Robbie Neilson (N.H.C)

[Watt-Zeefuik]

5 hours ago, 4marsbars said:

 

Typical evidence-free Kickback assessment of a manager whose teams scored goals and won points, loads of them. I enjoyed watching that. 

 

Eye-bleeding? Don't let the facts get in the way.

 

All the best, Robbie Neilson.

 

 

His defensive tactics were holding the squad back to a paltry 1.5 gpg. As soon as he left, we exploded to our current (checks notes) .89 gpg. Defensive shitebag and all that…

 

5 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

They aren’t in the MLS I don’t think. And can’t get promoted into it. 
 

Great lifestyle move tbf.

 

4 hours ago, BackOfTheNet said:

Really? Oh. Then that seems a bit of a weird move.

 

They can’t get promoted through competition but MLS is expected to keep expanding and TB are hopeful of promotion, even with Orlando getting a team. (Because US sport stupidly sees clubs in close proximity to each other as a bad thing.) Winning silverware and drawing crowds are seen as positive so in a way he’s there to get them promoted, just not in the normal way.
 

4 hours ago, IanF86 said:

Rowdy... Robbie... NEILSON!

10/10 no notes

[hisnameis]

Good luck to him and his family. A lifestyle change and a new adventure. For a golfer it is a dream move and a great life experience. Fair play to him.

[Penrices left boot]

1 hour ago, Morgan said:

It’s the colours that trouble me, Tosh.

Yip, minging 

 

 

 

[heartsfc_fan]

Good luck to him

[GavK1012]

47 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said:

That doesn’t prove anything, nobody else has let that out the bag?
Hes never been an Assistant manager. Sounds unlikely to me.

😂🤣😅🤪🫣

[red]

Great move for him and his family. There’s more to life than trying to be the next Alex Ferguson..

 

It didn’t work out for RN in the end and the time was probably right for him to go but he is still one of the best managers in our history and a great servant to our club….

 

All the best Robbie 

[Ricardo Quaresma]

15 hours ago, Jim Panzee said:

should make some happy he's off our wage bill....

 

best of luck to the guy

 

 

Can we have a decent free agent defender for Christmas now, then?

[i wish jj was my dad]

Good move for Robbie. I'm sure it will be an interesting experience and opportunity for him and his family. 

If the rumour about rangers is true, I'm glad he's made the right call. 

[Samuel Camazzola]

7 hours ago, Bazzas right boot said:

Yip, minging 

 

 

 

I forgot about Joe Cole heading out there 

[Pasquale for King]

10 hours ago, GavK1012 said:

😂🤣😅🤪🫣

Hes just taken a job at a team nobody has heard of in a league nobody knew existed, but he was approached to be Assistant manager at Rangers and nobody had heard that 🤔🤷🏾‍♂️😳🤦🏽🤣🤪😂?!?! 

[the posh bit]

Good luck, Robbie. PHM. 

[Shooter McGavin]

Wish him all the best!

 

Cracking quality of life for him and his family out there.

[boag1874]

Good on him - will be well paid & his family will be treated to a great lifestyle. If he does well an MLS club will no doubt be having a look at him

[Taffin]

What a weird job to take 😂

 

Fair play to him and hope he's successful and has a blast.

 

There's no way he took this over being assistant at Rangers.

[Luckies1874]

14 hours ago, Led Tasso said:

His defensive tactics were holding the squad back to a paltry 1.5 gpg. As soon as he left, we exploded to our current (checks notes) .89 gpg. Defensive shitebag and all that…

 

 

 

They can’t get promoted through competition but MLS is expected to keep expanding and TB are hopeful of promotion, even with Orlando getting a team. (Because US sport stupidly sees clubs in close proximity to each other as a bad thing.) Winning silverware and drawing crowds are seen as positive so in a way he’s there to get them promoted, just not in the normal way.
 

10/10 no notes

 

 

When should Big Hearts expect their £50 ?!!  

[Guest]

He should've been sent somewhere like that the day after Brora

[Shooter McGavin]

2 minutes ago, Black Swan said:

He should've been sent somewhere like that the day after Brora

How are you still not over that? it was nearly 1,000 days ago

[Ribble]

20 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

They aren’t in the MLS I don’t think. And can’t get promoted into it. 
 

Great lifestyle move tbf.

 

Many teams in the tier below the MLS (USL) simply wouldn't want promotion due to the logistical costs of moving from east/west USL conferences to the whole country MLS, that said with the MLS now at 29 teams it's possible that the MLS may split into east west also in the next few years 

[Sinbad the Sailor]

Good gig but it's not the old Rodney Marsh Rowdies. No 71,000 capacity ground - in fact they don't even play in Tampa.

 

It's St Petersburg -  cracking place. 7,500 capacity ex- baseball ⚾️ stadium.

 

Player list is poor but they are now owned by The Tampa Bay Ray's baseball team so 💰 no problem. He has half a dozen to add to the team so maybe a few SPFLers will be looking out the factor duffelcoat.

[Smithian]

15 hours ago, RustyRightPeg said:

Do you ever see promotion / relegation making its way into the MLS as the sport continues to grow?

I would love it, but no owner in a franchise model in the US would allow that to happen. Fan bases would abandon them in droves and loss of TV money would crush them. Parachute payments may save the finances, but not crowds. 

 

I have no problem admitting pure proximity means I spend more on my MLS team than I do Hearts. Lots of games, swag. The atmosphere is fun. The quality of play is often really good, especially as you’re getting more competitive internationals from abroad versus retirement league types. I really believe, on the field, MLS someday can be right outside of the big ones. TV money, beautiful new stadiums popping up everywhere, real investment paying off in youth development, growing crowds, all great vibes.

 

Saying that, I follow Hearts closer because football/soccer is not built for a playoff system. I could get over lack of relegation, but the playoffs just are a poor fit for the sport. I think any Hearts fan on this board with an open mind would love the experience at any MLS stadium, but they’d tune out the second the roster and postseason models were explained. 

 

To bring it back to Robbie, I think USL is doing really well and he’ll thrive. The cost of entry is cheaper and fanbases love it. If he does some winning, he could find himself at an MLS club which would be a damn good gig to make buckets of money coaching big name players in big cities. He’s young. He has time. 

 

I just can’t wait to see what random Hearts Robbie brings to The Big Guava. 

[DesertDawg]

4 hours ago, Jim_Duncan said:

I was in Tampa a couple of weeks ago. Decent place and friendly folks. Great hockey, too - no idea about the soccer ball. 

 

😏 October is much better than July. 

[Watt-Zeefuik]

30 minutes ago, Smithian said:

I would love it, but no owner in a franchise model in the US would allow that to happen. Fan bases would abandon them in droves and loss of TV money would crush them. Parachute payments may save the finances, but not crowds. 

 

I have no problem admitting pure proximity means I spend more on my MLS team than I do Hearts. Lots of games, swag. The atmosphere is fun. The quality of play is often really good, especially as you’re getting more competitive internationals from abroad versus retirement league types. I really believe, on the field, MLS someday can be right outside of the big ones. TV money, beautiful new stadiums popping up everywhere, real investment paying off in youth development, growing crowds, all great vibes.

 

Saying that, I follow Hearts closer because football/soccer is not built for a playoff system. I could get over lack of relegation, but the playoffs just are a poor fit for the sport. I think any Hearts fan on this board with an open mind would love the experience at any MLS stadium, but they’d tune out the second the roster and postseason models were explained. 

 

To bring it back to Robbie, I think USL is doing really well and he’ll thrive. The cost of entry is cheaper and fanbases love it. If he does some winning, he could find himself at an MLS club which would be a damn good gig to make buckets of money coaching big name players in big cities. He’s young. He has time. 

 

I just can’t wait to see what random Hearts Robbie brings to The Big Guava. 

The only way I can see it happening is if MLS itself splits into leagues with big revenue sharing deals so that relegated teams get big payments even if they’ve been in the lowest leagues for years.

 

The US sport that most desperately needs it is baseball though. 

[Morgan]

1 hour ago, Black Swan said:

He should've been sent somewhere like that the day after Brora

[GavK1012]

5 hours ago, Pasquale for King said:

Hes just taken a job at a team nobody has heard of in a league nobody knew existed, but he was approached to be Assistant manager at Rangers and nobody had heard that 🤔🤷🏾‍♂️😳🤦🏽🤣🤪😂?!?! 

If you knew anything re Donkey's relationship with Robbie you wouldn't be typing such daft stuff...end of...

 

👌👍

 

Chin Chin...

[DesertDawg]

1 hour ago, Smithian said:

I would love it, but no owner in a franchise model in the US would allow that to happen. Fan bases would abandon them in droves and loss of TV money would crush them. Parachute payments may save the finances, but not crowds. 

 

I have no problem admitting pure proximity means I spend more on my MLS team than I do Hearts. Lots of games, swag. The atmosphere is fun. The quality of play is often really good, especially as you’re getting more competitive internationals from abroad versus retirement league types. I really believe, on the field, MLS someday can be right outside of the big ones. TV money, beautiful new stadiums popping up everywhere, real investment paying off in youth development, growing crowds, all great vibes.

 

Saying that, I follow Hearts closer because football/soccer is not built for a playoff system. I could get over lack of relegation, but the playoffs just are a poor fit for the sport. I think any Hearts fan on this board with an open mind would love the experience at any MLS stadium, but they’d tune out the second the roster and postseason models were explained. 

 

To bring it back to Robbie, I think USL is doing really well and he’ll thrive. The cost of entry is cheaper and fanbases love it. If he does some winning, he could find himself at an MLS club which would be a damn good gig to make buckets of money coaching big name players in big cities. He’s young. He has time. 

 

I just can’t wait to see what random Hearts Robbie brings to The Big Guava. 

 

That's a neat analysis.

 

 

[DesertDawg]

1 hour ago, Led Tasso said:

The only way I can see it happening is if MLS itself splits into leagues with big revenue sharing deals so that relegated teams get big payments even if they’ve been in the lowest leagues for years.

 

The US sport that most desperately needs it is baseball though. 

 

The biggest difference with MLS/USL is that only 52 teams exist in all of the U.S. and Canada by comparison with 1,150 in Europe.  Promotion / Relegation is really not an issue with so few teams in only two leagues so the play-offs take that place in the league structures.

 

The biggest issue right now then is expansion.  MLS currently has 29 teams although they're  expanding to 30 with the addition of San Diego.

 

https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2023/05/san-diego-mls-expansion-team-unveiled/#:~:text=With it increasingly looking like,playing out of Snapdragon Stadium.

 

In a couple of years or so, despite denials, that is likely to go up to 32 with the addition of Las Vegas, NV and maybe, depending upon financing, Phoenix, AZ.

 

Meanwhile USL is actively looking to expand to 40 teams in the next few years.

 

 

[Watt-Zeefuik]

1 hour ago, DesertDawg said:

 

The biggest difference with MLS/USL is that only 52 teams exist in all of the U.S. and Canada by comparison with 1,150 in Europe.  Promotion / Relegation is really not an issue with so few teams in only two leagues so the play-offs take that place in the league structures.

 

The biggest issue right now then is expansion.  MLS currently has 29 teams although they're  expanding to 30 with the addition of San Diego.

 

https://soccerstadiumdigest.com/2023/05/san-diego-mls-expansion-team-unveiled/#:~:text=With it increasingly looking like,playing out of Snapdragon Stadium.

 

In a couple of years or so, despite denials, that is likely to go up to 32 with the addition of Las Vegas, NV and maybe, depending upon financing, Phoenix, AZ.

 

Meanwhile USL is actively looking to expand to 40 teams in the next few years.

 

 

And at some level you can’t have a sane national competition with over 40 teams. Every other pro league has stopped at 32. (Again, baseball can and should expand well beyond but that requires something other than the minor league system that exists now.)

 

Americans have shown abundant interest in soccer in person but almost no interest in watching MLS on TV. (And why would we when there’s so much European football that’s so much better on TV?) So the logical thing is to keep adding clubs. But how do you keep that from becoming unwieldy?

[DesertDawg]

25 minutes ago, Led Tasso said:

Americans have shown abundant interest in soccer in person but almost no interest in watching MLS on TV. (And why would we when there’s so much European football that’s so much better on TV?) So the logical thing is to keep adding clubs. But how do you keep that from becoming unwieldy?

 

That's true to a certain extent but Apple TV does seem keen to up it's subscription numbers especially after they surged once Messi signed for Miami. 

 

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/apple-tv-sports-change-mls-mlb/?zephr_sso_ott=84FRQN

[briever]

2 minutes ago, DesertDawg said:

 

That's true to a certain extent but Apple TV does seem keen to up it's subscription numbers especially after they surged once Messi signed for Miami. 

 

https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/apple-tv-sports-change-mls-mlb/?zephr_sso_ott=84FRQN

 

That show is dreadful - complete marketing fluff.

[The Real Maroonblood]

6 hours ago, Black Swan said:

He should've been sent somewhere like that the day after Brora

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

WORRA WORLD CLASS JOB FOR ROBERT SNORESON!

 

[Watt-Zeefuik]

Every now and again I get updates from the US: Championship or whatever it's called now.

 

Rowdies in third place, have won exactly 50% of their games.

 

You can't say the man isn't consistent.

[twjambo]

He’s a good coach with a good track record. 

[i wish jj was my dad]

11 hours ago, twjambo said:

He’s a good coach with a good track record. 

Of course he is. He has dug us out of a hole twice and plateaued when he reached his level. 

History will treat him kindly. 

[Canscot]

Excuse my ignorance but what does (N.H.C.) in the thread title mean?

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, Canscot said:

Excuse my ignorance but what does (N.H.C.) in the thread title mean?

Non Hearts Content. 

[Canscot]

48 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Non Hearts Content. 

👍

[YYZ]

3 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said:

Non Hearts Content. 

 I always thought it was Not Hearts Connected  

 

Every day is a school day.

[CostaJambo]

3 minutes ago, queensferryjambo said:

 I always thought it was Not Hearts Connected  

 

Every day is a school day.

Same here. Maybe has different meanings to different people.

[tian447]

3 hours ago, Canscot said:

Excuse my ignorance but what does (N.H.C.) in the thread title mean?

 

No Hobo *****. 

 

It should be on every thread

 

 

[Canscot]

16 minutes ago, tian447 said:

 

No Hobo *****. 

 

It should be on every thread

 

 

😂😂😂Nice one!

[Canscot]

18 minutes ago, CostaJambo said:

Same here. Maybe has different meanings to different people.

Except me!  For the life of me I could not think what it meant. But now I know!  Mibbbeee!

[HeartsandonlyHearts]

On 14/08/2024 at 12:45, Watt-Zeefuik said:

Every now and again I get updates from the US: Championship or whatever it's called now.

 

Rowdies in third place, have won exactly 50% of their games.

 

You can't say the man isn't consistent.

This post is along the lines of the 1 in 10 for Hearts.

50% is correct. But it’s 22 games, 11 wins, 7 draws and 4 losses. Now you don’t say it’s bad but you also don’t say it’s decent. After 22 game last year we had 12 wins 3 draws and 7 losses.

40 points to 39.

Which 22 game run is better?

 

[Rudi5kaceldream1ng]

He seems to be doing a half decent job tbf as he usually does. 

 

I think the rowdies have been trying to get into the mls as an expansion team for years. 

 

They'll probs eventually make it but need a few things to fall in their favour. 

[Pasquale for King]

Paterson going there on loan 🤔😜?!?!

[Chaps]

Bring him home

 

 

 

 

[Smithian]

Won a playoff game last season. Dealt with Hurricane issues at the stadium. Four straight away matches, where they did pick up a win.

 

There must have been something poisonous off the pitch because this is a surprise.

[The Real Maroonblood]

3 minutes ago, Chaps said:

Bring him home

 

 

 

 

You might get a few bites.

[Scott Leitch]

Wee Tosh will be in bits.

[The Real Maroonblood]

3 minutes ago, Scott Leitch said:

Wee Tosh will be in bits.

Probably.

Edited April 11 by The Real Maroonblood