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13 minutes ago, Deevers said:

Apparently well known in refereeing circles as having a penchant for the hun.

 

 

Bias an aspect of the game here that will never change. An ever constant. We can only keep trying to improve to reduce its impact.

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44 minutes ago, Canscot said:

Ginnelly made a mountain out of a molehill there. I watched the replay of the supposed deflection and it was very difficult to tell. Easy (and I am not defending his overall performance here) for the ref to say it was a goal kick. Most times as a player you would just raise your arms toward the ref in a “wtaf” gesture and move on. Ginnelly took petulance to a new level. 

looked like a clear deflection from where I was in the Main Stand. He was looking to get after Ginnelly after his first minute challenge,

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I saw it from the angle behind the goal and it was unclear from that angle. I think behind the goal is a better angle to see it from than side on from main stand. You are also ignoring the fact Ginnelly ran aggressively toward the ref and his nose was all of three inches from the refs. I have reffed in my past and I am a diehard Jambo. I would have booked him for that too. 
There were other parts of the game where the ref , no doubt, had a shocker of a game. But then we should be accustomed to that by now. 

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15 minutes ago, gnasher75 said:

He reminded me of Willie Collum in his earlier years. Irritatingly officious and pedantic and couldn't get his cards out quickly enough. Both of them teachers too.

 

For the second game in a row it felt like we were up against it from the start because of the ref. Is this an issue in other leagues in Europe or a peculiarly Scottish thing because most kids in the greater Glasgow area grow up supporting either Celtic or Rangers?

Scottish football is set up to engineer success for Rangers and Celtic. It is generally understood,  these two clubs are deemed best to represent Scotland . To imagine this process does not involve officialdom is unrealistic. Progress within officialdom is tied to understanding your role and performing it dutifully. There will be the odd **** up e.g missing something  obvious against the OF which may slow down your progress.

 

 

 

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29 minutes ago, pablo said:

 

What did you think of Walsh's performance today?

Not great but our play was equally as bad

 

just think our fans will get a reputation of moaning about refs if we do it after every time we lose 

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3 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Not great but our play was equally as bad

 

just think our fans will get a reputation of moaning about refs if we do it after every time we lose 

 

You have a reputation for moaning about Hearts fans whether we win draw or lose

 

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9 minutes ago, kila said:

 

You have a reputation for moaning about Hearts fans whether we win draw or lose

 

They are perfectly valid 

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34 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said:

Bias an aspect of the game here that will never change. An ever constant. We can only keep trying to improve to reduce its impact.

It’s becoming almost intolerable and won’t change until enough pressure is exerted to force an equitable spread of grade 1 officials from all parts of this country - not just Glasgow and Lanarkshire.  The last two efforts against the Old Firm have been completely tainted  by officials with an obvious bias against us. It’s like having a rigged table in a casino.

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Walsh is the referee who was referred to at the Celtic AGM recently in not very favourable terms.

Celtic, for all their ludicrous paranoia about not getting a fair shake from referees, maybe they think they know something about this guy’s loyalties to another entity in their neck of the woods.

We are certainly going to be subjected to some chaotic refereeing for some years to come with the emergence of Walsh and Robertson.

It was certainly chaotic today.

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5 minutes ago, Deevers said:

It’s becoming almost intolerable and won’t change until enough pressure is exerted to force an equitable spread of grade 1 officials from all parts of this country - not just Glasgow and Lanarkshire.  The last two efforts against the Old Firm have been completely tainted  by officials with an obvious bias against us. It’s like having a rigged table in a casino.

Only solace is when these ***** play in Europe. And you watch officials who do not come from Greater Glasgow. Their players get booked and dismissed without a second thought. Highlights the sham we watch week in week out

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1 hour ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

I am

but lately we have been moaning about every ref 

 

Maybe because they are all shite. Have you read the thread? All but one are West coast referees 

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5 minutes ago, Deevers said:

It’s becoming almost intolerable and won’t change until enough pressure is exerted to force an equitable spread of grade 1 officials from all parts of this country - not just Glasgow and Lanarkshire.  The last two efforts against the Old Firm have been completely tainted  by officials with an obvious bias against us. It’s like having a rigged table in a casino.

I agree wholeheartedly however , if Boyce lobs Mcgregor to put us 1-0 up after 5 minutes it's a different dynamic. We are close to challenging these weegie *******s to the extent of making the officials impotent. They will always give them the benefit of dubious offside calls and iffy penalties but with VAR on the horizon the Glasgow referees are on their last legs.

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2 hours ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

As fans, we like to moan about almost every referee these days

 

Any out there that don’t get moaned about by us?

Any out there worth about 1000 pounds a game, 

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1 minute ago, Harry Potter said:

Any out there worth about 1000 pounds a game, 

Quite a few, but virtually none  in Scotland.  The number of Old Firm tainted officials here is little short of a bad joke.

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52 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Not great but our play was equally as bad

 

just think our fans will get a reputation of moaning about refs if we do it after every time we lose 

Funny how your post count goes sky high after a Hearts defeat. Hearts supporter my bahookie, you reek.

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56 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Not great but our play was equally as bad

 

just think our fans will get a reputation of moaning about refs if we do it after every time we lose 

Absolute chancer. 😂😂😂

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5 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

Funny how your post count goes sky high after a Hearts defeat. Hearts supporter my bahookie, you reek.

Ummm don’t bother with the nonsense of questioning if I’m a hearts fan 

 

the moderators / administrators on here can vouch for me that I am a hearts fan so please stop with this nonsense 

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1 hour ago, Canscot said:

I saw it from the angle behind the goal and it was unclear from that angle. I think behind the goal is a better angle to see it from than side on from main stand. You are also ignoring the fact Ginnelly ran aggressively toward the ref and his nose was all of three inches from the refs. I have reffed in my past and I am a diehard Jambo. I would have booked him for that too. 
There were other parts of the game where the ref , no doubt, had a shocker of a game. But then we should be accustomed to that by now. 

And what would you have done for the second booking where the Rangers player was the only one that lifted his hands?

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1 minute ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Ummm don’t bother with the nonsense of questioning if I’m a hearts fan 

 

the moderators / administrators on here can vouch for me that I am a hearts fan so please stop with this nonsense 

You still reek imho.

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6 minutes ago, Deevers said:

Quite a few, but virtually none  in Scotland.  The number of Old Firm tainted officials here is little short of a bad joke.

it's all about control sadly to make sure no more intruders spoil the two team party. Learned their lessons after Aberdeen and Dundee United got stuck into them in the 80's under two very good and fiery managers who took no nonsense from anyone especially Fergie in Glasgow. 

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2 hours ago, 19/05/2012 said:

The worst part is he is a PE teacher at the performance school for Rangers youth players not far from Murray Park.

The laugh is Gavin Duncan the ONLY Edinburghgrade 1 referee has never reffed a Hearts (or HIbs) match v the Old Firm, yet nearly all our games v old firm are reffed by West coast referees.

The whole system is totally corrupt, but we and others as clubs seem to meekly accept it.

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1 minute ago, merrymac said:

The laugh is Gavin Duncan the ONLY Edinburghgrade 1 referee has never reffed a Hearts (or HIbs) match v the Old Firm, yet nearly all our games v old firm are reffed by West coast referees.

The whole system is totally corrupt, but we and others as clubs seem to meekly accept it.

You can discount the vast majority of clubs. There is no incentive for them to care. The only time they are affected is a cup tie when  the revenue is really the only consideration. 

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12 minutes ago, maroonsgotop said:

it's all about control sadly to make sure no more intruders spoil the two team party. Learned their lessons after Aberdeen and Dundee United got stuck into them in the 80's under two very good and fiery managers who took no nonsense from anyone especially Fergie in Glasgow. 

Sadly, that’s exactly what it’s all about. The SFA are terrified about anyone spoiling the OldFirm parties.  Absolutely rotten to the core.  Until the Glasgow /Lanarkshire nonsense is ended, the game here will be nothing but a rigged deck. 

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3 minutes ago, Riccarton3 said:

You can discount the vast majority of clubs. There is no incentive for them to care. The only time they are affected is a cup tie when  the revenue is really the only consideration. 

Its a vast machine, SFA ,SPFL , Referees, the Press all designed to maintain the duopoly.

I don,t know what the answer is, but neither do the clubs as they seem to accept this season after season.

Not only have they got financial advantage, but every other part of the whole set up as well.

It is really frustrating to see your team do well, but know they could have done better given a fair crack of the whip

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17 minutes ago, cubanjambo said:

And what would you have done for the second booking where the Rangers player was the only one that lifted his hands?

Already said further up the thread Ginnelly had no business being involved there. He was on a booking and gave Walsh no option but to send him off. It was all handbags shit. Wannabe hard men the lot of them. 
Ginnelly must have taken something before the match. He just seemed angry. Never seen him so fiery before. 

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Walsh was out his depth today no doubt about it but he wasn’t the reason we lost. We had better possession, shots on goal:target, chances, corners. We never took any of our chances, they took 2 of theirs.

 

Walsh just made a frustrating afternoon 10x worse with his blatant incompetence. He took 76 mins to book McGregor today when he should’ve inside 20 mins. McGregor took the absolute piss out of him. His booking of Halkett would’ve been acceptable had it not been for half a dozen similar fouls by a Sevco player that went unpunished. Morelos celebrating in front of the hearts fans then taking 20 mins to walk back into his own half after the first goal. Kent kicking the ball away from Gordon in the first half. Gino’s booking was a farce. He just seemed terrified of the Sevco players in general. 12 cards in a game that possibly merited 3 or 4. All

in all a pretty much expected performance from a west coast official in an old firm game. 

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2 minutes ago, DS98 said:

Walsh was out his depth today no doubt about it but he wasn’t the reason we lost. We had better possession, shots on goal:target, chances, corners. We never took any of our chances, they took 2 of theirs.

 

Walsh just made a frustrating afternoon 10x worse with his blatant incompetence. He took 76 mins to book McGregor today when he should’ve inside 20 mins. McGregor took the absolute piss out of him. His booking of Halkett would’ve been acceptable had it not been for half a dozen similar fouls by a Sevco player that went unpunished. Morelos celebrating in front of the hearts fans then taking 20 mins to walk back into his own half after the first goal. Kent kicking the ball away from Gordon in the first half. Gino’s booking was a farce. He just seemed terrified of the Sevco players in general. 12 cards in a game that possibly merited 3 or 4. All

in all a pretty much expected performance from a west coast official in an old firm game. 

I think blatant incompetence is being kind.

I think its a bit more sinister than that

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1 minute ago, Canscot said:

Already said further up the thread Ginnelly had no business being involved there. He was on a booking and gave Walsh no option but to send him off. It was all handbags shit. Wannabe hard men the lot of them. 
Ginnelly must have taken something before the match. He just seemed angry. Never seen him so fiery before. 

He should have taken the advice that, argue with a OF/Scottish ref and you're off. I'm afraid it's been happening for as long as I remember.

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1 minute ago, cubanjambo said:

He should have taken the advice that, argue with a OF/Scottish ref and you're off. I'm afraid it's been happening for as long as I remember.

Unless your name is Scott Brown😉

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Nelly Terraces

Referee didn't make us miss decent chances or make our defence shite.

 

This is like a thread from hibsnet ff, total embarrassment for the whiners.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, DS98 said:

Walsh was out his depth today no doubt about it but he wasn’t the reason we lost. We had better possession, shots on goal:target, chances, corners. We never took any of our chances, they took 2 of theirs.

 

Walsh just made a frustrating afternoon 10x worse with his blatant incompetence. He took 76 mins to book McGregor today when he should’ve inside 20 mins. McGregor took the absolute piss out of him. His booking of Halkett would’ve been acceptable had it not been for half a dozen similar fouls by a Sevco player that went unpunished. Morelos celebrating in front of the hearts fans then taking 20 mins to walk back into his own half after the first goal. Kent kicking the ball away from Gordon in the first half. Gino’s booking was a farce. He just seemed terrified of the Sevco players in general. 12 cards in a game that possibly merited 3 or 4. All

in all a pretty much expected performance from a west coast official in an old firm game. 

He'd be out of his depth if the game was played without any responsibility by the players. It wasn't so the answers lie elsewhere. 

 

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gorgie rd eh11

 

 

 Cheating ****. 

 

Probably from some old firm hell hole, like most of them. It's not because he had a bad day or because he's not very good. He's a cheat like Davis, Brines, Collum etc. 

 

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10 minutes ago, Nelly Terraces said:

Referee didn't make us miss decent chances or make our defence shite.

 

This is like a thread from hibsnet ff, total embarrassment for the whiners.

 

 

Aye,you'll not get many threads like this on OF sites.

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1 hour ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Not great but our play was equally as bad

 

just think our fans will get a reputation of moaning about refs if we do it after every time we lose 

You are never a Hearts fan, if you watched today and thought we played badly

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18 minutes ago, Spitonastranger said:

You are never a Hearts fan, if you watched today and thought we played badly

We played alright but our finishing is poor 

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16 minutes ago, Spitonastranger said:

You are never a Hearts fan, if you watched today and thought we played badly

There are comments from other posters criticising our failure to convert chances and poor defending.

Are these not examples of “playing badly”?

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2 hours ago, maroonsgotop said:

looked like a clear deflection from where I was in the Main Stand. He was looking to get after Ginnelly after his first minute challenge,

Aye, but Ginelly was still naive to finger-poke the ref. The fact is if you push, touch or face up to the ref and he feels threatened then the chances are you’ll get booked. Ginelly walked that tightrope

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2 hours ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

Not great but our play was equally as bad

 

just think our fans will get a reputation of moaning about refs if we do it after every time we lose 

 

4 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said:

We played alright but our finishing is poor 

Alright or bad? Which is it?

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9 minutes ago, PortyBeach said:

There are comments from other posters criticising our failure to convert chances and poor defending.

Are these not examples of “playing badly”?

No it's quite simple really. You didn't mention that McGregor made some very good saves to deny us.

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13 minutes ago, Sooperstar said:

On the Gordon booking that appeared to be the linesman's call. Walsh looked at him and asked just before he got his card out.

Think it was Morelos he consulted with. Either that or Rangers fans behind Gordon. Most likely former.

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