Steven Naismith ( merged )

[Shooter McGavin]

9 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:

it’s embarrassing tbh. So pathetically desperate to be right. 

Adults that are incapable of saying “You know what, I got it wrong” 😂

 

9 wins in our last 10 (11 wins in our last 12 if you include the cup games), and some folk still can’t take any happiness from it.
 

Wasting it hoping they get an “I told you so” moment…

[Radio-Braga]

10 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:

it’s embarrassing tbh. So pathetically desperate to be right. 

Really do have to feel sorry for these so called fans. 

 

[jambo_tar]

Been brilliant and I'm happy to admit that I was wrong on this one. Hope that Budge & Co. are thinking about offering him a new contract. If we continue playing as well as we are, it's only a matter of time before other clubs start looking at him. I'd be devastated if he left us. I can't wait for the weekend. Thinking about the game already. 

Edited February 19, 2024 by jambo_tar

[AlimOzturk]

Think Naismith genuinely loves it here. Think he taken to this club. 
 

Can see it in how passionate he was as a player and now manager. 
 

He’s a top lad. 

[h-e-a-r-t-s]

Everton will come calling if they go down Sean Dyche gets a new gig, get him tied down now

[jr ewing]

3 hours ago, Mac80 said:

Really do have to feel sorry for these so called fans. 

 

Stung given what happened with RN.

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

Astonishing how many people didn't realise how intense this guy, or realise he is a winner. Would be nice to see him backed in the summer, what he could with another 3 or 4 proper talents would be interesting, very interesting.

[jr ewing]

14 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:

it’s embarrassing tbh. So pathetically desperate to be right. 

Unfortunately been down this road before. Let's hope we get this one right. 

[Radio-Braga]

29 minutes ago, jr ewing said:

Unfortunately been down this road before. Let's hope we get this one right. 

I’m not sure we have been down this road before?

 

We are currently sitting on 51 points which is exactly the amount we were sitting on at this stage in 05/06. 
 

For a rookie manager SN has shown more than enough to suggest he will be a success. 

[Jeff]

3 hours ago, h-e-a-r-t-s said:

Everton will come calling if they go down Sean Dyche gets a new gig, get him tied down now

 

No chance. Everton will go for a Steve Cooper

[Smithian]

4 hours ago, h-e-a-r-t-s said:

Everton will come calling if they go down Sean Dyche gets a new gig, get him tied down now

If Everton calls, he’s gone. Fair play to him if he earns that opportunity, whether it be Everton or another EPL club.

 

I just want to make it hard for a Championship club like Stoke or Norwich to turn his head down the line. We can’t match their money, but we can make him happy here so he has to blown away by them to go.

[Wee Mikey]

Apologies, as I've posted this previously.

 

It came to mind and I was kinda saving it up for after a 🏆 win.

 

But, given our current form? what the heck, eh?

 

Come OAN ... repent all ye yet to do so:-

 

Being a brilliant rendition, it's not only for us avowed 'Happy Clappers'.

 

Substutute 'Naisy' for 'Jesus', and it all makes sense for the pant-wettters and naysayers.

 

 

 

 🎶🎵🎶

Oh, happy day (Oh, happy day)
Oh, happy day (Oh, happy day)
When Naisy washed (When Naisy washed)
Oh, when He washed (When Naisy washed)
When Naisy washed (When Naisy washed)
He washed my sins away (Oh, happy day)

Oh, happy day (Oh, happy day)

Oh, happy day (Oh, happy day)
Oh, happy day (Oh, happy day)
When Naisy washed (When Naisy washed)
Oh, when He washed (When Naisy washed)
When Naisy washed (When Naisy washed)
He washed my sins away (Oh, happy day)
Oh, it's a happy day (Oh, happy day)

🎶🎵🎶

Edited February 19, 2024 by Wee Mikey

[kingantti1874]

3 hours ago, jr ewing said:

Unfortunately been down this road before. Let's hope we get this one right. 

no we really haven’t. Naisy’s stats stand up to the greatest hearts managers across the past 40 years.  

[jr ewing]

7 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

no we really haven’t. Naisy’s stats stand up to the greatest hearts managers across the past 40 years.  

Still early days. Still paying off the last incumbent. No rush anyway. 

[kingantti1874]

35 minutes ago, jr ewing said:

Still early days. Still paying off the last incumbent. No rush anyway. 

Neilson taken a new job so I doubt we are, really small beer anyway about the same as a squad player.  
 

If we don’t secure him he will go to a bigger club than hearts faster than we would want. 

 

the reality is, your most likely still coming to grips with being wrong. A defeat in the cup if it happens isn’t going to change that. Should offer him a 4 year deal 

[Chaps]

3 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said:

Neilson taken a new job so I doubt we are, really small beer anyway about the same as a squad player.  
 

If we don’t secure him he will go to a bigger club than hearts faster than we would want. 

 

the reality is, your most likely still coming to grips with being wrong. A defeat in the cup if it happens isn’t going to change that. Should offer him a 4 year deal 

4 year deal

 

Behave.

 

 

[kingantti1874]

34 minutes ago, Chaps said:

4 year deal

 

Behave.

 

 

3/4 years Pretty common contract length for a manager. Need to lock in talent. 

[jr ewing]

4 hours ago, kingantti1874 said:

Neilson taken a new job so I doubt we are, really small beer anyway about the same as a squad player.  
 

If we don’t secure him he will go to a bigger club than hearts faster than we would want. 

 

the reality is, your most likely still coming to grips with being wrong. A defeat in the cup if it happens isn’t going to change that. Should offer him a 4 year deal 

No thanks. 

[Armageddon]

On 18/02/2024 at 22:34, Mac80 said:

No drama as Naismith will have started the course. 

Naismith should be teaching the course 👌🏼

[kingantti1874]

9 hours ago, jr ewing said:

No thanks. 

weirdo 

[KariHMFC]

The good thing is the media are so engrossed with Shankland (rightly so btw!), that Naismiths work is going under the radar a bit and they think of us as a 1 man team that will capitulate if Shankland leaves. I think Naismith is doing a brilliant job, and if Shankland does leave in the summer and we continue this form then he will be getting a lot more attention from other clubs. 

[Byyy The Light]

10 hours ago, Armageddon said:

Naismith should be teaching the course 👌🏼

 

Makes a mockery of the whole badges nonsense.  It's yet another money making sham from UEFA.

 

[Jambo in Bathgate]

1 hour ago, Byyy The Light said:

 

Makes a mockery of the whole badges nonsense.  It's yet another money making sham from UEFA.

 

It’s jobs for the boys. How did we survive in the past without theses restrictions? 

[Byyy The Light]

3 hours ago, Jambo in Bathgate said:

It’s jobs for the boys. How did we survive in the past without theses restrictions? 

 

It's not in a club's interest to put someone in who doesn't have the skills to deliver what they want.  It's not like a pilot or a gas engineer or a job where people's lives are at risk due to negligence.

 

It's just UEFA making money.

 

I love the fact Naismith is getting it right round everyone who came out with the "naebadges" patter.

[Ricardo Quaresma]

1 hour ago, Byyy The Light said:

It's not in a club's interest to put someone in who doesn't have the skills to deliver what they want.  It's not like a pilot or a gas engineer or a job where people's lives are at risk due to negligence.

 

It's just UEFA making money.

 

I love the fact Naismith is getting it right round everyone who came out with the "naebadges" patter.

 

You mean hibbys? 🙂

[Ricardo Quaresma]

On 17/02/2024 at 18:41, Smithian said:

Brilliant. This Hearts squad is taking care of business and beating teams they should beat week in and week out. I know cold streaks follow hot, but he's shown me a lot. Can't say enough about his flexibility with tactics and patience bringing in youth players and giving international arrivals time to settle.

 

When do Budge and McKinlay consider if they should tie him up with a new contract to help scare off interest from England? I don't think he'll pull a Robbie Neilson and jump for a League 1 side with recent Championship time, but if someone more credible calls, I want to make it hard for him to leave.

 

Trying to focus on all the good things before I remember we're just months away from another drama cycle about European license issues.

 

He said last year that he' starting the course in January, the Q&A I think

 

UEFA Licence issue is over with

 

 

On 17/02/2024 at 18:55, jr ewing said:

No more 3 year contracts please 🙏 

 

5 would be better

 

On 19/02/2024 at 14:00, Mac80 said:

I’m not sure we have been down this road before?

 

We are currently sitting on 51 points which is exactly the amount we were sitting on at this stage in 05/06. 
 

For a rookie manager SN has shown more than enough to suggest he will be a success. 

 

 

[GinRummy]

26 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

You mean hibbys? 🙂

Not just Hibs fans. The shan naibadges, naiclue chat was from Hearts fans as well. 

[Byyy The Light]

27 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

You mean hibbys? 🙂

 

Not just hibbys. Plenty Hearts fans and fans of other clubs too.

[Ricardo Quaresma]

Just now, GinRummy said:

Not just Hibs fans. The shan naibadges, naiclue chat was from Hearts fans as well. 

 

I know, fact it was coined by hibbys makes it an even shanner term 🤣

[Ricardo Quaresma]

1 minute ago, Byyy The Light said:

 

Not just hibbys. Plenty Hearts fans and fans of other clubs too.

 

See above 👆 😃

[Ricardo Quaresma]

The real gear grinder is that it's factually incorrect

 

3 badges are needed and he needed 1, so, surely twobadges is the correct term 😄

 

Doesn't fit the play on the surname though; amateur stuff 🙂

[Jambo in Bathgate]

2 hours ago, Byyy The Light said:

 

It's not in a club's interest to put someone in who doesn't have the skills to deliver what they want.  It's not like a pilot or a gas engineer or a job where people's lives are at risk due to negligence.

 

It's just UEFA making money.

 

I love the fact Naismith is getting it right round everyone who came out with the "naebadges" patter.

Just a thought! Was this Levein bringing in Naismith as a potential coach under his promotion from within  scheme. Obviously he was brought into play at first but did Levein see the progression to coach. We won’t know I suppose as we were hit by a shit season and Covid doing for us. 

[Ricardo Quaresma]

17 minutes ago, Jambo in Bathgate said:

Just a thought! Was this Levein bringing in Naismith as a potential coach under his promotion from within  scheme. Obviously he was brought into play at first but did Levein see the progression to coach. We won’t know I suppose as we were hit by a shit season and Covid doing for us. 

 

Well, Naismith had already started his badges at aged 28

[Jambo in Bathgate]

3 minutes ago, Ricardo Quaresma said:

 

Well, Naismith had already started his badges at aged 28

Ah didn’t know that! 

[Keep the Heid]

If Alex Neil can get offered a top gig in England, on the back of whatever he achieved with Hamilton (relegating Hibs was very funny at the time) then SN will have some English clubs taking an interest.

Now I'm not one for extending and improving contracts this soon,I believe an individual needs to feel a bit uncertainty to perform at their absolute best, the comfort zone is not where I want him to be yet,  however I think I've seen enough so far to make a fairly educated assumption that SN knows exactly how to do the job, I was very impressed with how we approached the Rosenberg game at Tynecastle, we went for it like an old Euro night under the lights from the 70s and 80s,

Beating Sellick at darkheid and almost getting something at Ibrox were also good indicators.

His audition will be complete if we finish third, qualify for Europe and make the cup final.

After that I would be happy to see the club extend his contract, we would all have to buy into that longer term project also, so when the downturn arrives, we accept that we can't rush on here demanding he gets the sack.

If he signs for the longer term, WE ALL have to sign up with HIM for the longer term, that stability could see a few more gems coming through the academy and who know's some regular Hampden trips.

[Ricardo Quaresma]

26 minutes ago, Jambo in Bathgate said:

Ah didn’t know that! 

 

👍

[Watt-Zeefuik]

1 hour ago, Jambo in Bathgate said:

Just a thought! Was this Levein bringing in Naismith as a potential coach under his promotion from within  scheme. Obviously he was brought into play at first but did Levein see the progression to coach. We won’t know I suppose as we were hit by a shit season and Covid doing for us. 

For all the crap Levein has gotten for the bootroom strategy not working out, our two best managers since administration have both been internal promotions. And as shit as he was at doing both roles by the end, Mr. "Just Along The Corridor" himself probably has to come in at #3.

 

While Cathro had been at the club before, he was technically an outside hire, as was Stendel, who were easily our worst two of the period.

[Jambo in Bathgate]

2 hours ago, Watt-Zeefuik said:

For all the crap Levein has gotten for the bootroom strategy not working out, our two best managers since administration have both been internal promotions. And as shit as he was at doing both roles by the end, Mr. "Just Along The Corridor" himself probably has to come in at #3.

 

While Cathro had been at the club before, he was technically an outside hire, as was Stendel, who were easily our worst two of the period.

Very true. Nelson first time round was very good appointment. Second time he got us promoted and 3rd again. But he made big mistakes with a few player signings that destabilised the dressing room as did Levein. Naismith has been a breath of fresh air. Like Alex MacDonald and Sandy Jardine he has a winning mentality and is passing it onto our squad. 

[Tynecastle Valhalla]

You can tell by listening to Naisy that he knows what he is doing.

 

it just took a while to get the players to understand and then implement it.

 

as a player he was a winner on the pitch and a leader.

 

he also has great experience and contacts.

 

he seems to get hearts from his playing days and is someone who has clearly formed a close bond with the club despite being from a different part of the country and not growing up knowing much about us other than the odd game against us.

 

he will be impressed with the off the field running and the financial stability.

 

he clearly wants to promote the good young players too which is so key for us given the money we spend on youth.

 

neilson rarely did that as he saw it as too much of a risk.

 

he is doing great right now and part of that is the winning mentality he has brought in.

 

Shankland on his own wins points and would be hard to replicate even through two or three players but there will be a succession plan.

 

if the team is not giving enough he will let them know about it and that’s why we see better performances after half time - he’s not afraid to make changes straight away.

 

hearts is also a good job for him to learn his trade even if he is destined for greater things.

 

long may our success continue.

[Watt-Zeefuik]

8 minutes ago, Jambo in Bathgate said:

Very true. Nelson first time round was very good appointment. Second time he got us promoted and 3rd again. But he made big mistakes with a few player signings that destabilised the dressing room as did Levein. Naismith has been a breath of fresh air. Like Alex MacDonald and Sandy Jardine he has a winning mentality and is passing it onto our squad. 

 

Yep, each went sour in its own time and Levein's damage is particularly hard to take given the impact it had, but we shouldn't forget that both had strong spells, particularly early.

 

Naisy still hasn't been with us for a full season. Things could go sour with him too. And even if they do, it shouldn't spoil the delight of this run that we're on.

[tharig]

Someone fly an airplane over Gorgie saying how good he is 

[OTT]

10 minutes ago, Tynecastle Valhalla said:

You can tell by listening to Naisy that he knows what he is doing.

 

it just took a while to get the players to understand and then implement it.

 

as a player he was a winner on the pitch and a leader.

 

he also has great experience and contacts.

 

he seems to get hearts from his playing days and is someone who has clearly formed a close bond with the club despite being from a different part of the country and not growing up knowing much about us other than the odd game against us.

 

he will be impressed with the off the field running and the financial stability.

 

he clearly wants to promote the good young players too which is so key for us given the money we spend on youth.

 

neilson rarely did that as he saw it as too much of a risk.

 

he is doing great right now and part of that is the winning mentality he has brought in.

 

Shankland on his own wins points and would be hard to replicate even through two or three players but there will be a succession plan.

 

if the team is not giving enough he will let them know about it and that’s why we see better performances after half time - he’s not afraid to make changes straight away.

 

hearts is also a good job for him to learn his trade even if he is destined for greater things.

 

long may our success continue.

 

I really can't underline enough how important the youth development side of things are for us. 

 

In the same season we qualified for Europe, I think Aberdeen sold Lewis Ferguson & Calvin Ramsay for a combined £7.3m. 

 

Thats ****ing huge money for Scottish football. You pair that with qualifying for Europe too, and you're over £25m comfortably (in terms of total turnover for the club). Fair enough these sorts of sales don't come along every season, but being able to convert young talented players into multimillion pound sales can only happen if you're actually bothering your arse to play them. Robbie was never going to take Academy players seriously unless another Hickey fell in his lap. Andy Irving was rough around the edges, but there was enough of a player there to justify sticking with him. Instead he cut his losses and now he's signed a deal with West Ham. Managers sometimes get things wrong, I totally get it. But Robbie brought through absolutely nobody of note in either of periods as Hearts manager. He could have had John McGinn too, but yet again Neilson passes on a talented youngster...  Gary Locke & John McGlynn did the heavy lifting of the Jamie Walker/Callum Paterson era so by the time Robbie came in all these young laddies had 2 seasons of games under their belts. He didn't do anything particularly brave there at all IMO. 

 

Anyway, my point is that stuff like the hotel or restaurant can give us more money to spend absolutely, but that advantage can be quickly eroded if teams are able make decent player sales. if we can marry the two, where we're developing players and benefiting from the off the field stuff that Budge and the board have delivered, then I think very quickly we'll be able to open up a gap that Aberdeen and Hibs will not be able to easily close. I think in Naisy we absolutely have the man to do that, the run of games we've been on over the last few months I think demonstrates he's got it as a manager, and as a coach I think the young laddies would run through walls for him. 

[SMJ_1874]

6 hours ago, Byyy The Light said:

 

It's not in a club's interest to put someone in who doesn't have the skills to deliver what they want.  It's not like a pilot or a gas engineer or a job where people's lives are at risk due to negligence.

 

It's just UEFA making money.

 

I love the fact Naismith is getting it right round everyone who came out with the "naebadges" patter.

I’ll bet the hobos wished their manager had ‘naebadges’ and were 24 points ahead of us with 12 to play. FTH! 
 

 

The old adage….He who laughs last, springs to mind.
 

Would be the icing on the cake to lift the cup in our 150th year with a rookie manager with ‘naebadges’ 

Edited February 20, 2024 by SMJ_1874

[Byyy The Light]

2 hours ago, Jambo in Bathgate said:

Very true. Nelson first time round was very good appointment. Second time he got us promoted and 3rd again. But he made big mistakes with a few player signings that destabilised the dressing room as did Levein. Naismith has been a breath of fresh air. Like Alex MacDonald and Sandy Jardine he has a winning mentality and is passing it onto our squad. 

I was too young to remember 1986 but read the book over and over when I was growing up. Almost as many times as I watched The John Robertson story on video 🤣

 

This season is panning out on similar lines. Not that I think we’ll get anywhere near as close. A cup would certainly be amazing!

[Jambo in Bathgate]

1 hour ago, Byyy The Light said:

I was too young to remember 1986 but read the book over and over when I was growing up. Almost as many times as I watched The John Robertson story on video 🤣

 

This season is panning out on similar lines. Not that I think we’ll get anywhere near as close. A cup would certainly be amazing!

That last day at Dundee hurt so much. Hey that’s why we support Heart of Midlothian, unlike Rangers and Celtic we are supporters with a soul and go above and beyond for our club. 

[pettigrewsstylist]

On 19/02/2024 at 13:24, Lord Beni of Gorgie said:

Astonishing how many people didn't realise how intense this guy, or realise he is a winner. Would be nice to see him backed in the summer, what he could with another 3 or 4 proper talents would be interesting, very interesting.

Thats the bit that is going to be really interesting. It will probably mean replacing some of our really important players currently.

[Lord Beni of Gorgie]

1 minute ago, pettigrewsstylist said:

Thats the bit that is going to be really interesting. It will probably mean replacing some of our really important players currently.

It will, though I think Naismith seems to have the sum of the parts thing going. His way of playing is getting more out of each person, Shankland is obviously going to be a big loss, can Vargas at least partly fill that hole, and could we use the money to get players who will control games even more, and create better chances?

 

All in due course.

[Hearts1975]

We will take points out of the next 3 games. That said, I don't think we will win all three games either. 

I just hope some remember where we are now, and we don't 

hark back to barking on about sacking the manager, depending on how the results pan out.

He has done enough, more than enough, and for the support to get right behind him, and the players. 

And that includes any sticky spells, poor results or loss of form. 

Would be great if we could really start building something special, and longer term, without ripping up, and finding the need to start again.

Confidence is brimming. Let's try and keep it that way.    

[Geddyalexneil]

Just seen an interview with Naismith via The Evening News talking about Tagawa. The bit I appreciated the most and says a lot about Naismith as a manager/coach is where he takes responsibility for Tagawa not being as effective in his performance against Aidrie and his positioning in the game. He says in the piece "It's probably my mistake in terms of getting that point across to him before he goes on the pitch. I felt he found himself in the wider areas too much when we had the ball against Airdrie, but I would say that's more my mistake than his."

He also says that the club still have high hopes that he can make it here and that some players take a bit of time adjusting. 

I think this shows the sort of guy he is and probably why the players all look like they want to play for him.

 

[HopeDiouf]

Gordon Forrest and Frank McAvoy were getting a lot of stick earlier in the season, when results weren't so great.  McAvoy in particular got A LOT of stick when he was nominally in charge.  Think it's worth acknowledging that all 3 are part of the team doing a great job.

Think I read Forrest in charge of attacking tactics, and McAvoy the defensive side?