Is there anything in politics more shit than the Labour Party?

[Ked]

Sort of rhymed 

 

[Stuart McNeill]

4 hours ago, Kells_On_Jackson said:

Dude is a globalist, everything about him is staged, a blind person can see that, still scratching my head as to how he won an election.

I remember my folks telling me that the first thing he did was cancel the winter payments for senior citizens. Who would have thought the Labor Party would be the ones to do that? That's like something Thatcher would have dreamed up.

Labor/Tories look the same tbh

 

Surely you see it wasn't fair that Jim Ratcliffe and James Dyson were equally entitled to that money as much as wee morag down the road under the previous rules. 

 

Additionally it's not canceled for everyone, those who are the poorest in the country and receive pension credit and other benefits are still entitled to it.

[Gundermann]

Looks legit.

 

[Gundermann]

11 hours ago, BlueRiver said:

 

Labour. 

 

Because not every old person is some poor wee hard up soul. The King could claim it for **** sake. 

 

No. But that's why you have progressive taxes.

 

Or else 'rich people' would have differentiated fares for the buses, tv licenses, prescriptions, seeing GPs etc.

[BlueRiver]

2 hours ago, Gundermann said:

 

No. But that's why you have progressive taxes.

 

Or else 'rich people' would have differentiated fares for the buses, tv licenses, prescriptions, seeing GPs etc.

 

World of difference between those and just bunging £200 to wealthy pensioners. 

 

 

[BlueRiver]

But yes let's keep taxing young people "progressively" (😂) who can't get approved for mortgages in their local areas due to ballooning house prices whilst we give bribes to old asset rich pensioners that get their arse kissed by every government. 

[Gundermann]

2 hours ago, BlueRiver said:

 

World of difference between those and just bunging £200 to wealthy pensioners. 

 

 

 

Maybe, but I understand that the cost of means-testing and sifting through all those who deserve and don't deserve and maybe deserve a bit is time consuming and costly.

[Cade]

Universal benefits are sometimes unjust and inequitable.

The upper middle class family using child support to fund their summer holidays.

The rich pensioners using their winter fuel allowance for booze.

Means testing is a double edged sword. It certainly eliminates these fringe cases but the cost of administering it may result in more expense on admin than it saves in reclaimed benefits.

 

As usual, the UK Government is looking at the issues backwards. It's trying to claw back benefits to save money, but without legislating to reduce the cost of living suffered by the lower income benefit claimants.

I have no issue with reducing the benefit bill. After all, as I have said many times before, many benefits are nothing more or less than a public subsidy on private greed.

I'd rather see public money used for infrastructure projects and the health service than for paying rents and energy bills to profit landlords and greedy energy companies.

 

You cannot simply cut benefits with nothing to replace them and nothing done to address the root problems.

But that is what our morons in Westminster are doing.

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

 

[Gerry1874]

Queer is set to reverse to 2 child benefit cap. Playing up to the free money brigade. A poor decision with what is a sensible policy.

[The Mighty Thor]

35 minutes ago, Gerry1874 said:

Queer is set to reverse to 2 child benefit cap. Playing up to the free money brigade. A poor decision with what is a sensible policy.

Farage has said he would remove it too. 

 

He's not costed it. Mind you he's not costed anything. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

55 minutes ago, Gerry1874 said:

Queer is set to reverse to 2 child benefit cap. Playing up to the free money brigade. A poor decision with what is a sensible policy.

Yep encouraging dependency on the state 

[ƒιѕнρℓαρѕ]

1 hour ago, Gerry1874 said:

Queer is set to reverse to 2 child benefit cap. Playing up to the free money brigade. A poor decision with what is a sensible policy.

 

Ah, so you must favour ramping up immigration over encouraging childbirth, cool 👍

 

Mind you, the childbirth thing would only help 2 decades from now, so we'll need more short to medium term immigration either way.

[Cade]

Children are an investment in the future.

The theory is that they pay vastly more tax during their life than it costs the state to raise and educate them.

But in modern Britain the cost of raising a child has been allowed to get so out of hand that many people are not having kids at all. 

Or the cost of living is so high that they cannot afford to take maternity/paternity leave.

Or the cost of housing being so ludicrous that they can'f afford a larger house to raise the kids in.

 

This isn't just a problem for the UK, mind. The same demographic collapse is happening in most developed capitalist nations. Birth rates are falling sharply and average age of the population is rising.

 

People need the money, time and space to have kids.

And our current system is actively discouraging that.

[JudyJudyJudy]

Aye right .  
 

3 lads who wouldn’t look out of place in a boy band. !!!! Hhhhmmmm 

 

 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/russians-involved-arson-attacks-properties-35282996?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKgFo1leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHinV9IvboqS2pZS29O9qmSJCv9yxpkFQpXMZV5UqTIoq8tFHO-BH8bMDS6a1_aem_V67t-7BcSgprZ75CSadDwA
 

 

[Martin B]

3 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

Farage has said he would remove it too. 

 

He's not costed it. Mind you he's not costed anything. 

He says he has costed it and will pay for it by scrapping hotels for asylum seekers and scrapping Net Zero funding. 😄

[Gerry1874]

3 hours ago, ƒιѕнρℓαρѕ said:

 

Ah, so you must favour ramping up immigration over encouraging childbirth, cool 👍

 

Mind you, the childbirth thing would only help 2 decades from now, so we'll need more short to medium term immigration either way.

Nothing wrong with people having kids but we should do more to support fiscally reposisnble tax payers to have kids with access to child care etc. slamming more money at the fully time yummy mummies to spend down the nail salon is stupidity.

[Gerry1874]

46 minutes ago, Martin B said:

He says he has costed it and will pay for it by scrapping hotels for asylum seekers and scrapping Net Zero funding. 😄

Seems he's paying for an awful lot with those 2 things

[Gerry1874]

1 hour ago, JudyJudyJudy said:

Aye right .  
 

3 lads who wouldn’t look out of place in a boy band. !!!! Hhhhmmmm 

 

 https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/russians-involved-arson-attacks-properties-35282996?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwKgFo1leHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHinV9IvboqS2pZS29O9qmSJCv9yxpkFQpXMZV5UqTIoq8tFHO-BH8bMDS6a1_aem_V67t-7BcSgprZ75CSadDwA
 

 

Come on everyone knows Ukrainian rent boys are the favoured weapon of the KGB.

[Martin B]

19 minutes ago, Gerry1874 said:

Seems he's paying for an awful lot with those 2 things

Indeed. Won’t stop plenty drinking the Kool-Aid though. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

23 minutes ago, Gerry1874 said:

Come on everyone knows Ukrainian rent boys are the favoured weapon of the KGB.

😂😂

[Gerry1874]

Turns out the good people of Hamilton think the SNP are.

 

 

 

[Japan Jambo]

Keir the Incompetent has his arse handed to him again. No doubt they'll try and soak the rich somehow but I think ultimately that they'll need to go after working people after all...

[John Gentleman]

16 minutes ago, Japan Jambo said:

Keir the Incompetent has his arse handed to him again. No doubt they'll try and soak the rich somehow but I think ultimately that they'll need to go after working people after all...

....who, in turn, handed his erse to Reeves. She was not amused, and shed a tear or two. Poor wee thing.
Too many Oxbridge types in the upper echelons of the Labour government.

[Cade]

These useless feckers had 14 years to come with an alternative plan.

All they have is "more of the same".

People are crying out for change and if positive, progressive, equitable change is not being offered, they'll vote for whatever change is being offered, even if it's from the odious Reform.

 

Keef has his heid up his erse and is trying hard to throw away the next election and that's still four years away.

 

[Dawnrazor]

2 minutes ago, Cade said:

These useless feckers had 14 years to come with an alternative plan.

All they have is "more of the same".

People are crying out for change and if positive, progressive, equitable change is not being offered, they'll vote for whatever change is being offered, even if it's from the odious Reform.

 

Keef has his heid up his erse and is trying hard to throw away the next election and that's still four years away.

 

In a nutshell.

[WorldChampions1902]

13 minutes ago, Cade said:

These useless feckers had 14 years to come with an alternative plan.

All they have is "more of the same".

People are crying out for change and if positive, progressive, equitable change is not being offered, they'll vote for whatever change is being offered, even if it's from the odious Reform.

 

Keef has his heid up his erse and is trying hard to throw away the next election and that's still four years away.

 

This government has got 4 years to ditch their Tory-lite policies and start behaving like a ‘traditional’ Labour entity. Their recent attack on the disabled and infirm, coming as it did on the attack on pensioners, is unforgivable and demonstrates just how out of touch they are with their voters.

 

I am not convinced that these Labour leopards are capable of changing their spots, but if they don’t, the Reform hyenas are sitting laughing in the background, waiting for their chance to get into No.10. God help us all.

[Seymour M Hersh]

This mob of student union activists are well on their way to wrecking the country for a generation or more. 

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

By the turn of the year they’ll have done what they promised not to do and raised income tax. They‘ll make excuses for it and promise positive effects which won’t materialise in any form. Then they’ll do some other stuff which doesn’t work, on repeat.

 

middle income earners will completely abandon them at the next election.

[Dusk_Till_Dawn]

14 minutes ago, Seymour M Hersh said:

This mob of student union activists are well on their way to wrecking the country for a generation or more. 

Across the board, a lot of politicians have no discernible talent, and a lot of them have very little life/work experience. They deal in abstract concepts like growth and stability but they don’t have a ****ing clue what’s happening on the average street, or how to make meaningful improvements for people. Plus, they never actually deliver growth or stability. They’re just frauding along until the gig stops, at which point they shift into manufactured private sector which let them coin it, again in spite of their lack of talent.

[Seymour M Hersh]

1 minute ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said:

Across the board, a lot of politicians have no discernible talent, and a lot of them have very little life/work experience. They deal in abstract concepts like growth and stability but they don’t have a ****ing clue what’s happening on the average street, or how to make meaningful improvements for people. Plus, they never actually deliver growth or stability. They’re just frauding along until the gig stops, at which point they shift into manufactured private sector which let them coin it, again in spite of their lack of talent.

 

That's true they don't straight from school/uni into politics. This is the first cabinet in history to have zero private sector work experience. And of course now they don't have the EU to blame for all the bad stuff they have to take responsibility for the clusterfux and don't like that one little bit. 

[The Mighty Thor]

 

 

[jack D and coke]

All Labour (yeah those working class folks) voted against allowing 10 EPL matches to be broadcast free this coming season…

[jack D and coke]

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/britain-is-heading-for-economic-catastrophe/
 

[The Mighty Thor]

28 minutes ago, jack D and coke said:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/britain-is-heading-for-economic-catastrophe/
 

The author makes some great points. Unfortunately for him most of us are old enough to remember who's policies and government got us to the current position. 

 

He appears to have amnesia. 

[Cade]

WHY HAVE LABOUR NOT FIXED 14 YEARS OF ECONOMIC HARM IN 1 YEAR

 

Keir's a shitebag and Reeves is tied to the neoliberal orthodox way of thinking which is responsible for the mess we're in.

They've not fixed it because it's going to take a very long time to fix the last 14 years of ineptitude/thievery and also because more of the same is only going to have the same feckin result.
Nothing they are proposing will have any effect. And everybody knows it.

 

[jack D and coke]

16 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

The author makes some great points. Unfortunately for him most of us are old enough to remember who's policies and government got us to the current position. 

 

He appears to have amnesia. 

One of my points here is unionists demand to know the minute detail of an independent Scotland well where were these forecasts ten years ago? Wasn’t it all better together? Lower energy costs being one of them before we got the highest energy prices in the world??Now we’re going down the kazi are we?

I demand to know the next 30 years in explicit detail from these pricks. 

[The Mighty Thor]

2 hours ago, jack D and coke said:

One of my points here is unionists demand to know the minute detail of an independent Scotland well where were these forecasts ten years ago? Wasn’t it all better together? Lower energy costs being one of them before we got the highest energy prices in the world??Now we’re going down the kazi are we?

I demand to know the next 30 years in explicit detail from these pricks. 

Good luck with that mate.

 

They're preoccupied with immigrants, pretending they give a shit about whether pensioners can pay their bills and trying to justify a Genocide.

 

You can expect chief mammy, too wee too poor, GERS etc coming at you. 

[Ked]

On 25/05/2025 at 14:39, ƒιѕнρℓαρѕ said:

 

Ah, so you must favour ramping up immigration over encouraging childbirth, cool 👍

 

Mind you, the childbirth thing would only help 2 decades from now, so we'll need more short to medium term immigration either way.

Short to medium term import of cheap labour .

Because who else will clean our shit.

The new socialists.

[Ked]

The self loathing from the left .

Shooty in for brainwashing.

 

[Jacques de Gauthier]

18 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said:

They're preoccupied with immigrants, pretending they give a shit about whether pensioners can pay their bills and trying to justify a Genocide.

Just add in 'Buy eggs' and 'Find link for Hearts game' and that's my to-do list for today.

[Gundermann]

15 hours ago, Ked said:

The self loathing from the left .

Shooty in for brainwashing.

 

 

Coming from the right, who shafted the working classes here (looking after our own?) and sold the British people's assets to foreign states and billionaires?

[il Duce McTarkin]

22 minutes ago, Gundermann said:

 

Coming from the right, who shafted the working classes here (looking after our own?) and sold the British people's assets to foreign states and billionaires?

 

Factual post.

[AlimOzturk]

On 10/07/2025 at 17:31, Cade said:

WHY HAVE LABOUR NOT FIXED 14 YEARS OF ECONOMIC HARM IN 1 YEAR

 

Keir's a shitebag and Reeves is tied to the neoliberal orthodox way of thinking which is responsible for the mess we're in.

They've not fixed it because it's going to take a very long time to fix the last 14 years of ineptitude/thievery and also because more of the same is only going to have the same feckin result.
Nothing they are proposing will have any effect. And everybody knows it.

 

It isn’t getting fixed because ultimately Labour are just the same as the tories but dressed up In red ribbons. 
 

it also won’t get fixed with time either. We have had a right torrie government ever since Tony Blair took office. Just different incarnations. 
 

the only real alternative we have been offered is both Jeremy Corbyn who was labelled as a anti Semitic traitor by the press. 

[il Duce McTarkin]

47 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said:

Jeremy Corbyn who was labelled as a anti Semitic

 

His most attractive feature, imo.

Unfairly vilified.

[AlimOzturk]

2 hours ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

His most attractive feature, imo.

Unfairly vilified.

I have actually met and spoke with Jeremy Corbyn. Whilst not agreeing with all his politics i can guarantee if he won over Boris the country wouldn’t be in such the ****ing state it is. People are rebelling but in the wrong way imo. 

[AlimOzturk]

He actually gives a ****. That’s the difference. 

[il Duce McTarkin]

1 minute ago, AlimOzturk said:

Whilst not agreeing with all his politics i can guarantee if he won over Boris the country wouldn’t be in such the ****ing state it is. People are rebelling but in the wrong way imo. 

 

Broadly agree, although if Corbyn had been arsed to put up half a defence we'd still be in the EU. 

[Roxy Hearts]

Just now, AlimOzturk said:

He actually gives a ****. That’s the difference. 

He appears proper Labour so has a little humanity I expect. I've not really paid that much attention.

[Roxy Hearts]

1 minute ago, il Duce McTarkin said:

 

Broadly agree, although if Corbyn had been arsed to put up half a defence we'd still be in the EU. 

We were told to vote No to stay in the EU! Fools going to be fooled.