CMc Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 £300k is pretty daft. Given his medical history, you’d think they’d want to be managing his training, physio, etc rather than letting us do it until the summer. can you imagine buying a car and letting the old owner drive it for six months? Im not saying I hope he gets injured, but our sports science guys won’t lose too much sleep about keeping him out the red zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 28 minutes ago, Ccjambo1874 said: Happy to splurge on 35% of Ramsays wage which is probably around £140k a week if £400k is to be believed. So effectively bidding just over 2 weeks of his wages for JS. We should be asking for quadruple that as they clearly seem happy to spend it. There is absolutely no danger they can afford that kind of money. Where is that figure being pulled from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karipidis Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I assume if Souttar stays he will be available on Sunday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spellczech Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 36 minutes ago, Newton51 said: If this is the final amount then they can GTF It's like they are stuck in a timewarp. Same old tricks of trying to drive a hard bargain by offering peanuts, then coming back and offering the same amount again. Cannot stand that club and all who sink on her... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 2NL Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 36 minutes ago, Newton51 said: If this is the final amount then they can GTF This is what the rat wanted, forcing hearts into taking a shite offer saving rangers money. Unlucky for him the decision makers have seen them coming and told them to bolt. That headline can **** off too, balls in our court to accept half of what we want aye 🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 I'd be raging if I was Souttar at how Rangers have handled this. Not the best start with his new employer, but none of it should be a surprise. They roll out the red carpet and fork out millions on "big name" foreign signings and quibble over a few hundred grand for Scottish signings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmiyaHearts Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 When did 4th official account become a decent source of info? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 As much as I wanted to see the back of Souttar when he signed that contract, if we get to the end of this window not caving in to their undermining tactics I’ll be happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil D. Corners Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, ToqueJambo said: I'd be raging if I was Souttar at how Rangers have handled this. Not the best start with his new employer, but none of it should be a surprise. They roll out the red carpet and fork out millions on "big name" foreign signings and quibble over a few hundred grand for Scottish signings. Souttar can’t be angry.. he should of made sure The Rangers would put in a good bid for him before signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamboinglasgow Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, EH11 2NL said: This is what the rat wanted, forcing hearts into taking a shite offer saving rangers money. Unlucky for him the decision makers have seen them coming and told them to bolt. That headline can **** off too, balls in our court to accept half of what we want aye 🤣🤣🤣 Disagree, I think he wanted Rangers to pay a reasonable sum to show how they wanted him and get it over and done with, instead they did the usual old firm thing of trying to pay as little as possible to a fellow Scottish club while pay huge amounts to non-scottish clubs for other players. They did the exact same thing to Walker a few seasons back. Celtic did the same to McGinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brux Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Tell them to GTF. Happy to keep an international at our club until the end of his contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whodanny Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, karipidis said: I assume if Souttar stays he will be available on Sunday? He's still our player, so he plays if Robbie says so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ToqueJambo Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Ryan McGowan predicted how Rangers, or another club that holds out to get Souttar for free, could treat him and it looks like he's right. Ryan pointed out that players that come in for nothing are treated as much more expendable - ie replaceable and droppable - than players that come in for a larger fee to great fanfare. It's much easier for a club to mess them about basically and fans often don't value players that come in for nothing as highly either. Rangers certainly aren't doing anything to show Souttar or their fans that they consider him a prized signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramrod Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Outstanding news if those penny-pinching halfwits don't stump up. Defensive unit looks superb with Souttar, Halkett, Kingsley, Siibbick and Moore. Throw in Haring and Smith as back back up an we are in a great place. Basically like Souttar running down his contract which was probably going to happen anyway . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des Lynam Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 39 minutes ago, Ccjambo1874 said: Happy to splurge on 35% of Ramsays wage which is probably around £140k a week if £400k is to be believed. So effectively bidding just over 2 weeks of his wages for JS. We should be asking for quadruple that as they clearly seem happy to spend it. He’s not on £400k a week. Half that the poor bugger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19/05/2012 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Souttar was signed to weaken us no other reason they dont even want him. Will end up the same way as Hastie, Barker, Jones etc. If they win the league Goldson will sign a new deal and he wont get a look in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher75 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Still time for John to see the error of his ways, rip up the pre contract and commit his future to Hearts. That would be delightful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomaso Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, ramrod said: Outstanding news if those penny-pinching halfwits don't stump up. Defensive unit looks superb with Souttar, Halkett, Kingsley, Siibbick and Moore. Throw in Haring and Smith as back back up an we are in a great place. Basically like Souttar running down his contract which was probably going to happen anyway . With Halkett out for 6 weeks and Smith struggling with his back, I am amazed anybody thinks we should sell Souttar! Souttar has put in 3 really good performances giving 100% since this shit fest erupted. We need to keep him for our drive for 3rd place and the cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EH11 2NL Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 14 minutes ago, jamboinglasgow said: Disagree, I think he wanted Rangers to pay a reasonable sum to show how they wanted him and get it over and done with, instead they did the usual old firm thing of trying to pay as little as possible to a fellow Scottish club while pay huge amounts to non-scottish clubs for other players. They did the exact same thing to Walker a few seasons back. Celtic did the same to McGinn Souttar signed the pre contract knowing they were going in for him this month, that weakened hearts position for a good fee and he knew it. Unless he's lived under a rock and never heard of how that club try to do business. Edited January 31, 2022 by EH11 2NL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howdy Doody Jambo Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, gnasher75 said: Still time for John to see the error of his ways, rip up the pre contract and commit his future to Hearts. That would be delightful. He must be wondering what squad number he will get at ibrox in the summer, 35, 45, 55 take your pick Souttar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwidoug Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Souttar staying is great. Great to see the board backing Neilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah O Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, gnasher75 said: Still time for John to see the error of his ways, rip up the pre contract and commit his future to Hearts. That would be delightful. From zero to hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, gnasher75 said: Still time for John to see the error of his ways, rip up the pre contract and commit his future to Hearts. That would be delightful. Damn! Beat me to it. Stranger things have happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Magic Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Wee Mikey said: Damn! Beat me to it. Stranger things have happened. Stranger things have happened. We once lost to Hibs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, gnasher75 said: Still time for John to see the error of his ways, rip up the pre contract and commit his future to Hearts. That would be delightful. Can’t he do this? has this happened before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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martoon Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 30 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: As much as I wanted to see the back of Souttar when he signed that contract, if we get to the end of this window not caving in to their undermining tactics I’ll be happy. Spot on, bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baxfee Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 30 minutes ago, BackOfTheNet said: As much as I wanted to see the back of Souttar when he signed that contract, if we get to the end of this window not caving in to their undermining tactics I’ll be happy. 100% with you. Cup final v huns and soapy scores 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japan Jambo Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sertse said: Well done Hearts, nice to see a backbone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GYL Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 55 minutes ago, Jonkel Hoon said: There you go John, that's how much your new employers value you. This......I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for Soapy, think his Rangers career may echo that of Paul Ritchies 😳 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Can’t he do this? has this happened before? Happened with Austrian winger Fin Dootyersel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSK Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 35 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: When did 4th official account become a decent source of info? It’s arguably the worst account on that platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Mikey Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, scott herbertson said: Probably a hod carrier too, Mike but it was a bookseller joke - Confessions of Zeno was a famous novel, and Ibsen wrote 'The Master Builder' I'll try to sharpen up my joke telling in future.... See yous intellectshuls? Well, it has been said, "Ignorance is bliss ... they're wrong." 😉 If only folks had taken heed when Levein murmered, "If you become involved with me, then you will be throwing yourself into the abyss." 🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 39 minutes ago, tian447 said: There is absolutely no danger they can afford that kind of money. Where is that figure being pulled from? It’s an estimate based on the income of their next 5 shares-schemes, all scheduled for next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazman Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Can’t he do this? has this happened before? Richie Britain did it but to join another team. Not sure how it would work this way around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboBornNBred Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Happened with Austrian winger Fin Dootyersel. LOL, that made me laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, Jambo 4 Ever said: Can’t he do this? has this happened before? People throw that about but it's almost certainly not true. A pre-contract can be legally binding or not depending on how it has been written. In the modern football era it's likely to be legally binding. Like any contract, it can be broken at a cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, bazman said: Richie Britain did it but to join another team. Not sure how it would work this way around Compensation was paid in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
db211833 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Happened with Austrian winger Fin Dootyersel. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jambo 4 Ever Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 9 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Happened with Austrian winger Fin Dootyersel. Don’t be a bully - there’s loads of questions asked on here that people could find out themselves but are still asked if you don’t want to be helpful then just don’t respond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue Daddy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, db211833 said: People throw that about but it's almost certainly not true. A pre-contract can be legally binding or not depending on how it has been written. In the modern football era it's likely to be legally binding. Like any contract, it can be broken at a cost. Wouldn’t wager against this being latter based on JSs injury history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john thomas Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 32 minutes ago, EH11 2NL said: Souttar signed the pre contract knowing they were going in for him this month, that weakened hearts position for a good fee and he knew it. Unless he's lived under a rock and never heard of how that club try to do business. Of course he did . Because he has it in for us ! Utter mince Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdl2002 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 33 minutes ago, 19/05/2012 said: Souttar was signed to weaken us no other reason they dont even want him. Will end up the same way as Hastie, Barker, Jones etc. If they win the league Goldson will sign a new deal and he wont get a look in This is where I am. I don’t think Rangers have any intention of making him a regular starter. He’ll make a good stand in for an injured player, but more importantly, they’ll have some concern over our recent progress from championship to clear 3rd place in the league in our first season back. Couple that with recent signings, it’s only right they should wish us to be weakened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 43 minutes ago, Des Lynam said: He’s not on £400k a week. Half that the poor bugger. It’s well established that he went there for £400k a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tian447 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, Rogue Daddy said: It’s an estimate based on the income of their next 5 shares-schemes, all scheduled for next week. "Announcing the new Fan Token, $EVCO, launching at the low price of £0.001690 per token. Buy 55, get 1 free. Offer only valid for 10 uses in a row." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasquale for King Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, jdl2002 said: This is where I am. I don’t think Rangers have any intention of making him a regular starter. He’ll make a good stand in for an injured player, but more importantly, they’ll have some concern over our recent progress from championship to clear 3rd place in the league in our first season back. Couple that with recent signings, it’s only right they should wish us to be weakened. Spot on, just a bench warming squad filler. Edited January 31, 2022 by Pasquale for King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iainmac Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 52 minutes ago, OmiyaHearts said: When did 4th official account become a decent source of info? Rangers burner account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BackOfTheNet Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 15 minutes ago, GinRummy said: Happened with Austrian winger Fin Dootyersel. Earliest one I can recall is the Turkish lad Gügal Çerc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTT Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 53 minutes ago, Spellczech said: It's like they are stuck in a timewarp. Same old tricks of trying to drive a hard bargain by offering peanuts, then coming back and offering the same amount again. Cannot stand that club and all who sink on her... I think there comes a point where club policy needs to be to just flat out no engage with them. They submit an offer, ignore it. 1 minute ago, jdl2002 said: This is where I am. I don’t think Rangers have any intention of making him a regular starter. He’ll make a good stand in for an injured player, but more importantly, they’ll have some concern over our recent progress from championship to clear 3rd place in the league in our first season back. Couple that with recent signings, it’s only right they should wish us to be weakened. This in spades. Souttar isn't going to play regular football for them. Don't see it. If they have cash to bring in Aaron Ramsay, don't you think they'll be looking to bring in better CBs than they currently have? If he plays 50 games for them, I'll be shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinRummy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, BackOfTheNet said: Earliest one I can recall is the Turkish lad Gügal Çerc 😂😂😂 very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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