Joe Savage leaves Hearts ( updated )

[Ricardo Quaresma]

2 hours ago, gorgieheart said:

OH NO. THE OPINION POLIS ARE OOT !!

 

You want to explain why you have any justification for what you wrote?

 

Your context was set by the post you quoted

[washniklaw]

Obviously Takis has been mentioned as a possible replacement. Are there any other names in the frame?

 

Surely Andy Webster must be an option? Smart guy how was studying a degree and already in place at the club.  My left field name suggestion might be someone like Jamie Swinney (Falkirk CEO). He has a significant background in football/coaching and might fancy the challenge at a bigger club? Different role but he had experience across most of a football club at Stenhousemuir.

 

Any other names out there?

[ramrod]

1 hour ago, RustyRightPeg said:

I was told he took it very personally too. 
 

Watch these comments open that “thick skin it’s fitbaw” argument again though. They’ll be all over it like flies to shite 

Would be an utterly ridiculous reason for leaving his post tbf 

[RustyRightPeg]

22 minutes ago, ramrod said:

Would be an utterly ridiculous reason for leaving his post tbf 

Would it?
 

Would you stay in a job you were getting abused on the daily for, both physically and mentally for doing your best? And by the way he done a good job, I cannot imagine what this place would be like if he didn’t!

 

The abuse he’s suffered is ****ing embarrassing in truth. 

[soonbe110]

28 minutes ago, ramrod said:

Would be an utterly ridiculous reason for leaving his post tbf 

If it truly is the reason then the sooner he goes the better. People in that type of position need to rise above fans comments. 

[soonbe110]

7 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Would it?
 

Would you stay in a job you were getting abused on the daily for, both physically and mentally for doing your best? And by the way he done a good job, I cannot imagine what this place would be like if he didn’t!

 

The abuse he’s suffered is ****ing embarrassing in truth. 

Anything on here or other social media vehicles is easily ignored.  The stuff on here doesn’t and shouldn’t affect Savage in his role. Anyone making decisions based on what the views are on here shouldn’t be in the job. 

[OTT]

2 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

I was told he took it very personally too. 
 

Watch these comments open that “thick skin it’s fitbaw” argument again though. They’ll be all over it like flies to shite 

 

Its very, very disappointing if this has been a driving factor behind him leaving. 

 

Joes done a tremendous job, but unfortunately, everyone has an opinion. 

 

Almost wish there had been some rumour about him leaving when the fans were in the stadium, I'm sure the fans would have got right behind him. 

[RustyRightPeg]

21 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

Anything on here or other social media vehicles is easily ignored.  The stuff on here doesn’t and shouldn’t affect Savage in his role. Anyone making decisions based on what the views are on here shouldn’t be in the job. 

Hasn’t all been online though has it? He gets it in person too

[Pasquale for King]

1 hour ago, GinRummy said:

Probably because it’s true though. It shouldn’t be like it is but imo, it’s a fact that you need thick skin in football. If you took every insult or criticism to heart your mental health would be badly affected. 

Rightly or wrongly a thick skin is required in general life, he doesn’t seem the type to be bothered by criticism but personal abuse to his face is unacceptable, if unsurprising.

[soonbe110]

44 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Hasn’t all been online though has it? He gets it in person too

Wouldn’t know about that would I? 

[RustyRightPeg]

9 minutes ago, soonbe110 said:

Wouldn’t know about that would I? 

😂😂 no bother. Not like it hasn’t been mentioned in here countless times

[ramrod]

1 hour ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Would it?
 

Would you stay in a job you were getting abused on the daily for, both physically and mentally for doing your best? And by the way he done a good job, I cannot imagine what this place would be like if he didn’t!

 

The abuse he’s suffered is ****ing embarrassing in truth. 

The vast majority of  Hearts fans having nothing but praise for Joe, if he can't see through a few clueless dafties then that's a sad state of affairs.

Everyone encounters these halfwits at their workplace at sometime or other during their working life.

For what it's worth I don't think that has anything to do with his leaving , he has probably been tapped up for another job.

 

[soonbe110]

10 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

😂😂 no bother. Not like it hasn’t been mentioned in here countless times

Like most things on here, just hearsay. 

[soonbe110]

10 hours ago, ramrod said:

The vast majority of  Hearts fans having nothing but praise for Joe, if he can't see through a few clueless dafties then that's a sad state of affairs.

Everyone encounters these halfwits at their workplace at sometime or other during their working life.

For what it's worth I don't think that has anything to do with his leaving , he has probably been tapped up for another job.

 

I’d agree, or there’s been a falling out behind the scenes.  Neither would surprise me. 

[Penrices left boot]

On 11/06/2024 at 14:01, Dallas Green said:

Just an FYI for anyone arguing over what was promised to Naismith when he came in, I came across this.

https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/naismith-boss-credentials-backs-as-hearts-coach-linked-with-premiership-job-3577171

"We brought him to Hearts with that in mind,” admitted Craig Levein. “We spoke to him about becoming a coach and then a manager if everything went well.”

 

Doesn't fit in with the cl ruined us argument. 

This will trigger a few.

 

Good planning from the big man, great DoF type of forward planning one might say.

 

The answer was just along the corridor.

 

[Penrices left boot]

10 hours ago, ramrod said:

The vast majority of  Hearts fans having nothing but praise for Joe, if he can't see through a few clueless dafties then that's a sad state of affairs.

Everyone encounters these halfwits at their workplace at sometime or other during their working life.

For what it's worth I don't think that has anything to do with his leaving , he has probably been tapped up for another job.

 

 

We don't want to give the cretins too much praise either.

They'll wear it as a badge of honour if he did leave because of the vile abuse they dish put, on par with planes, posters and house visits. 

 

 

Edited June 13, 2024 by Bazzas right boot

[kingantti1874]

10 hours ago, ramrod said:

The vast majority of  Hearts fans having nothing but praise for Joe, if he can't see through a few clueless dafties then that's a sad state of affairs.

Everyone encounters these halfwits at their workplace at sometime or other during their working life.

For what it's worth I don't think that has anything to do with his leaving , he has probably been tapped up for another job.

 

agreed, and if he struggled at hearts he’s isn’t going to find it any easier at another club.  Don’t get me wrong we have some absolute moonhowlers but i don’t think we are an anomaly, quite the opposite. 
 

I think he’s a pretty smart guy and he’s got to know that sadly that is still part of football.

 

for that reason I think you are right, either he’s been tapped up and has a role lined up, he knows one is coming and doesn’t want to leave us mid season or he wants to position himself for another gig.  I choose to think maybe it’s the second one and he thinks doing it now may be less disruption for us.  

[Randy Marsh]

13 minutes ago, Bazzas right boot said:

 

Doesn't fit in with the cl ruined us argument. 

This will trigger a few.

 

Good planning from the big man, great DoF type of forward planning one might say.

 

The answer was just along the corridor.

 

If you throw 100 darts a dartboard then 1 might just hit the bullseye.

[The Treasurer]

12 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Would it?
 

Would you stay in a job you were getting abused on the daily for, both physically and mentally for doing your best? And by the way he done a good job, I cannot imagine what this place would be like if he didn’t!

 

The abuse he’s suffered is ****ing embarrassing in truth. 

Best not take a job in the construction industry then. 

[RustyRightPeg]

9 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

Best not take a job in the construction industry then. 

Aye you need to be a man’s man eh. Pints and slags bosh 

[Debut 4]

30 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

Best not take a job in the construction industry then. 

Bit misleading😂.    We call it “banter” and everyone handles a ribbing. It’s rarely serious 😁

[Penrices left boot]

43 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

Best not take a job in the construction industry then. 

 

Daft comment,  that's usually slagging and banter between folk you know. 

Like Savage will no doubt engage in with his staff and colleagues.

 

In the construction industry,  random screaming, being  vile and singling you out for abuse is rare, and I doubt there are social media followings making sure the abuse in 24/7.

There are probably no "fans" or "support" either that are meant to be on your side but turn into arseholes after a few defeats.

 

What a daft and irrelevant comment in regards to Savage.

 

If some random appeared on a construction site and handed out abuse he'd be hit and sent packing.

 

We have a great support in general,  but a quick gander at social media and a bit of recent history does tell us we have a small, vile and horrible element that seems to enjoy abusing our own.

Their behaviour certainly wouldn't encourage or motivated you, especially if other opportunities were readily available. 

 

 

 

Edited June 13, 2024 by Bazzas right boot

[BlueRiver]

40 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Aye you need to be a man’s man eh. Pints and slags bosh 

 

You forgot the bags 

[Penrices left boot]

12 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Would it?
 

Would you stay in a job you were getting abused on the daily for, both physically and mentally for doing your best? And by the way he done a good job, I cannot imagine what this place would be like if he didn’t!

 

The abuse he’s suffered is ****ing embarrassing in truth. 

 

And that's by your own " supporters ".

 

 

[The Treasurer]

1 hour ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Aye you need to be a man’s man eh. Pints and slags bosh 

No just able to not start crying if someone is "really really horrid" 

[RustyRightPeg]

12 minutes ago, The Treasurer said:

No just able to not start crying if someone is "really really horrid" 

Ooft, showing your toughness now. 
 

Maybe you should go into Sporting Director positions. 

[Pasquale for King]

3 hours ago, Randy Marsh said:

If you throw 100 darts a dartboard then 1 might just hit the bullseye.

😆👍🏽👏🏾

[il Duce McTarkin]

17 hours ago, GinRummy said:

I still think the real reason is another job with more money. We will find that out soon enough. 

 

Of course it is. 

[wavydavy]

39 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

Of course it is. 

 

You never know although it is probably correct.

 

Here is a quote from an article by Banderson in the EEN from Naismith which might contradict some of the signings Savage made before Naismtih was appointed.

 

There is an expectation that we might see more of them quicker than anybody else who comes in. Yan and Blair are different to what we currently have, I think. What they bring is good experience. It’s important to get players in and I think you are crazy if you don’t look closer to home because it takes an element of risk out of it.

[The Treasurer]

2 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Ooft, showing your toughness now. 
 

Maybe you should go into Sporting Director positions. 

Not tough, just able to deal with negativity without curling up in a corner. 

Don't think I'd be suitable for a Sporting Director role as I have no experience in that type of work 

[ShedBoy]

18 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Would it?
 

Would you stay in a job you were getting abused on the daily for, both physically and mentally for doing your best? And by the way he done a good job, I cannot imagine what this place would be like if he didn’t!

 

The abuse he’s suffered is ****ing embarrassing in truth. 

Willie Collum? 
 

 

[Pasquale for King]

2 hours ago, wavydavy said:

 

You never know although it is probably correct.

 

Here is a quote from an article by Banderson in the EEN from Naismith which might contradict some of the signings Savage made before Naismtih was appointed.

 

There is an expectation that we might see more of them quicker than anybody else who comes in. Yan and Blair are different to what we currently have, I think. What they bring is good experience. It’s important to get players in and I think you are crazy if you don’t look closer to home because it takes an element of risk out of it.

Yeah there may well have been a different approach to signings,

Savage has signed guys from elsewhere with the view of improving them and selling them on. Nothing wrong with that but there has to be a balance and a lot of the guys we have brought in aren’t really any better than players from closer to home. 
I still hope for a sprinkle of magic this summer from some far flung place but as its a 6 and a RB we’re after primarily that’s probably unlikely. 
 

 

 

Oops spoke too soon 😆

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/gerald-taylor-close-hearts-transfer-33020037

Edited June 13, 2024 by Pasquale for King

[53Stockaree]

On 12/06/2024 at 14:11, number-16 said:

First time since 2018 that our Twitter account has mentioned Takis Fyssas

 

https://x.com/JamTarts/status/1800838177013301661?t=Ke2NXGPUkn-9FVCjPgH27A&s=19

 

Happy Birthday Takis, and hopefully you've got a job offer in Edinburgh in one of your cards.

I see that Takis will be one of the "four Greek legends" who will be commenting for Greek TV/streaming service ERT during Euro 2024. I'm looking forward to his contribution this Friday and hope he has the opportunity to say something good about Scottish football.

[gorgieheart]

On 12/06/2024 at 19:07, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

You want to explain why you have any justification for what you wrote?

 

Your context was set by the post you quoted

i dont need to explain anything ... jog on....  

 

hilarious

 

Basically , dont have an opinion unless its the same as yours.

 

[Smithian]

It's been a couple weeks. Has there yet been a decent article about whether this was by choice or a "we feel you'd be a great fit somewhere else"?

[The Treasurer]

12 minutes ago, Smithian said:

It's been a couple weeks. Has there yet been a decent article about whether this was by choice or a "we feel you'd be a great fit somewhere else"?

Apparently it's because someone on here called him a big jobby 

[selkirkhmfc1874]

Wonder if he's already left because normally when we officially announce a new signing he always has something to say along with naisey but there's nothing from him about Penrice signing 

[GinRummy]

2 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Wonder if he's already left because normally when we officially announce a new signing he always has something to say along with naisey but there's nothing from him about Penrice signing 

Good point. He might just be taking a back seat though, if he appears at a press conference for a new signing the focus will end up being Savage rather than the new guy. 

[selkirkhmfc1874]

4 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

Good point. He might just be taking a back seat though, if he appears at a press conference for a new signing the focus will end up being Savage rather than the new guy. 

Maybe as you say just taking back seat buddy , just when reading the piece on the Website noticed the usual peace from Savage wasn't their 

Edited June 18, 2024 by Selkirkhmfc1874

[jamboinglasgow]

52 minutes ago, GinRummy said:

Good point. He might just be taking a back seat though, if he appears at a press conference for a new signing the focus will end up being Savage rather than the new guy. 

 

Yeah thats how I am reading it, no point of him giving comments about a player he wont see play so leaving it with Naismith.

[Ricardo Quaresma]

On 14/06/2024 at 11:39, gorgieheart said:

i dont need to explain anything ... jog on....  

 

hilarious

 

Basically , dont have an opinion unless its the same as yours.

 

 

It wasn't an opinion, you jumped on someone's error and assumed they were right

 

Still not followed the conversation from the start I see; still trying to wriggle out of it like there was never anything incorrect about it 🤣

 

'jog on' 🤣

 

Top bantz 🤣

[Ricardo Quaresma]

1 hour ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said:

Wonder if he's already left because normally when we officially announce a new signing he always has something to say along with naisey but there's nothing from him about Penrice signing 

 

[Rick Sanchez]

Another signing with no comment from Savage. He'd usually be thanking his counterparts etc.

 

Hope we hear about a replacement soon.

[Armageddon]

Savage has been involved in all these signings, no chat within the club about him moving on.

[Gav M]

there's been no mention of him I the new player's interviews either, normally they mention at least speaking to him.

McKinley mentioned at one of the plot ceremonies that he was working his notice I believe, not sure what that will entail

[PHSCAndy]

Has the club released any sort of statement regarding the Savage saga yet?

It’s now been 2 months since the news broke - you’d have thought something would’ve got out by now!

If Savage was moving onto another job - you’d think something would’ve got out by now!

I seen that a few folk posted on the forum about our CEO briefly mentioning Savage at a plot ceremony but other than that not a squeak. 
I just find it all very strange. 😬

[Clerry Jambo]

It is very strange but maybe something legally prevents a statement?

[SMJ_1874]

It’s not strange at all. Joe has decided to leave and terminate his contract.  He doesn’t have anything else lined up and will be taking a sabbatical for 3/4 months. Why do people feel the club need to release a statement about it and why is it such a saga? People change jobs, leave jobs constantly so I don’t get the scrutiny about Joe.
 

He did his best for us and has decided to call it a day. Wherever he goes or wherever he ends up then he goes with my best wishes. I’m sorry it didn’t work out for us the way he wanted it to. Good luck Joe! 

[pettigrewsstylist]

7 minutes ago, SMJ_1874 said:

It’s not strange at all. Joe has decided to leave and terminate his contract.  He doesn’t have anything else lined up and will be taking a sabbatical for 3/4 months. Why do people feel the club need to release a statement about it and why is it such a saga? People change jobs, leave jobs constantly so I don’t get the scrutiny about Joe.
 

He did his best for us and has decided to call it a day. Wherever he goes or wherever he ends up then he goes with my best wishes. I’m sorry it didn’t work out for us the way he wanted it to. Good luck Joe! 

The end.

[kingantti1874]

Just a wee bit disappointing.  Feels like we really have a direction now and he’s been a big part of it. Hes talked about trophies and success and tbh I feel like we are on the verge of something great. 
 

he will have something else in the pipeline imo.  Even if it does require a sabbatical