New Manager - Critchley confirmed

[Jeff]

Said it when we signed Naismith up that I find it bizarre that we're now willing to pay fairly high 6 level sums for players but still penny pinching on managers and coaches...

[Polonia Gorgie]

1 minute ago, Jeff said:

Said it when we signed Naismith up that I find it bizarre that we're now willing to pay fairly high 6 level sums for players but still penny pinching on managers and coaches...

This

[mr fox]

51 minutes ago, Rudy T said:

 

I get the theory behind this but what level of German coach would we be able to attract? I feel we’d need to do some extensive research before employing another one I’m not sure we have anyone at the club qualified enough to do that. 
 

It’s no secret Stendal was appointed thanks to this place. The board knew nothing of him and certainly would’ve have featured on any list they had.

 

Did Aberdeen not employ some external agency to get their manager? I really don’t see Ann Budge and co going down that route.

Personally think Stendel would have done well with a better budget.

He knew how to press a bit gung ho at times but he could have got this.

 

 

[August Landmesser]

Haven't read the whole thread, but Tony Docherty is doing interesting things at Dundee...

[Rudy T]

4 minutes ago, mr fox said:

Personally think Stendel would have done well with a better budget.

He knew how to press a bit gung ho at times but he could have got this.

 

 

Maybe. The point is the board only appointed him due to JKB, so to expect them to find us a new manager outwith the corridors of Tynecastle is wishful thinking IMO

[the posh bit]

8 minutes ago, mr fox said:

Personally think Stendel would have done well with a better budget.

He knew how to press a bit gung ho at times but he could have got this.

 

 

 

 

😁 😁 😁 😁 

[Jocam2325]

2 hours ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Make him an offer. 

Bongo, how long is Shankland out for. I'm waiting for your insight

[merseyjambo]

Had a look at the Norwegian leagues.

 

Friedrikstad and Viking are not teams you usually see at the top part of league. Not sure if it’s the coach or players they have but they are ahead of some of the bigger hitters in that league.

[feedthefox]

3 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Be as well keeping him with some of the names folk are rattling off 🫢

 

Haha

[gregzy2k7]

The club really need to use this international break to do their homework this time in identifying a manager that has a clear style and system that suits the players we have, I would personally like us to look further a field than a boring lazy appointment like a Robinson or a Mcinnes, i could see the temptation in that, but i just feel that after maybe a year to two years people would be calling for change again, i would like someone more long term, someone who is going to be here for at least 3 seasons and then potentially is wanted by a bigger club, I want someone similar to the Aberdeen manager, someone who has experience of managing a decent size club in another league at a decent level and has been successful with said club.

 

My personal preference would be someone who plays a bit more direct attacking football instead of someone who likes to pass it out from the back, I want a manger similar to how JJ had as playing but ultimately I would take anything as long as we get success.

Edited September 1, 2024 by gregzy2k7

[Sarah O]

John McGlynn

[Dayman]

Jacob Friis for me.

[Toxteth O'Grady]

46 minutes ago, Bungalow Bill said:

To be fair, they brought in Cathro and Stendel who were pretty universally wanted by the majority on this forum. 
 

The Levein appointment was a shambles. The Naismith appointment is looking like it could be bad one, but he did do well last year. 
 

The Neilson appointments were both pretty successful all things considered. 

Cathro was a coach or assistant but never a manager.

Stendel was a maverick who might have been ok if we the flying high but not what we needed when fighting relegation. 
Levien and Neilson were lazy appointments. 

[Bongo 1874]

11 minutes ago, Dayman said:

Jacob Friis for me.

Interesting this one mate 👍 you got anything you can add in terms of style of play etc/info?.

Edited September 1, 2024 by Bongo 1874

[Cruyff]

17 minutes ago, Sarah O said:

John McGlynn

Probably one of the better shouts tbf. Good coach. 

[PapaShango]

It’s all a moot point the board will do nothing. 4 league games into the season papped out the cup and feeble exit from the Europa. We don’t look like scoring and honestly this has the feeling of the season we were demoted, playing horrible football with no win in sight. Manager is clueless as soon as I seen Kingsley right back I knew we were in for a long afternoon. Not one clear cut chance created. Surely his time is up and someone else can get them playing a bit more attacking and attractive football as what we are currently watching is one of the worst Hearts teams for a while. 

[Tokyo Drifter]

3 hours ago, Shankland31 said:

A German.

 

Or Paul Lambert.

 

Maybe McInnes.

Yes

Yes

Absolutely not

[hearts00]

33 minutes ago, Sarah O said:

John McGlynn

Would do a far better job than Naismith. 

[Diego10]

59 minutes ago, mr fox said:

Personally think Stendel would have done well with a better budget.

He knew how to press a bit gung ho at times but he could have got this.

 

 

He was clueless.  He had 2 very good centre backs in Souttar and Halkett who he made look like amateurs with his lack of defensive shape.

[Diego10]

The number of insane ideas on this thread is something to behold 

[Nerja Jambo]

9 minutes ago, Diego10 said:

He was clueless.  He had 2 very good centre backs in Souttar and Halkett who he made look like amateurs with his lack of defensive shape.

Strangely when Stendal got Barnsley promoted they had the best defensive record in the league.

[Tiro]

Ronnie Delia is currently managing in the UAE league. He has good European experience and obviously SPL experience. Not sure whether he could be tempted back to Scotland or what level of compensation Al Wahda FC would demand

[Diego10]

3 minutes ago, Nerja Jambo said:

Strangely when Stendal got Barnsley promoted they had the best defensive record in the league.

Don't really care what he done with Barnsley, he was absolutely clueless here

[Gorgiewave]

Allan Johnston is free.

[Cochrane123]

52 minutes ago, Dayman said:

Jacob Friis for me.

Interesting shout

[vegas-voss]

8 minutes ago, Tiro said:

Ronnie Delia is currently managing in the UAE league. He has good European experience and obviously SPL experience. Not sure whether he could be tempted back to Scotland or what level of compensation Al Wahda FC would demand

Probably earning an absolute fortune there

[Cochrane123]

If anything now could be as attractive as the club gets to any potential managers. Pretty much full season to go and decent Conference league draw with all games remaining.

[Rory Mcilroy]

The German style is much better suited to us imo. Mini Klopp over Mini Pep. 

 

Wildcard shout - Mike Tullberg. Coached Dortmund youth for years, still speaks fondly of the club and Edinburgh. Black mark is that he hasnt managed senior pros but at 38 he’s young and has a bit of potential. Read Frankfurt were considering him last year too. Maybe chuck in Sir Paul as assistant.

 

[hearts00]

The huge problem for the board here is no one wants one of the old guard/network crew. 
 

The phrase time to think out the box will be used. We will end up then with some unknown maybe with little experience and

it will be a complete gamble.

 

Mind you Naismith was a complete gamble with no experience.  

[The Maroon Jacket]

Ex Norwich City David Wagner is free experienced manager at a good level

[tcjambo]

Des Buckingham but doubt he would come.

[hmfc1440]

This Board have never so much as lifted a phone when seeking a new Manager - it's truly diabolical & keeps Hearts in a neverending cycle of build, crash, build, crash, build, crash, etc.. I mean, if you're the Chair surely it's easier to appoint a consultant or director with expertise to carry out the work rather go through this perennial disastrous & ultimately failed process? Is everyone around her saying it's working out just fine? If they keep appointing inhouse we'll be back here fast, and it's worth pointing out that in future there may not be any highs without a Shankland, so the turnaround will be shorter between build & crash.

[SpruceBringsteen]

Someone who hasn't heard of xG or inverted full backs. Just give me a manager that sends his best eleven out to beast the opposition. We're never ever ever going to be Real Madrid, and it cannot be ****ing hard to make us flat track bullies to the other 9 teams in the league and sometimes beat the old firm. Give me "big physical Hearts" but make it reality instead of a fever dream of morons.

[gregzy2k7]

10 minutes ago, Howdy Doody Jambo said:

Ex Norwich City David Wagner is free experienced manager at a good level

He would be a fantastic appointment, 100% Would take him , but wages might be an issue though.

[mr fox]

30 minutes ago, Nerja Jambo said:

Strangely when Stendal got Barnsley promoted they had the best defensive record in the league.

Fact 

[mr fox]

27 minutes ago, Diego10 said:

Don't really care what he done with Barnsley, he was absolutely clueless here

I seen enough to suggest he would have done well given the right players in.

 

[tcjambo]

Getting a Sporting Director is first priority then having a proper competitive selection process for head coach. I wouldn't rule out Paulo as SD. I think we would have to dangle one out of contract striker as an enticement. From Scottish managers only Robinson and Doherty are any good. Any OF connections should automatically rule some out.

[Morgan]

4 hours ago, rudi must stay said:

Wouldn't mind Paul Hartley or Barry Ferguson 

Barry Ferguson.   

[Masonic]

is harty harry available? anythin better than this crap.

 

 

[sandylejambo]

No manager has left Hearts and made a successful step up to a bigger club, we always seem to have clueless clowns in charge.

[Bongo 1874]

Kjetil Knutsen.

Kim Hellberg.

Valérien Ismaël.

Jacob Friis.

Daniel Stendel.

David Wagner.

Suggested so far.

Edited September 1, 2024 by Bongo 1874

[Sertse]

Teams with managers we should definitely look at: 

St Johnstone

Ayr United

Tampa Bay

Rapid Bucharest

 

[Diego10]

6 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Kjeti Knutsen.

Kim Hellberg.

Valérien Ismaël.

Jacob Friis.

Daniel Stendel.

David Wagner.

Suggested so far.

As well getting chat gpt to suggest 5 random foreign coaches

[parker]

Mike Tullberg doing well with Dortmund youth.

[stevie1874]

5 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

Kjetil Knutsen.

Kim Hellberg.

Valérien Ismaël.

Jacob Friis.

Daniel Stendel.

David Wagner.

Suggested so far.

With absolutely no hope of any coming to Hearts. 

[Bongo 1874]

Just now, Diego10 said:

As well getting chat gpt to suggest 5 random foreign coaches

I would keep Naismith if he binned the 6 I've mentioned and played a settled 4231 formation.

 

With the kids Like Pollock,Tait,Wilson,McLuckie moving into first team,that i could accept,I could accept top6 now if we promote the 4 youth now.

 

And bin the likes of Grant,Mckay,Forrest,Boyce, Halkett,Atkinson already binned.

 

That I can accept,because we are actively trying to improve our team through youth,what I can't accept is pros taking the piss and ain't good enough.

[Arfur]

Highly doubtful we would get him but I would like to see the club have some ambition and at least enquire about Knutsen and if he is remotely interested pull together our best package available to secure him

[Diego10]

2 minutes ago, Arfur said:

Highly doubtful we would get him but I would like to see the club have some ambition and at least enquire about Knutsen and if he is remotely interested pull together our best package available to secure him

Why on earth would he be?

[gregzy2k7]

I think also what people have to realise is wages and budget,

 

We are not going to get guys like Knutsen, Moyes or Neil imo

 

They are just too far out of our wage structure,

 

Our first mission should be to advertise the job officially and see who applies,

 

The 2nd thing we should do is have a look at the Scandinavian leagues, mainly Sweden, Norway, Denmark etc and have a look to see if there is a manager that fits what we want to do and that has been successful but is still within our budget and wage structure, if we can get someone like that, then that would be my preferred option,

 

However if we fail to attract someone like that, then I think we would probably be silly not to consider Mcinnes or Robinson as back up options.

 

My list would be something like this,

 

1. No1 Target 

2. No2 Target

3. Mcinnes 

4. Robinson

 

[NannyMaroon]

Didier Digard

Urs Fisher

Marcel Rapp

Kim Hellberg