Edinburgh CC stopping traffic getting to Tynecastle

[The Mercer Takeover]

As the title says, Edinburgh city council are planning major permanent restrictions to traffic from Haymarket to Tynecastle. This will be from 7am to 7pm, 7 days per week.

 

Fresh from destroying businesses and livelihoods in other parts of the city, the eco warriors and their 15 minute cities crap, will now impact folk travelling to the games and eating at the Skyline.

 

In conjunction with reduced parking in the whole Dairy area, this has got disaster written all over it. Traffic going to games will be displaced all over the place.

 

Can you imagine the carnage on game days. Supporters need to put the council back in box here, and don't forget, if you do nothing about it Gorgie will be next.

 

https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/13951/consultation-opens-on-future-dalry-town-centre-proposals

[Oda be a JT]

Walking and public transport (including taxis) can still be used under the proposals

[been here before]

Having read your link, in what way are "the council stopping traffic getting to Tynecastle"?

 

Are you suggesting that the council and "he eco warriors and their 15 minute cities crap" are now setting out to "destroy" Tynecastle and the Skyline as they have "destroyed businesses and livelihoods in other parts of the city"?

Edited June 6, 2024 by been here before

[OTT]

Well, Scott Arthur has put his name to it. Vote him out. 

 

 

Edited June 6, 2024 by OTT

[The Mercer Takeover]

9 minutes ago, been here before said:

Having read your link, in what way are "the council stopping traffic getting to Tynecastle"?

 

Are you suggesting that the council and "he eco warriors and their 15 minute cities crap" are now setting out to "destroy" Tynecastle and the Skyline as they have "destroyed businesses and livelihoods in other parts of the city"?

Nope.

 

It will just gradually happen like everywhere else this mindset has been brought in.

 

[The Mercer Takeover]

17 minutes ago, Oda be a JT said:

Walking and public transport (including taxis) can still be used under the proposals

If we can't easily take and park a car somewhere, such as the Skyline restaurant, which we do a lot, we will find somewhere else to spend our money. 

 

We are just too far away for the hassle of public transport and I guarantee we are not the only ones.

 

 

Edited June 6, 2024 by The Mercer Takeover

[jamboinglasgow]

Just now, The Mercer Takeover said:

If we can can't easily take and park a car somewhere, such as the Skyline restaurant, which we do a lot, we will find somewhere else to spend our money. 

 

We are just too far away for the hassle of public transport and I guarantee we are not the only ones.

 

 

 

Except you can drive to Tynecastle and you can park, you might to just go down a different road to get there.

 

It's one street not the whole of Dalry being closed to traffic for a period of time

[Hungry hippo]

How many people are driving cars to games through the Haymarket junction?

 

Access to Gorgie and Dalry will still be available during these restricted times but just not from Haymarket so even those who do could find another route if really necessary.

 

The impact on Hearts should be minimal IMO.

[FWJ]

Going to file this under “Fancy a trip to the sun - not if you live in Edinburgh you can't”

[hughesie27]

4 minutes ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

If we can't easily take and park a car somewhere, such as the Skyline restaurant, which we do a lot, we will find somewhere else to spend our money. 

 

We are just too far away for the hassle of public transport and I guarantee we are not the only ones.

 

 

You will however be in the significant minority.

Out of curiosity, where do you currently get parked for games?

Edited June 6, 2024 by hughesie27

[FWJ]

3 minutes ago, Hungry hippo said:

How many people are driving cars to games through the Haymarket junction?

 

Access to Gorgie and Dalry will still be available during these restricted times but just not from Haymarket so even those who do could find another route if really necessary.

 

The impact on Hearts should be minimal IMO.

Yup.   Just use the West Approach Road.

Edited June 6, 2024 by FWJ

[Hungry hippo]

15 minutes ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

If we can't easily take and park a car somewhere, such as the Skyline restaurant, which we do a lot, we will find somewhere else to spend our money. 

 

We are just too far away for the hassle of public transport and I guarantee we are not the only ones.

 

 

 

Why can't you use the Western Approach if you're coming from far away?

[been here before]

22 minutes ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

Nope.

 

It will just gradually happen like everywhere else this mindset has been brought in.

 

 

So despite your melodramatic hyperbole you're really just frothing about an imaginary scenario you've put together in your head?

Edited June 6, 2024 by been here before

[Watt-Zeefuik]

11 minutes ago, FWJ said:

Yup.   Just use the West Approach Road.

If you have to take another route to your dinner date, the terrorists have already won.

[The Mercer Takeover]

14 minutes ago, Hungry hippo said:

How many people are driving cars to games through the Haymarket junction?

 

Access to Gorgie and Dalry will still be available during these restricted times but just not from Haymarket so even those who do could find another route if really necessary.

 

The impact on Hearts should be minimal IMO.

Unbelievable.

 

Folk get dropped off and picked up all the time.

 

If you make it difficult to do something, folk stop doing it

[The Mercer Takeover]

1 minute ago, Hungry hippo said:

 

Why can't you use the Western Approach if you're coming from far away?

And where do I park, if this is further restricted from 7 am to 7pm, 7 days per week. 

 

Traffic restrictions always severely impact areas around it. Why don't you look up the carnage introduced on the other side of the city 

[GinRummy]

1 minute ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

Unbelievable.

 

Folk get dropped off and picked up all the time.

 

If you make it difficult to do something, folk stop doing it

But I. Your last post you said it’s happening ‘everywhere else’. Folk aren’t just going to stay in. 

[The Maroon Jacket]

30 minutes ago, OTT said:

Well, Scott Arthur has put his name to it. Vote him out. 

 

 

Even if he was voted out another clowncil puppet would spring up and take his place 

They could not organise a piss up in a brewery 

It amazes me how the minority make all the decisions for the majority 

Let's have more referendums and let the cities citizens decide on how it wants to function as they do in other European countries 

[FWJ]

1 minute ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

Unbelievable.

 

Folk get dropped off and picked up all the time.

 

If you make it difficult to do something, folk stop doing it

Brave (or foolhardy) souls driving along Dalry Road just before / after a match - I would be terrified I ran someone over.

If you feel you absolutely must, then simply approach from the west - avoiding the Haymarket area.

Or take a bus.

[The Mercer Takeover]

3 minutes ago, been here before said:

 

So you're frothing about an imaginary scenario you've put together in your head?

The number of people complaining on social media about the carnage in the other side of the city, where this is has already been implemented, is frightening 

[FWJ]

1 minute ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

And where do I park, if this is further restricted from 7 am to 7pm, 7 days per week. 

 

Traffic restrictions always severely impact areas around it. Why don't you look up the carnage introduced on the other side of the city 

I’d love to know where you get parked nice n’ handy close to Tynecastle on a match day.

[kila]

City centre proposals that inconvenience car owners, then reading the car owner posts on forums

 

[The Mercer Takeover]

1 minute ago, FWJ said:

Brave (or foolhardy) souls driving along Dalry Road just before / after a match - I would be terrified I ran someone over.

If you feel you absolutely must, then simply approach from the west - avoiding the Haymarket area.

Or take a bus.

Said by someone who doesn't own a car or have to travel distances to get to Football or the Skyline 

[The Mercer Takeover]

1 minute ago, FWJ said:

I’d love to know where you get parked nice n’ handy close to Tynecastle on a match day.

Talking about the Skyline at that time.

[Dennis Reynolds]

6 minutes ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

And where do I park, if this is further restricted from 7 am to 7pm, 7 days per week. 

 

Traffic restrictions always severely impact areas around it. Why don't you look up the carnage introduced on the other side of the city 

 

What's changing with parking? 

[FWJ]

Just now, The Mercer Takeover said:

Said by someone who doesn't own a car or have to travel distances to get to Football or the Skyline 

I do own a car, and I walk to Tynecastle.

I haven’t been to the Skyline yet (hope to put that right soon) but when I do I’ll either walk or take a taxi so that I can have a drink with my dinner.

If I was desperate to drive my car and it had to be through Haymarket - well it would be after 7 so the restrictions would be lifted.

[FWJ]

What would you do if you were going to the Skyline Restaurant (before 7pm) and Dalry Road was closed at Haymarket for, say, emergency repairs or if there was a fire?  Would you abandon your plans or simply find another way of getting there?

[Ronald Villiers]

Just get a train or a tram.  It's part of the experience having a couple of pints before a game.  As for the Skyline, I'm washing that delicious scran doon wi a couple of drinks aswell.  

[heartsfc_fan]

Don't have an issue with it. Park and walk.

[The Maroon Jacket]

Maybe the clowncil could close Easter Road also to even things up!

[The Mercer Takeover]

32 minutes ago, FWJ said:

What would you do if you were going to the Skyline Restaurant (before 7pm) and Dalry Road was closed at Haymarket for, say, emergency repairs or if there was a fire?  Would you abandon your plans or simply find another way of getting there?

Still don't get it do you.

 

When you create restrictions in traffic, you create carnage around it. Tynecastle and the Skyline will just become collateral damage. When things get too difficult, or the displaced traffic stops you parking, people just stop doing it. For example 100's of taxi drivers and businesses have gone bust in Glasgow city centre with the traffic restrictions there. Do some research

 

If Hearts don't complain about this, they will lose business. 

 

 

Edited June 6, 2024 by The Mercer Takeover

[jamboinglasgow]

16 minutes ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

Still don't get it do you.

 

When you create restrictions in traffic, you create carnage around it. Tynecastle and the Skyline will just become collateral damage. When things get too difficult, or the displaced traffic stops you parking, people just stop doing it. For example 100's of taxi drivers and businesses have gone bust in Glasgow city centre with the traffic restrictions there. Do some research

 

If Hearts don't complain about this, they will lose business. 

 

 

 

Which ones? As being in Glasgow its hardly a ghost town there, and the drop in taxi drivers happened before the LEZ came in. Glasgow city council is terrible but cant say the LEZ has ruined things unless you read alarmist stories in the paper.

[stevie]

Long past time this **** Arthur was sent packing.Edinburgh (particularly Corstorphine)is a shambles.

Can’t believe Labour have allowed this imbecile to ride roughshod for so long.

 

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, stevie said:

Long past time this **** Arthur was sent packing.Edinburgh (particularly Corstorphine)is a shambles.

Can’t believe Labour have allowed this imbecile to ride roughshod for so long.

 

I’m sure he’s going to stand as an MP in the GE.

[Mr Brightside]

This could impact people coming from the east of Edinburgh. I usually drive down Morrison street then park in Dalry on a match day. Suppose I could go to fountain bridge and back along Dalry.

 

Does seem unnecessary as people from the east go via haymarket junction to the airport/ zoo so this could be pretty disruptive.

[been here before]

53 minutes ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

The number of people complaining on social media about the carnage in the other side of the city, where this is has already been implemented, is frightening 

 

"social media", "carnage", "frightening"

 

[Saint Jambo]

50 minutes ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

Still don't get it do you.

 

When you create restrictions in traffic, you create carnage around it. Tynecastle and the Skyline will just become collateral damage. When things get too difficult, or the displaced traffic stops you parking, people just stop doing it. For example 100's of taxi drivers and businesses have gone bust in Glasgow city centre with the traffic restrictions there. Do some research

 

If Hearts don't complain about this, they will lose business. 

 

 

 

Living in Glasgow, I've not seen an appreciable change in the number of businesses going bust in the city centre since LEZ. Businesses were going bust beforehand with changes in people's shopping and eating habits seriously impacting viability, far more so than any minor impact from LEZ.

 

As someone who both owns a car and travels a decent distance to watch Hearts, I can't say this closure concerns me. I sometimes get the train and sometimes drive. I'll continue to do both after this change comes into effect.

[Jamboross]

A potentially quicker bus journey to and from Tynecastle? A more pedestrian friendly enviornment in the surrounding area? Improvements to the aesthetics of the area? Winds up all the 20 minute neighnourhood conspiracy nuts?

 

Bring it on. 

 

With regards to Scott Arthur, he takes a lot of flak just now but I reckon in 20 years people will look back favourably on the changes he's pushing through. 

 

 

[Taffin]

3 minutes ago, Jamboross said:

A potentially quicker bus journey to and from Tynecastle? A more pedestrian friendly enviornment in the surrounding area? Improvements to the aesthetics of the area? Winds up all the 20 minute neighnourhood conspiracy nuts?

 

Bring it on. 

 

With regards to Scott Arthur, he takes a lot of flak just now but I reckon in 20 years people will look back favourably on the changes he's pushing through. 

 

 

 

This.

 

Being in a city centre with drastically reduced car traffic is a wonderful thing. Particularly for those who actually live in it.

[hughesie27]

1 hour ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

Unbelievable.

 

Folk get dropped off and picked up all the time.

 

If you make it difficult to do something, folk stop doing it

 

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[Jodami]

15 minute city warriors!!! Tell me, are Reform standing candidates in all Edinburgh constituencies?

[davemclaren]

3 hours ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

As the title says, Edinburgh city council are planning major permanent restrictions to traffic from Haymarket to Tynecastle. This will be from 7am to 7pm, 7 days per week.

 

Fresh from destroying businesses and livelihoods in other parts of the city, the eco warriors and their 15 minute cities crap, will now impact folk travelling to the games and eating at the Skyline.

 

In conjunction with reduced parking in the whole Dairy area, this has got disaster written all over it. Traffic going to games will be displaced all over the place.

 

Can you imagine the carnage on game days. Supporters need to put the council back in box here, and don't forget, if you do nothing about it Gorgie will be next.

 

https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/13951/consultation-opens-on-future-dalry-town-centre-proposals

Woukd never think about driving along Dalry Road to get to Tynecastle. This would likely help my bus to not get snarled up in as much traffic so all for it.  

[Watt-Zeefuik]

Just now, davemclaren said:

Woukd never think about driving along Dalry Road to get to Tynecastle. This would likely help my bus to not get snarled up in as much traffic so all for it.  

My first memory of going to Tynie was getting stuck in the jam going down Dalry from Haymarket. Would be much more pleasant if there was more room to walk and no cars coming through at that time.

[davemclaren]

Just now, Watt-Zeefuik said:

My first memory of going to Tynie was getting stuck in the jam going down Dalry from Haymarket. Would be much more pleasant if there was more room to walk and no cars coming through at that time.

Yip, my early memories are walking along Shanddick Place then Dalry Road to get the ground.  Luckily the eco warriors in the 60s had just blocked off the access at Princes Streer/Shandwick Place to make that walk easier. 

[davemclaren]

2 hours ago, Howdy Doody Jambo said:

Even if he was voted out another clowncil puppet would spring up and take his place 

They could not organise a piss up in a brewery 

It amazes me how the minority make all the decisions for the majority 

Let's have more referendums and let the cities citizens decide on how it wants to function as they do in other European countries 

Or we could just have elections for councillors...oh wait. 

[Ricardo Quaresma]

46 minutes ago, Taffin said:

This.

 

Being in a city centre with drastically reduced car traffic is a wonderful thing. Particularly for those who actually live in it.

 

I only care about stinking poisonous diesel vehicles and there's still plenty of them exempt because presumably they're tax exempt

 

That stinking ghost bus is one of them, worse than 5 massive dump trucks on its own

[will-i-am-a-jambo]

3 hours ago, The Mercer Takeover said:

As the title says, Edinburgh city council are planning major permanent restrictions to traffic from Haymarket to Tynecastle. This will be from 7am to 7pm, 7 days per week.

 

Fresh from destroying businesses and livelihoods in other parts of the city, the eco warriors and their 15 minute cities crap, will now impact folk travelling to the games and eating at the Skyline.

 

In conjunction with reduced parking in the whole Dairy area, this has got disaster written all over it. Traffic going to games will be displaced all over the place.

 

Can you imagine the carnage on game days. Supporters need to put the council back in box here, and don't forget, if you do nothing about it Gorgie will be next.

 

https://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/news/article/13951/consultation-opens-on-future-dalry-town-centre-proposals

Plenty alternatives to getting to Tynecastle other than the car.

It's about time we started making more effort to get away from a car culture imo.

[henryheart]

22 minutes ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

My first memory of going to Tynie was getting stuck in the jam going down Dalry from Haymarket. Would be much more pleasant if there was more room to walk and no cars coming through at that time.

 

My early memories are of leaving the house at 2.15 (it was always the same time) and my dad driving to Wheatfield Place and parking. Never a problem except when Hibs, Rangers or Celtic were visiting. We were in the ground by 2.30. We would leave on the final whistle at 4.40 (10 minutes half time breaks and rarely any added time), run to the car and be in the house by 4.55 to see the results on TV. 

 

Those were the days! 

[Taffin]

17 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

I only care about stinking poisonous diesel vehicles and there's still plenty of them exempt because presumably they're tax exempt

 

That stinking ghost bus is one of them, worse than 5 massive dump trucks on its own

 

I drive one. Only £30 tax a year 

 

Edited June 6, 2024 by Taffin