been here before Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, Sir Craig Gordon said: Think it's just a myth people don't take children to these games. Ive certainly taken mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gorgie Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 minute ago, been here before said: Ive certainly taken mine. My second ever game was v Celtic. Would have been 6 or 7, we lost 4-2 possibly 1999/2000 season. At that age I had no idea what kind of songs Celtic were singing it was just noise, I didn't go to that game then suddenly start asking my dad what the IRA was 😂 As soon as my sons old enough to go to games I wouldn't hesitate to take him, admittedly Id have to move away from lower N but that's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch41 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Well Done Hearts. I know Rangers should of received a lot less but this amount will be for security, entry, exit, toilet facilities & refreshment reasons. Let’s sell all our tickets and make sure the Old Firm never get more than the minimum for league matches at Tynecastle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjack Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, kingantti1874 said: I won’t take my kids anywhere near a Celtic fixture. better of not knowing anything about that filth till they are older My old man wouldn't take me to games against the old firm. Only started seeing them when I was going to games myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selkirkhmfc1874 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Sarah O said: Will I need to use the grass line number? 😊 wouldn't bother me somebody grassing on them but I hate Hearts supporters grassing on fellow Hearts supporters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boab Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Selkirkhmfc1874 said: 😊 wouldn't bother me somebody grassing on them but I hate Hearts supporters grassing on fellow Hearts supporters Well if they were in the home end, a Hearts supporter is being grassed up, indirectly ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Sir Craig Gordon said: Think it's just a myth people don't take children to these games. Some don’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Lido said: Parents take their children to semi finals/finals against the old firm. Think this is safer when only 1000 of them there. Correct. Kids will hear worse in a playground and when out with their pals. It's a pathetic excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deevers Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Great news. I hope this is extended to the other arse cheeks as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Vince Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 9 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: Correct decision. Although I'd like to see it chopped down even further to the same percentage of stadium capacity we get at Ibrox and Celtic Park. Yup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hectormasson Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, mitch41 said: Well Done Hearts. I know Rangers should of received a lot less but this amount will be for security, entry, exit, toilet facilities & refreshment reasons. Let’s sell all our tickets and make sure the Old Firm never get more than the minimum for league matches at Tynecastle. Indefinetly👏👏👏🇶🇦🇶🇦🇶🇦🇶🇦🇶🇦 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vin1874 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 8 hours ago, Sarah O said: Hopefully they don't end up in the home end. Yeah that’s what I was thinking hopefully they don’t just by tickets in the whole rose burn stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_HMFC Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Rangers are a joke they are not happy a team have reduced their allocation 1.1k is still to much for me if it was up to me they would get 250 tickets. Just turned on BT Rangers are playing at Ibrox tonight but Davie Weir and Ally are in the studio in Parkhead a bit strange maybe because Celtic were on first but normally the tv and studio is at the last game . I wonder if Rangers have refused them entry and refused to have BT in Ibrox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_HMFC Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Vin1874 said: Yeah that’s what I was thinking hopefully they don’t just by tickets in the whole rose burn stand I was in the shop on Sat morning, I asked the woman when they would go on sale and if their will be a general sale she said yes and it being a cat A game LP will be used to sell tickets accordingly. I imagine if any Rangers fans are in the home end someone’s with LP will be buying tickets and selling on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newton51 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, Stu_HMFC said: Rangers are a joke they are not happy a team have reduced their allocation 1.1k is still to much for me if it was up to me they would get 250 tickets. Just turned on BT Rangers are playing at Ibrox tonight but Davie Weir and Ally are in the studio in Parkhead a bit strange maybe because Celtic were on first but normally the tv and studio is at the last game . I wonder if Rangers have refused them entry and refused to have BT in Ibrox. Chris Sutton banned from ibrox. Bt refused to broadcast from ibrox if members of staff were refused entry. Hope we do sell out this match or get thereabouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8skacel8 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I'll be buying 2 extra tickets for family for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 7 hours ago, Rogue Daddy said: Yep... during Mad Vlad's reign. He hated them..🤣 Say what you want about Vlad, you have to admire how much he hated those ****ers, fair play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor FinnBarr Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Forever Hearts said: Correct. Kids will hear worse in a playground and when out with their pals. It's a pathetic excuse. Why is it pathetic to try and save your child from the bile that emits from the Roseburn when the Uglies come to visit? I took my daughter (almost 22 now) against Der Hun at Tynie in the 1st championship season, 2012 semi against Cellic, but no danger would I take her to Tynie when the Sporting Wing of the IRA come calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 21 minutes ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: Why is it pathetic to try and save your child from the bile that emits from the Roseburn when the Uglies come to visit? I took my daughter (almost 22 now) against Der Hun at Tynie in the 1st championship season, 2012 semi against Cellic, but no danger would I take her to Tynie when the Sporting Wing of the IRA come calling. From a song? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 3 hours ago, GinRummy said: It’s not. I certainly wasn’t allowed to go as a kid. 😄 No segregation then so it was highly risky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 30 minutes ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: Why is it pathetic to try and save your child from the bile that emits from the Roseburn when the Uglies come to visit? I took my daughter (almost 22 now) against Der Hun at Tynie in the 1st championship season, 2012 semi against Cellic, but no danger would I take her to Tynie when the Sporting Wing of the IRA come calling. You could argue the other side is the sporting wing of the UDA but both sides require an explanation once kids get to a certain age. Imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 37 minutes ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: Why is it pathetic to try and save your child from the bile that emits from the Roseburn when the Uglies come to visit? I took my daughter (almost 22 now) against Der Hun at Tynie in the 1st championship season, 2012 semi against Cellic, but no danger would I take her to Tynie when the Sporting Wing of the IRA come calling. Probably for the shed but i'm glad i grew up in a time that wasn't so sanitised and risk free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) I took my oldest to Hearts v Celtic games when he was in primary school. Thankfully he came through it relatively unscathed and without too much emotional and mental damage after hearing those songs from 100 yards away and that he didn't know the words of or what the songs were about. Edited November 25, 2021 by Forever Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr ewing Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Would be happier if there were no Rangers fans there. Worked a treat against Celsick at the beginning of the season 👌 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: I took my oldest to Hearts v Celtic games when he was in primary school. Thankfully he came through it relatively unscathed and without too much emotional and mental damage after hearing those songs from 100 yards away and that he didn't know the words of or what the songs were about. Even to this day i've got no idea what either of the old firm are singing about the majority of the time. It's unintelligible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartsandonlyHearts Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 The fact they’re mad makes the move look even better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambo-in-furness Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 19 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: Even to this day i've got no idea what either of the old firm are singing about the majority of the time. It's unintelligible. they’re singing about something that happened in the 16th century, very relevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 43 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: I took my oldest to Hearts v Celtic games when he was in primary school. Thankfully he came through it relatively unscathed and without too much emotional and mental damage after hearing those songs from 100 yards away and that he didn't know the words of or what the songs were about. What about the Hearts v Rangers games though? That’s what this thread is about, not sure why you’re singling out Hearts v Celtic games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Idle Talk Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I am delighted the club have done this. Hopefully we will do the same when it's Celtic's turn to come calling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumperbeni Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 11 hours ago, kingantti1874 said: we recently had 18,500 against DUFC We then put in an absolutely awful team effort in the game at fir park which will have a knock on effect with up coming fixtures, just the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumperbeni Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 6 hours ago, GinRummy said: It’s not. Of course it’s a myth, it’s a game of football ffs, they sing songs with bad words and lyrics and have drunken arseholes in there fan base same as pretty much every other team in the world, there’s always kids at old firm games, stop trying to make a mountain out a mole hill ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thumperbeni Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, FinnBarr Saunders said: Why is it pathetic to try and save your child from the bile that emits from the Roseburn when the Uglies come to visit? I took my daughter (almost 22 now) against Der Hun at Tynie in the 1st championship season, 2012 semi against Cellic, but no danger would I take her to Tynie when the Sporting Wing of the IRA come calling. Jesus Christ, if you get offended by words to songs they sing then football isn’t for you I’m afraid, we don’t want to hear it but come on get a grip young kids couldn’t care less what they are saying, offended for the sake of being offended here I’m afraid ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fila Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 lets hope we stick to this decision ( or reduce further) going forward irrespective if we sell out or not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiler Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Des Lynam said: Even to this day i've got no idea what either of the old firm are singing about the majority of the time. It's unintelligible. I remember mentioning the same on here years ago after we’d played Rangers, there was a regular poster though who could list off every song sung that day. Probably knew all the words too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregzy2k7 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Great news 👏 We should keep it that way for both halfs of the old firm, 1000 away fans max for both imo. Gives us an advantage and we are a big enough club to sell out the stadium without them. It's been said before but the only team that should get the full roseburn is h1b5 as they give us the same at ER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboozy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Well done Hearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Fozzyonthefence said: What about the Hearts v Rangers games though? That’s what this thread is about, not sure why you’re singling out Hearts v Celtic games. I thought they were both the same? Two cheeks of the same arse? The uglies? Etc etc.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
professorfate Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 I can’t say I agree with hearts stance besides rangers will retaliate when hearts play at ibrox. I think it is a pr stunt to get more jambos at the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBE Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, professorfate said: I can’t say I agree with hearts stance besides rangers will retaliate when hearts play at ibrox. I think it is a pr stunt to get more jambos at the game. Capital "H" in Hearts...more Jambos the better. Hope the PR stunt is successful Edited November 26, 2021 by OBE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabienleclerq Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 9 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: Correct. Kids will hear worse in a playground and when out with their pals. It's a pathetic excuse. Hows it pathetic? It's up to individuals whether to take their kids to these games. It's not only the sporting wings bile, our own fans tend to get dragged down to their level. Fwiw I've taken the wee man to games against them since he was about 3 maybe younger, wouldn't criticise others for avoiding them though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Thumperbeni said: Of course it’s a myth, it’s a game of football ffs, they sing songs with bad words and lyrics and have drunken arseholes in there fan base same as pretty much every other team in the world, there’s always kids at old firm games, stop trying to make a mountain out a mole hill ! You seem absolutely raging with anger. Some people don’t take their kids to old firm games. That’s not a myth, it’s a fact. Hope that news doesn’t tip you over the edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, fabienleclerq said: Hows it pathetic? It's up to individuals whether to take their kids to these games. It's not only the sporting wings bile, our own fans tend to get dragged down to their level. Fwiw I've taken the wee man to games against them since he was about 3 maybe younger, wouldn't criticise others for avoiding them though. In my opinion it's pathetic not to take your kid to a game of football because of a song. It's actually beyond pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: In my opinion it's pathetic not to take your kid to a game of football because of a song. It's actually beyond pathetic. Half the time it’s the mums that don’t want the kids to go. When my nephews were young I took them to all the games but their mum said no to old firm games because she feared there’d be trouble. Their dad (my brother) and me would’ve been fine with taking them. A bit over protective maybe but pathetic is a wee bit strong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 So pleased hearts have done this and I’m sure this means Celtic will get reduced allocation too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Forever Hearts said: I thought they were both the same? Two cheeks of the same arse? The uglies? Etc etc.... Why did you specifically mention Hearts v Celtic games when the thread is about Rangers tickets being reduced though? Or did you not take your son to Hearts v Rangers games? Surely the behaviour of the Rangers fans would be more relevant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 46 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: In my opinion it's pathetic not to take your kid to a game of football because of a song. It's actually beyond pathetic. Pretty understandable if parents don’t want to subject their young kids to an environment where hatred and sectarian abuse is rife. Would you have taken them to somewhere you know a bunch of racists are going to be spewing out their bile? There’s no difference but in Scotland one is seen as abhorrent and the other as acceptable banter or ok to sweep under the carpet. Whether the words are in a song or not is irrelevant - say you were black and I gave you racist abuse but made up a wee song about it, would that make it more acceptable because it had a catchy tune? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Sifter Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 5 hours ago, fila said: lets hope we stick to this decision ( or reduce further) going forward irrespective if we sell out or not 100%. A lot of folk saying “we must sell all our tickets now or we will look daft” and I couldnae disagree any more. If we don’t sell the tickets then so what? We are putting down a marker here, we are sending a message that we don’t need their money/bile (delete as appropriate). If we cannot take a (small) financial hit when us fans are pumping fortunes into the club, when can we? We need the space to grow our support. Maybe the likes of St Johnstone and Livingston should start thinking long term about how to grow their own support, instead of dropping their kegs four times a year for short term gain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Why did you specifically mention Hearts v Celtic games when the thread is about Rangers tickets being reduced though? Or did you not take your son to Hearts v Rangers games? Surely the behaviour of the Rangers fans would be more relevant? Because the thread veered off track with people mentioning Hibs, Celtic and IRA songs. 58 minutes ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Pretty understandable if parents don’t want to subject their young kids to an environment where hatred and sectarian abuse is rife. Would you have taken them to somewhere you know a bunch of racists are going to be spewing out their bile? There’s no difference but in Scotland one is seen as abhorrent and the other as acceptable banter or ok to sweep under the carpet. Whether the words are in a song or not is irrelevant - say you were black and I gave you racist abuse but made up a wee song about it, would that make it more acceptable because it had a catchy tune? I was going to football in the 70s and 80s as a kid when racist chants were common and I managed to not turn into a racist. Thankfully it's a rarity now in Scottish football and as I already said, most kids won't have a clue what the songs are about anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 10 hours ago, Smithee said: Say what you want about Vlad, you have to admire how much he hated those ****ers, fair play Aye, he had them, the jackets and the media sussed out early on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: Because the thread veered off track with people mentioning Hibs, Celtic and IRA songs. I was going to football in the 70s and 80s as a kid when racist chants were common and I managed to not turn into a racist. Thankfully it's a rarity now in Scottish football and as I already said, most kids won't have a clue what the songs are about anyway. I’m not so sure racism is all that much better these days, probably a bit - but it’s still there, people tend not to be so open about it now and hide, anonymously, behind social media instead. I don’t think the kids are as bad with racism so it should get better when the dinosaurs die off. Sectarianism on the other hand in this country shows no sign of going away. The kids might not understand what the songs are about but it doesn’t take much for them to soon be repeating them. It’s been happening in this country far too long and needs to be taken as seriously as racism - the two are no better or worse than the other but you’ll probably disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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