highlandjambo3 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Riccarton3 said: Agency staff to the rescue by mid July did I hear? Phew. I'm visiting family in August and don't want to take the car. The Lotus can be a bit cramped for a long drive A bit of a rock question from me but agency staff?, I’m confused, I heard this on the news…..agency staff from where? Are their a pile of train drivers sitting at home with nothing to do or (more likely), other train operators in the country will chip in to help out. If the latter I’d assume they’d want a huge bonus and will, might have a knock on effect to their normal service they currently provide. Not sure if it’s been mentioned here but, this could back fire on the rail service. If people are forced to find an alternative travel means they might just stick with that method rather than go back to trusting train operators again….I.e……someone buys an electric bike for their 40mile commute……people car sharing may just stick with what they have etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share Posted June 20, 2022 Think I'm going to have to join this rail agency and just work ad-hoc wherever I feel like. I'm assuming they'll give me a pilotman for every route I don't know (all of them) 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: Thor does though cause it's example of Tories helping their mates. Yes, I know it was all done under Labour government but that doesn't suit the narrative. It doesn't suit your narrative as you've been greeting your eyes out about tax payers cash for weeks yet you're blasé on money being doled out to guys who tanked the economy. Iceland had the right idea. They banged them all up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Reynolds Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 34 minutes ago, IronJambo said: Think I'm going to have to join this rail agency and just work ad-hoc wherever I feel like. I'm assuming they'll give me a pilotman for every route I don't know (all of them) 😂😂 I did some agency work at Waverly years ago over the Christmas period whilst at Uni. They never let me drive a train but I did all the bitch work. Was very well paid tbh. Would recommend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Shapps has a lot to say for a ***** that doesn't want to get involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Mon the railway workers 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pele_Is_God Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Stupid question but I'm meant to be heading to London on the 3rd of July for he stones gig. Is there a big possibilty of there being a strike that day? Just before I start looking at flights... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 6 minutes ago, Pele_Is_God said: Stupid question but I'm meant to be heading to London on the 3rd of July for he stones gig. Is there a big possibilty of there being a strike that day? Just before I start looking at flights... They need to give 14 days notice I believe, but that would need to be confirmed. You would know by end of this week if more strikes planned but going by tone of discussion, no sign of resolution in short term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, Pele_Is_God said: Stupid question but I'm meant to be heading to London on the 3rd of July for he stones gig. Is there a big possibilty of there being a strike that day? Just before I start looking at flights... You should also look at going by bus as an alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Riccarton3 said: Shapps has a lot to say for a ***** that doesn't want to get involved. Aye 3 names is a piece of work . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: You should also look at going by bus as an alternative. I did bus years ago, weekend of Band Aid. It's pretty cheap, reasonably comfortable but it takes an age to get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: I did bus years ago, weekend of Band Aid. It's pretty cheap, reasonably comfortable but it takes an age to get there. I think it’s about 10 hours. Not ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJambo Posted June 20, 2022 Author Share Posted June 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Pele_Is_God said: Stupid question but I'm meant to be heading to London on the 3rd of July for he stones gig. Is there a big possibilty of there being a strike that day? Just before I start looking at flights... No chance of a strike on the 3rd of July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, The Real Maroonblood said: I think it’s about 10 hours. Not ideal. It's a long time, especially if you get stuck next to someone who's a bit heavy or whose hygiene ain't the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 7 minutes ago, Malinga the Swinga said: It's a long time, especially if you get stuck next to someone who's a bit heavy or whose hygiene ain't the best. That’s true. Maybe travelling overnight would be better if you can sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Mackerel Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 So funny! https://news.sky.com/story/mps-to-get-2-200-pay-rise-from-april-after-boris-johnson-urged-restraint-12554941 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Cool Cabbie!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Natrative in the news and the media is awful. All about innocent folks that cant get to work, grannies 90th birthday celebrations or forced to drive to get an important job interview/hospital appointment etc etc etc. Poor public - Evil railway workers. Waiting on the news story about the railway staffs pay, terms, conditions etc. the real story. Right wing facist news outlets dont care about the workers. Theyre telling you who to hate. Again. Protect the profits and the dividend is what their headlines should read!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 57 minutes ago, Space Mackerel said: So funny! https://news.sky.com/story/mps-to-get-2-200-pay-rise-from-april-after-boris-johnson-urged-restraint-12554941 Nothing to see there. Move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1874robbo Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 43 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Natrative in the news and the media is awful. All about innocent folks that cant get to work, grannies 90th birthday celebrations or forced to drive to get an important job interview/hospital appointment etc etc etc. Poor public - Evil railway workers. Waiting on the news story about the railway staffs pay, terms, conditions etc. the real story. Right wing facist news outlets dont care about the workers. Theyre telling you who to hate. Again. Protect the profits and the dividend is what their headlines should read!!! Yeh they are trying to play on the heartstrings just now eh. What about when they cancel a train or trains at the drop of a hat. they don’t give a shit about the hospital appointments, kids getting to and from school, grannies 90th birthdays etc then do they. the only thing rail companies give a shit about is making money for the shareholders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tazio Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 2 hours ago, The Real Maroonblood said: That’s true. Maybe travelling overnight would be better if you can sleep. I used to do the London bus when I was heading to Brighton a lot. Get the last one of the night if you can sleep on a bus and you get into London in the morning. I could leave Edinburgh at 11.30pm and be in Brighton having lunch with a beer the next day. I support the rail workers but rather selfishly it’s a mates funeral in Dundee tomorrow that would have people from all over Scotland at it but some are struggling to work out alternative transport. But any transport action will always throw up stories like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 Great paper the Nazi. Reporting that Labour MPs are on the picket lines of strikes that don't start til tomorrow 😂 A shit rag for half wits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 7 hours ago, The Mighty Thor said: Great paper the Nazi. Reporting that Labour MPs are on the picket lines of strikes that don't start til tomorrow 😂 A shit rag for half wits. You saying there won’t be labour mp’s on the picket line ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manaliveits105 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Labour will be ordered by the unions to attend whilst Sir Beer Starmer blames the Tories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 8 hours ago, 1874robbo said: Yeh they are trying to play on the heartstrings just now eh. What about when they cancel a train or trains at the drop of a hat. they don’t give a shit about the hospital appointments, kids getting to and from school, grannies 90th birthdays etc then do they. the only thing rail companies give a shit about is making money for the shareholders Indeed. Shower. And so are the presstitutes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 15 minutes ago, manaliveits105 said: Labour will be ordered by the unions to attend whilst Sir Beer Starmer blames the Tories Who should they blame? The rail workers for not accepting job cuts, shit pay & conditions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 26 minutes ago, Dazo said: You saying there won’t be labour mp’s on the picket line ? Wont be any tories on it. They will be busy explaining their faux outrage at the industrial action to the BBC before hitting the free bar in Westminster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 The right to strike should always be an option in industrial relations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Wont be any tories on it. They will be busy explaining their faux outrage at the industrial action to the BBC before hitting the free bar in Westminster. Any difference between that and the labour mp’s faux support and just doing what they are told by puppet masters ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pans Jambo Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, JudyJudyJudy said: The right to strike should always be an option in industrial relations Most of the working tights we have started from workers unions or MP’s from a workers union background. Health & Safety Holiday pay SSP Maternity leave/pay We cant allow corporations to erode hard fought workers rights or it’ll be a race to the bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JudyJudyJudy Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 54 minutes ago, Pans Jambo said: Most of the working tights we have started from workers unions or MP’s from a workers union background. Health & Safety Holiday pay SSP Maternity leave/pay We cant allow corporations to erode hard fought workers rights or it’ll be a race to the bottom. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Dazo said: You saying there won’t be labour mp’s on the picket line ? Aye mate. That's the obvious flaw in that front page which came out before the strike even started. Do you ever see what's going on? So that shit-rag hits the breakfast table of your average racist/xenophobe/gammon and they're going to be raging at something that hasn't happened. Exactly as Dacre and Rothermere and Johnson want you to be. On their teat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey J J Jr Shabadoo Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Watching sky news and it's good to see 100% of the commuters that were asked support strike action. Solidarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 42 minutes ago, The Mighty Thor said: Aye mate. That's the obvious flaw in that front page which came out before the strike even started. Do you ever see what's going on? So that shit-rag hits the breakfast table of your average racist/xenophobe/gammon and they're going to be raging at something that hasn't happened. Exactly as Dacre and Rothermere and Johnson want you to be. On their teat. Ah the old 20/20 vision that nobody can see except the Tory haters. I’d rather be on the teat than hanging off the end of his boaby Thor. 😂 The joys of being a mug. 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Be issuing visas soon for non UK rail workers and sell it to the Brexit coastal home front. As long as it's not them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Joey J J Jr Shabadoo said: Watching sky news and it's good to see 100% of the commuters that were asked support strike action. Solidarity. Really? Maybe they see through the emotive shite being peddled by a govt and its press. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 I totally support the strikes. Country is a mess and the government are doing nothing credible or meaningful about any of it. More people need to start causing them a headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusk_Till_Dawn Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said: Really? Maybe they see through the emotive shite being peddled by a govt and its press. Nobody takes politicians seriously. And if you know anything about the sort who work for the Daily Mail etc, they’re privileged people who won’t ever rely on unions so therefore don’t care about them. The idea of the Daily Mail speaking for ‘the people’ is pure comedy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) Does anybody think the full extent of a right to strike should be removed? The Tories want to change the law so that a min level of service remains at all times which only weakens workers position. The erosion of rights just creeps along, a dehumanization of public service work whilst others rake it in until they **** up and are bailed out. And round we go. Edited June 21, 2022 by Riccarton3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 hours ago, JudyJudyJudy said: The right to strike should always be an option in industrial relations Of course. The right to strike is everyone's to choose. There is no right of employment though. If your industry changes, so does your role. If use of your industry goes up, then jobs are advertised, filled and workers work. If use of your industry falls, then jobs are reduced and workers are made redundant and are not happy. Does that sound right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazo Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said: Does anybody think the full extent of a right to strike should be removed? The Tories want to change the law so that a min level of service remains at all times which only weakens workers position. The erosion of rights just creeps along, a dehumanization of public service work whilst others rake it in until they **** up and are bailed out. And round we go. Works both ways really and not specifically this strike but if unions are being unreasonable should they be allowed to bring the transport in this country to a halt ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Dazo said: Works both ways really and not specifically this strike but if unions are being unreasonable should they be allowed to bring the transport in this country to a halt ? Where's the mediator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 The potential mediator is making public statements daily with, supposedly, zip me up the back, no direction being given to the employer. Folk are seeing through it, had the wool pulled over enough. A tired drained population isn't angry with workers and this govt is low on bonus points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 25 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said: Where's the mediator? Isn't the mediator normally ACAS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Isn't the mediator normally ACAS? God knows John. Observers think Shapps should be in there as Transport Secretary. But you'd have to conclude he starts from a position of clear bias given his So obvious personal need to sound like the big man to hide the fact he is ****ing useless so how can that be beneficial. What's ACAS stand for again? Edited June 21, 2022 by Riccarton3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinga the Swinga Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, John Findlay said: Isn't the mediator normally ACAS? Both sides need to request ACAS involvement. Once you have them involved, you have to almost agree that their recommendations will be adopted or else what's the point of them. Have union and management agreed to do this yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Findlay Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said: God knows John. Observers think Shapps should be in there as Transport Secretary. But you'd have to conclude he starts from a position of clear bias given his So obvious personal need to sound like the big man to hide the fact he is ****ing useless so how can that be beneficial. What's ACAS stand for again? Advisory conciliation and arbitration service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccarton3 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Shapps: I'll show P&O. This country has employment laws. You can't just treat workers like this. Johnson: Give it a rest, Grant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ri Alban Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 hours ago, manaliveits105 said: Labour will be ordered by the unions to attend whilst Sir Beer Starmer blames the Tories RMT have feck all to do with Labour. 1 hour ago, Dusk_Till_Dawn said: I totally support the strikes. Country is a mess and the government are doing nothing credible or meaningful about any of it. More people need to start causing them a headache. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Thor Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Dazo said: I’d rather be on the teat than hanging off the end of his boaby Thor. 😂 Unfortunately the one true thing in life is we're all getting the boaby one way or another. You don't need to push back though 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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