Is there anything in politics more shit than the Labour Party?

[Mr Moncler]

1 hour ago, Taffin said:

 

Might vote Reform just to piss folk off.

A lot of people thinking like that I reckon. 
I like that Louisa Cunningham or whatever her name is. 
Id vote for her without a shadow. 

[manaliveits105]

[JudyJudyJudy]

39 minutes ago, Mr Moncler said:

A lot of people thinking like that I reckon. 
I like that Louisa Cunningham or whatever her name is. 
Id vote for her without a shadow. 

Democracy 

[Mr Moncler]

5 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Democracy 

Just pure failure of the main parties to do what they’ve been telling the public they’ve been going to do for years and just plain lying to everyone.

Is Farage and Reform the answer? God no but what choice do you have?
More Starmer or whatever Blairite stooge they put in? Badenoch? That lunatic Polansky? Please god none of them again! 
Im afraid we have to gamble this on Farage. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

4 minutes ago, Mr Moncler said:

Just pure failure of the main parties to do what they’ve been telling the public they’ve been going to do for years and just plain lying to everyone.

Is Farage and Reform the answer? God no but what choice do you have?
More Starmer or whatever Blairite stooge they put in? Badenoch? That lunatic Polansky? Please god none of them again! 
Im afraid we have to gamble this on Farage. 

That’s what happens when you demonise whole swathes of the population by not listening to their concerns about a variety of issues. You end up getting a party at least pretending they are listening . Hence their lead in the polls ..

[The Mighty Thor]

[Martin B]

1 hour ago, Mr Moncler said:

A lot of people thinking like that I reckon. 
I like that Louisa Cunningham or whatever her name is. 
Id vote for her without a shadow. 

Depressing stuff.😔

Thank goodness the UK polls aren’t replicated up here.

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

It's ok. Wait till Rachel's budget turns things around!

[JudyJudyJudy]

10 minutes ago, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

It's ok. Wait till Rachel's budget turns things around!

Oh aye . More robbing the hard workers of their cash . 

[Taffin]

So she knew full well it wasn't done as presumably they never billed the outstanding £260 given the application was never processed 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Japan Jambo]

On 30/10/2025 at 21:41, Geoff Kilpatrick said:

It's ok. Wait till Rachel's budget turns things around!

 

She'll banish Labour to the wilderness for another generation. You can only tax and demonise people so much.

[Japan Jambo]

On 30/10/2025 at 22:37, Taffin said:

So she knew full well it wasn't done as presumably they never billed the outstanding £260 given the application was never processed 🤷🏻‍♂️

 

Keir will fire her after the budget, just keeping her around as a human shield at this stage

[Dennis Denuto]

On 30/10/2025 at 17:21, Taffin said:

 

Think you're on the wrong thread, this one's about the Labour party. The whataboutery one is on page 6 I think.

To be pedantic this thread is about things that may be more shit than the Labour party so suggesting Farage is perfectly on topic.

[JudyJudyJudy]

24 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

She'll banish Labour to the wilderness for another generation. You can only tax and demonise people so much.

Yep they are toast 

[Taffin]

14 minutes ago, Dennis Denuto said:

To be pedantic this thread is about things that may be more shit than the Labour party so suggesting Farage is perfectly on topic.

 

I'm absolutely here for that pedantry. 👍😂

[Dennis Denuto]

3 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

I'm absolutely here for that pedantry. 👍😂

I should have added that we are restricted to things in politics that are more shit than labour, so I am not sure how it has made it to 154 pages

[Ulysses]

12 hours ago, Dennis Denuto said:

I should have added that we are restricted to things in politics that are more shit than labour, so I am not sure how it has made it to 154 pages

 

OP's a ******, to be fair.  

[Ked]

8 minutes ago, Ulysses said:

 

OP's a ******, to be fair.  

Good posting

[Ulysses]

Just now, Ked said:

Good posting

 

JKB sweary filter let me down, though. 

[manaliveits105]

20 hours ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

She'll banish Labour to the wilderness for another generation. You can only tax and demonise people so much.

Sir Keir preparing us for Rachael's pre budget speech saying it's worse than they thought - here we are over a year in and it's still the big boys fault who ran away not ours guv honestly . (Straight out the snp playbook) 

[Japan Jambo]

[Taffin]

9 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said:

 

Costs up and money in our pockets down. What a time to be alive. 

[Konrad von Carstein]

4 hours ago, manaliveits105 said:

Sir Keir preparing us for Rachael's pre budget speech saying it's worse than they thought - here we are over a year in and it's still the big boys fault who ran away not ours guv honestly . (Straight out the snp playbook) 

In office for over a year, trying to mitigate and repair the county's finances after 14 years of an inept and, let's be honest, corrupt government...so, aye, they did cause the issues and were more launched into the sea than ran away.

 

NB: not a Labour supporter.

[the posh bit]

On 03/11/2025 at 08:51, Japan Jambo said:

 

She'll banish Labour to the wilderness for another generation. You can only tax and demonise people so much.

 

 

This country is in the wilderness due to the Brexit shambles.

[Geoff Kilpatrick]

14 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

In office for over a year, trying to mitigate and repair the county's finances after 14 years of an inept and, let's be honest, corrupt government...so, aye, they did cause the issues and were more launched into the sea than ran away.

 

NB: not a Labour supporter.

To be fair, the "black hole" was projected well before the last GE. Everyone with half a brain knew Labour and Tory tax commitments would be utter bollocks.

[il Duce McTarkin]

10 minutes ago, the posh bit said:

 

 

This country is in the wilderness due to the Brexit shambles.

 

[Cade]

Quality of goods and services falling.

Wages stagnating.

Infrastructure crumbling.

Corporate profits and share dividends at record highs.

I know the solution; let's smash the poor and squeeze the middle classes!

The social contract has been broken by increasingly weak and compromised Governments over the last 40 years.

The UK is now nothing but a huge cash generator for big business. The entire state has been sold off.

The 6th largest economy in the world but everybody (well, 99% of everybody) is feckin skint.

The people are demanding change. ANY change. The status quo simply won't do any more.

Since nobody else is offering change, Deform are growing in popularity. The change they're offering is regressive, hateful and full fat fascism, but it's change.

Sir Keef's New New Labour are totally oblivious to this.

All they are offering is "more of the same" and this will not do.

[Taffin]

35 minutes ago, Cade said:

Quality of goods and services falling.

Wages stagnating.

Infrastructure crumbling.

Corporate profits and share dividends at record highs.

I know the solution; let's smash the poor and squeeze the middle classes!

The social contract has been broken by increasingly weak and compromised Governments over the last 40 years.

The UK is now nothing but a huge cash generator for big business. The entire state has been sold off.

The 6th largest economy in the world but everybody (well, 99% of everybody) is feckin skint.

The people are demanding change. ANY change. The status quo simply won't do any more.

Since nobody else is offering change, Deform are growing in popularity. The change they're offering is regressive, hateful and full fat fascism, but it's change.

Sir Keef's New New Labour are totally oblivious to this.

All they are offering is "more of the same" and this will not do.

 

Starmer is Farage's most effective salesman. It's utterly depressing.

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

50 minutes ago, Taffin said:

 

Starmer is Farage's most effective salesman. It's utterly depressing.

Farage's solution is to pay people on minimum wage less money.

 

[Malinga the Swinga]

Reeves doesn't even look like she believes what she is saying while speaking. It's so depressing that under qualified folk can attach themselves to a cause and find themselves in positions that enable them to cause so many problems to the majority of people in the country.

UK political parties, and that is all over them from Conservative, SNP, Labour to Reform & Greens are just stuffed full of people who lie without thought, who would sell their children for a vote and who have zero personal integrity. They get caught with hands in till and out come excuses, they get caught lying, out come excuses, they break promises, out come excuses.

We the public don't get away with it either. People who vote for a party regardless of what the party does because 'that's what their parents did' or some other ridiculous reason are part of the problem. FFS, wake up. These politicians are not the same breed as those we had 50 years ago. Blair, Cameron, Brown, Johnson, Truss, Starmer and the rest are cloned politicians who are interchangeable. They lie when they speak, they cheat for personal gain, they believe they're above the law and they hate the people they're supposed to serve.

 

 

Rant over, back to work 

[JudyJudyJudy]

47 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Reeves doesn't even look like she believes what she is saying while speaking. It's so depressing that under qualified folk can attach themselves to a cause and find themselves in positions that enable them to cause so many problems to the majority of people in the country.

UK political parties, and that is all over them from Conservative, SNP, Labour to Reform & Greens are just stuffed full of people who lie without thought, who would sell their children for a vote and who have zero personal integrity. They get caught with hands in till and out come excuses, they get caught lying, out come excuses, they break promises, out come excuses.

We the public don't get away with it either. People who vote for a party regardless of what the party does because 'that's what their parents did' or some other ridiculous reason are part of the problem. FFS, wake up. These politicians are not the same breed as those we had 50 years ago. Blair, Cameron, Brown, Johnson, Truss, Starmer and the rest are cloned politicians who are interchangeable. They lie when they speak, they cheat for personal gain, they believe they're above the law and they hate the people they're supposed to serve.

 

 

Rant over, back to work 

Excellent post 

[John Findlay]

1 hour ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Reeves doesn't even look like she believes what she is saying while speaking. It's so depressing that under qualified folk can attach themselves to a cause and find themselves in positions that enable them to cause so many problems to the majority of people in the country.

UK political parties, and that is all over them from Conservative, SNP, Labour to Reform & Greens are just stuffed full of people who lie without thought, who would sell their children for a vote and who have zero personal integrity. They get caught with hands in till and out come excuses, they get caught lying, out come excuses, they break promises, out come excuses.

We the public don't get away with it either. People who vote for a party regardless of what the party does because 'that's what their parents did' or some other ridiculous reason are part of the problem. FFS, wake up. These politicians are not the same breed as those we had 50 years ago. Blair, Cameron, Brown, Johnson, Truss, Starmer and the rest are cloned politicians who are interchangeable. They lie when they speak, they cheat for personal gain, they believe they're above the law and they hate the people they're supposed to serve.

 

 

Rant over, back to work 

Hence why I spoilt my ballot paper at the last General Election.

[HeartsandonlyHearts]

I see Jeremy Corbyn is campaigning for the NY city mayoral candidate Mamdani in today’s election. 

[Dennis Denuto]

2 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

Reeves doesn't even look like she believes what she is saying while speaking. It's so depressing that under qualified folk can attach themselves to a cause and find themselves in positions that enable them to cause so many problems to the majority of people in the country.

UK political parties, and that is all over them from Conservative, SNP, Labour to Reform & Greens are just stuffed full of people who lie without thought, who would sell their children for a vote and who have zero personal integrity. They get caught with hands in till and out come excuses, they get caught lying, out come excuses, they break promises, out come excuses.

We the public don't get away with it either. People who vote for a party regardless of what the party does because 'that's what their parents did' or some other ridiculous reason are part of the problem. FFS, wake up. These politicians are not the same breed as those we had 50 years ago. Blair, Cameron, Brown, Johnson, Truss, Starmer and the rest are cloned politicians who are interchangeable. They lie when they speak, they cheat for personal gain, they believe they're above the law and they hate the people they're supposed to serve.

 

 

Rant over, back to work 

I am pretty surprised you were such a fan of the Labour Government from the 1970s, right on comrade Malinga 

[Malinga the Swinga]

1 minute ago, Dennis Denuto said:

I am pretty surprised you were such a fan of the Labour Government from the 1970s, right on comrade Malinga 

I never said that although it wouldn't have mattered as I couldn't have voted anyway ( not by much though).

With Wilson, Callaghan and Foot, you knew what their policies were and these guys stuck to their guns. Opposite them sat Thatcher & Heath who again were 'not for turning'. Then you had died in wool politicians who wouldn't have jumped from party to party as they seemed to have a grasp on loyalty and belief.

Now you have grafters who will swap parties depending on how the wind blows.

There should be a rule that if a sitting councillor, MP or MSP changes party whilst they are in elected seat then a by election is called immediately. That would sort a few of these chances out.

[Dennis Denuto]

1 hour ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

I never said that although it wouldn't have mattered as I couldn't have voted anyway ( not by much though).

With Wilson, Callaghan and Foot, you knew what their policies were and these guys stuck to their guns. Opposite them sat Thatcher & Heath who again were 'not for turning'. Then you had died in wool politicians who wouldn't have jumped from party to party as they seemed to have a grasp on loyalty and belief.

Now you have grafters who will swap parties depending on how the wind blows.

There should be a rule that if a sitting councillor, MP or MSP changes party whilst they are in elected seat then a by election is called immediately. That would sort a few of these chances out.

I agree with much of your post but can’t stop myself pointing out that Labour government had Roy Jenkins and Shirley Williams in it, not the most loyal of MPs.  
 

Edit I was 18 years from voting at the start of that government 

Edited November 4 by Dennis Denuto
Additional crap.

[il Duce McTarkin]

5 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

 

Rant over, back to work 

 

That forklift in Dobies Garden Centre isn't going to drive itself.

[Malinga the Swinga]

1 minute ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

That forklift in Dobies Garden Centre isn't going to drive itself.

You think they'd let me loose with a forklift!

[il Duce McTarkin]

3 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

You think they'd let me loose with a forklift!

 

Probably not. 😃👍

[Gundermann]

2 hours ago, Malinga the Swinga said:

I never said that although it wouldn't have mattered as I couldn't have voted anyway ( not by much though).

With Wilson, Callaghan and Foot, you knew what their policies were and these guys stuck to their guns. Opposite them sat Thatcher & Heath who again were 'not for turning'. Then you had died in wool politicians who wouldn't have jumped from party to party as they seemed to have a grasp on loyalty and belief.

Now you have grafters who will swap parties depending on how the wind blows.

There should be a rule that if a sitting councillor, MP or MSP changes party whilst they are in elected seat then a by election is called immediately. That would sort a few of these chances out.

 

Very true.

 

Was yon Churchill not a 2-party man btw? Seem to think he started out Liberal.

[SwindonJambo]

41 minutes ago, Gundermann said:

 

Very true.

 

Was yon Churchill not a 2-party man btw? Seem to think he started out Liberal.

Lee Anderson takes some beating. From hard left Labour to Tory to Reform. 

[manaliveits105]

So the Labour stance on releasing prisoners by mistake is it's the Tories fault 

[Ked]

A mess it seems.

Wtf is going on .

Factions ?

[Ked]

Brian Gardiner giving some home truths.

[Ked]

News night is dynamite

[Ked]

Going by tonights news night.

I'd vote Labour.

Blue Labour makes sense.

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 minutes ago, Ked said:

Going by tonights news night.

I'd vote Labour.

Blue Labour makes sense.

What’s happened on it mate ? 

[Ked]

14 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

What’s happened on it mate ? 

It was very open and for once honest debate.

Good input from everyone..

Judy you and I agree on a lot.

Hope you can see the reform gadgeees are a very bad idea.

Hopefully the conservatives rally back.

But the lack of scruples amongst public life in all levels .

It's been a gradual disintegration.

And everyone's to blame.

[Ked]

Unless off course we as a country grow a set and form our own socially just conservative country.

Use our natural wealth .

Enterprise is our nature.

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, Ked said:

It was very open and for once honest debate.

Good input from everyone..

Judy you and I agree on a lot.

Hope you can see the reform gadgeees are a very bad idea.

Hopefully the conservatives rally back.

But the lack of scruples amongst public life in all levels .

It's been a gradual disintegration.

And everyone's to blame.

Good to see that there may be light at end of tunnel with bbc as they have now been showed to a dangerously biased organisation, captured by various nut case ideologies . Maybe it’s a turning point ? 
 

the problem is Labour Tories SNP and Greens are all a waste of space so where do people turn or do they just not vote ?