Spookie Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Apparently looking to invest in us in some capacity Anyone heard the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valois No1 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 I’m sure there was a post a month or two ago that their chairman wanted to invest in us. Wasn’t much details though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 The same way they did with Hibs a few years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 7 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: The same way they did with Hibs a few years ago? Yeh apparently they weren't to impressed with them and hibs went with Foley I think Brighton have one of the best scouting systems in the EPL so even if it was a link up for players I'd be happy My Laddie says there is rumours on Twitter we may be getting a Brighton forward on loan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Just now, Spookie said: Yeh apparently they weren't to impressed with them and hibs went with Foley I think Brighton have one of the best scouting systems in the EPL so even if it was a link up for players I'd be happy My Laddie says there is rumours on Twitter we may be getting a Brighton forward on loan Cochrane and Offiah recently, so not beyond the realms of possibility. I’d take Joshua Duffus. I know nothing about him but his name and that he plays for Brighton, but his name would mean the boo boys wouldn’t have to strain their impatient brain cells to think of a moniker. Wasn’t Sarmiento weirdly linked with Aberdeen earlier in the window? Imagine… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Would take that Mitoma boy on a season long loan tbf 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 1 minute ago, BackOfTheNet said: Cochrane and Offiah recently, so not beyond the realms of possibility. I’d take Joshua Duffus. I know nothing about him but his name and that he plays for Brighton, but his name would mean the boo boys wouldn’t have to strain their impatient brain cells to think of a moniker. Wasn’t Sarmiento weirdly linked with Aberdeen earlier in the window? Imagine… My knowledge of the EPL players is poor hence why I'm always bottom of the fantasy league Is Davie Weir no their sporting director or something similar I.e head of recruitment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bruno Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Funnily enough, I was speaking to a Hibs fans over in Germany at the Euros and he told me he'd heard we were getting investment from Brighton. He also told me we were signing Ryan Jack so I thought it was nonsense but you never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 minute ago, Spookie said: My knowledge of the EPL players is poor hence why I'm always bottom of the fantasy league Is Davie Weir no their sporting director or something similar I.e head of recruitment Yeah, Weir is SD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 4 minutes ago, Big Bruno said: Funnily enough, I was speaking to a Hibs fans over in Germany at the Euros and he told me he'd heard we were getting investment from Brighton. He also told me we were signing Ryan Jack so I thought it was nonsense but you never know. I'm sorry to hear that mate hope it didn't ruin Germany for you 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris5115 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Tony Bloom and Brighton rumour was mentioned a few months ago. I'm guessing there's nothing in it. Would it be a good thing or a bad thing I have no idea but to progress I do believe we need some serious investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC_92 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 27 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: Cochrane and Offiah recently, so not beyond the realms of possibility. I’d take Joshua Duffus. I know nothing about him but his name and that he plays for Brighton, but his name would mean the boo boys wouldn’t have to strain their impatient brain cells to think of a moniker. Wasn’t Sarmiento weirdly linked with Aberdeen earlier in the window? Imagine… From a brief look it seems they're about to send Amario Cozier-Duberry (winger) on loan. They just signed him from Arsenal and he scored a couple in pre-season. You'd think a Championship club is more likely though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 How sad is it that there are even rumours that a small parochial club like Brighton can be linked with "investing" in the 3rd biggest team in Scotland and who are a substantially bigger club than them. Just shows you the power of the EPL £billions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hearts_fan Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 I hope not. Independence from other clubs please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris5115 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 7 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said: How sad is it that there are even rumours that a small parochial club like Brighton can be linked with "investing" in the 3rd biggest team in Scotland and who are a substantially bigger club than them. Just shows you the power of the EPL £billions. Correct it's a different world down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 8 minutes ago, Hearts_fan said: I hope not. Independence from other clubs please. After what we’ve been through, and all the money sunk in by fans, I completely get this approach, however one thing that’s always interested me about Brighton (and USG in Belgium), is how bloody successful their model is, and I’ve always wanted Hearts to be run like that too. Maybe Savage leaving means a different approach to things has opened up, and this could be the next step (if true of course), and if Hibs really knocked back Bloom for Foley, well that would be just another classic example of “Hibsing it” We afford to compete with the bigots on budget, but neither could USG in Belgium, or Brighton in England, afford to compete with the top clubs in their league, but they’re doing it. I genuinely hope there’s something in it, but also something to safeguard the club too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 hour ago, Spookie said: Yeh apparently they weren't to impressed with them and hibs went with Foley I think Brighton have one of the best scouting systems in the EPL so even if it was a link up for players I'd be happy My Laddie says there is rumours on Twitter we may be getting a Brighton forward on loan David Weir usually sees us ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 29 minutes ago, DC_92 said: From a brief look it seems they're about to send Amario Cozier-Duberry (winger) on loan. They just signed him from Arsenal and he scored a couple in pre-season. You'd think a Championship club is more likely though. He would be quite a loan signing. Doubt it will be us though. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rods Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 I want us to have nothing to do with partnerships with EPL individual EPL clubs. We should look to loan players from EPL clubs but not limit our options Thankfully we own our club and are not desperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brawlad74 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Getting a player from another club on loan is fine as is learning from them i.e scouting but not happy with thought of another club investing in us. Individual investment is fine but we don't want to be beholding to any other club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleLafferty Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 32 minutes ago, DC_92 said: From a brief look it seems they're about to send Amario Cozier-Duberry (winger) on loan. They just signed him from Arsenal and he scored a couple in pre-season. You'd think a Championship club is more likely though. If hearts managed to get him that would be so good. He plays extremely like Saka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris5115 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 7 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: David Weir usually sees us ok. Weir more likely to get him to Ibroke oh sorry Hampdump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 28 minutes ago, Hearts_fan said: I hope not. Independence from other clubs please. This for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Sharing transfer info with Brighton is a no brainer IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gillsland jack Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 17 minutes ago, The Old Tolbooth said: After what we’ve been through, and all the money sunk in by fans, I completely get this approach, however one thing that’s always interested me about Brighton (and USG in Belgium), is how bloody successful their model is, and I’ve always wanted Hearts to be run like that too. Maybe Savage leaving means a different approach to things has opened up, and this could be the next step (if true of course), and if Hibs really knocked back Bloom for Foley, well that would be just another classic example of “Hibsing it” We afford to compete with the bigots on budget, but neither could USG in Belgium, or Brighton in England, afford to compete with the top clubs in their league, but they’re doing it. I genuinely hope there’s something in it, but also something to safeguard the club too. I agree, Brighton are a very well run club, mainly due to a very successful businessman, if all our due diligence is done and the powers that be, deem it a smart move, then maybe it could be a clever move but lets face it, the FOH will never lose control of the club, that has to be in tablets of stone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 hour ago, Spookie said: Yeh apparently they weren't to impressed with them and hibs went with Foley I think Brighton have one of the best scouting systems in the EPL so even if it was a link up for players I'd be happy My Laddie says there is rumours on Twitter we may be getting a Brighton forward on loan Watched a good video before talking about Brighton's success in the transfer market. The interesting point it made is their scouting is decent but the players it signs are well known to bigger clubs so they are not finding players no one knew about. The key to their success is when they buy and how they develop and intergrate the player into the first team. So they often buy a player earlier to ensure they get them, then will send the player out on loan (but making sure that its the right club, which can often be the club they bought them from.) After that they will carefully build up game time till the person ahead of them is sold. Certainly seems to be closer co-operation between us and Brighton with Cochrane and Offiah coming to us, plus there has been rumours that Brighton (through David Weir) alerted us to a few players like Vargas as they decided not to move for them but had watched them 37 minutes ago, Boris5115 said: Tony Bloom and Brighton rumour was mentioned a few months ago. I'm guessing there's nothing in it. Would it be a good thing or a bad thing I have no idea but to progress I do believe we need some serious investment. Yeah there has been a few rumours on here over the last few months that it is Tony Bloom rather than Brighton who are looking to buy a minority stake in the club. I am a bit conflicted on it (if it is true) as he has overseen a well run Brighton who have made been fantastic with recruitment and allow them to punch way above their weight, but I dont want Hearts to be like Hibs and become part of a multi club group. If Tony Bloom invested but the two clubs stayed separate (or have a independent partnership) then I would feel more comfortable about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philfigo Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Independent investment yes, part of a group structure of clubs absolutely no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lovecraft Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Give us Billy Gilmour to show us you are serious, or GTF!! 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 This has been rumoured for quite a while on here and it’s been suggested scoring information may have been shared re our central & South American signings. Re independence, I agree but also believe we have a board that wouldn’t jeopardise the club and would trust they with any deal. Also would FoH members get to vote on any deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horatio Caine Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Just now, Lovecraft said: Give us Billy Gilmour to show us you are serious, or GTF!! 😉 Failing that, I see they're about to sign Matt O'Riley from Celtic. We'd take a wee loan deal.. Oh wait - we're already top heavy with midfielders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Sanchez Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 If he wants to give us some sponsorship and some scouting knowledge then fine by me. Even players deemed not good enough for Brighton but that they want to keep an eye on is fine by me. I've got a feeling it's the same rumour being spread about and it's still going though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 It's a no from me. Only Hearts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo314 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 hour ago, Spookie said: Yeh apparently they weren't to impressed with them and hibs went with Foley I think Brighton have one of the best scouting systems in the EPL so even if it was a link up for players I'd be happy My Laddie says there is rumours on Twitter we may be getting a Brighton forward on loan Tell yer laddie to stick to playing rugby S 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 42 minutes ago, The Old Tolbooth said: After what we’ve been through, and all the money sunk in by fans, I completely get this approach, however one thing that’s always interested me about Brighton (and USG in Belgium), is how bloody successful their model is, and I’ve always wanted Hearts to be run like that too. Maybe Savage leaving means a different approach to things has opened up, and this could be the next step (if true of course), and if Hibs really knocked back Bloom for Foley, well that would be just another classic example of “Hibsing it” We afford to compete with the bigots on budget, but neither could USG in Belgium, or Brighton in England, afford to compete with the top clubs in their league, but they’re doing it. I genuinely hope there’s something in it, but also something to safeguard the club too. This is my thinking You look at the talent Brighton have brung in and then sold for massive profits whilst still being a very good and stable EPL side USG are the same as you say That's how to run your football club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Panzee Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Not sure if fringe EPL players are ‘all that’ TBH weve had mixed success on that loan front? Ellis Sims v Woodburn, Hill, Mitchell, smith-brown, meshino….? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 4 minutes ago, Jambo314 said: Tell yer laddie to stick to playing rugby S 😁 Dunno what's harder watching rugby or Hearts the now 😬 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Kurtz Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 It was what i posted initially Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Whats in it for us? Whats in it for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 (edited) Would be happy with Bloom investing in us and have a close relationship with Brighton. But I think people's expectations would need tempered, we already achieve best of the rest more regularly than Brighton do so I'm not sure they've that much to teach us, they just have more money to do it at a higher level. I can also see the wheels coming off there in the next couple of years Edited August 24 by Taffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 (edited) I'd love us to get a tie in with an EPL team if it meant we got players that are at championship level or above on loan. None if the utter shite tho, needs to be the players a season or 2 from the first team or settling in. Prefer an Arsenal or Chelsea type team over a Brighton, but most clubs have 1/2 loans so a parent club that gives us preferential loans is a great idea. Brighton Could be relegated in a year or two so unsure how long term we could actually benefit from them. I can't see many of pur players jumping straight to the EPl, but them having first dibs on any transfer isn't an issue as long as they can't lower the fee. Edited August 24 by Bazzas right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 2 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said: I'd love us to get a tie in with an EPL team if it meant we got players that are at championship level or above on loan. None if the utter shite tho, needs to be the players a season or 2 from the first team or settling in. Prefer an Arsenal or Chelsea type team over a Brighton, but most clubs have 1/2 loans so a parent club that gives us preferential loans is a great idea. Brighton Could be relegated in a year or two so unsure how long term we could actually benefit from them. I can't see many of pur players jumping straight to the EPl, but them having first dibs on any transfer isn't an issue as long as they can't lower the fee. Why would you prefer an Arsenal or Chelsea? For competitive purposes, our two best loanees have come from Brighton and Everton in Cochrane and Simms. Woodburn from Liverpool…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 26 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said: Not sure if fringe EPL players are ‘all that’ TBH weve had mixed success on that loan front? Ellis Sims v Woodburn, Hill, Mitchell, smith-brown, meshino….? Would need ti be a bigger team ino, and players close ti first team football. Take Arsenal, guys like Smith Rowles and Nikieth ( sp) were loaned to the championship a few seasonsago, would need t9 be that quality, not guys that will never make it and drop 2 or 3 divisions. The bigger teams loan players out to Belgium, championship even rangers recently- need to be that level imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookie Posted August 24 Author Share Posted August 24 3 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Why would you prefer an Arsenal or Chelsea? For competitive purposes, our two best loanees have come from Brighton and Everton in Cochrane and Simms. Woodburn from Liverpool…… Chelsea could give us 20 of their 42 man squad Ridiculous how many players they have on their books not playing Their wage bill must be frightening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hood09 Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 See if your a billionaire being in football its all ego! This os why I don’t get why one of them wouldn’t look at hearts and see winning the league for a capital city club as an ego booster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 hour ago, soonbe110 said: David Weir usually sees us ok. Became a rocket when he played for the Huns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 35 minutes ago, Jim Panzee said: Not sure if fringe EPL players are ‘all that’ TBH weve had mixed success on that loan front? Ellis Sims v Woodburn, Hill, Mitchell, smith-brown, meshino….? Would need to be a bigger team imo, and players close to first team football. Take Arsenal, guys like Smith Rowles and Nikieth ( sp) were loaned to the championship a few seasonsago, would need t9 be that quality, not guys that will never make it and drop 2 or 3 divisions. The bigger teams loan players out to Belgium, championship even rangers recently- need to be that level imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 7 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Why would you prefer an Arsenal or Chelsea? For competitive purposes, our two best loanees have come from Brighton and Everton in Cochrane and Simms. Woodburn from Liverpool…… Just now, Bazzas right boot said: Would need to be a bigger team imo, and players close to first team football. Take Arsenal, guys like Smith Rowles and Nikieth ( sp) were loaned to the championship a few seasonsago, would need t9 be that quality, not guys that will never make it and drop 2 or 3 divisions. The bigger teams loan players out to Belgium, championship even rangers recently- need to be that level imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 What's Garang Kuol up to nowadays anyway? I'm wary of any loan. The thought of Paul McCallum sends shivers up my spine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarrysRightFoot Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 1 minute ago, Hood09 said: See if your a billionaire being in football its all ego! This os why I don’t get why one of them wouldn’t look at hearts and see winning the league for a capital city club as an ego booster. Ive often thought similar, someone could for a relatively low sum (compared to throwing money at top 5 league clubs) come here buy us, Hibs or Aberdeen and achieve something special. The problem though is the exposure of our league and likelihood of zero return on the ‘investment’. If someone wanted to ‘invest’ in us I’m not sure how it would work with FoH. I can’t foresee a situation us giving up control of the club - potentially the 51%-49% German model but would a billionaire (typically ego centric control freaks) accept that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraggle Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 I hope beyond hope, that we avoid this, modern tie in with EPL club bullsh1t. Just makes the Scottish league even more Mickey Mouse than it already is. Sharing of mutually beneficial information and some resources is fine, it doesn't need to be locked in on paper or share holdings. Being part of anything like Hibs are can properly GTF!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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