BackOfTheNet Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, briever said: Shankland isn't remotely worth that cash. I don’t think he is either, but the club that paid £1 million for him less than a year ago believe he is worth at least half what they paid for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 On 22/05/2022 at 19:26, CMc said: Aye, but was hoping someone who knew something about it would offer a more informed opinion than that wee gobshite. He'll give you Mark McGhee & his son Gavin as 2nd opinions if you don't believe him! 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luckies1874 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, briever said: I think it would be worth our while to increase the % of Simms wage that we pick up - he clearly enjoys his time here and we have 10 Euro games coming up, he isn't gonna get that at some championship side. I agree and I think he is someone we can be fairly certain is improving and will be a good asset for us next year. The goals he scored recently v Hibs, Dundee Utd and Celtic, to me showed a player who was gaining confidence and is getting better all the time. With more quality around him and with other forwards playing with him and off him I'd be delighted to see him back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, JamboAl said: We could maybe introduce side letters. Oh, wait....😀 What could go wrong Al? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 12 minutes ago, 8skacel8 said: Some half decent players coming towards the end of their contracts at St Johnstone. Would they be coming in to start every game, probably not. However they would be good players to have in the squad. The 4 I would consider would be ; Zander Clark - we need a huge upgrade on Ross Stewart as number 2. Doubt he would want to be a number 2 for the two seasons though. Would be a long term replacement for Craig Gordon. Shaun Rooney Jamie McCart Callum Hendry Clark as a backup is the only thing I’d go for out of any of them. And he wouldn’t do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briever Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, BackOfTheNet said: I don’t think he is either, but the club that paid £1 million for him less than a year ago believe he is worth at least half what they paid for him You dont pay over the odds because the owner previously fecked up on his purchase - Shankland isn't a city centre flat - he's 10 a penny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, briever said: I think it would be worth our while to increase the % of Simms wage that we pick up - he clearly enjoys his time here and we have 10 Euro games coming up, he isn't gonna get that at some championship side. Surely that doesn't affect Simms wages ? Just means Everton pay less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briever Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Luckies1874 said: I agree and I think he is someone we can be fairly certain is improving and will be a good asset for us next year. The goals he scored recently v Hibs, Dundee Utd and Celtic, to me showed a player who was gaining confidence and is getting better all the time. With more quality around him and with other forwards playing with him and off him I'd be delighted to see him back. A proper foil for him and he'd be a fantastic signing for another season. Did you see the alleged instagram screenshot from his account on Friday? Saying goodbye, I think it was fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briever Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, john thomas said: Surely that doesn't affect Simms wages ? Just means Everton pay less Yeh, but its more likely for Everton to look favourably about sending him to us again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, iainmac said: What could go wrong Al? 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Pasquale for King said: I would love that to be true but it’s extremely unlikely thar this manager would play any kids in meaningful games, I think he played two this season in the league and didn’t even fill the bench with them when possible. Whether any are ready to be played is also a concern. I actually meant to say that i think a couple of loan players will come in as well but i was busy burning soup at the time. I tried to edit afterwards but it wouldn't let me. Players like Pollock, McGill, Logan and Henderson should be getting game time this season, especially in league games while we are still in Europe. Playing the likes of St Johnstone on a sunday after a European game would be ideal, so it would depend on the fixtures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Connor Ronan would be a good start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5jambo1 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) Need to decide what formation we are playing. It’s good to have a bit of flexibility but playing a 3-4-3, the wing backs need to better than what we have, it’s such a tough position to fill. It does seem to have worked at times this season, mainly when Beni has played, but it’s also a big ask for the 2 in the middle as majority of teams play 3 in there. I personally think 4-3-3 is the way forward. AttackIng full backs, one defensive centre mid that just sits and two centre mids who can get up and down the park, ideally with one being a Hartley/Cameron type. Three up top ideally to be all players who score/assist and can make things happen, and are also good in one on one situations. Few players needed so will be an interesting summer ahead Edited May 23, 2022 by 5jambo1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 32 minutes ago, Barack said: Be the end of that then. Bugger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I actually meant to say that i think a couple of loan players will come in as well but i was busy burning soup at the time. I tried to edit afterwards but it wouldn't let me. Players like Pollock, McGill, Logan and Henderson should be getting game time this season, especially in league games while we are still in Europe. Playing the likes of St Johnstone on a sunday after a European game would be ideal, so it would depend on the fixtures. Sorry to hear about the soup. I agree that we will get loan players in, and that youngsters should be getting games, but I have serious doubts about Neilson playing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tartofmidlothian Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 40 minutes ago, 8skacel8 said: Some half decent players coming towards the end of their contracts at St Johnstone. Would they be coming in to start every game, probably not. However they would be good players to have in the squad. The 4 I would consider would be ; Zander Clark - we need a huge upgrade on Ross Stewart as number 2. Doubt he would want to be a number 2 for the two seasons though. Would be a long term replacement for Craig Gordon. Shaun Rooney Jamie McCart Callum Hendry Good shout about Clark. He's clearly being groomed as Scotland's number one as well, going by today's squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, Pasquale for King said: Sorry to hear about the soup. I agree that we will get loan players in, and that youngsters should be getting games, but I have serious doubts about Neilson playing them. I think if they are good enough he would have done, and that is the problem. He played Cochrane and Simms this season, so age doesn't have to be a factor. Maybe, out of necessity, he will this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Dastardly Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, tartofmidlothian said: Good shout about Clark. He's clearly being groomed as Scotland's number one as well, going by today's squad. We could promise him league cup games? Not a great incentive but its something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briever Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Simms re-loan is not going to be negotiated until mid summer - the lad is just being polite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Cannae see Simms playing for Dunfermline next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Robbies Tackle said: Cannae see Simms playing for Dunfermline next year. You had a rough day at work chap? Persistent negativity leaving your keyboard tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: Cannae see Simms playing for Dunfermline next year. Very good 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, briever said: Simms re-loan is not going to be negotiated until mid summer - the lad is just being polite. You never know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auld Reekin' Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 17 minutes ago, Absolute Scenes said: Sibbick signing for Everton? Great move for the lad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 52 minutes ago, 8skacel8 said: Some half decent players coming towards the end of their contracts at St Johnstone. Would they be coming in to start every game, probably not. However they would be good players to have in the squad. The 4 I would consider would be ; Zander Clark - we need a huge upgrade on Ross Stewart as number 2. Doubt he would want to be a number 2 for the two seasons though. Would be a long term replacement for Craig Gordon. Shaun Rooney Jamie McCart Callum Hendry If we can afford him Cedric Kipre should be on the radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I think if they are good enough he would have done, and that is the problem. He played Cochrane and Simms this season, so age doesn't have to be a factor. Maybe, out of necessity, he will this season. Those two aren’t our academy products though, time will tell if he gives any meaningful game time to any of our own youngsters next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_HMFC Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, tartofmidlothian said: Sibbick joining Everton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Austin Samuels would be worth a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Absolute Scenes Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Austin Samuels would be worth a look. Naw eh wouldnae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briever Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, Dick Dastardly said: I think if they are good enough he would have done, and that is the problem. He played Cochrane and Simms this season, so age doesn't have to be a factor. Maybe, out of necessity, he will this season. They aren't products of our youth system - Neilson has a problem with young players, a common player amongst managers that dont have a huge amount of confidence in their own abilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_HMFC Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Austin Samuels would be worth a look. He’s done more running in 29 mins than GMS has all year looks no bad but never seen him play other than tonight he was at Aberdeen last season according to wiki. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briever Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, Pasquale for King said: Those two aren’t our academy products though, time will tell if he gives any meaningful game time to any of our own youngsters next season. It really was bewildering that Kirk never got a start in the last 5 matches - the risk reward from playing him speaks for itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stu_HMFC said: He’s done more running in 29 mins than GMS has all year looks no bad but never seen him play other than tonight he was at Aberdeen last season according to wiki. Yeah glad we can agree 😂😉, even though you like Robbie and I'm not his biggest supporter. Nice to agree on something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 13 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: You had a rough day at work chap? Persistent negativity leaving your keyboard tonight. Aye, I'm being a wank. Blame the other half, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_HMFC Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Just now, Bongo 1874 said: Yeah glad we can agree 😂😉, even though you like Robbie and I'm not his biggest supporter. Nice to agree on something. The Robbie picture is coming down 😂 just never got round to axing his puss. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos4life Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Ellis sims posted on his Instagram a thank you message, then Toby wrote see u pre season son in the comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Austin Samuels would be worth a look. What makes you think he's better than Gino? I respect your opinion in general so would like to know. First team start? Not a chance for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jambos4life said: Ellis sims posted on his Instagram a thank you message, then Toby wrote see u pre season son in the comments If we want Ellis it will cost us more than we can afford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badonde Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 I’d be going all out for Dylan levitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambos4life Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 Maybe a loan extension, I have no idea but both are genuine Instagram accounts, so why would Toby sibbick past that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyRightPeg Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, Bongo 1874 said: Austin Samuels would be worth a look. Only player on this pitch I’d consider for certain is Robbie Deas. Clark if he was happy to be a backup and Rooney at the firmest of pushes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: What makes you think he's better than Gino? I respect your opinion in general so would like to know. First team start? Not a chance for me. 21 year old good pace, can play anywhere across the front free, works extremely hard for the team. With him been at wolves will be used to playing at a decent level. And will know Connor Ronan too 😉. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffros Furios Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 What a load of ****in shite ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RustyRightPeg said: Only player on this pitch I’d consider for certain is Robbie Deas. Clark if he was happy to be a backup and Rooney at the firmest of pushes. Yeah very good player, left footed centre half that is a good ball player. Was at Celtic when he was young, would be a good addition to our squad. The Bodo glimt model picking up local talent in the domestic league. And adding quality players that are free agents from other foreign teams. They would be better coming to us and playing, than wasting there careers on the bench for the Zombies or the Filth. Edit can play left back too bonus 👍. Edited May 23, 2022 by Bongo 1874 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 19 minutes ago, briever said: It really was bewildering that Kirk never got a start in the last 5 matches - the risk reward from playing him speaks for itself. Just a wee boy 👦 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tcjambo Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Badonde said: I’d be going all out for Dylan levitt What chance though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bongo 1874 Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 11 minutes ago, Badonde said: I’d be going all out for Dylan levitt Yeah very impressed with him like simms won't be short of offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Buck Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, briever said: It really was bewildering that Kirk never got a start in the last 5 matches - the risk reward from playing him speaks for itself. He’s injured but ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted May 23, 2022 Share Posted May 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: If we want Ellis it will cost us more than we can afford. May need to pay all of his wage but we could afford another loan. Down to Everton to decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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