Elon Musk

[Dawnrazor]

Just now, Tazio said:

Certainly not, but let’s not pretend that there isn’t a racial motivation to a lot of those shouting loudest. Using a tragic set of repeated circumstances a a stick to further hatred shouldn’t be a thing. It should be from genuine concern for the many victims. 

Of course there will be, but again, let's not forget, men got away with the rape of girls because the police and authorities allowed it because of their race and or religion.

It's disgusting that there will be people who'll take advantage of that, but it's still a fact.

[Ked]

1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said:

Every one should be jailed, but Tazio, not one in that list had their crimes ignored and brushed under the carpet because of their race or religion.

I genuinely like the the posts of most of the folk I don't agree with.

It kind of makes me think and Tazio is a good poster.

But **** me they don't half do the tit for tat sometimes when it's basically there for anyone with half a brain too see what went on.

What's still going on.

And the worst part is for the victims to see the apologising for ****in beasty *******s.

Just because they're Pakistani.

I mean it's wild.

It's like racism allowed n reverse.

1500 hundred children in a place not the size of Edinburgh.

Regurgitated like a taught sickness amongst Pakistani men who were told white children were trash.

That's the truth of it.

Targeted by their skin colour and all you get is Tommy ****in Robinson.

 

Why are the posters on here more offended by musk than these beasts.

Right v wrong 

Na

They prefer right v left politics.

Bewildered 

 

 

 

[Ulysses]

4 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

Every one should be jailed, but Tazio, not one in that list had their crimes ignored and brushed under the carpet because of their race or religion.

 

Didn't the ringleader of the Rochdale abuse get a 22-year prison sentence? 

 

Have a read of this.  I counted 33 people who were put in prison.  I can't say that all of them were Muslim or of Pakistani origin because I haven't looked up all the names, but it kinda looks that way.

 

Rochdale child sex abuse ring - Wikipedia

 

 

[Dawnrazor]

2 minutes ago, Ked said:

I genuinely like the the posts of most of the folk I don't agree with.

It kind of makes me think and Tazio is a good poster.

But **** me they don't half do the tit for tat sometimes when it's basically there for anyone with half a brain too see what went on.

What's still going on.

And the worst part is for the victims to see the apologising for ****in beasty *******s.

Just because they're Pakistani.

I mean it's wild.

It's like racism allowed n reverse.

1500 hundred children in a place not the size of Edinburgh.

Regurgitated like a taught sickness amongst Pakistani men who were told white children were trash.

That's the truth of it.

Targeted by their skin colour and all you get is Tommy ****in Robinson.

 

Why are the posters on here more offended by musk than these beasts.

Right v wrong 

Na

They prefer right v left politics.

Bewildered 

 

 

 

Yep.

 

[Ked]

11 minutes ago, Tazio said:

Certainly not, but let’s not pretend that there isn’t a racial motivation to a lot of those shouting loudest. Using a tragic set of repeated circumstances a a stick to further hatred shouldn’t be a thing. It should be from genuine concern for the many victims. 

There was racial motivation for the rape of children.

And are you suggesting the victims calling for the enquiry are racist.

Was Jack Straw.

Imo if Labour ran councils or Labour politicians or god forbid folk like you got on board and called out this .

Which by the way was a racially motivated crime(have you ever read the evidence of the victims ?)

Then ****wits like musk ribinsonson garage wouldn't have exploited it.

 

[Dawnrazor]

Just now, Ulysses said:

 

Didn't the ringleader of the Rochdale abuse get a 22-year prison sentence? 

 

Have a read of this.  I counted 33 people who were put in prison.  I can't say that all of them were Muslim or of Pakistani origin because I haven't looked up all the names, but it kinda looks that way.

 

Rochdale child sex abuse ring - Wikipedia

 

 

Yes, people were eventually jailed, but the crux of this is is that hundreds of not thousands of young girls suffered rape and abuse by men for years because the police and authorities tuned a blind eye because of the perpetrators race or religion.

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said:

Yes, people were eventually jailed, but the crux of this is is that hundreds of not thousands of young girls suffered rape and abuse by men for years because the police and authorities tuned a blind eye because of the perpetrators race or religion.

The police and authorities were probably involved in it, too.

[Dawnrazor]

Just now, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

The police and authorities were probably involved in it, too.

I've no idea if that's true, but they allowed it to happen for years after they had the power to stop it.

[Ked]

2 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

Didn't the ringleader of the Rochdale abuse get a 22-year prison sentence? 

 

Have a read of this.  I counted 33 people who were put in prison.  I can't say that all of them were Muslim or of Pakistani origin because I haven't looked up all the names, but it kinda looks that way.

 

Rochdale child sex abuse ring - Wikipedia

 

 

Yes.

But read the anecdotes of the victims.

They had too witness those who raped them repeatedly and with more than one man walk the streets after **** all.

 

Uly don't .

Please FFS .

If there is any argument here don't take sides politically.

It's another example of the state taking sides against predominantly girl children .

A ****in gain mate.

Musk is a wank .

Don't let's turn it into that wank .

 

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

Just now, Dawnrazor said:

I've no idea if that's true, but they allowed it to happen for years after they had the power to stop it.

I don't believe for a second anyone is protecting Muslims.

They're obviously protecting themselves.

[Tazio]

3 minutes ago, Ked said:

There was racial motivation for the rape of children.

And are you suggesting the victims calling for the enquiry are racist.

Was Jack Straw.

Imo if Labour ran councils or Labour politicians or god forbid folk like you got on board and called out this .

Which by the way was a racially motivated crime(have you ever read the evidence of the victims ?)

Then ****wits like musk ribinsonson garage wouldn't have exploited it.

 

If your second sentence is what you took from my post you need to seriously work on your interpretation skills. 

[Ked]

6 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

Yep.

 

I'm off mate.

I cannot stand the ignorance of those who will argue for beasts.

 

[Dawnrazor]

Just now, Ked said:

I'm off mate.

I cannot stand the ignorance of those who will argue for beasts.

 

Aye, there has to be a limit, some have crossed it.

[Diadora Van Basten]

8 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

Yes, people were eventually jailed, but the crux of this is is that hundreds of not thousands of young girls suffered rape and abuse by men for years because the police and authorities tuned a blind eye because of the perpetrators race or religion.

That is true I have read Girl A the book written by one of the victims. The hero of the book is the woman from the sexual health clinic who urged the girls to write down their evidence that was eventually used to get the perpetrators convicted. Girl A doesn’t have a lot of time for the EDL who she regarded as opportunists using the situation to further their politics the same as Musk is now doing.

Edited January 6 by Diadora Van Basten

[Ulysses]

4 minutes ago, Ked said:

 

Bewildered 

 

 

Indeed, Ked, but that's hardly the point, is it?

 

What about the people who were put in the slammer?  Are we just meant to ignore them so that we can feel angry and bewildered?  

 

 

1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said:

Yes, people were eventually jailed, but the crux of this is is that hundreds of not thousands of young girls suffered rape and abuse by men for years because the police and authorities tuned a blind eye because of the perpetrators race or religion.

 

In July 2022 there were a set of major reports into institutional child abuse across England and Wales - look up the reports of the IICSA.  They set out in stark terms how various individuals and organised networks were able to prey on children for years and decades without fear of intervention by the law.  You can try counting the number of victims and potential victims if you have the time.  All or nearly all of the perpetrators were white, British and either Anglican or Roman Catholic.  Their enablers were the same, and many of them were funded by the taxpayer while they were doing their enabling.  Almost none of them were ever jailed or even got their collars felt. 

 

Reports | IICSA Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse

[Ked]

1 minute ago, Diadora Van Basten said:

That is true I have read Girl A the book written by one of the victims. The hero of the book is the woman from the sexual health clinic who urged the girls to write down their evidence that was eventually used to get the perpetrators convicted. She doesn’t have a lot of time for the EDL who she regarded as opportunists the same as Musk is now doing.

Sound mate.

If you read that book as I did then you ken bud

[Ked]

1 minute ago, Ulysses said:

 

Indeed, Ked, but that's hardly the point, is it?

 

What about the people who were put in the slammer?  Are we just meant to ignore them so that we can feel angry and bewildered?  

 

 

 

In July 2022 there were a set of major reports into institutional child abuse across England and Wales - look up the reports of the IICSA.  They set out in stark terms how various individuals and organised networks were able to prey on children for years and decades without fear of intervention by the law.  You can try counting the number of victims and potential victims if you have the time.  All or nearly all of the perpetrators were white, British and either Anglican or Roman Catholic.  Their enablers were the same, and many of them were funded by the taxpayer while they were doing their enabling.  Almost none of them were ever jailed or even got their collars felt. 

 

Reports | IICSA Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse

Uly I'm out .

It makes me rage this shit and I'm likely to get banned.

There imo should be no argument.

 

[Dawnrazor]

Just now, Ulysses said:

 

Indeed, Ked, but that's hardly the point, is it?

 

What about the people who were put in the slammer?  Are we just meant to ignore them so that we can feel angry and bewildered?  

 

 

 

In July 2022 there were a set of major reports into institutional child abuse across England and Wales - look up the reports of the IICSA.  They set out in stark terms how various individuals and organised networks were able to prey on children for years and decades without fear of intervention by the law.  You can try counting the number of victims and potential victims if you have the time.  All or nearly all of the perpetrators were white, British and either Anglican or Roman Catholic.  Their enablers were the same, and many of them were funded by the taxpayer while they were doing their enabling.  Almost none of them were ever jailed or even got their collars felt. 

 

Reports | IICSA Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse

But children were allowed to be raped by a group of men because the police and authorities allowed it to happen because of their race and religion.

They police and authorities have admitted and apologised Ully!

 

[Ulysses]

5 minutes ago, Ked said:

 

 

Uly don't .

Please FFS .

 

 

 

Ked, it's all well and good getting angry, but anger doesn't actually fix the problems and doesn't prevent them happening again.  That's a harsh fact of life, but it's just how it is.

 

And even if Musk was right - which he isn't - he's still a ketamine-fuelled dickhead trying to use sexual abuse to score political brownie points with other ****s who only care about victims when it suits them.

 

It's not enough - and not useful - to just get angry and yell that something ought to be done.  If you want to ask serious questions, useful questions, ask why the recommendations the IICSA made two and a half years ago haven't been implemented.

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

1 minute ago, Dawnrazor said:

But children were allowed to be raped by a group of men because the police and authorities allowed it to happen because of their race and religion.

They police and authorities have admitted and apologised Ully!

 

Again, those police and politicians were protecting themselves.

The head of state even willingly hangs about with and befriends paedophiles.

[Ulysses]

3 minutes ago, Ked said:

 

rage

 

 

 

Meh.  **** rage.  Like I said:

 

Just now, Ulysses said:

 

It's not enough - and not useful - to just get angry and yell that something ought to be done.  If you want to ask serious questions, useful questions, ask why the recommendations the IICSA made two and a half years ago haven't been implemented.

 

[Dawnrazor]

Just now, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

Again, those police and politicians were protecting themselves.

The head of state even willingly hangs about with and befriends paedophiles.

The police and authorities were allowing gangs of predominantly Pakistani & Bangladeshi men to rape young girls.

Are you saying that this was allowed to happen because all the police, politicians and MP's and social workers were all raping young girls too? Really?

[Ulysses]

3 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

But children were allowed to be raped by a group of men because the police and authorities allowed it to happen because of their race and religion.

They police and authorities have admitted and apologised Ully!

 

 

But children were allowed to be raped by a group of men because the police and authorities allowed it to happen because they were connected to senior establishment figures and leaders of the Christian churches in England and Wales.

 

I don't even know if anyone has apologised for that, Dawnrazor.

 

 

Is that in some way better?  

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

Just now, Dawnrazor said:

The police and authorities were allowing gangs of predominantly Pakistani & Bangladeshi men to rape young girls.

Are you saying that this was allowed to happen because all the police, politicians and MP's and social workers were all raping young girls too? Really?

Bingo.

[Ked]

9 minutes ago, Tazio said:

If your second sentence is what you took from my post you need to seriously work on your interpretation skills. 

Aye probably.

I get wound up from this and it's not because I'm racist.

Which given I'm nearly 60 is probably true.

But I am sick of enquiries of those with a political power being allowed or get away with what affects not only the victims but society.

Imo the most influencial detrimental effect on everyone's life is the abuse of children.

It fills our jail's with the victims of it.

It affects the mothers especially of our society.

I'm getting a bit deep now so like I said I need to go

 

[Dawnrazor]

Just now, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

Bingo.

😂😂😂 Away you ya tube!

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

Just now, Dawnrazor said:

😂😂😂 Away you ya tube!

Social workers is probably taking it too far. Most of them won't have gone to public school.

[Dawnrazor]

Just now, Ulysses said:

 

But children were allowed to be raped by a group of men because the police and authorities allowed it to happen because they were connected to senior establishment figures and leaders of the Christian churches in England and Wales.

 

I don't even know if anyone has apologised for that, Dawnrazor.

 

 

Is that in some way better?  

No, of course it isn't, but it doesn't take away from the fact that race and religion were the reason that young girls were being raped and a blind eye turned.

I'm not sure where you're coming from with this Uly? The police and authorities have admitted an apologised for it.

 

[I P Knightley]

4 hours ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

My opinion of Musk has been low for years and years, going back to his union busting and his bypassing safety engineering on his self-driving vehicles, but I think I have some idea why he's gone particularly loony this week.

 

Trump's loyal MAGA toadies, like those involved in Project 2025 (which Trump knows nothing about but whose authors all seem strangely involved in his transition and future admin), hate immigrants and want to shut down all the programs that sponsor them, full stop. But Musk's companies rely heavily on H-1B visas, which allow for companies to sponsor highly trained immigrants. Musk recruits them, overworks them, lays them off to satisfy Wall St. when his earnings don't look good or when his robot cars kill another person or explode to satisfy, then repeats.

 

He's gone all-in on opposing H-1B. But this has threatened a "civil war" among the Trumpies between the nativists and the billionaires.

 

Musk's wealth is almost entirely in Tesla stock, which is the memestock extraordinaire. No other major automaker has anything close to it's price-earnings ratio (roughly, the stock value of the company to the amount of money the company acutally makes). GM's PE is around 7, Honda around 8, Toyota just under 10. Tesla's is 120.

 

His original business model was hyping to techies and hippies who wanted the fancy electric car. He did his little performance on Twitter to get them to buy into his uber-genius image. When he started getting ignored on Twitter, he bought the company to sort out the nefarious schemes being used to repress his tweets. When that didn't help he had his engineers build in a an algorithmic booster for his own account.

 

But now his original audience is too "woke" for his union-busting and COVID-precaution-ignoring. So he's found a new crowd to hype, and they're a lot easier to manipulate, it seems. Dance a little with DJT on stage, watch your wealth double! Huzzah!

 

But he can't run Tesla without the H-1Bs. So he can't capitulate there. Instead, he's still going to try to keep his disposable worker pipeline in operation but quadruple down on far right politics to burnish his credentials with them, otherwise they might catch on that he's just using them.

Thanks for posting that W-Z. P/E of 120 would have been common in the dot.com bubble era. Absolutely nuts that it's being applied to a manufacturing company.

 

38 minutes ago, ｕｎｋｎｏｗｎｕｓｅｒ said:

I know of one rape gang, they preyed on children, held satanic rituals, all that bad stuff, but they're white.

I know of one white (ish) old rapist who's been supported by Elon Musk to become President of the USA.

[Ulysses]

Just now, Dawnrazor said:

No, of course it isn't, but it doesn't take away from the fact that race and religion were the reason that young girls were being raped and a blind eye turned.

I'm not sure where you're coming from with this Uly? The police and authorities have admitted an apologised for it.

 

 

Why are we angry about one and not the other?

[Dawnrazor]

10 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

Why are we angry about one and not the other?

I'm angry about both, you seem to be saying it's ok for Pakistani men to rape young girls because white folk have raped young girls too?

*Edit*

Very clumsily put by me, apologies.

But going round in circles and saying "but others have done it too" doesn't make a lot of difference to the girls who suffered the abuse because the powers that be allowed it because of race and religion, that's the girl and the argument here.

Edited January 7 by Dawnrazor

[Ked]

4 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

Ked, it's all well and good getting angry, but anger doesn't actually fix the problems and doesn't prevent them happening again.  That's a harsh fact of life, but it's just how it is.

 

And even if Musk was right - which he isn't - he's still a ketamine-fuelled dickhead trying to use sexual abuse to score political brownie points with other ****s who only care about victims when it suits them.

 

It's not enough - and not useful - to just get angry and yell that something ought to be done.  If you want to ask serious questions, useful questions, ask why the recommendations the IICSA made two and a half years ago haven't been implemented.

I said already he's a *****.

Trumps a *****

But you buy into it from the oppose excusing to a degree those of your choosing.

That's why I nip away on the US thread.

I can't word what I want to say and that's probably why I start effing a ceeimg.

And I accept I'm not educated to a level.

 

 

I used to be when young a healthy socialist.

And I always held to account those who pretended to be more to account.

Because that's the way too stop musklike folks in check.

We now live in a world where it's culture politics rather than the real life of right and wrong.

And where people get away with raping children.

1.

Because they are rich

2.

Because they hold religious power

3.

Because the children are politically expedient.

 

 

[Ked]

9 minutes ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said:

Bingo.

Aye up yer nose .

Dingle

[Dennis Reynolds]

4 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

I'm angry about both, you seem to be saying it's ok for Pakistani men to rape young girls because white folk have raped young girls too?

 

How the **** have you come to that conclusion?

[Ked]

3 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

I'm angry about both, you seem to be saying it's ok for Pakistani men to rape young girls because white folk have raped young girls too?

It's wild.

It's wrong full ****in stop.

 

 

But hey it's only white children.

There's more of them so in proportion it's cool.

Mind white beasts raped more let's let the Pakistani rape children .

[Ked]

Just now, Dennis Reynolds said:

 

How the **** have you come to that conclusion?

Because that's what the comeback is

[Ked]

Not one.

Apart from DVD.

NOT ONE .

Has took the side of white children.

Are they racist?

[Dawnrazor]

Just now, Ked said:

Not one.

Apart from DVD.

NOT ONE .

Has took the side of white children.

Are they racist?

Is Sarah Champion a far right racist?

[Dawnrazor]

Just t clarify, I'm no supporter of Trump or Musk!!

[Ulysses]

9 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

I'm angry about both, you seem to be saying it's ok for Pakistani men to rape young girls because white folk have raped young girls too?

*Edit*

Very clumsily put by me, apologies.

But going round in circles and saying "but others have done it too doesn't make a lot of difference to the girls who suffered the abuse because the powers that be allowed it because of race and religion, that's the girl and the argument here.

 

No.  I'm pointing out that one lot of abusers were brought to justice late, while the other lot of abusers don't seem to have been brought to justice at all.

[ƒιѕнρℓαρѕ]

13 minutes ago, I P Knightley said:

 

I know of one white (ish) old rapist who's been supported by Elon Musk to become President of the USA.

 

Indeed. I expected the group I know of to be all over the papers once sentenced. Sentencing was due last January, then postponed until May, then I never heard any more.

It makes me wonder if it's something that authority just wants to repress in general.

[Ked]

19 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

Ked, it's all well and good getting angry, but anger doesn't actually fix the problems and doesn't prevent them happening again.  That's a harsh fact of life, but it's just how it is.

 

And even if Musk was right - which he isn't - he's still a ketamine-fuelled dickhead trying to use sexual abuse to score political brownie points with other ****s who only care about victims when it suits them.

 

It's not enough - and not useful - to just get angry and yell that something ought to be done.  If you want to ask serious questions, useful questions, ask why the recommendations the IICSA made two and a half years ago haven't been implemented.

Mate.

I am angry about the ****wits not doing nothing.

The Tory didn't.

Musk is an opportunity seeking I dunno what.

 

The point is it's all of us.

We slag off Catholics for their beasts.

The posters on here slag off the royal beasts.

These isles like an awful lot of countries have beasts.

 

All get slagged off on here.

 

But Pakistani beasts.

Na.

It's all shite and yirra a racist if you're angry about gangs of Pakistanis raping by the thousands in plain sight.

I don't care what wanks don't care for children.

They're all wanks.

[Dawnrazor]

Just now, Ulysses said:

 

No.  I'm pointing out that one lot of abusers were brought to justice late, while the other lot of abusers don't seem to have been brought to justice at all.

So, what's that got to do with the police & authorities turning a blind eye to abuse based on race and religion?

[Ked]

6 minutes ago, Dawnrazor said:

Is Sarah Champion a far right racist?

Is Jack Straw 

[Ulysses]

7 minutes ago, Ked said:

Because that's what the comeback is

 

You might think that, Ked, but the clever people won't.    

[Dawnrazor]

Just now, Ked said:

Is Jack Straw 

Apparently they are, Ked, apparently they are, who knew 🤷🤷

[Ked]

2 minutes ago, ｕｎｋｎｏｗｎｕｓｅｒ said:

 

Indeed. I expected the group I know of to be all over the papers once sentenced. Sentencing was due last January, then postponed until May, then I never heard any more.

It makes me wonder if it's something that authority just wants to repress in general.

For ****s sake.

 

[Dawnrazor]

1 minute ago, Ulysses said:

 

You might think that, Ked, but the clever people won't.    

He's kinda right though.

[Ked]

1 minute ago, Ulysses said:

 

You might think that, Ked, but the clever people won't.    

Stop it.

I know I'm not.

But I'm clever enough to realise I'm not uly.

See on this subject.

It's a case of wrong v right buddy

[Mikey1874]

Yeah 

 

What happened with the Asian gangs was a scandal. Lessons learned though.

 

But the vast majority of child abusers something like 9 to 1 are white.