New Manager - Critchley confirmed

[joondalupjambo]

1 minute ago, dhalljambo15 said:

How’s aberdeen and hibs got it then?

Pay day loans?

[mr fox]

1 hour ago, Jamb04life said:

Right then; assuming the board make a decision over the coming days, who would everyone like? Scottish manger? English manager? Something different? 

German coach for me 

Not sure who but I like the way they play.

Not Scottish they are all crap and don’t know who to play properly. Can’t think of many English managers that did well up here. 
 

I want to see attaching football and a team that can score goals. 

[Rudy T]

Was there not stories kicking about at the time of his appointment that Savage didn’t want Naismith? Is there perhaps more to his leaving than is being reported?

[Gorgiewave]

Neil Warnock for me. He has the pedigree.

[bawheed]

1 minute ago, lost in space said:

We NEED to appoint a reliable DoF/SD first. He needs to be part of the process.

No point in bringing in a new coach - then finding the new DoF doesn't appreciate him.

ANDREW MCKINLAY - WHERE ARE YOU???

You are aware a lot of prospective managers won’t work for a club with a DF as they see it undermines there position.

Sure Anne will either have a manager or DF

in mind who will tilt the knee to her.

[Henroddy]

6 minutes ago, dhalljambo15 said:

How’s aberdeen and hibs got it then?

Guessing Aberdeen's money comes from the sale of their striker. Hibs from their rich benefactor

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

2 minutes ago, Gorgiewave said:

Neil Warnock for me. He has the pedigree.

He’s about 90, he was dreadful at Aberdeen and he’s a total gimp

[dhalljambo15]

9 minutes ago, rudi must stay said:

 

What's so bad about the board. They back managers financially we are well run off the field. It's time we brought in a big name 

They back cheap options

[jamborich]

I’ve applied canny be any worse

[Smithian]

This is why it was dumb not to hire a Sporting Director to replace Joe Savage. 
 

If Naismith were to be canned, it is only non-football people trying to run this search. While they’re all smart people, they didn’t make their money picking out football talent. Who are the top people with football experience outside the coaching staff? Lancefield and Locke? Andy Webster?

 

I know no one could predict this poor effort. But you prepare for the worst, and leaving Savage’s role open is very glaringly dumb at this moment. 

[Rudy T]

4 minutes ago, mr fox said:

German coach for me 

Not sure who but I like the way they play.

Not Scottish they are all crap and don’t know who to play properly. Can’t think of many English managers that did well up here. 
 

I want to see attaching football and a team that can score goals. 

 

I get the theory behind this but what level of German coach would we be able to attract? I feel we’d need to do some extensive research before employing another one I’m not sure we have anyone at the club qualified enough to do that. 
 

It’s no secret Stendal was appointed thanks to this place. The board knew nothing of him and certainly would’ve have featured on any list they had.

 

Did Aberdeen not employ some external agency to get their manager? I really don’t see Ann Budge and co going down that route.

[Gorgiewave]

1 minute ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

He’s about 90, he was dreadful at Aberdeen and he’s a total gimp

Two goals in seven matches (1 D, 6L) from our young, dynamic manager.

Edited September 1, 2024 by Gorgiewave

[Captain Canada]

I definitely want a different approach. 

 

It's so frustrating we have all these top-class facilities but won't invest in a top manager. 

 

I'd go for someone like this guy - https://www.transfermarkt.com/leonardo-jardim/profil/trainer/10682

 

He'd be out of our price range I'm sure, but someone like him who's managed in different leagues and isn't going to need to learn on the job. 

Edited September 1, 2024 by Captain Canada

[ford donald]

3 minutes ago, Rudy T said:

Was there not stories kicking about at the time of his appointment that Savage didn’t want Naismith? Is there perhaps more to his leaving than is being reported?

 

I think there has been a problem there,we will never know,maybe Naismith has wanted Savage gone,who knows.

[Hearts of Vladland]

Yuriy Vernydub would be someone worth looking at.

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

2 minutes ago, Gorgiewave said:

Two goals in seven matches (1 D, 6L) from our young, dynamic manager.

Oh, I’m Naismith out massively. But Warnock isn’t the answer 

[gar jambo]

1 hour ago, Debut 4 said:

Make the change now and don’t throw the new man under the bus when it’s got even worse being we’re mired in bad form and half a season in. 

Hartley and McCann together 

[CostaJambo]

1 hour ago, Rick Sanchez said:

Ask David Weir for some Brighton candidates.

Probably as good a place as any to take advice. Unfortunately there is no chance our board will either A - Do anything for the foreseeable future, or B - Do something sensible like this.

[allystrachan]

6 minutes ago, Smithian said:

This is why it was dumb not to hire a Sporting Director to replace Joe Savage. 
 

If Naismith were to be canned, it is only non-football people trying to run this search. While they’re all smart people, they didn’t make their money picking out football talent. Who are the top people with football experience outside the coaching staff? Lancefield and Locke? Andy Webster?

 

I know no one could predict this poor effort. But you prepare for the worst, and leaving Savage’s role open is very glaringly dumb at this moment. 

I do agree that a sporting director should be in place for that sort of decision but did Aberdeen not use a football recruitment agency from Germany to source their current manager? Maybe we would need to go down the same route. 

[Smithian]

Just now, allystrachan said:

I do agree that a sporting director should be in place for that sort of decision but did Aberdeen not use a football recruitment agency from Germany to source their current manager? Maybe we would need to go down the same route. 

It’s not a must to have Sporting Director. And McKinlay is a professional who can work with his contacts to backstop a search firm. But still, I’d rather someone hands on with this club who could advise both on a coach’s ability and their fit with their current squad when there is a long season left to make a run at 3rd. 

[Rudy T]

7 minutes ago, ford donald said:

 

I think there has been a problem there,we will never know,maybe Naismith has wanted Savage gone,who knows.

Feels to me like Naismith had one set of ideas about the players we needed and Savage another. The fact we have a squad full of midfielders and no strikers doesn’t suggest a joined up approach.

 

I don’t think Naismith is the type of character to let it go if Savage wasn’t in favour of him. Getting 3rd will have seen a shift in power, and the board has backed Naismith.

[Cochrane123]

Any replacement for me needs to be a manager on their way up rather than someone on the standard SPL merry-go-round or too long in the tooth like Warnock.

 

Also the board (for me) need to be looking at someone who has actively through coaching developed and improved players. An example would be someone like Thorup that Norwich appointed. Came from Nordsjaelland in Denmark who've got a great reputation of developing players and selling on for big money. He's already successfully implemented a new progressive style in the space of about 10 games. Young manager but tactically astute, with proper experience and absolutely on his way up. 

[lost in space]

9 minutes ago, bawheed said:

You are aware a lot of prospective managers won’t work for a club with a DF as they see it undermines there position.

Sure Anne will either have a manager or DF

in mind who will tilt the knee to her.

If a prospective manager won't work under our chosen DoF - he should be de-selected as a prospect.

I don't think Ann is the problem here.

IMO - we have allowed  Naismith his own way, without check.

He is a newish manager. He answers to nobody.

Where is ANDREW MACKINLAY???

[ford donald]

22 minutes ago, dhalljambo15 said:

How’s aberdeen and hibs got it then?

 

We should have that cash,season tickets sold out,FOH cash flowing in constantly,somebody pissing it out?

[steve89]

Uefa pro-licence coach who has played at a high level, won 5 titles in 8 years and wouldn't cost a lot. I present the idea of David Healy. He must be ready not for a step up.

[ford donald]

2 minutes ago, Rudy T said:

Feels to me like Naismith had one set of ideas about the players we needed and Savage another. The fact we have a squad full of midfielders and no strikers doesn’t suggest a joined up approach.

 

I don’t think Naismith is the type of character to let it go if Savage wasn’t in favour of him. Getting 3rd will have seen a shift in power, and the board has backed Naismith.

 

Probably right,no one else left to question the football side of things.

[Fort Vallance]

2 hours ago, Captain Lithuania said:

Andy Webster 

I'm guessing you're having a laugh because of the along the corridor stuff. But I can say for a fact he'd rattle a few cages in that dressing room. Obviously not the answer though.

[Taffin]

4 minutes ago, lost in space said:

If a prospective manager won't work under our chosen DoF - he should be de-selected as a prospect.

I don't think Ann is the problem here.

IMO - we have allowed  Naismith his own way, without check.

He is a newish manager. He answers to nobody.

Where is ANDREW MACKINLAY???

 

Wasn't it Ann who wanted Naismith?

[Rudy T]

1 minute ago, Cochrane123 said:

Any replacement for me needs to be a manager on their way up rather than someone on the standard SPL merry-go-round or too long in the tooth like Warnock.

 

Also the board (for me) need to be looking at someone who has actively through coaching developed and improved players. An example would be someone like Thorup that Norwich appointed. Came from Nordsjaelland in Denmark who've got a great reputation of developing players and selling on for big money. He's already successfully implemented a new progressive style in the space of about 10 games. Young manager but tactically astute, with proper experience and absolutely on his way up. 

I’m sure there’s an explanation but I’ve never understood why we don’t recruit more players from that sort of the world.

[vegas-voss]

53 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said:

What's wrong with him ?

Like other names suggested he wouldn't come 

[Nerja Jambo]

Northern European for me. Would bring fresh training techniques. Improve fitness levels. Would have had no connection with us or Scottish football and would not live in fear of the old firm. Other than that Paolo Sergio.  

[Toxteth O'Grady]

33 minutes ago, rudi must stay said:

 

What's so bad about the board. They back managers financially we are well run off the field. It's time we brought in a big name 

They bring in incompetent people  and know nothing about football 

[Toxteth O'Grady]

33 minutes ago, rudi must stay said:

 

What's so bad about the board. They back managers financially we are well run off the field. It's time we brought in a big name 

They bring in incompetent people  and know nothing about football 

[Nerja Jambo]

19 minutes ago, allystrachan said:

I do agree that a sporting director should be in place for that sort of decision but did Aberdeen not use a football recruitment agency from Germany to source their current manager? Maybe we would need to go down the same route. 

Any route is better than letting the board loose on this again. Enough is enough of that.

[stirlo]

46 minutes ago, Jambo dans les Pyrenees said:

It’s at times like this that I wonder how Nevio Scala’s english is coming along…

 

First signing should be Hleb's brother.

 

Has Stuart Baxter been mentioned yet?

 

 

[LarrysRightFoot]

The immediate names that spring to mind are McInnes and Neill. 
 

Below that the likes of Robinson may be suggested.

 

I would accept McInnes (there was a time i didn’t want him) as he ticks several boxes - experienced, has won a trophy etc. 

 

However, IMO we should cast our net far and wide and get the best we can afford.

 

I would also like the board to act swiftly (I.e. tomorrow) re the current coaching team as we could be well down the road to appointing a successor once the international break is over. 
 

 

Edited September 1, 2024 by LarrysRightFoot

[lost in space]

Just now, Taffin said:

 

Wasn't it Ann who wanted Naismith?

Possibly. It did seem like a good decision ....... to me.

I wanted him in too.

He started well last season but went downhill near the end - but by that time, we were always going to be third.

Then Savage left.

We didn't replace him.

Since then Naismith has had his way in all football matters - and screwed up BIG time.

Was there a choice- Savage v Naismith?

Probably -  and Board made the wrong decision.

 

[Bungalow Bill]

3 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:

They bring in incompetent people  and know nothing about football 

To be fair, they brought in Cathro and Stendel who were pretty universally wanted by the majority on this forum. 
 

The Levein appointment was a shambles. The Naismith appointment is looking like it could be bad one, but he did do well last year. 
 

The Neilson appointments were both pretty successful all things considered. 

[BillyMurphy]

Ryan Lowe. 

[vegas-voss]

17 minutes ago, steve89 said:

Uefa pro-licence coach who has played at a high level, won 5 titles in 8 years and wouldn't cost a lot. I present the idea of David Healy. He must be ready not for a step up.

Just read about him was on the verge of going to Raith Rovers but had 2nd thoughts and signed a new deal with Linfield.

[Nerja Jambo]

I've said before that we should be ring fencing the FoH money and pay a salary of up to £1.5 if need be. That money should have been ring fenced years ago and then people would see where it goes and might even encourage more to join, or rejoin in my case.

[liam11]

Completely outwith Scottish Football or Hearts.

Perhaps having no director of football in place might mean more candidates interested 

[jambo since 1960]

Steven Naismith for me

[vegas-voss]

10 minutes ago, Nerja Jambo said:

Northern European for me. Would bring fresh training techniques. Improve fitness levels. Would have had no connection with us or Scottish football and would not live in fear of the old firm. Other than that Paolo Sergio.  

Kasper Hjulmand out of work probably doesn't need a job though

[lost in space]

2 minutes ago, liam11 said:

Completely outwith Scottish Football or Hearts.

Perhaps having no director of football in place might mean more candidates interested 

True, more candidates.

I know that I would much rather go to a company where I didn't have a boss.

Do we only want candidates who won't work under a boss though (like Naismith)?

[Skye1874]

35 minutes ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

Oh, I’m Naismith out massively. But Warnock isn’t the answer 

Definitely not. Even before his disastrous Aberdeen spell

[Watt-Zeefuik]

Graham Potter and David Moyes would be the longest of shots of course but if I were the board I'd still call their agents just to see if they fancied it. Worst thing that happens is they say no.

 

Eva Olid, David Healy, and McInnes would all be fine with me. One obviously the safe pick, the other two worth a punt.

 

Never been a fan of the Alex Neil chat, unless he phoned us saying he really wanted it. Feels like he's only be halfway in it.

 

For interim, I'd honestly let Craig Gordon take over as player manager though.

[Mosher007]

1 hour ago, Sherbet said:

If stendel.had CG we would not have been demoted

You on drugs?

[Dia Liom]

Sergio with Robbo in as striking coach and JJ DoF 

[Jeff]

1 minute ago, Mosher007 said:

You on drugs?

 

It's not actually that bad a shout considering the number of goals El Gato chucked in the net. Defense must have been a nervous wreck with him behind them.