Israel and Palestine

[JudyJudyJudy]

 

[Jacques de Gauthier]

I’m sure the Palestinians will be flying Celtic facts out of sympathy with their East Glasgow downtrodden brethren today. 

[Nookie Bear]

On 24/10/2025 at 18:34, Malinga the Swinga said:

Good to see that immigration discussed on Question Time last night as it is a subject that has a direct bearing on the UK and it's citizens.

About time is was taken seriously and recognised as a priority issue instead of a conflict in the Middle East that only a tiny fraction of people have a real interest in.

 

 

Which one of those topics is more directly relevant to the lives of the British people?

[Malinga the Swinga]

1 minute ago, Nookie Bear said:

 

Which one of those topics is more directly relevant to the lives of the British people?

It's perfectly clear on my post. 

[Nookie Bear]

1 minute ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

It's perfectly clear on my post. 

 

It is.

 

British politics seems consumed by Israel/Palestine and it is clouding opinion on the day to day issues affecting us.

[Malinga the Swinga]

Just now, Nookie Bear said:

 

It is.

 

British politics seems consumed by Israel/Palestine and it is clouding opinion on the day to day issues affecting us.

Which is why immigration issue was correctly discussed on Question Time. Contrary to opinions of left, immigration concerns far more people in UK than Palestine/Israel.

 

[The Mighty Thor]

The war criminal back at the bombing👍

 

Wibble wibble breaches of the deal etc etc 

[Malinga the Swinga]

100% of the blame for any restart of conflict can be laid at the door of Hamas and nobody else. Posters can post stupid comments, wobble or wibble, about whatever they want but if Hamas believed they could get away with not fulfilling their part of peace agreement, they were warned what would happen. 

 

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

The war criminal back at the bombing👍

 

Wibble wibble breaches of the deal etc etc 

No surprise there.

[Cameronstheman]

Israel launches strikes on Gaza, reports say, after Netanyahu orders 'powerful' attacks - live updates - BBC News

[manaliveits105]

49 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

100% of the blame for any restart of conflict can be laid at the door of Hamas and nobody else. Posters can post stupid comments, wobble or wibble, about whatever they want but if Hamas believed they could get away with not fulfilling their part of peace agreement, they were warned what would happen. 

 

Fair comment 

[Costanza]

4 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

100% of the blame for any restart of conflict can be laid at the door of Hamas and nobody else. Posters can post stupid comments, wobble or wibble, about whatever they want but if Hamas believed they could get away with not fulfilling their part of peace agreement, they were warned what would happen. 

 

Another stunning forensic assessment of the situation Gaza, where would we be without you.

 

Anyway in other news...

 

"The criminal corruption trial hearing of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was cut short on Tuesday due to "security developments".

 

(This is the 12th delay since 2020)

 

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/politics-and-diplomacy/article-871968

 

[Diadora Van Basten]

Israel has now ethnically cleansed and stolen 52% of the Gaza Strip and put a buffer zone of 100 metres on the Palestinian side.

 

The stolen land is described in dystopian language by Donald Trumps son in law as “Free Gaza” while the Palestinian side he calls “Hamas Gaza”.

Building is allowed on the stolen land but not on the Palestinian side as the population faces winter in tents 

The Palestinian population of 2.2 million less those murdered by Israel are now confined to land that is 20 miles long and only 2 miles wide. 
 

There are plans to build AI centres for US billionaires on the stolen land. 

Edited November 2 by Diadora Van Basten

[il Duce McTarkin]

2 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said:

 

There are plans to build AI centres for US billionaires on the stolen land. 

 

Decent land use, tbf, although I'm not sure where they'll get the required water from.

[Dennis Denuto]

On 02/11/2025 at 07:28, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

Decent land use, tbf, although I'm not sure where they'll get the required water from.

From the river to the sea surely??

[il Duce McTarkin]

32 minutes ago, Dennis Denuto said:

From the river to the sea surely??

 

Not much flow in the Jordan last time I was down by Bethany Beyond.

[Diadora Van Basten]

If there is one story that sums up the Israel Palestine conflict and destroys Israel’s narrative that they are a democracy protecting the civilised world it’s this one.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0kpd97qqko

“The former top lawyer in the Israeli military has been arrested, as a political showdown deepens over the leaking of a video that allegedly shows severe abuse of a Palestinian detainee by Israeli soldiers.”

 

“Broadcast in August 2024 on an Israeli news channel, the footage shows reserve soldiers at the Sde Teiman military base in southern Israel taking aside a detainee, then surrounding him with riot shields to block visibility while he was allegedly beaten and stabbed in the rectum with a sharp object.

The detainee was treated for severe injuries.”

 

“Last week, a criminal investigation was launched into the leaking of the video.

Gen Tomer-Yerushalmi was put on leave while the inquiry took place.

On Friday, Defence Minister Israel Katz said she would not be allowed to return to her post.”

 

 

So in Israel raping Palestinian prisoners in jail is not regarded as a crime by the Government.
 

The crime is doing damage to Israel’s image Internationally by filming and leaking Israeli prison guards raping Palestinian prisoners so that the world can see who they really are. Colonial land stealers who have subjected the indigenous people of Palestine that they label terrorists to cruel and inhumane treatment. 

Edited November 5 by Diadora Van Basten

[JudyJudyJudy]

Oh what a surprise 

 

 

 

[XB52]

A good unbiased report from Heidi. Oh she works for the Jewish chronicle 😃😃

[Jacques de Gauthier]

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/05/middleeast/israel-hostage-braslavski-abuse-intl
 

Now the stories about the treatment of the Israeli hostages start. Horrific. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

23 minutes ago, XB52 said:

A good unbiased report from Heidi. Oh she works for the Jewish chronicle 😃😃

Oh let’s shoot the messenger . Your usual strategy . And don’t get me started about unbiased reporting ? This whole thread is one love letter to Palestine /Gaza . Bad Israel . 

[JudyJudyJudy]

11 minutes ago, Jacques de Gauthier said:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/05/middleeast/israel-hostage-braslavski-abuse-intl
 

Now the stories about the treatment of the Israeli hostages start. Horrific. 

Shocking 

[indianajones]

8 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Shocking 

 

CNN has approached Palestinian Islamic Jihad for comment.

 

[Taffin]

18 minutes ago, indianajones said:

 

CNN has approached Palestinian Islamic Jihad for comment.

 

 

Derka derka

Edited November 6 by Taffin

[indianajones]

Just now, Taffin said:

 

Durka durka

 

[Malinga the Swinga]

34 minutes ago, Jacques de Gauthier said:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/05/middleeast/israel-hostage-braslavski-abuse-intl
 

Now the stories about the treatment of the Israeli hostages start. Horrific. 

Are you surprised? You can expect the usual job Hamas correspondents to come back with their excuses and justifications, no doubt accompanied by You Tube videos and Al Jazeera reports released by Hamas under guise of Palestinian authority. There'll be whataboutery, deflection and all sorts of shit but there won't ever be any empathy to Israel and it's citizens.

Oh and it will be claimed not to be anti semitic, it will be anti Zionist/anti Israel, anti Israeli because none of them have the guts to come out and say what they really feel. That just makes them cowards as well as being gullible fools.

Then it will be show me the comments because they're well aware of the deletions earlier on.

 

[Malinga the Swinga]

6 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Derka derka

Had to look up phrase used. Apparently it's an offensive ethnic slur used to mock Middle Eastern or Punjabi speech. Why are you using it?

[Taffin]

7 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Had to look up phrase used. Apparently it's an offensive ethnic slur used to mock Middle Eastern or Punjabi speech. Why are you using it?

 

Read the post it's responding to, who was quoting the article posted and it should make sense to anyone with half a brain.

Edited November 6 by Taffin

[Diadora Van Basten]

1 hour ago, indianajones said:

 

CNN has approached Palestinian Islamic Jihad for comment.

 

CNN was recently purchased by Larry Ellison specifically to use it for Zionist propaganda. He has also Purchased TikTok for the same reason.
 

Many Conservative commentators in the US are fed up with Zionist Billionaires buying US Foreign policy to make it Israel First instead of America First and there is a backlash against Zionist Billionaires. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr4qwwk0g0yo.amp

[Jacques de Gauthier]

2 hours ago, indianajones said:

 

CNN has approached Palestinian Islamic Jihad for comment.

 

…

 

36 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said:

CNN was recently purchased by Larry Ellison specifically to use it for Zionist propaganda. He has also Purchased TikTok for the same reason.
 

Many Conservative commentators in the US are fed up with Zionist Billionaires buying US Foreign policy to make it Israel First instead of America First and there is a backlash against Zionist Billionaires. 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr4qwwk0g0yo.amp

[il Duce McTarkin]

6 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Had to look up phrase used. Apparently it's an offensive ethnic slur used to mock Middle Eastern or Punjabi speech. Why are you using it?

 

 

 

[Diadora Van Basten]

8 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Are you surprised? You can expect the usual job Hamas correspondents to come back with their excuses and justifications, no doubt accompanied by You Tube videos and Al Jazeera reports released by Hamas under guise of Palestinian authority. There'll be whataboutery, deflection and all sorts of shit but there won't ever be any empathy to Israel and it's citizens.

Oh and it will be claimed not to be anti semitic, it will be anti Zionist/anti Israel, anti Israeli because none of them have the guts to come out and say what they really feel. That just makes them cowards as well as being gullible fools.

Then it will be show me the comments because they're well aware of the deletions earlier on.

 

There have been some great YouTube videos lately:

 

Candace Owen and Norman Finkelstein 2 and a half hour deep dive into Gaza.

Dave Smith and Tucker Carlson discuss the hold Israel over US government.

Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson two people who did not like each other come together to discuss Israel hold over the US government. 
 

If you don’t like YouTube videos then I would highly recommend Peter Osborne’s book “Complicit - Britain’s role in the destruction of Gaza”. 

[doctor jambo]

23 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said:

There have been some great YouTube videos lately:

 

Candace Owen and Norman Finkelstein 2 and a half hour deep dive into Gaza.

Dave Smith and Tucker Carlson discuss the hold Israel over US government.

Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson two people who did not like each other come together to discuss Israel hold over the US government. 
 

If you don’t like YouTube videos then I would highly recommend Peter Osborne’s book “Complicit - Britain’s role in the destruction of Gaza”. 

Explains the stance you take when those lot are your sources- Groypers, weirdos, anti semites and conspiracy theorists..

 

[Malinga the Swinga]

3 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

 

 

Cheers, I haven't seen it so no idea what he's on about 

[il Duce McTarkin]

10 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Cheers, I haven't seen it so no idea what he's on about 

 

You should watch it. 

The longer time goes on the more it looks like a documentary.

[Costanza]

19 minutes ago, doctor jambo said:

Explains the stance you take when those lot are your sources- Groypers, weirdos, anti semites and conspiracy theorists..

 

I certainly wouldn't be citing Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson but Peter Oborne is a journalist of the highest repute

 

Watched this interview recently and it was frankly embarrassing how inept Edmund Fitton-Browne is here

 

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

54 minutes ago, Diadora Van Basten said:

There have been some great YouTube videos lately:

 

Candace Owen and Norman Finkelstein 2 and a half hour deep dive into Gaza.

Dave Smith and Tucker Carlson discuss the hold Israel over US government.

Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson two people who did not like each other come together to discuss Israel hold over the US government. 
 

If you don’t like YouTube videos then I would highly recommend Peter Osborne’s book “Complicit - Britain’s role in the destruction of Gaza”. 

Candance Owen’s is currently having a break down of sorts . She’s off her trolley re nonsense conspiracy theories re Charlie Kirk’s death . So I wouldn’t be citing her as a good honest source on this issue . She’s a laughing stock just now 

[Jeffros Furios]

1 hour ago, Diadora Van Basten said:

There have been some great YouTube videos lately:

 

Candace Owen and Norman Finkelstein 2 and a half hour deep dive into Gaza.

Dave Smith and Tucker Carlson discuss the hold Israel over US government.

Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson two people who did not like each other come together to discuss Israel hold over the US government. 
 

If you don’t like YouTube videos then I would highly recommend Peter Osborne’s book “Complicit - Britain’s role in the destruction of Gaza”. 

You really listen to that rabble of grifters  ?  I'm surprised you didn't mention Sacks .

[Diadora Van Basten]

1 hour ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Candance Owen’s is currently having a break down of sorts . She’s off her trolley re nonsense conspiracy theories re Charlie Kirk’s death . So I wouldn’t be citing her as a good honest source on this issue . She’s a laughing stock just now 

If you compare Candace’s podcast to her old boss and Zionist Neo Con Ben Shapiro, Candace viewing figures are ten times that of Ben Shapiro and growing whilst Ben’s are falling. 
 

This reflects that Americans are rejecting  Zionist lies and narrative and adopting a more Palestinian stance. 

[Diadora Van Basten]

1 hour ago, Jeffros Furios said:

You really listen to that rabble of grifters  ?  I'm surprised you didn't mention Sacks .

Professor Sachs and Mearsheimer are fantastic. Both explain how in the 90s rather than make peace with the Palestinians, Netanyahu incited the murder of the Israeli prime minister then used the US to attack all the countries that supported Palestine and funded Hamas so there was no one to make peace with. 

[doctor jambo]

1 hour ago, Diadora Van Basten said:

If you compare Candace’s podcast to her old boss and Zionist Neo Con Ben Shapiro, Candace viewing figures are ten times that of Ben Shapiro and growing whilst Ben’s are falling. 
 

This reflects that Americans are rejecting  Zionist lies and narrative and adopting a more Palestinian stance. 

candace who is being pursued for insisting Macron's wife is a dude?

She used to be watchable, but has fallen down a rabbit hole and is now less reliable that Alex Jones- at least he was right about Bohemian Grove.

she's gone full mental

the others are anti semites and lunatic Groypers

if you are part of that scene, at least admit it and own it, and you can therefore be utterly ignored

[Diadora Van Basten]

5 minutes ago, doctor jambo said:

candace who is being pursued for insisting Macron's wife is a dude?

She used to be watchable, but has fallen down a rabbit hole and is now less reliable that Alex Jones- at least he was right about Bohemian Grove.

she's gone full mental

the others are anti semites and lunatic Groypers

if you are part of that scene, at least admit it and own it, and you can therefore be utterly ignored

Funnily enough I read about Alex Jones at Bohemian Grove in Jon Ronsons book “Them”.
 

I don’t agree with Candace, Tucker or Fuentes on every issue and have no interest in Macron’s wife.

 

I noticed that nobody mentioned Norman Finkelstein who speaks for about 95% of the interview with Candace.
 

Perhaps if you watched the interview you might actually learn something but to be honest I think you deliberately choose to be ignorant as the truth about Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians is indefensible. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

13 minutes ago, doctor jambo said:

candace who is being pursued for insisting Macron's wife is a dude?

She used to be watchable, but has fallen down a rabbit hole and is now less reliable that Alex Jones- at least he was right about Bohemian Grove.

she's gone full mental

the others are anti semites and lunatic Groypers

if you are part of that scene, at least admit it and own it, and you can therefore be utterly ignored

Good posting 

[JudyJudyJudy]

Well said Patrick 

 

 

[Diadora Van Basten]

1 minute ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Well said Patrick 

 

 

I noticed that Tommy Robinson got utterly humiliated on his trip to Israel by a Zionist who told him that “British people had a special place in hell”. Tommy Robinson the supposed UK patriot looked down at the ground like a puppy who had just peed the floor. 
 

Since then other UK patriots have been looking into historical terrorism by Zionists against the British Army such as the bombing of The King David Hotel and the hanging of two British soldiers who were booby trapped to kill those who came to cut them down and the arming of Argentina in the Falklands. 
 

When Sunak visited Israel after October 7 the Zionists put out a message about their thoughts towards the Uk by putting him in The King David Hotel. 

[doctor jambo]

1 minute ago, Diadora Van Basten said:

I noticed that Tommy Robinson got utterly humiliated on his trip to Israel by a Zionist who told him that “British people had a special place in hell”. Tommy Robinson the supposed UK patriot looked down at the ground like a puppy who had just peed the floor. 
 

Since then other UK patriots have been looking into historical terrorism by Zionists against the British Army such as the bombing of The King David Hotel and the hanging of two British soldiers who were booby trapped to kill those who came to cut them down and the arming of Argentina in the Falklands. 
 

When Sunak visited Israel after October 7 the Zionists put out a message about their thoughts towards the Uk by putting him in The King David Hotel. 

Im not a fan of radical zionists, but im less a fan of radical islamists.

Zionists carry a zero % chance of killing my kids in a concert or bus, 

and the fewer radical islamists there are the better ( ask the poor people of darfur who are literally being genocided)

so on that basis, I am more inclined to support Israel- mainly good people with  a few nutters

vs gaza- who appear to be a few good people and mainly nutters

[Diadora Van Basten]

10 minutes ago, doctor jambo said:

Im not a fan of radical zionists, but im less a fan of radical islamists.

Zionists carry a zero % chance of killing my kids in a concert or bus, 

and the fewer radical islamists there are the better ( ask the poor people of darfur who are literally being genocided)

so on that basis, I am more inclined to support Israel- mainly good people with  a few nutters

vs gaza- who appear to be a few good people and mainly nutters

If Israel did kill your kids the UK government would support Israel over you. 

[FWJ]

On 05/11/2025 at 09:42, Diadora Van Basten said:

If there is one story that sums up the Israel Palestine conflict and destroys Israel’s narrative that they are a democracy protecting the civilised world it’s this one.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy0kpd97qqko

“The former top lawyer in the Israeli military has been arrested, as a political showdown deepens over the leaking of a video that allegedly shows severe abuse of a Palestinian detainee by Israeli soldiers.”

 

“Broadcast in August 2024 on an Israeli news channel, the footage shows reserve soldiers at the Sde Teiman military base in southern Israel taking aside a detainee, then surrounding him with riot shields to block visibility while he was allegedly beaten and stabbed in the rectum with a sharp object.

The detainee was treated for severe injuries.”

 

“Last week, a criminal investigation was launched into the leaking of the video.

Gen Tomer-Yerushalmi was put on leave while the inquiry took place.

On Friday, Defence Minister Israel Katz said she would not be allowed to return to her post.”

 

 

So in Israel raping Palestinian prisoners in jail is not regarded as a crime by the Government.
 

The crime is doing damage to Israel’s image Internationally by filming and leaking Israeli prison guards raping Palestinian prisoners so that the world can see who they really are. Colonial land stealers who have subjected the indigenous people of Palestine that they label terrorists to cruel and inhumane treatment. 

Footage of this alleged disgraceful action - hugely embarrassing and potentially damaging to the government - was broadcast on Israeli TV

The Israeli right wing (including the current government) are condemning the leaking, the left wing (active opposition to the current government) are applauding it.  Meanwhile the alleged perpetrators have been arrested and charged with aggravated assault and are awaiting trial?

 

Sounds like the workings of a free media within an active parliamentary democracy operating a rule-of-law.

 

Is this how things were in Hamas-controlled Gaza?

 

[Jeffros Furios]

1 hour ago, Diadora Van Basten said:

Professor Sachs and Mearsheimer are fantastic. Both explain how in the 90s rather than make peace with the Palestinians, Netanyahu incited the murder of the Israeli prime minister then used the US to attack all the countries that supported Palestine and funded Hamas so there was no one to make peace with. 

Sachs is Pro Iran. Pro Russia  anti West anti NATO lying piece of shit .

The others think Hitler wasn't a bad guy and was misunderstood . 

Odious rabble rousing nutjobs .

 

[Jeffros Furios]

43 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Well said Patrick 

 

 

The Villa supporters should of leathered the jihadists .