Kids

[Ray Gin]

1 hour ago, AlimOzturk said:

People saying the want kids - it is the point of existence and without the breeders in this world humanity would die off fairly quickly 

 

10 billion humans on the planet by 2057 at the current rate.

 

The planet can only really sustain 8 billion, with the optimum ideally being around half the current number.

 

More people need to stop having kids.

Edited May 29, 2022 by Ray Gin

[Dagger Is Back]

40 minutes ago, The Dragon Reborn said:

A horrible comment/opinion but best ignored so as not to allow yet another thread to be all about that poster.

You’re right. 👍

[willie wallace]

I have 4 sons and 1 daughter.

5 grandsons and 1 grandaughter who all live abroad.

4 in Amsterdam and 2 in Johannesburg.

Obviously I don't get to see them that often especially the ones in SA although i am visiting them all in July,/Aug.

On the brighter side no last minute babysitting calls🤗

Big failing as a dad is that only one of them goes to Tynecastle.😥

 

 

 

 

 

 

[John Findlay]

3 children. Daughter aged 36, son aged 31, will be 32 in September, son aged 13, will be 14 in July.

Last child definitely not planned, but wouldn't swop him for anything.

Very proud of all three of them.

Can't ask for anymore than that.

Being a parent is definitely the toughest gig I've ever had.

[JudyJudyJudy]

11 hours ago, Dagger Is Back said:

Wow. Just wow.

Its not far off the mark 

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 hours ago, The Dragon Reborn said:

A horrible comment/opinion but best ignored so as not to allow yet another thread to be all about that poster.

stop jumping on the bandwagon yet again Alex KIntner. Not about time you changed your user name again. Your using up all your lives on this new one now. Pathetic troller

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 hours ago, The Dragon Reborn said:

A horrible comment/opinion but best ignored so as not to allow yet another thread to be all about that poster.

I hope your kids wont see your postings on this in years to come  and read some of the horrible nasty comments you have made. Mind you by the time they get to 18 or a similar age you will have probably went through 100 user names going by the rate you go through them. Says everything about you really. Fake. 

[rudi must stay]

12 hours ago, Greedy Jambo said:

 

Have you got kids?

 

My brother adopted one he is a disgrace sits there and laughs at me talks down to everyone. He is yet another thing I hate in my life 

[JudyJudyJudy]

11 hours ago, Dagger Is Back said:

Wow. Just wow.

You clearly havent read this poem then.

 

Its probably too close to the bone for the troll though

 

This Be The Verse by Philip Larkin | Poetry Foundation

 

[AlimOzturk]

2 hours ago, Ray Gin said:

 

10 billion humans on the planet by 2057 at the current rate.

 

The planet can only really sustain 8 billion, with the optimum ideally being around half the current number.

 

More people need to stop having kids.

People need to have less kids in certain parts of the world. People don’t have to stop having kids. 
 

The population seems to have stabilised here in the UK. 

[Dagger Is Back]

1 hour ago, JamesM48 said:

Its not far off the mark 

In your world perhaps. It’s not my experience of kids and families. It’s not my experience of immediate family either.

 

Some people are wired differently. To blame behaviour on parents is in my mind, lazy and ignorant.

57 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

You clearly havent read this poem then.

 

Its probably too close to the bone for the troll though

 

This Be The Verse by Philip Larkin | Poetry Foundation

 

Not sure what you’re getting at here. It’s a poem written by someone expressing their views.

 

Nothing more, nothing less.

 

It enriches the debate not one little bit.

[graygo]

3 hours ago, The Dragon Reborn said:

A horrible comment/opinion but best ignored so as not to allow yet another thread to be all about that poster.

 

Great advice, alas it is too late. 😟

[JudyJudyJudy]

Just now, Dagger Is Back said:

In your world perhaps. It’s not my experience of kids and families. It’s not my experience of immediate family either.

 

Some people are wired differently. To blame behaviour on parents is in my mind, lazy and ignorant.

Not sure what you’re getting at here. It’s a poem written by someone expressing their views.

 

Nothing more, nothing less.

 

It enriches the debate not one little bit.

Never heard of " primary socialisation"  where children learn how to behave as they are taught by their parents ? Or maybe not taught. Obviously not all " dyfunctional" kids are the result of bad parenting but a heck of a lot are. You clearly didnt see my point . Most parents. parent well. However there are some who are awful and abusive. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 minute ago, graygo said:

 

Great advice, alas it is too late. 😟

Thats all ive got to say to you. You not learnt your lesson from your last comments about me ? Clearly not. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

3 hours ago, The Dragon Reborn said:

A horrible comment/opinion but best ignored so as not to allow yet another thread to be all about that poster.

Just a  reminder 

 

16. No trolling. Trolling is the act of posting with the explicit and sole intent of annoying other members

17. No cyber bullying. This includes posting unfounded personal attacks, stalking, harassing, innuendo, or any behaviour intended to demean others.

[Konrad von Carstein]

James getting all screechy and indignant about trolling, no sense of self awareness obviously. 

[rudi must stay]

Rule 1 yada yada yada 

[graygo]

37 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Thats all ive got to say to you. You not learnt your lesson from your last comments about me ? Clearly not. 

 

Hell will probably freeze over before I come across anything useful you could teach me. You're a nasty piece of work.

[Tazio]

14 hours ago, Jambo_jim2001 said:

Cost a fortune,still do.  I wouldn't swap them for all the tea in China❤️

Probably a good decision.  For a start where would you store it all? 

[mrcrisps]

3 daughters. 6 cats. Have decided to stop.

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

James getting all screechy and indignant about trolling, no sense of self awareness obviously. 

I’m trolling no one . It’s Alex kintner aka dragon returns trolling me , obsessed stalking actually . Unsettling and creepy 

[JudyJudyJudy]

33 minutes ago, mrcrisps said:

3 daughters. 6 cats. Have decided to stop.

6 cats 🐈 don’t stop ✋ 

[The Dragon Reborn]

1 hour ago, Dagger Is Back said:

In your world perhaps. It’s not my experience of kids and families. It’s not my experience of immediate family either.

 

Some people are wired differently. To blame behaviour on parents is in my mind, lazy and ignorant.

 

It also fails to take into account any number of medical conditions which can cause dysfunction. Slagging off the parents of a child with ADHD, ADD, ASD etc when in likelihood they’re probably doing everything they can to fill that child’s life with love and rich experiences. 😔

[JudyJudyJudy]

Someone needs to educate themselves really . Any social worker worth their salt will always work alongside a parent to understand a child who may be dysfunctional ( out with medical conditions ) . Poor/ abusive  parenting can create dysfunctional adults . In fact it’s a massive feature of it 

 

https://www.verywellmind.com/dysfunctional-defined-2610364

 

 

[Dagger Is Back]

2 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Never heard of " primary socialisation"  where children learn how to behave as they are taught by their parents ? Or maybe not taught. Obviously not all " dyfunctional" kids are the result of bad parenting but a heck of a lot are. You clearly didnt see my point . Most parents. parent well. However there are some who are awful and abusive. 

 

Yes I have actually. Not only have I heard about it, I know quite a bit about it There can be quite a difference between hearing and knowing. The problem with you James is that you trot out some line/comment and then try to muddy the waters once you realise what a hash you've made of it. This in bold, is what you originally posted.

 

I blame the parents , in my experience every thing falls into place when you meet a “ dysfunctional “ kids parents . 

 

A bit of a sweeping judgement and statement wouldn't you agree?  You then post 'Obviously not all " dyfunctional" kids are the result of bad parenting but a heck of a lot are'. There can be a  connection between bad parenting and chlldrens behaviour, no one is disputing that, but to come out with your opening salvo above just beggars belief. 

 

I'm not sure what your game is. Either you're a real nasty piece of work and 'soften' your stance when challenged, or you don't think before you post. 

 

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[rudi must stay]

1 hour ago, Dagger Is Back said:

 

Yes I have actually. Not only have I heard about it, I know quite a bit about it There can be quite a difference between hearing and knowing. The problem with you James is that you trot out some line/comment and then try to muddy the waters once you realise what a hash you've made of it. This in bold, is what you originally posted.

 

I blame the parents , in my experience every thing falls into place when you meet a “ dysfunctional “ kids parents . 

 

A bit of a sweeping judgement and statement wouldn't you agree?  You then post 'Obviously not all " dyfunctional" kids are the result of bad parenting but a heck of a lot are'. There can be a  connection between bad parenting and chlldrens behaviour, no one is disputing that, but to come out with your opening salvo above just beggars belief. 

 

I'm not sure what your game is. Either you're a real nasty piece of work and 'soften' your stance when challenged, or you don't think before you post. 

 

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To be fair to him this place is hardly the United Nations 

[JudyJudyJudy]

1 hour ago, Dagger Is Back said:

I blame the parents , in my experience every thing falls into place when you meet a “ dysfunctional “ kids parents . 

Cant you interpret that at all.  ?   When you meet a dyfunctional kid its usually evidence of bad parenting.  It doesnt mean all parents are bad , just those who by either omission or commission abuse their kids. 

 

1 hour ago, Dagger Is Back said:

beggars belief. 

Over dramatic 

 

1 hour ago, Dagger Is Back said:

a real nasty piece of work

Finally lost the argument with writing crap like that.  Where is your evidence to make that statement. Its very offensive really . I think you are rather defensive about parenting and its impact on kids. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 minutes ago, rudi must stay said:

To be fair to him this place is hardly the United Nations 

LOL some on this think they are intellectual giants. Ripping apart anything one says. 

[il Duce McTarkin]

8 hours ago, The Dragon Reborn said:

A horrible comment/opinion but best ignored so as not to allow yet another thread to be all about that poster.

 

This.

 

@JamesM48, I generally enjoy some of your more gentle trolling, but you're being a proper tit here. Don't worry, though, you're probably still the victim in all of this.

[JudyJudyJudy]

6 minutes ago, Dirk McClaymore said:

 

This.

 

@JamesM48, I generally enjoy some of your more gentle trolling, but you're being a proper tit here. Don't worry, though, you're probably still the victim in all of this.

 

[XB52]

And yet another thread is totally ruined by you know who. Please just put him on ignore. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

12 minutes ago, XB52 said:

And yet another thread is totally ruined by you know who. Please just put him on ignore. 

Oh no no you again. Thought u had me on ignore. Do yourself a favour and do it . Just a couple more posters to join the pile on. The usual suspects. 

 

 Ill tell you what , for a so called macho football  board there isn't half  some prissy, snowflakes on it. 

[JudyJudyJudy]

[Konrad von Carstein]

6 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Oh no no you again. Thought u had me on ignore. Do yourself a favour and do it . Just a couple more posters to join the pile on. The usual suspects. 

 

 Ill tell you what , for a so called macho football  board there isn't half  some prissy, snowflakes on it. 

Who has described this place as "macho"?

 

If it was "macho" you would most likely be given a rougher ride *Kenneth Williams* than you currently get...

 

[JudyJudyJudy]

2 minutes ago, Konrad von Carstein said:

Who has described this place as "macho"?

 

If it was "macho" you would most likely be given a rougher ride *Kenneth Williams* than you currently get...

 

 

[Konrad von Carstein]

9 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

 

[il Duce McTarkin]

39 minutes ago, JamesM48 said:

Oh no no you again. Thought u had me on ignore. Do yourself a favour and do it . Just a couple more posters to join the pile on. The usual suspects. 

 

 Ill tell you what , for a so called macho football  board there isn't half  some prissy, snowflakes on it. 

 

Agreed, XB52 is a tit as well, but he's got you bang to rights her,  james. 

[The Dragon Reborn]

8 hours ago, rudi must stay said:

 

My brother adopted one he is a disgrace sits there and laughs at me talks down to everyone. He is yet another thing I hate in my life 

Brothers can be tough 👍🏻

[The Dragon Reborn]

7 hours ago, Dagger Is Back said:

Not sure what you’re getting at here. It’s a poem written by a fascist misogynist expressing their views.

 

FTFY 👍🏻 

[Locky]

12 hours ago, Carl Fredrickson said:

Folk saying they dont want kids should be grateful their parents werent of that opinion 

 

One of my greatest pleasures in life was when my youngest started reading on her own. She is 6 and every night (I am also a weekend dad) I would read books to her. She started wanting to read them herself and now is reading Road Dhal books with very little help. 

 

Spending evenings playing board games with the kids or them asking to put on music by my favourite bands stirs my heart. 

 

When they are playing outside with their pals I will often sit in my garden and watch and listen to them. They dont know I am in the garden and it is great to hear how they are outwith my company. 

 

As a parent your hope (or at least mine is) that your kids will grow up to be decent people and that they end up in a job or career that they desire. As @Der Kaiserstated, you need to put the time in for them. I have had to learn things about Marvel, Star Wars and L.O.L dolls that I would never want to know but it makes it worth it to have that conversation with the kids. Good communication and honesty is vital. I would rather be open with them and they tell me things that may be awkward or embarrassing than they bottle things up. 

 

Sorry if I have went on but I am sure some folk will empathise with this. 

Cracking post Carl. Pretty much sums it up for me too, particularly that last paragraph. Had a proper chat with my daughter the other day about maybe meeting my new girlfriend and her kids next week. Brought up a lot of talking points, particularly about my ex and stuff, but it was great having that. She's at that age now too where she is coming out with all manner of things I'd rather not here her say but it's all part of her growing up. I did the same thing to my parents. Important thing to remember as a parent, is it's all about your growth as well as theirs.

[Morgan]

8 hours ago, rudi must stay said:

 

My brother adopted one he is a disgrace sits there and laughs at me talks down to everyone. He is yet another thing I hate in my life 

Why do you hate so much, Rudi?

 

It’s not healthy, or natural imo.

[Jambo_jim2001]

7 hours ago, Tazio said:

Probably a good decision.  For a start where would you store it all? 

My Mrs would find space😁her handbag is like the TARDIS 😳

Edited May 29, 2022 by Jambo_jim2001

[Ked]

1 hour ago, Dirk McClaymore said:

 

Agreed, XB52 is a tit as well, but he's got you bang to rights her,  james. 

Two birds with one stone springs to mind .

You cad .

😄

[Hesh]

On 28/05/2022 at 17:49, rudi must stay said:

Tough eh 

At times 

[Des Lynam]

28 minutes ago, Locky said:

Cracking post Carl. Pretty much sums it up for me too, particularly that last paragraph. Had a proper chat with my daughter the other day about maybe meeting my new girlfriend and her kids next week. Brought up a lot of talking points, particularly about my ex and stuff, but it was great having that. She's at that age now too where she is coming out with all manner of things I'd rather not here her say but it's all part of her growing up. I did the same thing to my parents. Important thing to remember as a parent, is it's all about your growth as well as theirs.

 

Fantastic point made!

[Dagger Is Back]

4 hours ago, JamesM48 said:

Cant you interpret that at all.  ?   When you meet a dyfunctional kid its usually evidence of bad parenting.  It doesnt mean all parents are bad , just those who by either omission or commission abuse their kids. 

 

Over dramatic 

 

Finally lost the argument with writing crap like that.  Where is your evidence to make that statement. Its very offensive really . I think you are rather defensive about parenting and its impact on kids. 

Yes I can interpret your comment which is why I know you're diluting your original comment with your subsequent responses.

 

Over dramatic? Aye OK. I guess you'd be the resident expert on such matters

 

I am defensive about some things and that includes when people like you blame parents for childrens behaviour, which is exactly what you did, in my opinion, in your original post. If you find what's been posted offensive then you know what to do.

 

 

 

 

[Hesh]

On 28/05/2022 at 17:49, rudi must stay said:

Tough eh 

Also remember you could get the Mods to change the subject pct of this thread to ‘Parents’

[Muppetboy]

Go two kids, a boy 14 who suffers with autism, and a girl, 11 who’s epileptic. Both are a joy to behold, my boy has went through the hearts brainwashing since early age and makes his dad proud. Having mental health problems and it also being prevalent in my family, I agonised over having kids. I would have nightmares that they would be afflicted and tormented by ill mental health from an early age, just like I was. Thankfully neither have shown any signs of possessing my condition yet, I do feel though that the illnesses they have consume me with worry but nothing in comparison to the anguish and concern I’d have if my mental health problems were passed on to them. I always make sure the problems I deal with and my reactions to them are hidden as best as I can. They know what I have and are aware of it’s effects though. I feel forewarned is forearmed

[The Dragon Reborn]

7 minutes ago, Muppetboy said:

Go two kids, a boy 14 who suffers with autism, and a girl, 11 who’s epileptic. Both are a joy to behold, my boy has went through the hearts brainwashing since early age and makes his dad proud. Having mental health problems and it also being prevalent in my family, I agonised over having kids. I would have nightmares that they would be afflicted and tormented by ill mental health from an early age, just like I was. Thankfully neither have shown any signs of possessing my condition yet, I do feel though that the illnesses they have consume me with worry but nothing in comparison to the anguish and concern I’d have if my mental health problems were passed on to them. I always make sure the problems I deal with and my reactions to them are hidden as best as I can. They know what I have and are aware of it’s effects though. I feel forewarned is forearmed

♥️

[graygo]

Good job I've not been on here tonight, guaranteed I'd be at least thread banned, possibly more. 😄

 

🔔🔚  imo.