Ked Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61946038 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 Paid around the same and in some cases less than train drivers. 🤣🤣🤣 Sorry but I can't help finding it funny. But seriously some have posted on here they hope everything grinds to a halt. It's looking like their hopes might be realised.I hope their hopes are not affected .All of this will just add inflationary pressures. And guess who suffers the most from that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locky Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Opened this thinking a certain someone had got their own super thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Not got a terrible amount of sympathy tbh but it does kinda bust the idea that there is some mad commie plot at play to undermine UKPLC. Just about every public service sector is up in arms with how the country is being run. Governments across the UK need to collectively get a grip and quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo89 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, Locky said: Opened this thinking a certain someone had got their own super thread. Snap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indianajones Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, i wish jj was my dad said: Not got a terrible amount of sympathy tbh but it does kinda bust the idea that there is some mad commie plot at play to undermine UKPLC. Just about every public service sector is up in arms with how the country is being run. Governments across the UK need to collectively get a grip and quickly. It's a disaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad von Carstein Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Ked said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61946038 One day you'll realise you have to fight for what you need. Until then Jake/Ked/zlat, stick in at school and you can reap the rewards these folk have awarded you. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Салатные палочки Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 58 minutes ago, Locky said: Opened this thinking a certain someone had got their own super thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That thing you do Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 (edited) Generally speaking the enemy of the working man isnt your fellow working man but the bankers getting bigger bonuses despite an economic crisis, politicians getting over inflation increases and (apparently) Royals getting suitcases of money..if recent heir to the throne stories are to be believed. The rich get richer the poor get poorer and the middle class as it stands is getting hammered 🔨 to pay for it all. Do Barristers count as the working man? Probably not but like doctors, nurses, teachers, rail workers their pay is generally set and for the hours and they do you can argue they deserve sumpathy or not. They are not the issue though, the upper classes are. Edited June 27, 2022 by That thing you do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 New criminal barristers can earn as little as £9,000 once costs, including transport, are factored in, while some barristers say the time they spend preparing cases means their hourly earnings are below minimum wage. Barristers with zero, one or two years of practise earned a median of £25,100 before expenses and a net figure of £18,800 after expenses. Hundreds of Barristers are leaving the profession and intake is falling each year. At a time when court backlogs are at record levels. Just another vital public service which has been hollowed out over the last twelve years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 13 minutes ago, ri Alban said: One day you'll realise you have to fight for what you need. Until then Jake/Ked/zlat, stick in at school and you can reap the rewards these folk have awarded you. 👍 One day was a very long time ago for me and I not only fight for myself but those close to me. It's amusing the zlat patter coupled with the jake stuff. I'd respect your stance a bit more if you were not such a hypocrite . Given the nature of your workers rights posts when it came to the dispute up here. And the fact you got a fekin golf club membership ahead of a season ticket because you couldn't aquire a cup final seat despite not by your own admission attending Tynecastle for years. Finally you spraff some utter pish even for a halfaweejie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 They deserve everything they're asking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Ked said: Paid around the same and in some cases less than train drivers. 🤣🤣🤣 Sorry but I can't help finding it funny. But seriously some have posted on here they hope everything grinds to a halt. It's looking like their hopes might be realised.I hope their hopes are not affected .All of this will just add inflationary pressures. And guess who suffers the most from that? What relevance does train driver's pay have to a barrister? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ked Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 2 minutes ago, graygo said: What relevance does train driver's pay have to a barrister? Both are striking . Comparative wages and on here there's support for the rail strike. The original question and this were imo relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddysBar Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Very low wage for such a highly qualified job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, Ked said: Both are striking . Comparative wages and on here there's support for the rail strike. The original question and this were imo relevant. Don't be fooled by johnson and the Tory media. Train drivers aren't striking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 19 minutes ago, Ked said: Both are striking . Comparative wages and on here there's support for the rail strike. The original question and this were imo relevant. Train driver's aren't striking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, I P Knightley said: Don't be fooled by johnson and the Tory media. Train drivers aren't striking. Exactly. You get arseholes like Shapps quoting average salaries to get folk to think the strikers are being greedy but that figure includes well paid drivers who aren't generally in the RMT and are not on strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, indianajones said: It's a disaster. I'm not old enough to really remember the 70s or the winter of discontent but when almost every sector of public service is up in arms there has to be a common denominator. And this isn't wild lefties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Looking at the wages of junior barristers, absolutely they deserve more pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctor jambo Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Cade said: New criminal barristers can earn as little as £9,000 once costs, including transport, are factored in, while some barristers say the time they spend preparing cases means their hourly earnings are below minimum wage. Barristers with zero, one or two years of practise earned a median of £25,100 before expenses and a net figure of £18,800 after expenses. Hundreds of Barristers are leaving the profession and intake is falling each year. At a time when court backlogs are at record levels. Just another vital public service which has been hollowed out over the last twelve years. My wife’s mate is a single mum of one working 16 hours per week in a bar, between her earnings ( tax and NI free) and her benefits she earns more than a barrister a few years out of law school . Go figure. Drs will be next when they offer us 2% or some such shite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, Ked said: Both are striking . Comparative wages and on here there's support for the rail strike. The original question and this were imo relevant. Train drivers aren't on strike. You could get a job in Government. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Yes I do . I have always admired solicitors as theirs is important role in society , to defend either guilty or innocent . They are essential . Not got an issue with them striking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I P Knightley Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Konrad von Carstein said: This is essential reading. Unfortunately, this who should read it won't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughesie27 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Won't see me grudging anyone the opportunity to Strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Ked said: Paid around the same and in some cases less than train drivers. 🤣🤣🤣 Sorry but I can't help finding it funny. But seriously some have posted on here they hope everything grinds to a halt. It's looking like their hopes might be realised.I hope their hopes are not affected .All of this will just add inflationary pressures. And guess who suffers the most from that? Why have you git such a hard on for Train drivers wages? I think the fact so many barristers are walking away suggests that something isn't right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Swing and a miss again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Ked said: Both are striking . Comparative wages and on here there's support for the rail strike. The original question and this were imo relevant. Train drivers up here haven’t been on strike yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Section Q Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 On 28/06/2022 at 05:55, Norm said: Looking at the wages of junior barristers, absolutely they deserve more pay. So do pensioners/carers/nurses.... Hard to feel sorry for barristers I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Lets get the teachers a nice pay rise and then we can worry about others.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Striker Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 2 hours ago, fabienleclerq said: I think the fact so many barristers are walking away suggests that something isn't right. Yes, that's what I took from the article too. Same with doctors/nurses/dentists. There seems to be a real recruitment & retention problem in all these "well-paid" professional public sector jobs whose expertise we all need from time to time. Pay won't be the only factor - increased pressure to work longer hours to reduce backlogs probably contribute to the problem. So to answer the OPs question - yes, sympathy for all folk who find their work/life/earnings/outgoings balance in turmoil ...... including barristers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 6 hours ago, Ked said: Paid around the same and in some cases less than train drivers. 🤣🤣🤣 Sorry but I can't help finding it funny. But seriously some have posted on here they hope everything grinds to a halt. It's looking like their hopes might be realised.I hope their hopes are not affected .All of this will just add inflationary pressures. And guess who suffers the most from that? If workers want to be paid better, and are willing to withdraw their labour and lose income to fight their corner, that is something to be respected. We might not agree with them, but they can't be accused of not being willing to "walk the talk". As for sympathy? I'm not going to begrudge or look down on some trade unionists just because of their occupation or wages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Boy Named Crow Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Ked said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-61946038 I suppose people will just have to make their own coffees for a change! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i wish jj was my dad Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 I'm quite consistent in my view that relatively well off professions striking over pay makes me uneasy when a lot of people are genuinely going hungry but the link posted earlier did open my eyes a bit. The bigger picture is there is something going very, very wrong in the country when just about every sector of public service is in disarray. There is common denominator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 8 hours ago, 1874robbo said: Train drivers up here haven’t been on strike yet. There's not been many on strike down here either 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 10 hours ago, doctor jambo said: My wife’s mate is a single mum of one working 16 hours per week in a bar, between her earnings ( tax and NI free) and her benefits she earns more than a barrister a few years out of law school . Go figure. Drs will be next when they offer us 2% or some such shite Hopefully you get the 30% you’re looking for. All those telephone appointments must be taking their toll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, IronJambo said: There's not been many on strike down here either 😂 I was thinking LUL had? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 So much of the public sector is in chaos. The government are a disgrace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 1 hour ago, 1874robbo said: I was thinking LUL had? 😂 My bad. Yes they have. They're always on strike though so I don't count them in my mind. Maybe because they're not a TOC or part of national rail in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 13 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: Yes I do . I have always admired solicitors as theirs is important role in society , to defend either guilty or innocent . They are essential . Not got an issue with them striking. Doesn't know the difference between a solicitor and a barrister, no surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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