Sooperstar Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 This man has earned at least 100k per year since 2005, not including his sponsorship, and is acting like he is living on the breadline. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/59392405 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Exactly what I thought when I read it earlier. If the amateur can beat him so what. Just look at golf the amateurs need to qualify but if they do they are accepted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooperstar Posted November 24, 2021 Author Share Posted November 24, 2021 Also Shaun Murphy https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/other-sports/snooker/world-snooker-championship-shaun-murphy-1839824 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 What a tit. It's sport, mate. Try winning your games if you want to earn more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Maroonblood Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 What an arsehole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Haha. What an arsepiece. Amateur golfers play and compete alongside professionals in major tournaments in perfect harmony. The professional should be good enough to compete with and usually beat the amateur. If he doesn't then it's his fault. Justin Rose finished 4th in The Open as a 17 year old amateur. Nobody complained. **** right off Murphy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Shane Lowry won the Irish Open as an amateur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 If Murphy had gone through 6-3 or 6-4 he would have played the familiar Mr Niceguy act and not mentioned any of this shite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Potter Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 A wee bit bitter, move on and start winning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statts1976uk Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Not directly related to the snooker player's outburst but I do remember watching something about a tennis player comparing his situation to one of a footballer. He was saying that if a footballer got injured or loss of form then he's still getting paid as per his contract, all travel and medical bills taken care of, all training costs are paid for by his club etc. In his situation all these costs are generally met by him, he pays for his entourage's travel and accommodation, his staff are generally on a retainer plus a percentage of his earnings which has to be paid whether he wins the tournament or is out injured. This is all before the taxman comes a calling. The solo sportsperson has quite a lot of pressure on them to perform. I do wonder what percentage of that event cheque that the actual sportsperson gets to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyJambo Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 If he'd said that before about amateur players, he might not have come across quite so bitter. But to only say it after getting beat shows him up just as a whiny, sore loser. Sure before the game he was probably pleased that he was "only" playing an amateur, so more likely to win and collect a pay cheque. Didn't go to plan, did it, ya ***** Especially hypocritical when he entered a golf tournament as an amateur, would he have given up his spot so a professional could have a chance at earning his keep. Aye right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Murphy comes across like a complete arsehole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CostaJambo Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Sooperstar said: This man has earned at least 100k per year since 2005, not including his sponsorship, and is acting like he is living on the breadline. https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/59392405 Had a quick look online to check his career earnings and it turns out his missus is a Chemistry professor, so together they are presumably not short of a bob or two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 neil robertson is backing SM Australia's Neil Robertson, who faces amateur John Astley on Thursday, told BBC Radio 5 Live that he had sympathy with Murphy. "I totally get where Shaun's coming from," said the defending champion. "When you're playing one of the Chinese boys, some of them are amateurs, but some are as good as anybody in the top 50 in the world. "Amateurs are under a completely different pressure where there's actually no pressure, because they're not competing for ranking points. "They're basically on a free hit at a pro, so I completely agree with what Shaun's saying there, because it is very dangerous. "You want to give people fair opportunity. What they do a lot of the time, if there's 128 players on the professional circuit and a couple drop out, they replace those spots with top-up places, from best-performing players. "That's probably what would have happened on this occasion. "Because Shaun's so highly ranked, he would have been playing a quite low-ranked pro, where he certainly wouldn't have lost. "But on this occasion he's played someone very good." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 It's his job as an experienced professional to have the right mind set. Complaining that an amateur has less pressure on is ridiculous. If most of the amateurs are Chinese then he can complain about Chinese participation in snooker if he's brave enough. If he doesn't want Chinese money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) The shite about playing an amateur = the guy has no pressure and gets a free hit is irrelevant and has no credibility. If he was playing a really low ranked professional with no expectations of winning, the same dynamic would exist and apply. It's childish excuse making. It really is in poor taste to mention his profession in terms of putting food on the table. Away and get sympathy from the many thousands of working people who are struggling to obtain enough paid works to actually put food on their family's table. Cretin. Edited November 24, 2021 by Victorian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Old Tolbooth Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Never liked Shaun Murphy and never will, he's not even that well liked on the tour either, and this is from someone I know who was on the tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel Camazzola Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Victorian said: Haha. What an arsepiece. Amateur golfers play and compete alongside professionals in major tournaments in perfect harmony. The professional should be good enough to compete with and usually beat the amateur. If he doesn't then it's his fault. Justin Rose finished 4th in The Open as a 17 year old amateur. Nobody complained. **** right off Murphy. This is the same Murphy who tried to qualify for the Open. Effectively snapping up a place from someone within the paid ranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 54 minutes ago, Victorian said: The shite about playing an amateur = the guy has no pressure and gets a free hit is irrelevant and has no credibility. If he was playing a really low ranked professional with no expectations of winning, the same dynamic would exist and apply. It's childish excuse making. It really is in poor taste to mention his profession in terms of putting food on the table. Away and get sympathy from the many thousands of working people who are struggling to obtain enough paid works to actually put food on their family's table. Cretin. just look at him he definately has no issue doing that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taffin Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 If he doesn't like it he can go and do something else and see what real pressure to put food on the table is like. Same in regards to the post about tennis players, if they think it's better to be a professional footballer then go and be one. Nobody made them choose snooker or tennis as their profession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der Kaiser Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Had to read this story twice as honestly thought it was a joke. I might adopt this attitude with Fifa and my youngest son. "Sorry but I'm not playing against you as you are not on my level.....plus you play with no pressure which means it's actually unfair on me. Any victory of yours would be shallow. Please put your controller down....but I'm happy for you to watch". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Never been keen on Murphy and his smug face. The BBC HYS was a hoot when I read it earlier. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Is he getting his arse fed to him through a straw on any social media yet? Hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Bit of a sore loser me thinks. Probably dented pride losing to an amateur but the overall quality of snooker has risen dramatically over the years so not as bad a loss as it might previously have been. Think O’Sullivan lost to a amateur some point as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Just now, AlimOzturk said: Bit of a sore loser me thinks. Probably dented pride losing to an amateur but the overall quality of snooker has risen dramatically over the years so not as bad a loss as it might previously have been. Think O’Sullivan lost to a amateur some point as well. James Cahill. Stephen Hendry's estranged nephew. Both Cahill and the boy who beat Murphy used to be on the pro tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanks Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 What a loser. Guarantee he wants a European super league style set up for snooker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey1874 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 43 minutes ago, Victorian said: Is he getting his arse fed to him through a straw on any social media yet? Hope so. More so some informed sensible points about amateur sport and particularly where there is a mix of professional and amateur players which is common in emerging sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Echoes of Ronnie O'Sullivan saying every is shite out of the top 10, then gets pumped out in the 1st round of a tournament by a non-ranked player. Seems a lot of pros have little respect and act like entitled bawbags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlimOzturk Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, Cruyff said: Echoes of Ronnie O'Sullivan saying every is shite out of the top 10, then gets pumped out in the 1st round of a tournament by a non-ranked player. Seems a lot of pros have little respect and act like entitled bawbags. There is a bit of that among elitist players. Years ago they changed the ranking system to try and make fairer on players who played smaller tournaments and things in the ranking charts and folks like Stephen Hendry and the other big players tried to have some sort of legacy clause inserted which guarantees them entry to major tournaments 🙈 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, AlimOzturk said: There is a bit of that among elitist players. Years ago they changed the ranking system to try and make fairer on players who played smaller tournaments and things in the ranking charts and folks like Stephen Hendry and the other big players tried to have some sort of legacy clause inserted which guarantees them entry to major tournaments 🙈 I think Hendry retired a soon as he dropped out of the top 16 which meant he would have to qualify for the World Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Dinner at Shaun’s…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaps Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) Robertson who was defending Murphy’s comments has been beaten by an amateur. A slice of karma Edited November 25, 2021 by Chaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cade Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilnunb Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i8hibsh Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I actually quite like SM but there are not many sporting events that don't have a few diddies in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 On 24/11/2021 at 09:19, Victorian said: Haha. What an arsepiece. Amateur golfers play and compete alongside professionals in major tournaments in perfect harmony. The professional should be good enough to compete with and usually beat the amateur. If he doesn't then it's his fault. Justin Rose finished 4th in The Open as a 17 year old amateur. Nobody complained. **** right off Murphy. Nobody complained about Rose because any prize money he might have won went to the next person, Amateurs in golf don't get prize money, or they would be professionals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Awbdy Oot said: Nobody complained about Rose because any prize money he might have won went to the next person, Amateurs in golf don't get prize money, or they would be professionals. Knew... everybody. But yeah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graygo Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 50 minutes ago, Victorian said: Knew... everybody. But yeah. Why mention it then? It's not comparable. Murphy is moaning that an amateur is depriving a professional of his living, that doesn't happen in golf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Ronnie O'Sullivan has had his say and has utterly nailed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig_ Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 On 24/11/2021 at 10:08, Statts1976uk said: Not directly related to the snooker player's outburst but I do remember watching something about a tennis player comparing his situation to one of a footballer. He was saying that if a footballer got injured or loss of form then he's still getting paid as per his contract, all travel and medical bills taken care of, all training costs are paid for by his club etc. In his situation all these costs are generally met by him, he pays for his entourage's travel and accommodation, his staff are generally on a retainer plus a percentage of his earnings which has to be paid whether he wins the tournament or is out injured. This is all before the taxman comes a calling. The solo sportsperson has quite a lot of pressure on them to perform. I do wonder what percentage of that event cheque that the actual sportsperson gets to see. Totally get your point re tennis players. However just looking at him you can see that Murphy doesn't have a fitness coach or the like... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Victorian said: Ronnie O'Sullivan has had his say and has utterly nailed it. What did he say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jeff said: What did he say? https://www.eurosport.com/snooker/uk-championship/2021-2022/uk-championships-2021-i-don-t-care-ronnie-o-sullivan-tells-beaten-shaun-murphy-to-get-another-job_sto8641187/story.shtml Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statts1976uk Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, Craig_ said: Totally get your point re tennis players. However just looking at him you can see that Murphy doesn't have a fitness coach or the like... Haha very true! He'll still be having an agent, a coach, possibly a sports psychologist etc then his travel and accommodation costs and getting punted out in the first round means he probably will walk away with about £500 clear out of £3000 for two weeks work. He'll have to wait for another tournament to earn money outside of his sponsorship deals. It's probably sour grapes and frustration on his part. I don't see the problem with amateurs playing in professional competitions, if they can prove they are up to the required standard to compete then why not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Bit tosser with bells on. Always chipping in on the snooker with his advice even though he's won nothing. Good to see him getting his cumapance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milky_26 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 26 minutes ago, rudi must stay said: Bit tosser with bells on. Always chipping in on the snooker with his advice even though he's won nothing. Good to see him getting his cumapance You do realise Murphy is a former world champion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victorian Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, milky_26 said: You do realise Murphy is a former world champion Every triple crown event winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi must stay Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, milky_26 said: You do realise Murphy is a former world champion I can say anything as a World Champion myself. I'm Ronnie O'Sullivan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maroon Sailor Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Some pretty good points here on the subject of amateur snooker players playing in professional tournaments. Selby nails it for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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