldMercer said: very high likelihood that shankland will sign a pre-contract with rangers or go for a fee in line with only a few moths left on his contract so we need to be planning without him or without him being the be-all-and-end-all the situation should be much clearer then for all concerned including any new striker(s) we try to sign Absolutely no chance are Rangers signing a non scoring 30 year old striker with no pace Shankland and his agent have been absolute fools for not signing the contract he was offered by Hearts in January This will come to light next season when he’s playing for Swindon or Doncaster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 3 minutes ago, jbee647 said: Absolutely no chance are Rangers signing a non scoring 30 year old striker with no pace Shankland and his agent have been absolute fools for not signing the contract he was offered by Hearts in January This will come to light next season when he’s playing for Swindon or Doncaster Getting that feeling too. The club should try and see if he's willing to come back to the table. I don't want a situation where bridges get burned because of idiot agents and delusions of granduer. He should be playing for a good club, not some lower league pish because they managed to offer a tiny bit more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyMurphy Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 6 minutes ago, jbee647 said: Absolutely no chance are Rangers signing a non scoring 30 year old striker with no pace Shankland and his agent have been absolute fools for not signing the contract he was offered by Hearts in January This will come to light next season when he’s playing for Swindon or Doncaster I'm pretty sure he will be scoring goals before the winter window again. They haven't at all either, they will get a contract at a club easily on more wages offered here. Do you think club scouts will just ignore the last couple of month because he had a poor August? No danger. Have we made a mistake in most our summer signings who all have been as equally poor if not worse? Or were they signed on the back of good seasons before this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoncurMacdonaldMercer Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 9 minutes ago, jbee647 said: Absolutely no chance are Rangers signing a non scoring 30 year old striker with no pace Shankland and his agent have been absolute fools for not signing the contract he was offered by Hearts in January This will come to light next season when he’s playing for Swindon or Doncaster time will tell - he’s only a non-scoring forward at the moment the price / contract will reflect his age and lack of pace he would be a kris Boyd type signing for them scoring loads in the spl but maybe not a first pick in Europe / away to Celtic etc all depends on how skint rangers really are as if relative to us they’re still prepared to pay big wages shanks will score loads for them and not take up all their budget despite his lack of minutes at the euros he did well and did well against Poland - his domestic season could be seen as a symptom of hearts malaise at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 4 hours ago, bawheed said: Calum Morrison at Falkirk would walk into a hearts team and we let him go for nothing To be fair,I've seen more from Calvin Miller this season than our entire frontline,he will be lucky to be on about £800 a week😂🤣. Yet we are paying Grant,Forrest,Boyce,Mckay, Atkinson,Halkett, well over 2k each a week 😂🤣. Morrison in terms of workrate can't fault him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunks Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 Morrison always had a great work rate, it's his end product that was lacking when he stepped up to the Hearts first team. While he seems to have turned that round at Falkirk, it's been in League 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 3 minutes ago, Dunks said: Morrison always had a great work rate, it's his end product that was lacking when he stepped up to the Hearts first team. While he seems to have turned that round at Falkirk, it's been in League 1. Yeah too soon still unfortunately. Maybe a player worth taking a punt on, but TBH I think he'll end up at a lower end SPFL side. (I appreciate we're yet to notch a win this season). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnking123 Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 Going to say it. No one from Scottish league's. Its sh!t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Lambretta Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 We can start with sending all the Aussies apart from the Hoff packing back to were they came from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jocam2325 Posted September 8, 2024 Share Posted September 8, 2024 1 hour ago, Bongo 1874 said: To be fair,I've seen more from Calvin Miller this season than our entire frontline,he will be lucky to be on about £800 a week😂🤣. Yet we are paying Grant,Forrest,Boyce,Mckay, Atkinson,Halkett, well over 2k each a week 😂🤣. Morrison in terms of workrate can't fault him. Wayne Foster had workmate. What's your point. As usual, you haven't got one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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