New Kits

[PhoenixHearts]

42 minutes ago, Fitzroy Pointon said:

 

That looks terrible quality. It has that cheap white on the inside and no umbro tags on the hem. Wouldn't surprise me if that was actually made by Castore. If you look at all our recent Umbro shirts, the fabric is the same colour on the inside. 

 

To be fair there's nothing inherently "cheap" about white inside a jersey. That's just standard practice for the sublimation process.

 

(You don't have to read this if you're not interested btw)

 

Sublimation is the process of heating ink from a solid state into a gas, skipping the liquid stage. This gas is forced into the polyester material and becomes solid again. 

 

You wouldn't get white inside solid coloured kits but most shirts with a pattern e.g stripes, hoops or anything more abstract will generally be sublimated, and sublimation generally works best on white polyester.

 

Yes you could sublimate black stripes into a solid red material but since they have the gold pinstriping between red and black, it has to be a white base because the lightest colour you can get on sublimated design is that of the material it is printed on.

 

The lightest colour here is gold, but if they sublimated on gold material then the red would take on a goldy tint.

 

Another example was our black and blue striped 3rd kit. We sublimated black stripes onto it but since the lightest colour in the design was the blue, the kit is blue inside. The sleeves were made of solid black material since they didn't require any sublimated pattern.

 

Our home kit last season also had those thin tonal hoops on it but since they were just a darker shade of maroon, they could be sublimated into an already maroon material.

The inside of that shirt is the same as the lighter of the two maroons on the outside.

 

So white inside doesn't necessarily mean cheap. It's just a logical and efficient process to use for designs using multiple light and dark shades.

 

Anyway enough waffling... at least I find it interesting.

[BRY]

6 minutes ago, PhoenixHearts said:

 

To be fair there's nothing inherently "cheap" about white inside a jersey. That's just standard practice for the sublimation process.

 

(You don't have to read this if you're not interested btw)

 

Sublimation is the process of heating ink from a solid state into a gas, skipping the liquid stage. This gas is forced into the polyester material and becomes solid again. 

 

You wouldn't get white inside solid coloured kits but most shirts with a pattern e.g stripes, hoops or anything more abstract will generally be sublimated, and sublimation generally works best on white polyester.

 

Yes you could sublimate black stripes into a solid red material but since they have the gold pinstriping between red and black, it has to be a white base because the lightest colour you can get on sublimated design is that of the material it is printed on.

 

The lightest colour here is gold, but if they sublimated on gold material then the red would take on a goldy tint.

 

Another example was our black and blue striped 3rd kit. We sublimated black stripes onto it but since the lightest colour in the design was the blue, the kit is blue inside. The sleeves were made of solid black material since they didn't require any sublimated pattern.

 

Our home kit last season also had those thin tonal hoops on it but since they were just a darker shade of maroon, they could be sublimated into an already maroon material.

The inside of that shirt is the same as the lighter of the two maroons on the outside.

 

So white inside doesn't necessarily mean cheap. It's just a logical and efficient process to use for designs using multiple light and dark shades.

 

Anyway enough waffling... at least I find it interesting.

That was interesting - thanks

[RustyRightPeg]

7 minutes ago, PhoenixHearts said:

 

To be fair there's nothing inherently "cheap" about white inside a jersey. That's just standard practice for the sublimation process.

 

(You don't have to read this if you're not interested btw)

 

Sublimation is the process of heating ink from a solid state into a gas, skipping the liquid stage. This gas is forced into the polyester material and becomes solid again. 

 

You wouldn't get white inside solid coloured kits but most shirts with a pattern e.g stripes, hoops or anything more abstract will generally be sublimated, and sublimation generally works best on white polyester.

 

Yes you could sublimate black stripes into a solid red material but since they have the gold pinstriping between red and black, it has to be a white base because the lightest colour you can get on sublimated design is that of the material it is printed on.

 

The lightest colour here is gold, but if they sublimated on gold material then the red would take on a goldy tint.

 

Another example was our black and blue striped 3rd kit. We sublimated black stripes onto it but since the lightest colour in the design was the blue, the kit is blue inside. The sleeves were made of solid black material since they didn't require any sublimated pattern.

 

Our home kit last season also had those thin tonal hoops on it but since they were just a darker shade of maroon, they could be sublimated into an already maroon material.

The inside of that shirt is the same as the lighter of the two maroons on the outside.

 

So white inside doesn't necessarily mean cheap. It's just a logical and efficient process to use for designs using multiple light and dark shades.

 

Anyway enough waffling... at least I find it interesting.

 

If you don't mind me asking...how TF do you know all that?

[Batistuta9]

On 09/05/2024 at 23:28, Ricardo Quaresma said:

I presume we could wriggle out of this deal if we wanted to; it's not what we agreed to, is it, after all?

How and why? 

 

[DG_HMFC]

29 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

we always seem to leave it too late to pick up the summer trade.

 

I've never understood it. Bairns will want their strip for going on their holidays and we seem to leave it late every year.

[PhoenixHearts]

16 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

 

If you don't mind me asking...how TF do you know all that?

 

I work in design and branding 😅

[kingantti1874]

24 minutes ago, DG_HMFC said:

 

I've never understood it. Bairns will want their strip for going on their holidays and we seem to leave it late every year.

yup strange strategy . Maybe we are near bottom of the manufacturing queue if there is such a thing.

 

cant believe its deliberate 

Edited May 13, 2024 by kingantti1874

[Fraggle]

49 minutes ago, PhoenixHearts said:

 

To be fair there's nothing inherently "cheap" about white inside a jersey. That's just standard practice for the sublimation process.

 

(You don't have to read this if you're not interested btw)

 

Sublimation is the process of heating ink from a solid state into a gas, skipping the liquid stage. This gas is forced into the polyester material and becomes solid again. 

 

You wouldn't get white inside solid coloured kits but most shirts with a pattern e.g stripes, hoops or anything more abstract will generally be sublimated, and sublimation generally works best on white polyester.

 

Yes you could sublimate black stripes into a solid red material but since they have the gold pinstriping between red and black, it has to be a white base because the lightest colour you can get on sublimated design is that of the material it is printed on.

 

The lightest colour here is gold, but if they sublimated on gold material then the red would take on a goldy tint.

 

Another example was our black and blue striped 3rd kit. We sublimated black stripes onto it but since the lightest colour in the design was the blue, the kit is blue inside. The sleeves were made of solid black material since they didn't require any sublimated pattern.

 

Our home kit last season also had those thin tonal hoops on it but since they were just a darker shade of maroon, they could be sublimated into an already maroon material.

The inside of that shirt is the same as the lighter of the two maroons on the outside.

 

So white inside doesn't necessarily mean cheap. It's just a logical and efficient process to use for designs using multiple light and dark shades.

 

Anyway enough waffling... at least I find it interesting.

OK, pointdexter, take it outside!! 

 

Just kidding, that was actually a pretty interesting read!! 

 

I'm going to go against the grain here (and most likely what I've said previously), but I'd quite like a modern home top for a change. Not over the top, kinda subtle but away from just the standard solid maroon tops. So mething like the Nike kits from a few years ago where the sleeves were a slightly different colour, fabric, style from the main body of the top. Thinking something along the lines of the French national team jersey from a while back.

[RustyRightPeg]

1 hour ago, PhoenixHearts said:

 

I work in design and branding 😅

Fair. Was interesting reading, cheers. 

[PortyBeach]

On 03/05/2024 at 09:50, Thomaso said:

Apart from this one! ♥️ For the old timers this was the famous Hearts strip and I’d love to see us playing another season in it for old times sake.

Terrific! I think I preferred the Willie Wallace-era white socks with the three maroon bands, though.

I think that collar was pretty much unique to Hearts at one time.

[Hømme]

Has there ever been figures released with regards to how many replica tops Hearts sell? Would be interesting to know.

 

 

[Fitzroy Pointon]

1 hour ago, PhoenixHearts said:

 

To be fair there's nothing inherently "cheap" about white inside a jersey. That's just standard practice for the sublimation process.

 

(You don't have to read this if you're not interested btw)

 

Sublimation is the process of heating ink from a solid state into a gas, skipping the liquid stage. This gas is forced into the polyester material and becomes solid again. 

 

You wouldn't get white inside solid coloured kits but most shirts with a pattern e.g stripes, hoops or anything more abstract will generally be sublimated, and sublimation generally works best on white polyester.

 

Yes you could sublimate black stripes into a solid red material but since they have the gold pinstriping between red and black, it has to be a white base because the lightest colour you can get on sublimated design is that of the material it is printed on.

 

The lightest colour here is gold, but if they sublimated on gold material then the red would take on a goldy tint.

 

Another example was our black and blue striped 3rd kit. We sublimated black stripes onto it but since the lightest colour in the design was the blue, the kit is blue inside. The sleeves were made of solid black material since they didn't require any sublimated pattern.

 

Our home kit last season also had those thin tonal hoops on it but since they were just a darker shade of maroon, they could be sublimated into an already maroon material.

The inside of that shirt is the same as the lighter of the two maroons on the outside.

 

So white inside doesn't necessarily mean cheap. It's just a logical and efficient process to use for designs using multiple light and dark shades.

 

Anyway enough waffling... at least I find it interesting.

 

I did read it and I found it interesting so thanks, I didn't know that at all. 

 

I was thinking back to those Asics kits we had in the 90s that ended up covered in white pulls from the inside. I guess that new kits would maybe use more durable material go avoid that? 

[Debut 4]

On 08/05/2024 at 12:55, dannymack said:

 

 Always prefer home kits with maroon socks. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Always thought I’d like to see a modern take on this strip but going Eddie Murphy in Beverley Hills cop 2 deep maroon.  Not the shiny material though.  
 

Could maybe make the cuffs white which would be nice with the deeper maroon.  
 

White shorts as ever and deep maroon socks with one black and one white pinstripe around the turnovers.  

[Ricardo Quaresma]

2 hours ago, Batistuta87 said:

How and why?

 

We never signed up for a final year bait 'n' switch with a spivvy company that are all about the dollar dollar bill

[Thomaso]

2 hours ago, PortyBeach said:

Terrific! I think I preferred the Willie Wallace-era white socks with the three maroon bands, though.

I think that collar was pretty much unique to Hearts at one time.

It was ♥️

[dannymack]

3 hours ago, PortyBeach said:

Terrific! I think I preferred the Willie Wallace-era white socks with the three maroon bands, though.

I think that collar was pretty much unique to Hearts at one time.

 

 

 

[tian447]

I'd like to see us with something a bit different for the home shirt.  We've had a couple of quite similar ones the past few seasons. 

 

With us in Europe, we'll need a third kit that is totally different to our other 2 options. Hoping that we'll go for something like a mainly white away kit, and something like a return of a silver third kit. 

 

We'll probably start to find out over the next few weeks. 

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

19 minutes ago, tian447 said:

I'd like to see us with something a bit different for the home shirt.  We've had a couple of quite similar ones the past few seasons. 

 

With us in Europe, we'll need a third kit that is totally different to our other 2 options. Hoping that we'll go for something like a mainly white away kit, and something like a return of a silver third kit. 

 

We'll probably start to find out over the next few weeks. 

Is the 150 kit not serving a 2nd season?

[tian447]

4 minutes ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Is the 150 kit not serving a 2nd season?

 

No idea!

 

Assuming we are going to have a 150 style home kit as well. 

 

If that does turn out to be the case, I'd like to see us take the 23/24 Third Kit and make it the 24/25 Away Kit.  That opens up the field for something "different" for our third kit.   We should have worn the 150 third kit a lot more than we did this year! Looks absolutely class! 

Edited May 13, 2024 by tian447

[Jacques de Gauthier]

10 hours ago, tian447 said:

I'd like to see us with something a bit different for the home shirt.  We've had a couple of quite similar ones the past few seasons. 

 

With us in Europe, we'll need a third kit that is totally different to our other 2 options. Hoping that we'll go for something like a mainly white away kit, and something like a return of a silver third kit. 

 

We'll probably start to find out over the next few weeks. 

No thanks. Never silver, ever again. Please no.

[Jacques de Gauthier]

How about maroon and white stripes for a home top?

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

10 hours ago, tian447 said:

 

No idea!

 

Assuming we are going to have a 150 style home kit as well. 

 

If that does turn out to be the case, I'd like to see us take the 23/24 Third Kit and make it the 24/25 Away Kit.  That opens up the field for something "different" for our third kit.   We should have worn the 150 third kit a lot more than we did this year! Looks absolutely class! 

Yeah, totally agree, the pink thing was probably unnecessary but earned some £££'s I suppose.

 

Sure I seen earlier in the thread away was hinted as champagne gold

[kingantti1874]

11 minutes ago, Ally said:

How about maroon and white stripes for a home top?

no

[Jacques de Gauthier]

29 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

no

Fair enough.

[PapaShango]

My laddie's birthday is middle of June, strip the last few seasons has been out for that date so I expect that towards the end of the month we will get sight of what we are getting. Hopefully something with more maroon in the home top, wasn't convinced with the white cobbles on the sleeve this season and I don't want to ever see a pink away shirt again! 

[hmfc_liam06]

12 hours ago, tian447 said:

I'd like to see us with something a bit different for the home shirt.  We've had a couple of quite similar ones the past few seasons. 

 

With us in Europe, we'll need a third kit that is totally different to our other 2 options. Hoping that we'll go for something like a mainly white away kit, and something like a return of a silver third kit. 

 

We'll probably start to find out over the next few weeks. 

 

Totally agree, our home kits have been quite 'basic' of late.

[Phil D. Corners]

3 hours ago, Ally said:

How about maroon and white stripes for a home top?

I really liked the mock up of the one of the original kits but with blue and maroon stripes. (Instead of Blue and Red.) 

 

It was on last years thread. 

[Jacques de Gauthier]

1 minute ago, Phil D. Corners said:

I really liked the mock up of the one of the original kits but with blue and maroon stripes. (Instead of Blue and Red.) 

 

It was on last years thread. 

Nice one. Do you have a link?

[Phil D. Corners]

4 minutes ago, Ally said:

Nice one. Do you have a link?

I was hoping someone else could post it. If not I’ll hunt for it later. 😅

[jamboinglasgow]

3 hours ago, hmfc_liam06 said:

 

Totally agree, our home kits have been quite 'basic' of late.

 

Same, i like trying something unique, makes it stand out. Too many just want the same strip everytime. I did like the Ajax style top a few years ago

Edited May 14, 2024 by jamboinglasgow

[kingantti1874]

Something a bit special, the Chelsea badge this season.  The shiny one on the home kit.

 

a lovely centenary version of that in gold on the home kit would be epic .

[Benny Klack]

On 13/05/2024 at 12:14, neilnunb said:

🤣  if this is true 🤣

 

 

Can of Irn-Bru anyone?

[RustyRightPeg]

On 13/05/2024 at 12:14, neilnunb said:

🤣  if this is true 🤣

 

 

 

Sadly, been confirmed by Rangers directly that this isn't real.

[tian447]

On 13/05/2024 at 12:14, neilnunb said:

🤣  if this is true 🤣

 

 

 

Oh look, another tacky as **** Orange kit for Rangers. 

 

Must be really easy being a kit designer for them.  Pop a wee Union Flag in the design or make it bright ****ing orange, and those lot will lap it up. 

[tian447]

4 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said:

 

Sadly, been confirmed by Rangers directly that this isn't real.

 

That's a shame. It's absolutely shite and they'd have looked like prize wankers wearing it

 

I fully expect them to still have some orange monstrosity as part of their kits next season. They have been predictable as anything with it for about the past 6 or 7 years. 

[Japan Jambo]

On 03/05/2024 at 14:32, Shooter McGavin said:

New celtic top apparently, minging as always

 

 

is there a Palestine flag on the back of the collar?

[Japan Jambo]

On 08/05/2024 at 02:05, Batistuta87 said:

We're gonna end up with that Umbro logo as well aren't we 😩

 

 

Are they channeling the baboon's arse look?

[PortyBeach]

18 hours ago, dannymack said:

 

 

 

Great montage as ever Danny, thanks.

The “inside-left” in the top photo - was that a guy named Sandeman?

[Phil D. Corners]

4 hours ago, Ally said:

Nice one. Do you have a link?

Took ages to find…

 

Here is the original and a mock up from last year. 

[RustyRightPeg]

8 minutes ago, Phil D. Corners said:

Took ages to find…

 

Here is the original and a mock up from last year. 

 

Could we sue Freddie Mercury for plagiarism of the white suit?!

[PhoenixHearts]

4 hours ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

is there a Palestine flag on the back of the collar?

No but there's one on my jacket sleeve 🤟

[dannymack]

11 hours ago, PortyBeach said:

Great montage as ever Danny, thanks.

The “inside-left” in the top photo - was that a guy named Sandeman?

Frank Sandeman 👍

[dannymack]

10 hours ago, Phil D. Corners said:

Took ages to find…

 

Here is the original and a mock up from last year. 

 

 

 

 

 

[dannymack]

13 hours ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

is there a Palestine flag on the back of the collar?

 

Would it surprise you if they did ? 

Me neither. 

 

In fact some of those cretins are insistent Rangers had a Star of David as their first crest but obviously confusing themselves between that said star and a 6 pointed star (two different emblems) 

[dannymack]

8 hours ago, PhoenixHearts said:

No but there's one on my jacket sleeve 🤟

 

I wear a Union Flag/Scottish Saltire on my jacket collar. 

[Jacques de Gauthier]

15 hours ago, Phil D. Corners said:

Took ages to find…

 

Here is the original and a mock up from last year. 

Thanks. It's neat and tidy, which isn't bad. Overall, not my cup of tea, but I don't think I'm the target demographic. I only buy training tops as they don't have sponsors - which look naff, in my opinion - on them.

[Phil D. Corners]

12 minutes ago, Ally said:

Thanks. It's neat and tidy, which isn't bad. Overall, not my cup of tea, but I don't think I'm the target demographic. I only buy training tops as they don't have sponsors - which look naff, in my opinion - on them.

I’m actually the same. I’ve loved our sponsor less third kits over the last years. 

[Skye1874]

Sorry save me scrolling is there any word of when any of our will be released?

[RustyRightPeg]

1 hour ago, Skye1874 said:

Sorry save me scrolling is there any word of when any of our will be released?

 

Nothing yet. I'd imagine there will be a decent marketing campaign accompanying it with it being the 150th kit.

Edited May 15, 2024 by RustyRightPeg

[Mollo]

I like the Ajax style shirts. How about an Ajax style Roseberry shirt for the away?