Lawrence Shankland

[RudiSkacelsLeftPeg]

24 minutes ago, tiger Rudi said:

Just a gut feeling, but I think he has been tapped up by Rangers. He has turned down a good offer from Hearts, basically losing money every week since he turned down that contract. He's done that for a reason. A bit risky on his part as a bad injury would scupper him. 

I expect him to sign a pre with them in January. 

Maybe he hoped a good euros would put him in the shop window a bit, but that didn't work out for him either. 

I'm just going to enjoy his final season with us and hope he is bursting a gut to prove Clarke wrong. If he then moves to the club he supports, then so be it. In that scenario I think he will end up back at Tynecastle before his career ends. Rangers will be looking to upgrade on a 30/31 year old Lawrence Shankland fairly quickly I would think. 

Another great goal scoring season incoming, with others contributing more. Bring it on! 

To be fair, it’s the only reason he wouldn’t sign an extended deal with us. Whether it’s the Huns or another club. 

[south morocco]

27 minutes ago, tiger Rudi said:

Just a gut feeling, but I think he has been tapped up by Rangers. He has turned down a good offer from Hearts, basically losing money every week since he turned down that contract. He's done that for a reason. A bit risky on his part as a bad injury would scupper him. 

I expect him to sign a pre with them in January. 

Maybe he hoped a good euros would put him in the shop window a bit, but that didn't work out for him either. 

I'm just going to enjoy his final season with us and hope he is bursting a gut to prove Clarke wrong. If he then moves to the club he supports, then so be it. In that scenario I think he will end up back at Tynecastle before his career ends. Rangers will be looking to upgrade on a 30/31 year old Lawrence Shankland fairly quickly I would think. 

Another great goal scoring season incoming, with others contributing more. Bring it on! 

If he goes to Rangers, he won’t be back here. That ship will have sailed imo. 

[busbyfth]

22 hours ago, chrisyboy7 said:

He's still 28 till August 

Yep - if he was to sign say at the end of July then theoretically hed be 10 days short of 34

[Smithian]

If Hearts are relatively certain he will sign a pre with Rangers, then I would rather them do what they can to sell him this window or in January just get him out the door instead of the awkwardness of yet another Souttar situation.

 

Unfortunately, players have agency here. He may be the issue. 
 

No more captains who may think their level is above Hearts. 

[chrisyboy7]

2 hours ago, We_are_the_Hearts said:

His goals last season were worth £5 million to us, so any less and we would be better just keeping him for the season and saying thanks at the end of his contract. 

It was a team effort not just him

[tiger Rudi]

1 hour ago, Smithian said:

If Hearts are relatively certain he will sign a pre with Rangers, then I would rather them do what they can to sell him this window or in January just get him out the door instead of the awkwardness of yet another Souttar situation.

 

Unfortunately, players have agency here. He may be the issue. 
 

No more captains who may think their level is above Hearts. 

With regard your last sentence. Kent would make an excellent captain, but if he has another good season he will likely attract some suitors too. I've no problem with Shanks as captain, but some would argue that giving it to someone who has committed their immediate future to the club should be the way to go. 

[We_are_the_Hearts]

2 hours ago, Smithian said:

If Hearts are relatively certain he will sign a pre with Rangers, then I would rather them do what they can to sell him this window or in January just get him out the door instead of the awkwardness of yet another Souttar situation.

 

Unfortunately, players have agency here. He may be the issue. 
 

No more captains who may think their level is above Hearts. 

Eh? We need players/captains who want to do really well here and are ambitious to play at the highest level possible no?

[jr ewing]

1 hour ago, chrisyboy7 said:

It was a team effort not just him

Mostly him. 

[tiger Rudi]

9 minutes ago, We_are_the_Hearts said:

Eh? We need players/captains who want to do really well here and are ambitious to play at the highest level possible no?

I would agree, but I can see it from another viewpoint too. Running out at Fester Road beating the badge, getting the young lads to know what it's like to wear the jersey etc, while all the time knowing you're heading off to one of our main rivals shortly is maybe not "captain-like".

That's of course IF he is going to Ibrox. Shanks is very professional and I think he will carry on being so. I don't personally have a problem with him remaining as captain. If his performances dip, that view may change. 

Who knows, he might surprise us and sign an extension. 

[AC Mallin_51]

Rangers are a scum club who buy steel for their stadium off of Temu

[joondalupjambo]

3 hours ago, Smithian said:

If Hearts are relatively certain he will sign a pre with Rangers, then I would rather them do what they can to sell him this window or in January just get him out the door instead of the awkwardness of yet another Souttar situation.

 

Unfortunately, players have agency here. He may be the issue. 
 

No more captains who may think their level is above Hearts. 

Souttar was a pro for us right up until his last game in the Cup Final.  If Shankland signs a pre contract for any club I would expect him to perform to the best of his abilities until he leaves.

[martoon]

1 hour ago, joondalupjambo said:

Souttar was a pro for us right up until his last game in the Cup Final.  If Shankland signs a pre contract for any club I would expect him to perform to the best of his abilities until he leaves.

 

That's my one certainty about this, otherwise, uncertain situation: Shanks will be the professional to the end, even if he does sign a January pre-nup with that horrible club.

 

If a new Hearts contract is not happening then £4-5 million this window or he sees out his current deal. That's how much he will be worth to us by the end of 2024/25.

 

Rangers can shove any lowball offer.

 

Now, or in January.

 

 

Edited July 5, 2024 by martoon

[Ricardo Quaresma]

How can rangers tap him up?

 

They don't even know who their manager's going to be next summer, are people suggesting rangers will sign players and foist them on a manager, like romanov?

 

The world and his dug know clement is likely gone by next summer and they've been acquiring solely players with sell-on potential; they're not getting Shankland this summer so he'll be 30 next August 10th

[A_A wehatethehibs]

Still a Hearts player so lets enjoy this:

 

 

 

What an absolute **** wit Steve Clarke is. Tosser. 🚮

Pick of the bunch is that recent one away at St Mirren for me. But that ER goal will live long in the memory ⚡️☄️🔥

 

[Thomaso]

7 hours ago, We_are_the_Hearts said:

His goals last season were worth £5 million to us, so any less and we would be better just keeping him for the season and saying thanks at the end of his contract. 

Absolutely it’s a no brainer

[Thomaso]

5 hours ago, chrisyboy7 said:

It was a team effort not just him

He was the massive difference

[briever]

7 hours ago, We_are_the_Hearts said:

His goals last season were worth £5 million to us, so any less and we would be better just keeping him for the season and saying thanks at the end of his contract. 

Spot on and I hope if we knock back offers, Shankland doesn't go in the huff - but I think he's far too professional for that.

[jock _turd]

I know I will take pelters but while Shankland has been absolutely great for us the truth is he has had two really good seasons at high level out of his entire high level career. If he goes to Ibrox and has a poor first ten games the fans will be on his back and he will be finished because they will not play him. In short it is easy playing for Hearts but when you move up to the OF things change and if you have a poor start you are in trouble.

[chrisyboy7]

28 minutes ago, Thomaso said:

He was the massive difference

He won't score as many next season 

[jr ewing]

1 minute ago, chrisyboy7 said:

He won't score as many next season 

30 will suffice. 

[RudiSkacelsLeftPeg]

26 minutes ago, jock _turd said:

I know I will take pelters but while Shankland has been absolutely great for us the truth is he has had two really good seasons at high level out of his entire high level career. If he goes to Ibrox and has a poor first ten games the fans will be on his back and he will be finished because they will not play him. In short it is easy playing for Hearts but when you move up to the OF things change and if you have a poor start you are in trouble.

It’s called a footballers prime. Exact same as Paul Hartley. 

[1971fozzy]

18 minutes ago, chrisyboy7 said:

He won't score as many next season 

and you know this how ?

[kingantti1874]

23 minutes ago, chrisyboy7 said:

He won't score as many next season 

think he will score more.  Better service, more players making more space for him. Missed 3 pens as well

[chrisyboy7]

5 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

think he will score more.  Better service, more players making more space for him. Missed 3 pens as well

I dont mean this as a fig.. I think the goals will be spread out and more of them. He will get 20+

[gordon simpson]

7 hours ago, tiger Rudi said:

Just a gut feeling, but I think he has been tapped up by Rangers. He has turned down a good offer from Hearts, basically losing money every week since he turned down that contract. He's done that for a reason. A bit risky on his part as a bad injury would scupper him. 

I expect him to sign a pre with them in January. 

Maybe he hoped a good euros would put him in the shop window a bit, but that didn't work out for him either. 

I'm just going to enjoy his final season with us and hope he is bursting a gut to prove Clarke wrong. If he then moves to the club he supports, then so be it. In that scenario I think he will end up back at Tynecastle before his career ends. Rangers will be looking to upgrade on a 30/31 year old Lawrence Shankland fairly quickly I would think. 

Another great goal scoring season incoming, with others contributing more. Bring it on! 

think you could be right ,if you watch the Hearts v Aberdeen  highlights at the end Connor Barron comes off the pitch talking to Lawrence and both cover their mouths so as no one can read what they are saying .

[GinRummy]

1 hour ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

Still a Hearts player so lets enjoy this:

 

 

 

What an absolute **** wit Steve Clarke is. Tosser. 🚮

Pick of the bunch is that recent one away at St Mirren for me. But that ER goal will live long in the memory ⚡️☄️🔥

 

Clarke’s eyes are painted on. Weegie wank. 

[Dunks]

2 hours ago, GinRummy said:

Clarke’s eyes are painted on. Weegie wank. 

 

He's not a weegie, but otherwise accurate.

[Fxxx the SPFL]

2 hours ago, gordon simpson said:

think you could be right ,if you watch the Hearts v Aberdeen  highlights at the end Connor Barron comes off the pitch talking to Lawrence and both cover their mouths so as no one can read what they are saying .

Pure guesswork watch any game and loads of players walking off cover their mouths

[Rods]

Definitely should not be Captain if he is not signing a new contract.

 

A few times last season he was in a huff and it was not good for the team.

 

Get 20 goals from him and let him move onto Rangers 

[Deevers]

23 minutes ago, Rods said:

Definitely should not be Captain if he is not signing a new contract.

 

A few times last season he was in a huff and it was not good for the team.

 

Get 20 goals from him and let him move onto Rangers 

 
Actually spot on.  We need someone who is totally committed to the club to take the arm band.  I honestly don’t think it’s a good idea to have someone who has one eye on a move away holding that very prestigious role. Sorry Lawrence but it’s really make up your mind in that respect.

[mitch41]

10 hours ago, tiger Rudi said:

Just a gut feeling, but I think he has been tapped up by Rangers. He has turned down a good offer from Hearts, basically losing money every week since he turned down that contract. He's done that for a reason. A bit risky on his part as a bad injury would scupper him. 

I expect him to sign a pre with them in January. 

Maybe he hoped a good euros would put him in the shop window a bit, but that didn't work out for him either. 

I'm just going to enjoy his final season with us and hope he is bursting a gut to prove Clarke wrong. If he then moves to the club he supports, then so be it. In that scenario I think he will end up back at Tynecastle before his career ends. Rangers will be looking to upgrade on a 30/31 year old Lawrence Shankland fairly quickly I would think. 

Another great goal scoring season incoming, with others contributing more. Bring it on! 

And yet the info from a wee pal of mine said it was the length of contract he was offered 2 years where Shanks was looking for a 3 year deal and the money wasn’t the stumbling point. Could this be true, I wonder.

[gordon simpson]

1 hour ago, **** the SPFL said:

Pure guesswork watch any game and loads of players walking off cover their mouths

aye you are right, but made me think as both linked to Sevco 

 

[mitch41]

5 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

Still a Hearts player so lets enjoy this:

 

 

 

What an absolute **** wit Steve Clarke is. Tosser. 🚮

Pick of the bunch is that recent one away at St Mirren for me. But that ER goal will live long in the memory ⚡️☄️🔥

 

We have Lawrence Shankland which is great and that’s all that matters so let’s have less of the doom and gloom, taking the captaincy from him, making out he’s been tapped, he wants to sign for Rangers. I’m just waiting on someone coming out with suggesting Shanks will go on strike unless he gets a move. All these pages about nothing.

[tiger Rudi]

1 hour ago, mitch41 said:

And yet the info from a wee pal of mine said it was the length of contract he was offered 2 years where Shanks was looking for a 3 year deal and the money wasn’t the stumbling point. Could this be true, I wonder.

Well I hope that's not true! Can't really believe it, surely Hearts would gladly have tied him down for a further 3 years. I think him running his contract down in the knowledge Rangers were wanting him is more likely. 

[JFK-1]

6 hours ago, jock _turd said:

I know I will take pelters but while Shankland has been absolutely great for us the truth is he has had two really good seasons at high level out of his entire high level career. 

 

I feel this is exactly why no one from England for example will be spending the fantasy millions we see floated around here on Shankland. They're not impressed by anyone knocking in goals in the SPL for years on end far less two seasons.

 

According to the press Rangers are currently hunting high and low for strikers but everything they're being linked with is a lot younger and will have a sell on value. I don't see them spending millions on a transfer fee for Shankland and I have doubts any Championship side would take the chance on a striker unproven outside Scotland either.

 

With all that in mind we may see him sit out his contract. I don't see him signing another at Hearts before then. 

[Aussie Jambo]

From the rumours The Rangers won’t be anywhere near Shankland so forget that. Decent team to go to. I read this the other day. 
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/lawrence-shankland-signs-west-brom-should-secure-these-shrewd-transfers-before-august-deadline/
 

[tiger Rudi]

40 minutes ago, Aussie Jambo said:

From the rumours The Rangers won’t be anywhere near Shankland so forget that. Decent team to go to. I read this the other day. 
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/lawrence-shankland-signs-west-brom-should-secure-these-shrewd-transfers-before-august-deadline/
 

That's basically West Brom's answer to the Rangers News. Writer most probably a fan who has Shanks on his own wish list. We will all know soon enough, but I still think he will go to Rangers on a free. Gutting I know but nothing we can do about it, if it transpires.

On a side note reading that article I would add that Cedric Kipre would be some signing for us on a free. Kipre and Kent and a fit Halkett would be a frighteningly solid back line! 

[red]

I wonder what Lawrence thinks of the Rangers stance on this…

 

they don’t value him enough to make ANY sort if offer and would rather scout out random European strikers and pay big money for them….But they will “Take him if he’s going for free or cheap’ 

 

Personally I think Lawrence has found his level at Hearts and in the SPL much like Rudi and Robbo. I know money talks but he could become a real legend here on the best wage ever received by any Hearts player in history, be absolutely adored for the next 4-5 years and retire after leaving a real legacy. 

 

Personally I would rather have a legacy similar to what Rudi Skacel has at Hearts than the legacy someone like John Souttar will have…Literally no football fan will ever remember John Souttar in 10 years

 

I’ll be talking about Rudi Skacel to my great grandkids hopefully Lawrence too. 

[kingantti1874]

2 hours ago, red said:

I wonder what Lawrence thinks of the Rangers stance on this…

 

they don’t value him enough to make ANY sort if offer and would rather scout out random European strikers and pay big money for them….But they will “Take him if he’s going for free or cheap’ 

 

Personally I think Lawrence has found his level at Hearts and in the SPL much like Rudi and Robbo. I know money talks but he could become a real legend here on the best wage ever received by any Hearts player in history, be absolutely adored for the next 4-5 years and retire after leaving a real legacy. 

 

Personally I would rather have a legacy similar to what Rudi Skacel has at Hearts than the legacy someone like John Souttar will have…Literally no football fan will ever remember John Souttar in 10 years

 

I’ll be talking about Rudi Skacel to my great grandkids hopefully Lawrence too. 

100% said that before.  I hope he takes into account when time comes. The clearly don’t really want him.  If he does sit it out and go there it would be an extremely stupid move 

[Star Lizard]

14 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

100% said that before.  I hope he takes into account when time comes. The clearly don’t really want him.  If he does sit it out and go there it would be an extremely stupid move 

It would basically be Lafferty all over again imo . For some players like Laff it is all just about being with them though and their value to them matters very little . It is a shame they have such a hold over young people in this country and Northern Ireland . Nobody outside of those shores sees them through tinted glass 

[Rods]

11 hours ago, mitch41 said:

And yet the info from a wee pal of mine said it was the length of contract he was offered 2 years where Shanks was looking for a 3 year deal and the money wasn’t the stumbling point. Could this be true, I wonder.

I hope this is not the case I would hope we were offering him 4 years.

 

A 33 year old Shanks still gets goals it’s. not like he will lose any of his pace.

[Penrices left boot]

2 hours ago, red said:

I wonder what Lawrence thinks of the Rangers stance on this…

 

they don’t value him enough to make ANY sort if offer and would rather scout out random European strikers and pay big money for them….But they will “Take him if he’s going for free or cheap’ 

 

Personally I think Lawrence has found his level at Hearts and in the SPL much like Rudi and Robbo. I know money talks but he could become a real legend here on the best wage ever received by any Hearts player in history, be absolutely adored for the next 4-5 years and retire after leaving a real legacy. 

 

Personally I would rather have a legacy similar to what Rudi Skacel has at Hearts than the legacy someone like John Souttar will have…Literally no football fan will ever remember John Souttar in 10 years

 

I’ll be talking about Rudi Skacel to my great grandkids hopefully Lawrence too. 

 

Probably same as Souttar when rangers refuse to budge on tbe fee.

 

He won't care.

He'll pocket a big signing on fee and take the wages for the next 3 years.

 

Good chance Souttar will be back at us at some point imo.

 

Edited July 6, 2024 by Bazzas right boot

[Penrices left boot]

16 hours ago, A_A wehatethehibs said:

Still a Hearts player so lets enjoy this:

 

 

 

What an absolute **** wit Steve Clarke is. Tosser. 🚮

Pick of the bunch is that recent one away at St Mirren for me. But that ER goal will live long in the memory ⚡️☄️🔥

 

 

The numbers are fantastic,  but the quality is the difference.

Half they goals are at best half chances.

Left, right, outside boot, curlers, volleys, blooters, first time and ofc headers.

 

 

But aye, in a must win game Adams plays ..

 

[Sherbet]

3 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Probably same as Souttar when rangers refuse to budge on tbe fee.

 

He won't care.

He'll pocket a big signing on fee and take the wages for the next 3 years.

 

Good chance Souttar will be back at us at some point imo.

 

Think he will.pass a medical?

[Watt-Zeefuik]

6 hours ago, tiger Rudi said:

That's basically West Brom's answer to the Rangers News. Writer most probably a fan who has Shanks on his own wish list. We will all know soon enough, but I still think he will go to Rangers on a free. Gutting I know but nothing we can do about it, if it transpires.

On a side note reading that article I would add that Cedric Kipre would be some signing for us on a free. Kipre and Kent and a fit Halkett would be a frighteningly solid back line! 

 

To me though it shows the other reason Shanks isn't signing a deal yet. That article clearly isn't anyone with insider knowledge of West Brom, and goodness knows unattached fans make up some delirious crap about whom their clubs might be seeking (hi Bongo!) but at the same time, it's exactly the kind of club that Shanks can reasonably aspire to. One that has £5m in their pockets and for whom Shanks makes sense, and where he might like to go.

 

Of course he could have been tapped up by Rangers. But I don't think the fact that he hasn't signed an extension with us necessarily means that. I'm sure he was hoping for a better shop window showing at the Euros and rightly or wrongly (no, just wrongly) Clarke's lack of faith in him itself will dampen some enthusiasm.

[Walter Bishop]

On 04/07/2024 at 19:14, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

Doing the rounds aye, when?

 

Never heard of that 'offer'

 

Pure nonsense, he was on €8K in Belgium, but you're believing he's on what ATM and being offered £6K?

 

Nonsense and baws

Absolute fantasy stuff. If you think any Hearts player earns over 6k a week you’re delusional. 

[jambo_74]

3 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

The numbers are fantastic,  but the quality is the difference.

Half they goals are at best half chances.

Left, right, outside boot, curlers, volleys, blooters, first time and ofc headers.

 

 

But aye, in a must win game Adams plays ..

 

I still haven't come to terms with this. I have spoken to friends and acquaintances who unfortunately for them support other clubs. In all honesty it was split about fifty-fifty in terms of whether Clarke should continue and what I found more gobsmacking, whether Shankland should have started the games in Germany.

People saying things like Adams was played because he holds up the ball and apparently has the ability to stretch defences. I honestly didn't see him do either of those things. Whilst Shanks may not be as fast as Adams, his movement is fabulous and I would argue that is what stretches defences, not blistering pace in isolation. Shanks from what I have seen is far better at holding the ball up and is also really good at bringing midfielders into the game further up the pitch.

The most annoying slight and excuse used for not starting Shanks was that he was just a penalty box striker and this was from the mouth of a Hibs acquaintance, clearly hasn't watched Shanks closely enough during derby games! Bit of an aside, but because of how badly treated our captain has been, I'm pretty much done with Scotland until Clarke is emptied, which I predict will happen sometime around November this year.

[Walter Bishop]

I think once Dessers is confirmed as away Rangers will move for Shankland. I just hope we have a replacement lined up and we are able to get them in time for season starting. 

[Penrices left boot]

34 minutes ago, Sherbet said:

Think he will.pass a medical?

 

Nah, break the scales.

[jr ewing]

15 minutes ago, Walter Bishop said:

I think once Dessers is confirmed as away Rangers will move for Shankland. I just hope we have a replacement lined up and we are able to get them in time for season starting. 

They can try. They won't succeed.