Is there anything in politics more shit than the Labour Party?

[il Duce McTarkin]

10 hours ago, Gundermann said:

 

Heh. No-one camps it up more than the Fash.

 

 

You only see camp if you're that way inclined, Gundy. Scientific fact.

[Ked]

2 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

You only see camp if you're that way inclined, Gundy. Scientific fact.

😮😀😂

[Morgan]

13 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

You only see camp if you're that way inclined, Gundy. Scientific fact.

Aye, Jude should be back soon.  

[Gundermann]

9 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

You only see camp if you're that way inclined, Gundy. Scientific fact.

 

There's a mystery. 

[il Duce McTarkin]

17 minutes ago, Gundermann said:

 

There's a mystery. 

 

Not really.

 

[Gundermann]

1 hour ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

Not really.

 

 

A hard man, by name and nature.

[John Findlay]

2 hours ago, Gundermann said:

 

A hard man, by name and nature.

I prefer mass murderer.

[Gundermann]

4 hours ago, John Findlay said:

I prefer mass murderer.

 

He was that.

[Ulysses]

Undead man walking?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/apr/27/zombie-politics-keir-starmer-labour?CMP=share_btn_url

 

I guess they'll have to wait to dump Starmer until after they get a kicking at the local elections, but as the article says there's not much point in replacing him with another empty vessel.

[Gundermann]

Corbyn to be dumped by the voters?

 

 

[Victorian]

Tories have forced another debate and a vote to decide if Starmer should be investigated.   

 

Ok,  just keeping it in the news cycle to maximise political capital.   Making sure the sun bakes on the mud that has stuck.   What a pathetic waste of time though.   Starmer wont even attend.

[joondalupjambo]

12 minutes ago, Victorian said:

Tories have forced another debate and a vote to decide if Starmer should be investigated.   

 

Ok,  just keeping it in the news cycle to maximise political capital.   Making sure the sun bakes on the mud that has stuck.   What a pathetic waste of time though.   Starmer wont even attend.

In a funny way I think this is good because anyone with half a brain, less probably sees this is a complete waste of Parliamentary time given how much time is needed to debate, and pass bills that change things, the country badly needs action not petty politics.  I just think it makes Badenoch and her party look stupid, less relevant and even more folk will vote for other parties because of it.  Soft lad will no doubt think it is a wheez though.

Edited April 27 by joondalupjambo

[Victorian]

1 minute ago, joondalupjambo said:

In a funny way I think this is good because anyone with half a brain, less probably sees this is a complete waste of Parliamentary time given how much time is needed to debate, and pass bills that change things, the country badly needs action not petty politics.  I just think it makes Badenoch and her party look stupid, less relevant and even more folk will vote for other parties.  

 

Exactly.   It might reinforce a perception about Starmer to shift a few votes around but also reinforces how pathetic political opposition usually is.   A complete waste of commons time.   Sometimes it might be better to pick and choose which pointless exercises are carried out.   But I don't think Badenoch does self awareness all that well.   

[Footballfirst]

Downing Street released the letter from Chris Wormald to the PM from September last year, in the hope that Labour MPs accept that "due process" was followed and that he didn't mislead parliament. 

 

On the other hand, the letter also confirms that Mandelson was the PM's personal choice "This was a direct Prime Ministerial appointment .........".  Also that the FCDO would seek to "understand and mitigate conflicts of interest .......", so the PM can't claim that he didn't know there were issues raised by the vetting.

 

 

[Ked]

12 hours ago, Ulysses said:

Undead man walking?

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/apr/27/zombie-politics-keir-starmer-labour?CMP=share_btn_url

 

I guess they'll have to wait to dump Starmer until after they get a kicking at the local elections, but as the article says there's not much point in replacing him with another empty vessel.

That article could have been written about the whole political scene.

Started of quite funny but by the end you get to worrying.

 

[Ulysses]

6 minutes ago, Ked said:

That article could have been written about the whole political scene.

Started of quite funny but by the end you get to worrying.

 

 

Starmer has a big majority at Westminster.  Feck all use to him.  Same happened to Johnson.  Now the pretend-we're-not-extreme-Tories are gonna have a go, and it'll be like the Brexiteer headbangers on speed.  It might make a change if someone would get into office and actually practice "government for the people".

[John Findlay]

27 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

 and actually practice "government for the people".

Hell will freeze over first.

[The Mighty Thor]

12 hours ago, Footballfirst said:

Downing Street released the letter from Chris Wormald to the PM from September last year, in the hope that Labour MPs accept that "due process" was followed and that he didn't mislead parliament. 

 

On the other hand, the letter also confirms that Mandelson was the PM's personal choice "This was a direct Prime Ministerial appointment .........".  Also that the FCDO would seek to "understand and mitigate conflicts of interest .......", so the PM can't claim that he didn't know there were issues raised by the vetting.

 

 

He'll be 'furious' with Keir Starmer when he finds out Keir Starmer didn't tell him about this. 

[scott herbertson]

11 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

Starmer has a big majority at Westminster.  Feck all use to him.  Same happened to Johnson.  Now the pretend-we're-not-extreme-Tories are gonna have a go, and it'll be like the Brexiteer headbangers on speed.  It might make a change if someone would get into office and actually practice "government for the people".

 

 

After a I quick recap on British history in my aging brain I can advise that this is highly unlikely to happen

[John Findlay]

2 hours ago, scott herbertson said:

 

 

After a I quick recap on British history in my aging brain I can advise that this is highly unlikely to happen

You have witnessed most of it from the battle of Waterloo onwards😉

[il Duce McTarkin]

17 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

You have witnessed most of it from the battle of Waterloo onwards😉

 

[scott herbertson]

38 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

You have witnessed most of it from the battle of Waterloo onwards😉

 

 

That gets nearer to being true as every yeear passes - 144 years from Waterloo to my biirth, 70 from my birth to now - so it's currently about 30% of history since waterloo

[John Findlay]

4 hours ago, scott herbertson said:

 

 

That gets nearer to being true as every yeear passes - 144 years from Waterloo to my biirth, 70 from my birth to now - so it's currently about 30% of history since waterloo

In all seriousness. You have far more experience of politicians deceitfulness, than I ever(thankfully) will.

[dtgj]

19 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

Starmer has a big majority at Westminster.  Feck all use to him.  Same happened to Johnson.  Now the pretend-we're-not-extreme-Tories are gonna have a go, and it'll be like the Brexiteer headbangers on speed.  It might make a change if someone would get into office and actually practice "government for the people".

To be fair, they have passed a fair amount of legislation using that majority. There's new legislation on renters rights, employment rights, planning rules, nationalising railways, setting up great British energy and some improvements to water company regulation. 

 

I think it's not a bad list for 2 years work. Albeit they probably could and should have done more. 

 

I guess the trouble is that there's no coherent story. It's a collection of stuff. 

[The Real Maroonblood]

2 minutes ago, dtgj said:

To be fair, they have passed a fair amount of legislation using that majority. There's new legislation on renters rights, employment rights, planning rules, nationalising railways, setting up great British energy and some improvements to water company regulation. 

 

I think it's not a bad list for 2 years work. Albeit they probably could and should have done more. 

 

I guess the trouble is that there's no coherent story. It's a collection of stuff. 

They should add BP to their list for nationalisation. 

Unfortunately it would cost too much.

Another Thatcher legacy selling it off.

[Ked]

21 hours ago, Ulysses said:

 

Starmer has a big majority at Westminster.  Feck all use to him.  Same happened to Johnson.  Now the pretend-we're-not-extreme-Tories are gonna have a go, and it'll be like the Brexiteer headbangers on speed.  It might make a change if someone would get into office and actually practice "government for the people".

Integrity mate.

For my small part I'm trying my best to get to that,often failing.

I think that is all we can do on a day to day level and the expression on social media is important.Frim all viewpoints right now because in reality democratically elected are constrained and there's little to argue on.

Aww a dunno.

 

[Ked]

4 hours ago, Ked said:

Integrity mate.

For my small part I'm trying my best to get to that,often failing.

I think that is all we can do on a day to day level and the expression on social media is important.Frim all viewpoints right now because in reality democratically elected are constrained and there's little to argue on.

Aww a dunno.

 

FFS man.

😂

Early finish 

[Ulysses]

It's not a housing market, Keir.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/apr/30/labour-wipeout-local-elections-london-housing?CMP=share_btn_url

 

[Diadora Van Basten]

I am surprised that more isn’t made by the media about Starmer visiting the evil software company Palantir on the recommendation of Mandelson (Palantir allegedly created kill lists on behalf of the IDF in the Genocide). 

 

This visit was not registered as required and Palantir now supply software for the NHS and the army. 

[Ron Burgundy]

I saw a post on social media that the trial of the three rent boys who firebombed Starmers properties started today but has been totally blacked out by the media. 

[Diadora Van Basten]

15 minutes ago, Ron Burgundy said:

I saw a post on social media that the trial of the three rent boys who firebombed Starmers properties started today but has been totally blacked out by the media. 

I heard that also and it is strange that the media reported the damage to Starmer's properties then nothing. There is also a news blackout about the retrial of the Filton 6 and the shenanigans going on there that have led to the defendants having to defend themselves. 

[Serge Pizzorno]

On 30/04/2026 at 09:42, Diadora Van Basten said:

I am surprised that more isn’t made by the media about Starmer visiting the evil software company Palantir on the recommendation of Mandelson (Palantir allegedly created kill lists on behalf of the IDF in the Genocide). 

 

This visit was not registered as required and Palantir now supply software for the NHS and the army. 

Because our media loves Israel more than it loves the UK.

[Dennis Reynolds]

On 30/04/2026 at 16:31, Ron Burgundy said:

I saw a post on social media that the trial of the three rent boys who firebombed Starmers properties started today but has been totally blacked out by the media. 

 

On 30/04/2026 at 16:50, Diadora Van Basten said:

I heard that also and it is strange that the media reported the damage to Starmer's properties then nothing. There is also a news blackout about the retrial of the Filton 6 and the shenanigans going on there that have led to the defendants having to defend themselves. 

 

Not a very good media blackout tbh.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn0p3kkjzl6o

[Mikey1874]

More private schools opened last year than closed.

 

And less closed than before Labour came to power.

 

The Labour Party did say that VAT on private schools wouldn't undermine them. 

[Sydney]

1 hour ago, Mikey1874 said:

More private schools opened last year than closed.

 

And less closed than before Labour came to power.

 

The Labour Party did say that VAT on private schools wouldn't undermine them. 

Thats actually very interesting (I was having a discussion about it recently).  Do you have the stats or a link you can share.

[Japan Jambo]

11 hours ago, Mikey1874 said:

More private schools opened last year than closed.

 

And less closed than before Labour came to power.

 

The Labour Party did say that VAT on private schools wouldn't undermine them. 

 

Recent Department for Education (DfE) figures show that 107 independent schools opened in England in 2025, while 71 schools closed. [1]

This trend of "net growth" occurred despite the introduction of 20% VAT on private school fees. However, the growth is primarily driven by the expansion of special educational needs (SEN) schools, rather than traditional "mainstream" independent schools. [1, 2]

 

From AI sourcing the Independent newspaper.

[Diadora Van Basten]

1 hour ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

Recent Department for Education (DfE) figures show that 107 independent schools opened in England in 2025, while 71 schools closed. [1]

This trend of "net growth" occurred despite the introduction of 20% VAT on private school fees. However, the growth is primarily driven by the expansion of special educational needs (SEN) schools, rather than traditional "mainstream" independent schools. [1, 2]

 

From AI sourcing the Independent newspaper.

People who send their kids to private school are ideological and an increase in costs are unlikely to deter them. They will just cut other expenses to make up the difference. 

[Maroon Sailor]

[Shooter McGavin]

Looking really bad for Labour right now

[manaliveits105]

The Union puppets were given a chance at last election and blew it  - never trust a lefty with your vote. 

[Maroon Sailor]

Grim night for Labour in England

 

Well done Starmer.

[The Mazy Run]

Suspect there will be major pressure on Starmer to resign by the end of the day

[joondalupjambo]

English voters will get a large number of Councils with no majorities.  Could be a good thing if the members work together but if they don't then could be worse for the people in those areas with little getting done and lots of in fighting.

[il Duce McTarkin]

2 minutes ago, joondalupjambo said:

 could be worse for the people in those areas with little getting done and lots of in fighting.

 

 

[Maroon Sailor]

Beff might have to stock up on her hankies if Starmer's position really does become untenable

 

[El Prez]

They're going to get eviscerated here in Wales. Elenud Morgan probably losing her seat too.

 

Many folk I know, have voted Reform for varying reasons.

Edited May 8 by El Prez

[manaliveits105]

John Healy on GMTV still blaming the Tories for Labours poor results after 2.5 years in power 

At what point do governments take responsibility and stop blaming the previous government or in the case of up here Westminster and get on with making things better for the people.

[joondalupjambo]

49 minutes ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

 

Especially in Councils where the it/them/they brigades are now facing dozens of new Reform councillors who are of the complete opposite view.

Popcorn time.

[Maroon Sailor]

6 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said:

John Healy on GMTV still blaming the Tories for Labours poor results after 2.5 years in power 

At what point do governments take responsibility and stop blaming the previous government or in the case of up here Westminster and get on with making things better for the people.

 

5 more years of Swinney blaming WM while taxing even more shit out of people to fund people to lie in their scratcher all day playing computer games.

 

Groundhog day

[Maroon Sailor]

This will be music to Beff's ears. Her hero is sticking around