Pants Shaton Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Our pre-split fixtures Aberdeen (A) Gretna (H) Celtic (A) Motherwell (A) Rangers (H) Inverness (A) St Mirren (A) Falkirk (H) Dundee Utd (H) My most optimistic projection would see us pick up around 14 points from these 9 fixtures (which is what we actually acheived in the corresponding fixtures from the first quarter). We are 8 points behind 6th place at the moment. Given how poor the current squad is, I don't even think the appointment of a competent manager would propel us to a top six finish. So we lose our record of being the only non-OF team to always finish in the top six since the inception of the SPL but (probably) gain a final derby of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footieman Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I think I'll decide after Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicTs Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 No chance we will be relegated but no chance we will be top 6 imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vegas-voss Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Does it really matter where we finnish as long as it's not bottom as we are not going to get into europe and the money between 6 and 7th is it really that much more ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cut The Crap Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I suspect we've left ourselves too much to do, new manager or no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 No. Gretna will be relegated, We will finish 9th or 10th imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flimsy Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I suspect we'll need at least 21 points from these 10 games which I don't think is possible the way things are at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GhostHunter Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Nope. We will languish in 11th spot...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pants Shaton Posted January 25, 2008 Author Share Posted January 25, 2008 Does it really matter where we finnish as long as it's not bottom as we are not going to get into europe and the money between 6 and 7th is it really that much more ? Financially - probably not. But from the perspective of restoring some pride - yes. That said, this is by far the best supported, best paid Hearts team ever to find themselves in a relegation battle. Anything less than 3rd place is a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulyjambo Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Not unless we get a RB, LB, CB attacking CM, Cover for LM and RM for when chesney and Andy are out. We also need a top class striker who can play with Velicka .......Untill then we have no chance. We also need a manger but everyone knows we will not get that until at the very earliest after the transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spennyboy Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Aberdeen (A) - Draw Gretna (H) - Win Celtic (A) - Loss Motherwell (A) - Loss Rangers (H) - Loss Inverness (A) - Draw St Mirren (A) - Draw Falkirk (H) - Win Dundee Utd (H) -Loss 9 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Diggler Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 We won't get a point tomorrow. 8 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Izzy Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 if we do end up in the top six, it'll be after the split Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 It's really quite an interesting equation for which no doubt someone who is into Maths would enjoy pumping out an algorithm. We are only eight ponts out of sixth place so it is a possibility.Aberdeen are only nine points ahead, and Motherwell 11. If we beat Aberdeen on Saturday then the gap is reduced to six to them - so it really matters. We beat Aberdeen and we are back on track for the top six. We lose or draw at Pittodrie and I would doubt we will be playing in the top six this season. I'll go for a win on Saturay and a top six finnish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenerjambo Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 No chance! We'll finish 10th at best with all the new promises of a new manager and quality players by the start of next season! "The Heart and soul of a chancer" should be our slogan for next year. I predict very few renewing season tickets either for next season!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddab Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Aberdeen (A) - Loss Gretna (H) - Draw Celtic (A) - Loss Motherwell (A) - Loss Rangers (H) - Loss Inverness (A) - Loss St Mirren (A) - Draw Falkirk (H) - Draw Dundee Utd (H) -Loss 3 points a relegation dogfight looms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Aberdeen (A) Win Gretna (H) Win Celtic (A) Lose Motherwell (A) Win Rangers (H) Draw Inverness (A) Win St Mirren (A) Win Falkirk (H) Win Dundee Utd (H) Win 22 points - it is achievable, I'd guess we need 42 points to get to the top six, that is 18 points to collect out of 27 available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo83 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 H2: I'll have some of what you've been drinking today mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julio Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 No danger. Vlads a clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walter Bishop Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Aberdeen (A) 0 points Gretna (H) 3 points Celtic (A) 0 points Motherwell (A) 0 points Rangers (H) 0 points Inverness (A) 0 points St Mirren (A) 1 point Falkirk (H) 1 points Dundee Utd (H) 0 points 5 points imo, ffs we better hope Greeetna dont go on a wee run!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Voted no but if every team plays like the hibs last week it will be a scoosh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 H2: I'll have some of what you've been drinking today mate. You should it's really good water - keepe me happy. It get's better when you add whisky! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
$ilvery_Moon Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Aberdeen (A) Lose Gretna (H) Win Celtic (A) Lose Motherwell (A) Lose Rangers (H) Lose Inverness (A) Draw St Mirren (A) Win Falkirk (H) Win Dundee Utd (H) Draw No. Realistically we need to win 6 or 7 of those 9 games. I think my predictions are bordering on the optimistic side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheepie Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Aberdeen (A) WinGretna (H) Win Celtic (A) Lose Motherwell (A) Win Rangers (H) Draw Inverness (A) Win St Mirren (A) Win Falkirk (H) Win Dundee Utd (H) Win 22 points - it is achievable, I'd guess we need 42 points to get to the top six, that is 18 points to collect out of 27 available. I cann abelieve there are some still predicting such runs. Yeh, it is possible but unlikley. FWIW - 9 points Aberdeen (A) d Gretna (H) Win Celtic (A) Lose Motherwell (A) d Rangers (H) l Inverness (A) l St Mirren (A) Win Falkirk (H) d Dundee Utd (H) l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flimsy Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 We also have an away game at Killie before the split. These calculations are very approximate but I figure these are the points that the 6th placed team in the league had at the split. 2000/01 Dundee 41 2001/02 Dunfermline Athletic 43 2002/03 Dundee 42 2003/04 Motherwell 45 2004/05 Motherwell 43 2005/06 Aberdeen 48 2006/07 Hibernian 44 So in all likelihood between 41 and 48 points (17 to 24 to go) are needed to reach the top six, it'll probably be closer to 48 because there are so many teams close together in mid table. The 3rd placed team has not had less than 61 points since the 38 team league was introduced (37 points to go). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 We also have an away game at Killie before the split. . Here's hoping it is not a big relegation 6 pointer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
savage Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 i predict 13 points pre split which will be nowhere near enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_HMFC Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 We also have Killie away, its the last game before the split after Dundee United Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alwaysthereinspirit Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Highly doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
By The Light.. Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Voted no but if every team plays like the hibs last week it will be a scoosh. I thought that until I remembered that Hibs are the worst team in the league right now, not the young scottish flair master good footballing side that they were under monkey heid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backvlad Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Aberdeen (A) WinGretna (H) Win Celtic (A) Lose Motherwell (A) Win Rangers (H) Draw Inverness (A) Win St Mirren (A) Win Falkirk (H) Win Dundee Utd (H) Win 22 points - it is achievable, I'd guess we need 42 points to get to the top six, that is 18 points to collect out of 27 available. love it! then you wake up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunyip Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Its too late for us now. To have a realistic chance we needed to pick up a good few points over Xmas with games like Falkirk away and ICT & St Mirren at home. The fact we took zero from them means we will finish bottom 6. The shame of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Nope. We will languish in 11th spot...... Similar feeling Dexter, we will either finish one place above bottom, or if we do move up at all the highest I can see us achieving is 9th in all honesty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portobellojambo1 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Aberdeen (A) WinGretna (H) Win Celtic (A) Lose Motherwell (A) Win Rangers (H) Draw Inverness (A) Win St Mirren (A) Win Falkirk (H) Win Dundee Utd (H) Win 22 points - it is achievable, I'd guess we need 42 points to get to the top six, that is 18 points to collect out of 27 available. Right folks read the above post, and take on board the damage that a mixture of whisky, water and hard drugs can do to you. (Drop the 20, and I suspect you are a lot closer to what our current form suggests is achievable. I think we will pick up points versus Gretna and somebody else, not convinced we will win either of them, but we are playing rank rotten at the moment, the win versus Hibs has possibly clouded that fact.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JP1874 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 There wa a similar post about 1 or 2 months ago & i said we would get into the top 6. Since then i have changed my mind, we are just not good enough to be in top 6. I thought we would get a good result & kick off on a wee run but are too inconsistant & have a "manager" that is not up2 the job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToadKiller Dog Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I'd guess we need 42 points to get to the top six, that is 18 points to collect out of 27 available. We will most likely get 17 pts then and muck it up at killie finish 7th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poseidon Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Aberdeen (A) 1 points Gretna (H) 3 points Celtic (A) 0 points Motherwell (A) 1 points Rangers (H) 1 points Inverness (A) 1 points St Mirren (A) 1 point Falkirk (H) 3 points Dundee Utd (H) 3 points If we do any better than these 14 points I'd be astounded. Can't see it being enough for top 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandyseymour Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Nope. We will languish in 11th spot...... oh no we won't I reckon we'll be at least...........10th!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad_Knows_Best Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Aberdeen (A) 0 points Gretna (H) 3 points Celtic (A) 0 points Motherwell (A) 1 points Rangers (H) 0 points Inverness (A) 0 points St Mirren (A) 1 point Falkirk (H) 1 points Dundee Utd (H) 0 points 6/27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Unless we pick up three points tomorrow - no chance. Even then it would take a herculean effort to get us into that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coco Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 I voted no. As I said on another thread, with Frail/Romanov managing and the current squad (plus Maybury) relegation battle with Gretna is very likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drylaw Hearts Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 No. Because we're pish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bordeaux 03 Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Not while Frail is in control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Aberdeen (A) - DrawGretna (H) - Win Celtic (A) - Loss Motherwell (A) - Loss Rangers (H) - Loss Inverness (A) - Draw St Mirren (A) - Draw Falkirk (H) - Win Dundee Utd (H) -Loss 9 points You think? Why? We aint beaten them this season and they are playing far better than us at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobblers Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 You think? Why? We aint beaten them this season and they are playing far better than us at the moment. Your right they are playing better than Hibs:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboGraham Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 The SPL average for the split is 44 points and this has to be our target. A few weeks ago it was looking as though 47 points would be required. However, the mid table sides have not picked up a lot of points in recent weeks so it looks as though 44 points will be enough to see you over the line.. 10 games....20 points. Apart from an OK run in October/early November we have done nothing this season to suggest we will even get close to this total. However, 6 points from the next two; Aberdeen away and Gretna at home puts us right back in the pack and would mean teams round about the split mark would have to look at our results as well each week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Your right they are playing better than Hibs:) Certainly based on last saturday they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobblers Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 Certainly based on last saturday they are. It was meant as a wind up. hope it was taken that way:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Posted January 25, 2008 Share Posted January 25, 2008 It was meant as a wind up. hope it was taken that way:) no worries:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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