Under the floodlight Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Hearts to lose one of our better playesr but the media make the story about an imaginary loss for the OF, absolutely pathetic reporting from the Scottish media, but no surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 12 hours ago, soonbe110 said: But not Celtic, which is where he will almost certainly end up. Could be a done deal already. Next Thursday evening will be interesting. I agree with you. I think he's already at celtic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Marvin said: That's where I think he's going. He'd be mad to sign for them. He'll only be keeping their bench warn. The arse cheeks only sign players to weaken their opponents as opposed to strengthen their own sides. They don't have money to do that these days and I've never really bought into it anyway. They finish miles in front of everybody else every year (bar the odd exception) so I don't see what's to be gained by wasting money on bench warmers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmfc_liam06 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 14 hours ago, Lord Beni of Gorgie said: Can a moderator explain why a John Souttar thread has all sorts of mindless slavering from repeat offender Because a certain other poster goaded him into it. Pathetic from both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armageddon Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 So the ugly inbred sisters are signing him for free, the same sisters who want to walk into the Premiership, but now he wants to play in England there are a host of Championship clubs interested... Scottish Media are riddled with arseholes. If Premiership wanna-be scum want him and want into the Premiership, how isn't he good enough to play in the big league? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) D R reporting he prefers an English move! I can live with that, with the number of clubs involved we may get half a decent fee as well. Stoke we know also need cover now, so they may pay a higher figure than they initially wanted to in order to get him in. Some of the clubs tho, Millwall, Luton, Blackpool, Preston... **** me how can these clubs afford more than Hearts. I hate sky for the imbalance they created. Depressing. Blackburn, qpr and Stoke stand out as clubs that will blow us out the water and as some say may harbour dreams of EPL football. Edited November 24, 2021 by Smith's right boot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davemclaren Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: D R reporting he prefers an English move! I can live with that, with the number of clubs involved we may get half a decent fee as well. Stoke we know also need cover now, so they may pay a higher figure than they initially wanted to in order to get him in. Some of the clubs tho, Millwall, Luton, Blackpool, Preston... **** me how can these clubs afford more than Hearts. I hate sky for the imbalance they created. Depressing. Blackburn, qpr and Stoke stand out as clubs that will blow us out the water and as some say may harbour dreams of EPL football. These clubs can afford him, providing they don’t go down to L1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Just now, davemclaren said: These clubs can afford him, providing the don’t go down to L1. Yip, still depressing tho. And afford is a leap Tbh... If you mean continue to build up debt in order to chase a dream then aye, afford is the correct term. Derby, Bolton, Wigan, Birmingham, Sunderland, etc's recent accountants may debate the use and word afford when it comes to most championship clubs! 😁 Again, I hate sky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungalow Bill Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Given how short a footballers career is and the injuries he’s had he’s perfectly within his rights to seek a free move. I honestly have no issue with him moving for free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, Apache Mal said: Given how short a footballers career is and the injuries he’s had he’s perfectly within his rights to seek a free move. I honestly have no issue with him moving for free. Whether he goes for free or not is up to him and won't affect the length of his career. It would be nice if he signed a new deal on the condition that the first acceptable offer that comes in he can go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Maybe a bit controversial but I think Souttar could play in the epl and if he goes to the OF he could well be their captain. He reminds me of David Weir more than CL in playing style and he had a decent career at Everton and was rangers captain not far of Robbies age. We tend to undervalue our players and over hype others, especially the English leagues. He ****ed of for nought as well iirc. 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boof Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Souttar have any young family? Even if so, abroad wouldn't do him any harm, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Hardy’s Dug Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I find it fairly astonishing that no EPL clubs are apparently interested in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 16 minutes ago, Boof said: Souttar have any young family? Even if so, abroad wouldn't do him any harm, IMO. Depends, I'd avoid the Gaza strip or Russias bordering countries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: I find it fairly astonishing that no EPL clubs are apparently interested in him. Took McGinn and Robertson a trip to the championship before they went up the level from an non old firm club. Only Gordon and Fletcher I can remember going directly to the EPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, Robbies Tackle said: Took McGinn and Robertson a trip to the championship before they went up the level from an non old firm club. Only Gordon and Fletcher I can remember going directly to the EPL. Weir, Naysmith from us. A while back tho. Berra, Patterson, Cameron all went the championship route The Hamilton guys and the hibs full back who was shite on loan but ended up great for wolves I think all the championship as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naisys Tackle Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 minutes ago, Smith's right boot said: Weir, Naysmith from us. A while back tho. Berra, Patterson, Cameron all went the championship route The Hamilton guys and the hibs full back who was shite on loan but ended up great for wolves I think all the championship as well. Yeah eventually. The pathway in general is here to Championship unless at the old firm. Two good examples in 1998/99 tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 minute ago, Robbies Tackle said: Yeah eventually. The pathway in general is here to Championship unless at the old firm. Two good examples in 1998/99 tho. Agreed. You'd need to be competing in Europe and reasonably well to go direct I think now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruyff Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 59 minutes ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: I find it fairly astonishing that no EPL clubs are apparently interested in him. He'd be an upgrade on Harry Maguire who Man Utd spunked about 96million on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fort Vallance Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: I agree with you. I think he's already at celtic. I disagree. I think he's focussed on moving south. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 It will come down to regular European football with the Old Firm V a massive payday in the EPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 7 minutes ago, Fort Vallance said: I disagree. I think he's focussed on moving south. Could be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: D R reporting he prefers an English move! I can live with that, with the number of clubs involved we may get half a decent fee as well. Stoke we know also need cover now, so they may pay a higher figure than they initially wanted to in order to get him in. Some of the clubs tho, Millwall, Luton, Blackpool, Preston... **** me how can these clubs afford more than Hearts. I hate sky for the imbalance they created. Depressing. Blackburn, qpr and Stoke stand out as clubs that will blow us out the water and as some say may harbour dreams of EPL football. Question is - can they offer him more than Rangers or Celtic. Money, trophies, Europe, Scotland caps - sadly the answer is almost certainly no. Their only upside is a possible long shot at getting into the epl or the fact that epl clubs recruit more from the championship than the Scottish Premiership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Smith's right boot said: Yip, still depressing tho. And afford is a leap Tbh... If you mean continue to build up debt in order to chase a dream then aye, afford is the correct term. Derby, Bolton, Wigan, Birmingham, Sunderland, etc's recent accountants may debate the use and word afford when it comes to most championship clubs! 😁 Again, I hate sky. Only clubs worth going to are those recently relegate from epl. They should still have plenty of money from the para payments. They are also the most likely to go back up - Norwich, West Brom, Fulham, Bournemouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydog Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 minute ago, soonbe110 said: Question is - can they offer him more than Rangers or Celtic. Money, trophies, Europe, Scotland caps - sadly the answer is almost certainly no. Their only upside is a possible long shot at getting into the epl or the fact that epl clubs recruit more from the championship than the Scottish Premiership. I know someone very, very close to Souttar. He is only interested in going down south. You can take that to the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Just now, andydog said: I know someone very, very close to Souttar. He is only interested in going down south. You can take that to the bank. Don’t doubt you, I just think when it come to final decisions the OF will blow championship clubs out of the water unless he is desperate to play in same team as his brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 15 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: Don’t doubt you, I just think when it come to final decisions the OF will blow championship clubs out of the water unless he is desperate to play in same team as his brother. The Old Firm won't be paying more than your wealthiest EFL clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 IMO he is nowhere near the EPL. He made us better when he came back but that had as much to do with the change of shape than the fact he was back. He simply not quick enough, strong enough or good enough in the air to get regular EPL game time. His big strength is with the ball at his feet but he still regularly gives it away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyphoonJambo Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 35 minutes ago, andydog said: I know someone very, very close to Souttar. He is only interested in going down south. You can take that to the bank. Cheers for that Mr dog. Makes me for one feel a lot better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jambopilms Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 Where has he been linked to Celtic ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, TypoonJambo said: Cheers for that Mr dog. Makes me for one feel a lot better Me too… I hate the uglies swiping Scottish players while paying a pittance. 🤬… like vultures picking a carcass, while coming out with pish like ‘at least the money stays in Scotland’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PortyBeach Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I get the “short career” stuff but the fact remains he’s used Hearts (it could easily have been any club) as a stepping-stone to his own advantage. I just hope Hearts get a decent pay-back for their investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 27 minutes ago, Rogue Daddy said: Me too… I hate the uglies swiping Scottish players while paying a pittance. 🤬… like vultures picking a carcass, while coming out with pish like ‘at least the money stays in Scotland’. Does the money not stay in Scotland anyway, regardless of who pays it? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, PortyBeach said: I get the “short career” stuff but the fact remains he’s used Hearts (it could easily have been any club) as a stepping-stone to his own advantage. I just hope Hearts get a decent pay-back for their investment. Doesn’t every player try to use Hearts as a stepping stone to greater things? I’d imagine every player that plays for us has ambitions of one day playing in the EPL. It would be a bit weird for a professional footballer not to want to play at the highest level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 12 minutes ago, PortyBeach said: I get the “short career” stuff but the fact remains he’s used Hearts (it could easily have been any club) as a stepping-stone to his own advantage. I just hope Hearts get a decent pay-back for their investment. If he leaves in January he'll have been with us for 6 years, that's not a stepping stone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, Smithee said: If he leaves in January he'll have been with us for 6 years, that's not a stepping stone He's only been here this length of time because of injury. We were a stepping stone for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollie2004 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 If he does go hopefully England, but let us be honest he is injury prone and not a long term investment plus he has no HMFC loyalty. Good luck to him whatever his choce. So if he fails to sign a contract extension with us DO NOT PLAY HIM he will leave for nothing so what! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown user Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 30 minutes ago, Forever Hearts said: He's only been here this length of time because of injury. We were a stepping stone for him. Nah, we were a big move for him, his career had hit the doldrums when we signed him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 2 hours ago, andydog said: I know someone very, very close to Souttar. He is only interested in going down south. You can take that to the bank. That’s preferable I suppose, I think we need to cash in if possible in January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Fozzyonthefence said: Doesn’t every player try to use Hearts as a stepping stone to greater things? I’d imagine every player that plays for us has ambitions of one day playing in the EPL. It would be a bit weird for a professional footballer not to want to play at the highest level. I think they should to be honest, do we want guys who don’t have ambitions of better things? Halliday/GMS/Gnanduillet/Stewart to name a few. Guys like Gordon are excluded of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, jambopilms said: IMO he is nowhere near the EPL. He made us better when he came back but that had as much to do with the change of shape than the fact he was back. He simply not quick enough, strong enough or good enough in the air to get regular EPL game time. His big strength is with the ball at his feet but he still regularly gives it away. Have to agree, he still has a lot to learn also, ball watching as it goes in behind him has always been an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazzas right boot Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 The going to England vibe is good and with Stoke needing a centre half my money has shifted from celtic to Stoke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beni Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 1 hour ago, PortyBeach said: I get the “short career” stuff but the fact remains he’s used Hearts (it could easily have been any club) as a stepping-stone to his own advantage. I just hope Hearts get a decent pay-back for their investment. Six years out of a maybe 15 year career is a pretty slow step. There are only about 10 clubs in the world that aren't stepping stones so we shouldn't take it personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonbe110 Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Forever Hearts said: The Old Firm won't be paying more than your wealthiest EFL clubs. They will pay what it takes. There aren’t many wealthy EFL clubs. Most of them are heavily in debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seymour M Hersh Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 5 hours ago, Tom Hardy’s Dug said: I find it fairly astonishing that no EPL clubs are apparently interested in him. I don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Hearts Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, soonbe110 said: They will pay what it takes. There aren’t many wealthy EFL clubs. Most of them are heavily in debt. So are Rangers, and Celtic's finances aren't too rosey either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 I heard he wants to go down south but Hearts are looking to keep him until the end of the season unless a good offer is made. Dundee Utd due a percentage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettigrewsstylist Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 His medical record is amassive gamble for any club and will be reflected in any offer I suspect. Maybe better to keep him till summer if we think 2nd could be possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzyonthefence Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, pettigrewsstylist said: His medical record is amassive gamble for any club and will be reflected in any offer I suspect. Maybe better to keep him till summer if we think 2nd could be possible. 2nd?! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedy Jambo Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 He's leaving for peanuts. It's a lose lose for us. Might as well move on to discussing what the best flavour pot noodle is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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