Would you accept an OBE, MBE type honour?

[EH11_2NL]

One of my friends has been given an MBE for services to education, specifically working with kids who had barriers to education. I know she works extremely hard in a very difficult field but aren't people just doing their jobs well? I think the entire honours system is bent and outdated anyway and would never accept an honour. Peer recognition means a lot more to me.

[Der Kaiser]

Is there a cash equivalent?

[Joey J J Jr Shabadoo]

No. The monarchy should be abolished.

[Stu_HMFC]

It's like the same thoughts about being on a podium and the union jack comes down and god save the queen gets played. It will never happen to me but always think about it happening HAHA 😂

[Cruyff]

Nope. Outdated load of nonsense. 

[Dennis Denuto]

Very much a no from me, but I wouldn't want to tun it down respectfully in the background and want to turn up on the day and when it's my turn say "Na, no thanks!'

[micole]

No for me, but that is just me, others my think differently.

[luckydug]

No I wouldn't no chance. 

They wouldn't ask though as I believe they make discreet enquiries beforehand. 

It would be fun to turn up and then tell whichever Royal parasite is presenting it to stick it where the sun don't shine. 😂

[The Real Maroonblood]

8 minutes ago, luckydug said:

No I wouldn't no chance. 

They wouldn't ask though as I believe they make discreet enquiries beforehand. 

It would be fun to turn up and then tell whichever Royal parasite is presenting it to stick it where the sun don't shine. 😂

[redjambo]

52 minutes ago, EH11_2NL said:

One of my friends has been given an MBE for services to education, specifically working with kids who had barriers to education. I know she works extremely hard in a very difficult field but aren't people just doing their jobs well? I think the entire honours system is bent and outdated anyway and would never accept an honour. Peer recognition means a lot more to me.

 

You mean you would feel happier with a knighthood?

[Ribble]

44 minutes ago, EH11_2NL said:

One of my friends has been given an MBE for services to education, specifically working with kids who had barriers to education. I know she works extremely hard in a very difficult field but aren't people just doing their jobs well? I think the entire honours system is bent and outdated anyway and would never accept an honour. Peer recognition means a lot more to me.

 

While it is kinda just doing their job well it's still doing their job in the public sector, just doing their job well in the private sector would be much more lucrative.

 

Personally I wouldn't ever be honoured for my day job but I do charity work on the side, do I want an honour for it? Not at all! Would I take one? yes of course I would, rightly or wrongly having someone as an MBE/OBE on the board of trustee's does have a positive impact for a charity

[redjambo]

My answer to the original question is no. The awards have long been sullied by "cash for honours", political appointments and the awarding of gongs to sporting and other personalities just because they are personalities. If an equivalent were created that was non-political and genuinely rewarded those who contribute to making society a better place then I would be more up for it.

[been here before]

58 minutes ago, EH11_2NL said:

One of my friends has been given an MBE for services to education, specifically working with kids who had barriers to education. I know she works extremely hard in a very difficult field but aren't people just doing their jobs well? I think the entire honours system is bent and outdated anyway and would never accept an honour. Peer recognition means a lot more to me.

 

Jealous you've not got an honour type post.

 

 

I'd take one and ask for the Empire bit to be emphasised just to wind up the wokers.

Edited November 17, 2021 by been here before

[i8hibsh]

I want an end to the monarchy as soon as her majesty passes on. It is not a simple decision or action however and lots of factors need to be taken into consideration.

 

Most of us I feel probably agree on the ‘pros’ of the argument but not many people will consider the ‘cons’.  Spare a thought however for the estimated 5,000 - 10,000 people employed by the monarchy and the many many more whose revenue and livelihoods depend solely on the monarchy.

 

Another ‘con’ is the that billions of pounds are generated in the UK every year because of the monarchy – this would be some shortfall.

Edited November 17, 2021 by i8hibsh

[Hesh]

1 hour ago, EH11_2NL said:

One of my friends has been given an MBE for services to education, specifically working with kids who had barriers to education. I know she works extremely hard in a very difficult field but aren't people just doing their jobs well? I think the entire honours system is bent and outdated anyway and would never accept an honour. Peer recognition means a lot more to me.

Wasn't she nominated through peer recognition ?

[Carl Fredrickson]

I have twice turned down invites to Royal Garden Parties when I was younger. I would turn down any kind of "honour" they feel a couch potato like me deserves. 

[GinRummy]

I’d prefer not to have the monarchy but if I was offered one I’d take it. Purely because it might benefit me in some way in the future. 

[Boab]

A question I'll never need to ponder !

[Seymour M Hersh]

I would definitely accept one. My grandad (whose name I have) was awarded the OBE during WW2 and that will be as close as I ever get to being awarded one. 

[No Idle Talk]

Nope.

[John Findlay]

3 minutes ago, jonesy said:

A distant relative of mine received a gong for taking Camilla up the Amazon.

Got there before Charlie boy then.

[Sharpie]

I would take one in the blink of an eye. I have recently been accused of bragging when I mentioned my military service and medals I have received. If I give the impression the allegation is true, it is not my intent. I served in the military, in a Campaign that all who participated in were given a General Service Medal, i did not seek that I earned it and I am proud of it

I later received the Queens Jubilee Medal, never asked for it, never expected it, but my record indicated certain features of my police and military conduct, experience and some actions. My off duty volunteer work was also mentioned. My twenty year Canadian Police Service medal was awarded for my exemplary service, no recorded complaints, no improprieties, and excellent attendance and punctuality records. I never asked for any of them, was granted them due to my official records and recommendations, and would gladly receive any other award decoration or recognition for my service . But it is nice to think all the crap one put up with over thirty nine years of your life was appreciated. Thats the key being appreciated so often so many receive none.

 

[Tommy Brown]

4 minutes ago, jonesy said:

A distant relative of mine received a gong for taking Camilla up the Amazon.

[Maple Leaf]

45 minutes ago, Sharpie said:

I would take one in the blink of an eye.

 

 

I hope that you're not too disappointed, Bob, but if you ever get offered one you'll have to give up your Canadian citizenship to accept it.  Just like Conrad Black.

 

By law, Canadians cannot accept awards from foreign governments. 

[scott herbertson]

Nope. I didn't even accept my prizes at school (got frogmarched out of the Assembly hall at Portobello for standing up when my name was called and make a speech about it!)

 

Britain doesn't have an Empire to award prizes from any more anyway, does it?*

 

 

 

* Excepting in the mind of the Johnson Rees-Mogg collective

[JudyJudyJudy]

Not the slightest interest in this outdated load of tosh. I admire those who were offered and refused such as Bowie. Albert Finney  Vanessa Redgrave * Dame Stephen Hawkin. ( Sir )  and ofcourse the great Ken Loach 

 

Ken Loach turned down an OBE in 1977. His films focus on social issues such as poverty and homelessness.

He told the Radio Times in 2001: “It’s all the things I think are despicable: patronage, deferring to the monarchy and the name of the British Empire, which is a monument of exploitation and conquest.

“I turned down the OBE because it’s not a club you want to join when you look at the villains who’ve got it.”

[Sharpie]

26 minutes ago, Maple Leaf said:

 

I hope that you're not too disappointed, Bob, but if you ever get offered one you'll have to give up your Canadian citizenship to accept it.  Just like Conrad Black.

 

By law, Canadians cannot accept awards from foreign governments. 

Thats too bad but now I understand why I was never offered one considering my close relationships with liz and Phil.

[Maple Leaf]

2 minutes ago, Sharpie said:

Thats too bad but now I understand why I was never offered one considering my close relationships with liz and Phil.

 

You're still in line for the Order of Canada though.

 

It's just a matter of time, imo.

[Morgan]

I did.

 

The cucumber sandwiches were lovely.

[Maroon Sailor]

Hate the system. There are a lot of people more deserving of these type of honours than some of the tossers that have been awarded it.

 

 

[Savage Vince]

No. Its a ridiculous system. Accepting an 'honour' from the most dishonourable bunch of parasites ever shat into creation is not cool. 

[Herbert.]

I knew someone that got one because of the work she done in the community, She was just a fat lazy old cow that shouted alot, I wouldn't accept an honour like a MBE I would rather a bench that would have a use.

[Sarah O]

Absolutely not. Load of bollocks.

[martoon]

16 hours ago, Der Kaiser said:

Is there a cash equivalent?

 

 

Can always rely on you, Kaiser, for a thread's funniest post. 

[kila]

Nope. Better having this as a poll!

[Roxy Hearts]

No chance!

[SE16 3LN]

Ridiculous and outdated form of patronage that contributes to opportunities of corruption. National awards should be presented by the State to those who save lives, or work exceptionally beyond their call. Makes my blood boil to see how many Nationalists line up to kiss the Queens Royal Ass.

[John Findlay]

17 minutes ago, SE16 3LN said:

Ridiculous and outdated form of patronage that contributes to opportunities of corruption. National awards should be presented by the State to those who save lives, or work exceptionally beyond their call. Makes my blood boil to see how many Nationalists line up to kiss the Queens Royal Ass.

British, English, Scottish, Welsh, or Irish nationalists?

[SE16 3LN]

4 minutes ago, John Findlay said:

British, English, Scottish, Welsh, or Irish nationalists?

Very amusing

[Sharpie]

I was pondering quietly why I was such a minority member for these awards. Then I realised the brainwashing I received as a child in the late thirties and early forties. As very young people we were required very morning to sing the National Anthem in our classroom. If we went to an evening movie show after the show we if we had not ran out in anticipation  we  had to stand and sing the National Anthem, of course in those days it was God Save The King.

During the war years the New Victoria cinema had a Saturday morning club, we of course sang the Anthem, and many of the songs glorifying our military and past wars.

As oft said in 1952, I enlisted in the army, the constant thing was God, The Queen and Country. On Joining the Edinburgh police in 1955, the constant thing was the annual Royal Visit, I have been in Canada now over fifty years, but there is still a Royal influence even here. 

I have just reached the strange revelation that my sentiments expressed on here which cause some disdain, are actually the result of some what can now be described as child, juvenile and adult brainwashing.

[Jambo_jim2001]

My gran from Bo' Ness, rest her soul,I believe got offered one in the 70's,,told them to shove it.she was a true socialist to the end.

[Francis Albert]

6 hours ago, Sharpie said:

I was pondering quietly why I was such a minority member for these awards. Then I realised the brainwashing I received as a child in the late thirties and early forties. As very young people we were required very morning to sing the National Anthem in our classroom. If we went to an evening movie show after the show we if we had not ran out in anticipation  we  had to stand and sing the National Anthem, of course in those days it was God Save The King.

During the war years the New Victoria cinema had a Saturday morning club, we of course sang the Anthem, and many of the songs glorifying our military and past wars.

As oft said in 1952, I enlisted in the army, the constant thing was God, The Queen and Country. On Joining the Edinburgh police in 1955, the constant thing was the annual Royal Visit, I have been in Canada now over fifty years, but there is still a Royal influence even here. 

I have just reached the strange revelation that my sentiments expressed on hn tilescere which cause some disdain, are actually the result of some what can now be described as child, juvenile and adult brainwashing.

Disagree. You are no more brainwashed than the wilder extremes of wokeism. 

 

I was in the Cafe Royal yesterday and it struck me that the fabulous Royal Doulton tiles of James Watt and other great engineers will soon have to have some contextualising to tell us of the part they played in destroying the planet.

[Gards]

On 17/11/2021 at 15:44, EH11_2NL said:

One of my friends has been given an MBE for services to education, specifically working with kids who had barriers to education. I know she works extremely hard in a very difficult field but aren't people just doing their jobs well? I think the entire honours system is bent and outdated anyway and would never accept an honour. Peer recognition means a lot more to me.

Yes - wonderful recognition for the work your friend has done.  She should be proud that it's being acknowledged what she's done is appreciated.

Feck the haters - be a bit positive and feck the negativity.

[Pans Jambo]

Did they not give one to Jimmy Saville?

 

Theres yer answer right there!!!

[luckydug]

On 17/11/2021 at 17:44, Sharpie said:

I would take one in the blink of an eye. I have recently been accused of bragging when I mentioned my military service and medals I have received. If I give the impression the allegation is true, it is not my intent. I served in the military, in a Campaign that all who participated in were given a General Service Medal, i did not seek that I earned it and I am proud of it

I later received the Queens Jubilee Medal, never asked for it, never expected it, but my record indicated certain features of my police and military conduct, experience and some actions. My off duty volunteer work was also mentioned. My twenty year Canadian Police Service medal was awarded for my exemplary service, no recorded complaints, no improprieties, and excellent attendance and punctuality records. I never asked for any of them, was granted them due to my official records and recommendations, and would gladly receive any other award decoration or recognition for my service . But it is nice to think all the crap one put up with over thirty nine years of your life was appreciated. Thats the key being appreciated so often so many receive none.

 

My Dad got the Burma Star medal. 

He got no help of the state when he suffered what is now known as PTSD. 

All he got off the state was a couple quid sick pay after he had to give up work in 1963.

Him and his family were left in poverty.

Needless to say he didn't have the same warm feelings towards Royalty as Bob and JF. 

He thought they were chancers as well. 

[Skivingatwork]

“Wha will be a traitor knave?”

[Sharpie]

29 minutes ago, luckydug said:

My Dad got the Burma Star medal. 

He got no help of the state when he suffered what is now known as PTSD. 

All he got off the state was a couple quid sick pay after he had to give up work in 1963.

Him and his family were left in poverty.

Needless to say he didn't have the same warm feelings towards Royalty as Bob and JF. 

He thought they were chancers as well. 

 

Your fathers story was not unique, my cousin who lived with us served in the Royal Navy during WW2. He was on Russian and Malta convoys and ended up a drunk, a thief, and a regular prisoner in H.M. Prisons. It is sad what happened to many WW2 veterans the scars they had to live with mental and physical after their service. Having stated such, I do wonder if the Queen or more so her father who could  be blamed for the poor treatment of veterans particularly those who suffered post war problems. Certainly it is titled as H.M.'s government, but I doubt the reigning Royal has much if any input into their decisions and actions, they are generally supervised as government departments by the existing at the time by the democratically elected Prime Minister and Secretaries who run such Departments.

I will however take some umbrage to your use of the word fondness for my feelings towards the Queen and by such the Royals. Fondness would not be my description,loyalty might be one accepted, because basically that is what I feel it was. I was educated, trained, and Sworn to have loyalty and do my duty for my Queen and Country, and in different roles done as I do gave my all to my duty, feelings I maintained for my birth family, for my beloved wife, and my two children. I had no particular feelings for any other entity, but loyalty and duty were two things I followed implicitly.

[martoon]

I thought my offer of a knighthood had, finally, come through the letter box this morning.

 

 

Very official looking buff envelope, embossed with the House of Commons emblem, The New Year’s honour list upcoming...

 

Posted through our door in error. 

 

Same street name but ours is followed by "Place" this was followed by "Gardens". 

 

Miles away and posh.

 

Ach well, there's always the Queen's birthday list next year.🤞

 

 

[tian447]

Unless they've starting handing them out for services to drinking in the boozer or playing the one stringed banjo, I reckon most of us are probably safe from this happening  

[rudi must stay]

Yes I'd accept a knighthood.